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Post by Mother Starlight on Aug 26, 2015 16:07:12 GMT
05:55 -!- Andygal has quit 06:46 -!- kappabeta has joined #backstage 06:46 -!- mode/#backstage [+o kappabeta] by ChanServ 07:10 -!- Kelsewhere has joined #backstage 07:10 -!- Kelsewhere is now known as Kel 07:14 -!- FacelessDude has joined #backstage 07:15 < FacelessDude> hi 07:15 < Kel> hi 07:20 < FacelessDude> how are things? 07:24 < Kel> things are ok 08:01 -!- Kel has quit 08:19 -!- FacelessDude has quit 08:46 -!- Sleepdelene has quit 09:04 -!- Kelsewhere has joined #backstage 09:08 -!- Adelene has joined #backstage 09:08 -!- mode/#backstage [+o Adelene] by ChanServ 09:09 -!- Adelene1 has joined #backstage 09:10 -!- Adelene1 is now known as Busydelene 09:11 -!- Adelene has quit 09:13 -!- Busydelene has quit 09:26 -!- tecephone has joined #backstage 09:27 -!- tecephone has quit 09:31 -!- Teceler|Asleep is now known as Teceler 09:35 -!- Adelene has joined #backstage 09:35 -!- mode/#backstage [+o Adelene] by ChanServ 09:39 -!- Adelene1 has joined #backstage 09:39 -!- Adelene has quit 09:40 -!- Adelene1 has quit 09:41 -!- Adelene has joined #backstage 09:41 -!- mode/#backstage [+o Adelene] by ChanServ 10:09 -!- Kelsewhere has quit 10:39 -!- Adelene has quit 10:57 < Teceler> quiet this morning 11:00 -!- Kelsewhere has joined #backstage 11:01 -!- Adelene has joined #backstage 11:01 -!- mode/#backstage [+o Adelene] by ChanServ 11:29 -!- FacelessWork has joined #backstage 11:29 < FacelessWork> o/ 11:29 < Teceler> hello 11:30 <@Adelene> (I am actually here now, more or less.) 11:33 < FacelessWork> how are things? 11:34 < Teceler> okay 11:34 < Teceler> you? 11:38 < FacelessWork> good 11:53 -!- PDV has joined #backstage 12:04 < FacelessWork> Hi? 12:04 -!- Sonata has joined #backstage 12:04 -!- mode/#backstage [+o Sonata] by ChanServ 12:11 < Teceler> hello PDV, hello Sonata 12:11 < FacelessWork> o/ 12:12 <@Sonata> hi 12:12 < FacelessWork> everyone is quiet 12:13 < Teceler> yeah 12:14 < Teceler> hm 12:14 < Teceler> anyone feel like giving me thoughts on Niryl's icons so far? 12:38 -!- FacelessWork has quit 12:49 -!- Sonata is now known as sonata_ 12:51 -!- Sonata has joined #backstage 12:51 -!- mode/#backstage [+o Sonata] by ChanServ 12:51 <@Sonata> Testing. 12:51 <@Sonata> Looks okay. 12:52 -!- sonata_ has quit 12:54 < Teceler> connection issues? 12:55 <@Sonata> no, just experimenting with a different client 12:55 < Teceler> ah, okay 12:55 < Teceler> fair enough 13:17 < Teceler> I'm going to be heading out for a while soon 13:18 <@Adelene> *nod* 13:25 < Teceler> right 13:25 < Teceler> I'll probably be on on my phone 13:25 < Teceler> but my ride will be here any time now 13:25 < Teceler> so. I'll be back later. 13:26 < Teceler> (in, hm. hour, hour-and-a-half) 13:26 -!- Teceler is now known as Teceler|Away 13:27 -!- Butcher has joined #backstage 13:29 -!- Sky has joined #backstage 13:30 -!- tecephone has joined #backstage 13:44 -!- Sonata is now known as sonataway 13:45 < tecephone> Very quiet 13:47 < Butcher> Lady Death is hunting fashionistas. 13:49 <@Adelene> pfft 13:49 <@Adelene> That won't end with screaming at /all/. 13:54 < Butcher> Why would it? 13:54 <@Adelene> I'm assuming they're meant to be applied to the Fashion Sphere. 13:54 < Butcher> Uh... No? 13:55 <@Adelene> 'kay 13:55 < Butcher> I didn't really understand what the fashion sphere is. 13:55 <@Adelene> rather less chance of screaming, then. 13:56 <@Adelene> It's a sphere, and if you are insufficiently fashionable (by its standards) it eats you. 13:57 < Butcher> I still don't understand why anyone would want to have such a thing. 13:57 < tecephone> They don't 13:57 < Butcher> Ask Gabby to put it into the void between worlds. 13:57 < tecephone> Cloaked is looking for someone who an contain it and will 13:58 < tecephone> ...Pfft 13:58 -!- Andygal has joined #backstage 13:59 < tecephone> Hey Andygal 13:59 < Andygal> Hi. 13:59 < Butcher> Or he could take it and put a huge cordon around it and put it somewhere in toppled, where people would be paying to take their photo petting it. 13:59 < tecephone> ... 13:59 < Andygal> ... 13:59 < Butcher> It's not like the Sphere can eat souls. 13:59 < Andygal> what are we talking about? 13:59 -!- sonataway is now known as Sonata 13:59 < Andygal> Oh. 13:59 < Andygal> What the hell? 14:00 < tecephone> This is why no one its going to give it to Gabby 14:00 < Butcher> Why? 14:00 <@Adelene> yes. 14:00 < Andygal> Yes. 14:00 <@kappabeta> oh i never finished talking to kel about what cordelia plans to do about the fashion sphere did i 14:00 < Sky> it might eat souls. how would they know? 14:01 <@kappabeta> I feel certain that Cordelia went to Janice and came up with *something* to do about the sphere but like, I don't know what a reasonable plan would actually be 14:01 < Butcher> Try to ressurrect someone who has previously been eaten by the Fashion Sphere? 14:02 < tecephone> ... 14:02 <@kappabeta> we're still on the containment phase here 14:03 <@kappabeta> attempted resurrection comes *after* we are pretty sure the sphere will not be eating any more people 14:03 < Butcher> If that for some reason doesn't work: Void between worlds, with a ten light year cordon of saran wrap. 14:03 < Andygal> keeper doesn't care about souls being eaten anyway. She has backups. 14:03 <@kappabeta> hahahahahaha 14:03 <@kappabeta> true 14:04 < Butcher> That has pictures of the skulls of all kinds of aliens on it. 14:05 < Andygal> no matter how you try to warn people away somebody will take it as a challenge. 14:05 < Butcher> Gabby will ask cloak if he can ask the other forumites for ideas. 14:05 < Butcher> for better containment. 14:05 < tecephone> Also even if it doesn't eat souls, tourist attraction? Seriously? 14:06 < Butcher> Gabby is a dick. 14:06 < Butcher> And death isn't really that bad in toppled. 14:06 < Andygal> (if there was a switch in a cave some where labeled "end of the world switch please do not touch" the paint wouldn't even have time to dry) 14:06 <@Sonata> I like how Eva's spell-incantations are corporate buzzwords. 14:07 <@kappabeta> but seriously, next time kel and i are online at the same time, someone please remind me to talk to her about fashion sphere containment plans because I'm certain there has been an IC conversation and I have no idea of the outcome of that conversation XD 14:07 < Butcher> Gabby wouldn't press it. 14:08 < Butcher> He's a functional dick. 14:08 < tecephone> Pfft 14:08 * Adelene in the background, meanwhile: Why is it so hard to find silicone cupcake liners that aren't femme-coded? :P 14:09 <@Adelene> (I know why. Just. Humans, humans why. Why, humans.) 14:09 < Andygal> people are stupid. 14:10 < Butcher> Oh, and Kappa: Can we have a PM exchange with Gabby and the keeper? 14:10 <@Adelene> otoh these are really cute: http://www.amazon.com/Savings-Ramini-Brands-Best-Teacup/dp/B00L6MENSQ/ref=sr_1_78?s=kitchen&ie=UTF8&qid=1440529690&sr=1-78&keywords=silicone+baking+cups&refinements=p_85%3A2470955011 14:11 <@kappabeta> a PM exchange concerning what? 14:11 < Butcher> Gabby could offer her a spell that turns all wastepaper baskets with a certain design on them waste-destroyers that feed into Toppled. It would also automatically clean all surfaces. 14:11 <@kappabeta> why would she want such a thing 14:11 < Butcher> as long as noone messes with them or the basket for an hour. 14:11 < Butcher> keeping her domain clean. 14:11 < Butcher> and neat. 14:12 <@kappabeta> she finds this solution extremely unaesthetic 14:12 <@Adelene> This sounds like a solution to a different problem from the one she has. 14:12 < Butcher> and Gabby would get mass. 14:12 <@kappabeta> hahahahaha 14:12 < Butcher> doesn't she have more than one problem? 14:12 <@kappabeta> I mean currently she has no trouble at all keeping her domain clean because there is nothing in it but air, rock, and her. 14:13 <@kappabeta> And her Takkarash collection. 14:13 < Andygal> she will eventually make an anti-dust rule. 14:13 < Butcher> "We're immortal: Plan for the future. 14:13 < Butcher> " 14:13 < Andygal> but that is not an issue at the moment. 14:13 < Andygal> the keeper doesn't want anything permanantly destroyed. 14:13 < Andygal> even if it's "waste". 14:13 < Butcher> "I have an anti dust rule ready made." 14:14 <@kappabeta> she will indeed eventually make an anti-dust rule - actually I can't remember whether she's already made one or not - but in any case *she* will *make* an anti-dust rule that fits her particular aesthetic 14:14 < Butcher> What happens to garbage in downside? 14:15 <@kappabeta> Uninstantiated storage, i.e. it vanishes. 14:16 <@kappabeta> But the admin would find it *horribly horribly unaesthetic* to import someone else's garbage-vanishers to steal all her garbage. 14:16 <@Adelene> I approve of these baking cups: http://www.amazon.com/Silicone-Cupcake-Liners-Baking-Cups-Container/dp/B00LMHUC9E/ref=sr_1_46?s=kitchen&ie=UTF8&qid=1440529500&sr=1-46&keywords=silicone+baking+cups&refinements=p_85%3A2470955011 14:16 < Andygal> I've said this before but I love the admin/keeper and I don't even know why. 14:17 < Butcher> Mh... we can assume they talked about this offscreen. 14:17 <@Adelene> I just need to decide whether I want all gold, gold and black, or blue and black. 14:17 <@kappabeta> we can assume they talked about this offscreen? can we? 14:17 < Andygal> Gabby manages to annoy everyone. 14:17 <@kappabeta> ooh nice baking cups 14:17 <@Adelene> ^^ 14:17 < Butcher> Do you want to play it out? 14:17 <@kappabeta> the teacups were adorable but the solid coloured ones are nifty 14:17 <@Adelene> Yes ^^ 14:18 < Andygal> I like the black and gold ones. 14:18 <@kappabeta> Honestly the likeliest outcome if Gabriael contacts the admin in any capacity is that she ignores him. 14:18 <@Adelene> I kind of like the tie-dye ones a little but none have really grabbed me with the color scheme. 14:18 < Andygal> they are nifty. 14:18 <@Adelene> (I am leaning toward gold and black, yes.) 14:19 <@kappabeta> ... gabriael just made a post to the forum 14:19 <@kappabeta> wasn't he not supposed to do that? 14:19 <@Adelene> yup 14:19 < Butcher> And if he asks nicely if he could please have an atomic layer of her infinite plane? 14:19 < Butcher> Yup. 14:19 <@Adelene> Sonata. 14:19 <@Sonata> Hi. 14:19 <@Adelene> Hi! 14:19 <@Adelene> Gabe is misbehaving. 14:19 * Sonata looks 14:20 < Andygal> and also annoying the keeper surprise surprise. 14:20 < Butcher> But he's pretty sure that this post isn't annoying anyone. It's a want ad, not a conversation. 14:20 <@Adelene> I mean, not /badly/ misbehaving, exactly, but he wasn't supposed to be posting at all. :P 14:20 < Butcher> He's not annoying keeper yet. 14:22 <@Sonata> ...Plot idea. 14:23 <@Sonata> Someone does one of those trades, and Toppled is immediately swallowed by a black hole many orders of magnitude larger than itself. 14:23 <@Adelene> *snicker* 14:23 < Andygal> *snicker* 14:24 < Butcher> The moles are in interdimensional space. 14:24 < Butcher> Where time doesn't flow. 14:24 < Andygal> Singer is vaguely interested in a mole that swallows light, assuming they literally swallow light. 14:25 < Andygal> (but it would be a bad idea to make black holes disappear) 14:27 <@Sonata> I think MS is going to dither for a bit, because she doesn't /like/ banning people, but if she notices someone avoiding the thread because of him she'll come down hard. 14:27 <@Sonata> s/him/her 14:27 <@kappabeta> I've looked up some of the history of interactions between the keeper and gabriael, and yeah, there is almost nothing he could say to her that would get a response other than "she ignores him completely and doesn't respond". 14:28 <@kappabeta> Like it's conceivable that there might be something he could say that *wouldn't* get that response, but I can't actually think of such a thing and I sincerely doubt he can either. 14:28 <@Sonata> "My universe is over here, please connect"? 14:28 -!- tecephone has quit 14:29 < Butcher> And toppled is still too small to be meaningfully affected by the tidal forces of a black hole with a mass smaller than a ridiculous number of knuth up arrows times the mass of several universes, and even then it has a god somewhere in it. 14:30 < Sky> really, all Toppled needs is a way for the god to not shrink /everything/ at the same rate. which might be harder than it sounds, I dunno. 14:30 <@Sonata> Aren't the tidal forces on the interior of a black hole infinite? 14:30 <@kappabeta> She has no desire to find Gabriael's universe in particular out of all the universes she could be paying attention to, and she is definitely conceiving of things in terms of *finding* universes rather than *connecting to* them; as far as she knows, she already has access to all the universes, and I don't particularly want to show her a counterexample. 14:30 -!- tecephone has joined #backstage 14:31 < Butcher> how about:"Lizzie's, Bree's and the thunder dude's universes are the ones with the purple thing bigger than a galaxy." 14:32 < Butcher> And, no, it's the time dilation that goes into infinity, not the forces. 14:33 < Butcher> So the toppled god, would notice everything slowing down and go looking. 14:33 < Andygal> Niryl is not a dude. 14:34 < Andygal> Storm...is arguably a dude. 14:35 < Butcher> "In absentia of information, dude should suffice for everyone." 14:35 <@Sonata> (Has a character ughed at Gabby's post yet?) 14:36 < Butcher> Was it really that "Ugh" worthy? 14:36 <@Sonata> Maybe not, but Gabby herself has a bit of a reputation. 14:36 <@Sonata> Just seeing her avatar might be sufficient. 14:38 < Butcher> That's really racist to dicks. 14:38 <@kappabeta> Branch read it and kind of sighed quietly to herself, but she doesn't post very often anyway, so her posting habits were not actually affected. 14:39 <@Sonata> ... 14:39 < Andygal> ?? 14:39 <@Sonata> MS might be DWIMy enough to notice that, as a general rule, people /prefer not to receive Gabby's posts/. 14:40 <@Adelene> Lurker is probably not looking at the forum at the moment (~time~) but /definitely/ prefers not to receive Gabby's posts, yes. 14:41 * Andygal wonders if you can trade "GREY DIRT" for "PAY DIRT". 14:42 < Butcher> By the way I really loved how at first everyone liked gabby and thought of him as cute and clueless and a fun character and then slowly began to understand him and develop an extreme dislike for him. 14:43 < Butcher> I might not have managed to do many of the things I thought about when I introduced him, but the emotional reaction was exactly what I was aiming for when I first thought him up in 2008 14:44 <@Sonata> Unfortunately we developed an OOC dislike for him as well. 14:44 <@Sonata> (Contrast Jinx, who's IC terrible and OOC lots of fun.) 14:44 < Andygal> XD 14:44 < Butcher> Nonono, he needs to be disliked both in and out of character. 14:44 <@Sonata> ... 14:45 < Butcher> Or I did something wrong. 14:45 < Andygal> that is not how you roleplay. 14:45 <@Adelene> indeed. 14:45 <@Sonata> If your character concept involves making /real people/ unhappy, then that is a /bad concept/. 14:45 <@kappabeta> ...yeah, that seems a bit... 14:45 <@Adelene> do not the thing. :P 14:45 <@kappabeta> Like, maybe you meant something different by "disliked" 14:45 < Andygal> annoying your fellows authors is bad form. 14:45 < Butcher> I honestly thought he would get banned sooner. 14:46 < Andygal> MS is extremely anti-ban. 14:46 -!- tecephone has quit 14:46 -!- tecephone has joined #backstage 14:46 < Butcher> Not the annoying the authors thing was planned, but the everyone dislikes him. 14:47 <@Sonata> MS is new to admining. Also, she's a goddess of forum; /not/ letting someone have forum access is against her first instincts. 14:48 <@Sonata> She'll probably get more comfortable with it over time. 14:49 < Butcher> Well, Gabby will not talk to people except through PM, cause she asked and it's her Forum, but he will post another want ad style thing in it's own thread at some point before taking a century long break from the forum. 14:51 <@Sonata> She might want to, but she can't because she's banned now. 14:52 < Butcher> K 14:53 <@Sonata> (The ban auto-expires in one OOC year.) 14:54 < Butcher> Eh, wouldn't a backstage PM have sufficed? 14:54 < Butcher> Permaban IC? 14:55 < Butcher> I mean, what does it look like on his end? 14:57 < Butcher> Eh, it's late, I'll ask again later. 14:57 <@Adelene> That somewhat doesn't matter as he's not going to be posting any more? 14:58 -!- tecephone has quit 14:58 <@Adelene> Like, I guess it's not impossible that another method of communication will turn up or something, but this is pretty much functionally character death for Gabe. 14:58 -!- tecephone has joined #backstage 14:58 < Butcher> Yes, I know, but he does have access to some other universes, and it's going to change his behaviour a little. 14:59 <@Adelene> *shrug* 15:01 < Butcher> Does he go "meh" on the thirty billion year ban and it's character death OOC, or does he go bug OTC some more. 15:02 <@Adelene> Does he have a way of contacting OTC other than the forum? 15:02 <@Adelene> Presumably banning locks him out of PMing, too. 15:03 -!- Evenstar has joined #backstage 15:03 < Butcher> Let's ask. 15:04 <@Adelene> heh. 15:04 <@Adelene> that was definitely some timing, yes. 15:04 < Andygal> Hi Evenstar 15:04 < Evenstar> (("Yes, And"ing a fusion detonation is a lot of fire.)) 15:04 < Evenstar> Hi Andygal. 15:04 < Butcher> Evenstar, Gabby was banned today, but not before asking OTC to send two more locators. 15:04 <@kappabeta> ...what about fusion detonations, evenstar? 15:04 <@Adelene> (8/25/2015 3:01:05 PM) Butcher: Does [Gabe] go "meh" on the thirty billion year ban and it's character death OOC, or does he go bug OTC some more. 15:04 <@Adelene> (8/25/2015 3:01:30 PM) Adelene: Does he have a way of contacting OTC other than the forum? 15:04 <@Adelene> (8/25/2015 3:01:47 PM) Adelene: Presumably banning locks him out of PMing, too. 15:04 < Evenstar> http://testbed.dreamwidth.org/363.html?thread=129131#cmt129131 15:05 < Andygal> kappabeta: lewdthread 15:05 < Butcher> did they pass through an OTC office at any point? 15:05 < Evenstar> Yeah uh, it turns out stopping bags of holding from working by accident is not a good plan. 15:05 < Evenstar> Butcher: Nope. 15:06 < Andygal> Yeah. 15:06 < Andygal> Oops. 15:06 < Butcher> Are they delivered? 15:06 < Evenstar> Yes. 15:06 < Andygal> (next time, tag the subdimension) 15:06 < Evenstar> (This is the sort of thing that OTC deals with personally on a day-to-day basis) 15:07 < Butcher> Can he ask Lizzie to give a communication rod to OTC? 15:07 < Evenstar> (It is a Very Bad Day for Eva.) 15:08 < Butcher> With a note: "Will contact me if wet." 15:09 < Butcher> "Accepts H2O, CH4 and NH3" 15:10 * Sonata sees backscroll 15:10 < tecephone> Wait, why is Lizzie relevant here? 15:10 <@Sonata> Backstage PM is what MS tried before, and it worked for a while, but then she posted again. 15:11 <@Sonata> It looks like, when she tries to access the forum she gets a "sorry, you've been banned" message. 15:12 < Evenstar> ? 15:13 <@Adelene> Gabby is inconsistently pronouned. 15:13 < Butcher> She thought it was "stop arguing with people." not "You cannot post ever again, even if you behave." She'll talk to Lizzie. 15:14 < Butcher> He uses He for everyone usually. 15:14 < tecephone> Butcher, why is Lizzie relevant? 15:14 < Butcher> Lizzie has a locator rod. 15:14 <@Adelene> Water fight Lizzie, not potions Lizzie. 15:15 < tecephone> Oh okay XD 15:15 < tecephone> That makes more sense 15:15 < Butcher> Gabby PMed potions lizzie and asked if she wanted to be transported by him. 15:15 <@Adelene> ...or that? 15:15 < Butcher> She was "Sure, when I am ready" 15:16 < Butcher> He send her and ni... the thunder being a locator. 15:16 < tecephone> ... 15:16 < Butcher> by OTC 15:16 <@Adelene> that sounds like Gabe does not actually have locators for them? possibly I've missed how those work. 15:17 < tecephone> Evenstar, did the OTC send those without the relevant peoples approval? 15:17 < Butcher> He knows where they are and how the universe they are in is aligned. 15:18 < Evenstar> Tecephone: Yep. OTC does not require your consent to deliver things to you. 15:18 < tecephone> Locator beacons? 15:18 < Evenstar> (They charge more for delivering armed explosives/biological agents/attack robots/etc.) 15:19 <@Adelene> I think being willing to send locator beacons to nonconsenting people results in lots of shrieking. 15:19 <@Adelene> Like... /lots/. 15:19 -!- MTC has quit 15:19 < tecephone> I yeah 15:19 <@Adelene> Unless they have to be activated or something? But possibly even then. 15:19 < Andygal> Um yeah probably. 15:19 < Butcher> Well, Gabby asks for consent. The thunder being being an exception. 15:20 < Andygal> that's not the problem. 15:20 < Andygal> the fact that the OTC does not ask for consent is the problem. 15:20 < Evenstar> ((I am surprised that people are surprised by this)) 15:21 < Butcher> ((me too)) 15:21 -!- Teceler|Away is now known as Teceler 15:21 <@Adelene> /do/ the locator beacons have to be activated after delivery? 15:21 * Andygal is not /that/ surprised. 15:21 < Butcher> Nope. 15:21 < Teceler> Evenstar: I expected the OTC to, you know, /ask/ paying customers if they wanted that thing 15:21 * Teceler has keyboard now 15:21 < Butcher> But they go inert if they aren't wet for a month 15:22 < Teceler> Butcher: Gabby didn't even /try/ asking Niryl, that is, if less of a problem, still a thing 15:22 < Teceler> but yeah this results in SO MUCH SHRIEKING 15:23 <@Adelene> This possibly comes under 'you are discouraged from misusing OTC products', but, like. I would kind of think that it would be more cost effective for them to just not do that thing? 15:23 < Butcher> Honestly, he thought that was Lizzie's business. 15:24 < Butcher> It's not like HE is doing anything to Niryl 15:24 < Evenstar> Adelene: Basically the issue is that if you have bought anything from the OTC you now have an address with them that they can deliver to. 15:24 -!- tecephone has quit 15:24 -!- tecephone has joined #backstage 15:24 < Evenstar> If someone else knows you exist, they can ask the OTC to mail you things. 15:24 < Evenstar> (someone else who has contact with the OTC) 15:24 < Teceler> that seems, um 15:25 <@kappabeta> ...and they don't warn people about this? 15:25 < Teceler> Firewall is screaming in my head 15:25 < Evenstar> Naturally you should probably be suspicious of interuniversal junk mail? 15:25 < Teceler> yeah that 15:25 <@Adelene> shrieking. also incentive not to interact with OTC. 15:25 < Teceler> so much incentive, yeah 15:25 <@kappabeta> yeah, *hella* incentive not to interact with OTC 15:25 < Evenstar> Kappabeta, Adelene: Okay point. 15:25 < Teceler> and the OTC does not want that I think 15:25 < Butcher> Well, Gabby will send a piece of paper to Lizzie. 15:25 <@kappabeta> like, incentive to not interact with OTC and urge anyone whose welfare you care about not to interact with OTC either 15:25 < Butcher> with words. 15:25 < Teceler> yeah 15:26 < Evenstar> I will retcon it then. 15:27 -!- tecephone has quit 15:27 < Butcher> I dunno. 15:27 < Teceler> like, if they put it in a holding area people could access or something that would be fine? but, like, interdimensional junk mail is a vastly different thing from this otherwise 15:28 < Butcher> It's not as if not interacting with the OTC means you can't get the junk mail. 15:28 < Butcher> it's not interacting with people that interact with the OTC. 15:29 < Butcher> Wait, that's even worse. 15:29 < Butcher> Because it provokes isolationism. 15:29 < Butcher> like the SCP 15:30 < Teceler> the OTC needs to know how to find you to send you things 15:30 < Evenstar> (Probably you get an alert. 'You have one new package from: Gabri Ael. Do you wish to retrieve it now?') 15:30 < Teceler> (pft) 15:30 < Teceler> (yeah that works) 15:30 -!- Kelsewhere is now known as Kelish 15:30 < Kelish> Shippable Brownies 15:31 <@Adelene> Kappa, there is a Kel, you wanted to talk to her. 15:32 <@kappabeta> hi kel! we never finished talking about cordelia and janine's conclusions regarding what to do with the fashion sphere 15:32 < Kelish> hi 15:32 < Kelish> oh yeah we should 15:32 < Kelish> should spoilers or elsewhere? 15:32 <@Sonata> Evenstar: typo "Zeiga" 15:33 <@kappabeta> the fashion sphere's properties seem to have been pretty well gone over in this chat by now; are there likely to be other spoilers? 15:33 < Kelish> hm 15:33 < Kelish> I don't think so? 15:33 <@kappabeta> ok 15:33 < Kelish> I mean, minor spoilers about which characters are not consumed? 15:33 <@kappabeta> So what *would* be a good solution to the fashion sphere 15:33 < Kelish> but those can probably be guessed 15:34 < Evenstar> sonata whoops 15:34 < Kelish> hm 15:36 < Evenstar> Kelish: I suspect Lioncourt would get along well with a Fashion Sphere. 15:36 < Kelish> pf 15:36 <@kappabeta> lioncourt might disagree strongly with the fashion sphere's opinions 15:36 < Teceler> that yeah 15:37 * Evenstar has no clue what the Fashion Sphere's opinions are! 15:37 < Evenstar> (Beyond 'eat everything non-fashionable') 15:37 < Kelish> It has fashion opinions compatible with some of night vale's 15:37 < Kelish> soo... 15:37 <@kappabeta> the Fashion Sphere's opinions are surreal and inhuman, and not in a nice pretty terrifying fairies way 15:37 < Andygal> which are weird 15:37 < Evenstar> Fun! 15:38 < Andygal> probably Lioncourt would not agree at all. 15:38 < Kelish> ooh there was one other datum one sec 15:39 < Kelish> Apparently cacti and cottontale rabbits vary in fashionability too 15:39 < Kelish> "The sphere moved on and is now out in the scrublands and sand wastes, deciding which cacti and cottontail rabbits are of the now, and which must be assimilated into the pulsating dark innards of the sphere. " 15:49 < Butcher> n8 15:50 < Kelish> ? 15:50 -!- Butcher has quit 15:50 < Kelish> oh 15:50 < Kelish> good night 15:50 < Andygal> ... 15:50 < Kelish> googled and n8 = night 16:00 < Teceler> hm. I think I have enough brain for icons now. Does anyone feel like giving me thoughts about Niryl's icons? 16:00 < Kelish> sure! not sure how useful but sure! 16:00 < Teceler> https://space-between.dreamwidth.org/icons?sortorder=keyword 16:01 < Teceler> the ones with the numbers at the end of the keywords I'm trying to decide between for that keyword 16:01 < Teceler> well except wounds I was actually hunting for different ones 16:01 < Andygal> I still think shadowy3 is too much like the subtle one. 16:02 < Teceler> Andygal: do you think shadowy2 is actually a good Shadowy icon? 16:02 < Andygal> mmmm...not particularly. 16:02 <@Adelene> wounds3 > wounds4; for shadowy I think it comes down to what you expect to use it for. 16:02 < Teceler> yeah, that makes for a problem 16:02 < Teceler> hm 16:03 < Teceler> Adelene: what do you mean? 16:03 <@Adelene> They're about equally shadowed but the emotions are different. 16:03 < Teceler> (also, I actually collected some more wounds possibilities this morning but I don't want to spam the main channel with the links?) 16:04 < Teceler> Shadowy in FL is... [words] 16:04 <@Adelene> 2 is more passive and 3 is more active, if that helps. 16:04 <@kappabeta> shadowy2 looks scared; shadowy3 looks more shadowier 16:04 -!- Sonata is now known as sonataway 16:05 <@kappabeta> also who is this face? 16:05 < Teceler> kappabeta: Audrey Tautou 16:07 < Evenstar> I third Shadowy3. 16:07 < Teceler> Echo Bazaar Wiki 16:07 < Teceler> On the Wiki 16:07 < Teceler> Wiki Activity 16:07 < Teceler> Random page 16:07 < Teceler> Videos 16:07 < Teceler> Photos 16:07 < Teceler> Places 16:07 < Teceler> Qualities 16:07 < Teceler> Stories 16:07 < Teceler> Guides 16:07 < Teceler> Contribute 16:07 < Teceler> Watchlist Random page Recent changes 16:08 < Teceler> Shadowy 16:08 < Evenstar> Also, Wounds4 > Wounds3 16:08 < Teceler> 16:08 < Teceler> 16:08 < Teceler> 16:08 < Teceler> 16:08 < Teceler> 16:08 < Teceler> 16:08 < Teceler> 16:08 < Teceler> 10,571pages on 16:08 < PDV> ??? an error was made 16:08 < Teceler> this wiki 16:08 < Teceler> Edit Comments3 16:08 < Teceler> Cat 16:08 < Teceler> "Stealth, subtlety, cunning. This is your subtle and cunning skills, allowing you to exploit the dark and fascinating underground that is Fallen London." 16:08 < Teceler> ...augh 16:08 < Teceler> um. sorry 16:08 < Kelish> oh dear 16:08 < Kelish> [hug?] 16:08 < Teceler> okay, so if I use shadowy3, is subtle being close to that a problem? 16:08 <@Adelene> (*giggles at PDV*) 16:09 < PDV> ^_^ 16:10 <@Adelene> I don't think it's a problem, Tec. 16:11 <@Adelene> They're really not that similar in affect at all. 16:12 <@kappabeta> they have visual similarities, and some people like to avoid using multiple icons on the same account that are visually similar in that way (I am one of those people), but that's more of a personal aesthetic choice than anything that actually affects usability in a meaningful way 16:12 -!- sonataway is now known as Sonata 16:12 < Teceler> okay 16:14 < Andygal> Yeah. 16:14 < Andygal> I think I would prefer to avoid using such similar looking icons personally but that's my option. 16:15 <@kappabeta> also wounds3 looks cozy-sleepy and wounds4 looks headachy 16:15 < Teceler> I had trouble finding good wounds icons XD 16:15 <@kappabeta> XD 16:15 <@kappabeta> headachy is at least a type of pain! 16:16 < Teceler> the ones I found this morning: http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x177/vol4itca/avatars4/amelie38.jpg http://digilander.libero.it/dulcedogloriae/ljicons/amelie28LJ.jpg http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc298/treehuggericons/Icons%20By%20Treehuggericons/treehuggericons_vle16_4.png 16:16 <@Adelene> The second one looks really good to me. 16:17 <@kappabeta> yeah 16:17 <@kappabeta> very woundsed 16:17 < Kelish> slightly cut off? 16:17 < Teceler> Kel: hm? 16:18 < Kelish> like, the image is cropped so not all of the face is visible 16:18 < Kelish> but if the face is still recognizeable that is probably ok? 16:19 <@Adelene> The cropping is part of why it does the thing, I think. 16:20 <@Adelene> (Kappa, Kel, you were going to talk about the thing.) 16:21 <@kappabeta> yeah 16:21 <@kappabeta> kel! how do we solve the fashion sphere 16:21 <@kappabeta> everyone else! do you have suggestions for solving the fashion sphere 16:21 < Teceler> lock it up somewhere it can't get out 16:22 < Sky> convince it it is unfashionable 16:22 < Kelish> aw 16:22 < Teceler> pfffft 16:22 <@kappabeta> omg psychological warfare 16:22 <@kappabeta> i love it 16:22 < Teceler> if it's not /actually/ indestructible destroy it. 16:22 < Andygal> XD 16:23 < Teceler> throw it at Fractal and watch it explode 16:23 <@kappabeta> hahahahaha 16:23 < Kelish> but Fractal has /people/ living in it 16:23 < Teceler> ...actually that's not a bad idea, although you probably want a backup plan if that doesn't explode it 16:23 < Teceler> Kelish: Fractal also doesn't like foreign magic XD 16:23 < Kelish> XD 16:23 < Kelish> I was being silly 16:24 < Kelish> about "it" = Fractal 16:24 < Teceler> ah okay 16:25 <@kappabeta> ... so now my brain is like "I wonder if Cordelia is going to make a 'magical waste disposal' demiplane that has nothing in it but vacuum and a permagate to Fractal that comes out somewhere in intergalactic space" 16:26 <@Adelene> That does seem sensible. 16:26 < Kelish> pff 16:26 < Teceler> pfft 16:27 <@kappabeta> planeshift there, receive whatever needs disposing, chuck it through the portal, planeshift out 16:27 <@kappabeta> she might even throw Dracula's trapped soul through it 16:27 <@kappabeta> has anybody seen magicphd recently? 16:28 < Andygal> couple of days? 16:28 <@kappabeta> k 16:44 < Teceler> is that the plan then? XD 16:44 < Kelish> Janice isn't /entirely/ sure it's magic 16:45 <@Adelene> Detect Magic is a thing. 16:45 < Kelish> ooh 16:45 < Teceler> XD 16:45 < Kelish> okay, so plan 16:45 < Kelish> probably better to go through xn than OTC for courier? 16:45 < Teceler> I don't think they can detect magic at a distance though? 16:46 <@Adelene> (I mean, that doesn't guarantee it'll be inert when unmagic'd, but.) 16:46 < Kelish> Was thinking sphere gets moved to demiplane and then checked? 16:46 <@Adelene> (reasonable guess at very least.) 16:46 < Teceler> okay 16:46 < Teceler> but they still need a backup plan for if it isn't magic. although I suppose we don't need to know what that is XD 16:47 < Kelish> XD 16:47 <@kappabeta> If it isn't magic, she casts a high-powered Dungeon spell on it and *then* throws it through the portal. 16:47 < Teceler> ahahahahahaha 16:47 < Teceler> um 16:47 <@kappabeta> um? XD 16:47 <@Adelene> because BOOM 16:47 < Teceler> they probably need some way to retrieve it if it doesn't sufficently BOOM? 16:47 < Kelish> XD 16:47 < Kelish> yeah 16:48 * Kelish goes to scrabble dictionary 16:48 < Kelish> brb 16:49 < Kelish> Does anyone want to trade away a mitzvah? 16:49 < Teceler> pft 16:49 < Kelish> Ooh 16:49 < Kelish> or a ziplock 16:49 < Kelish> wait the same can't be traded twice 16:49 < Teceler> hm? 16:49 < Kelish> waxwork 16:49 < Teceler> why is that relevant? 16:49 <@kappabeta> the same exact pair of items can't be traded twice using the same exact pair of equilibrators 16:49 < Teceler> pfft 'anything made out of wax' 16:49 < Kelish> for a way to get it back if insufficient boom 16:49 <@kappabeta> that leaves plenty of wiggle room 16:50 < Teceler> --ah 16:50 < Teceler> yeah they probably want at least two pairs of things but that's not very hard 16:50 < Teceler> er 16:50 < Teceler> two other items that match? 16:50 < Kelish> yeah 16:51 < Andygal> trade it for a DASHING DEER? 16:51 < Teceler> ...poor deer 16:51 < Kelish> XD 16:51 < Kelish> probably not 16:51 <@Sonata> Poor dear. 16:51 < Andygal> XD 16:51 < Kelish> I mean, dear are cruel and just want to hurt people with time travel 16:51 < Kelish> but no 16:51 < Teceler> um, for a [something] 'tear'? 16:51 < Teceler> ... 16:51 < Teceler> Nightvale why 16:51 < Teceler> XD 16:52 <@Sonata> FROTHY BEER? 16:52 < Kelish> pff 16:53 < Teceler> 'frozen tear'? 16:53 < Kelish> Frozen tear: a tear that is cried when someone is experiencing feelings and trying to let it go 16:53 < Teceler> ...pfft 16:53 < Andygal> a FASHIONED PIER? 16:53 < Kelish> frozen tear: a hole in fabric that is cold 16:53 < Teceler> I was thinking 'lacre' :P 16:54 < Teceler> Andygal: pffffft 16:55 < Andygal> CUSHION BIER? 16:56 <@kappabeta> ... someone please tell me not to invent conlang translations for all the ENGLISH DESCRIPTORS in the XN thread and then have a character come in and comment that this has been a fascinating linguistic journey 16:56 <@kappabeta> I even know which conlang and which character 16:56 <@kappabeta> but then I'd have ANOTHER CHARACTER 16:56 < Teceler> pffffffffffffft 16:56 < Andygal> XD 16:57 <@Adelene> *giggle* 16:57 < Teceler> do you /want/ ANOTHER CHARACTER? 16:57 <@kappabeta> >.> 16:57 < Andygal> I think kappabeta has insufficent brain for their existing characters. 16:57 <@kappabeta> Plus he comes with Yet Another Transmissible Magic System 16:57 <@kappabeta> *and* it has interworld travel 16:58 < Andygal> ... 16:58 <@kappabeta> (it's Pine Shadows, the Sunnyverse Lazarus) 16:58 < Kelish> oh no 16:58 < Kelish> Ooh 16:58 < Andygal> the demon one? 16:58 <@kappabeta> yes 16:58 < Teceler> pfft 16:58 < Andygal> is he ever going to show up in Effulgence properly? 16:59 <@kappabeta> i'm stymied by icon woes 16:59 < Kelish> [hug?] 16:59 < Andygal> Mmmhmm. 16:59 < Andygal> that sounds like a problem. 16:59 * kappabeta adds hug to cherished hug collection 16:59 < Andygal> (hug?) 16:59 < Teceler> icon woes are unfun 16:59 <@kappabeta> XD 17:00 * Andygal is having vague Singer-icon woes. 17:00 < Teceler> and I haven't even had to deal with any non-human-looking characters XD 17:00 * Teceler eyes new wounds icon. 17:00 <@kappabeta> Like, I know exactly what this guy looks like, but unfortunately just knowing that does not really help me produce good icons of him XD 17:00 < Teceler> ...it is bothering me mildly that that doesn't to my brain look like the same person? 17:01 <@kappabeta> hmm 17:01 <@kappabeta> can your brain be convinced? 17:01 < Teceler> Iiii have no idea 17:01 < Andygal> brains are hard. 17:01 < Teceler> yeah 17:02 <@kappabeta> if I were having that problem I would compare the shape of her mouth and her cheek and jaw to the other icons, because those are distinctive features that she has and they correspond pretty well 17:02 <@kappabeta> and I would be like "look, brain, Same Person" 17:02 <@kappabeta> but idk if that strategy will work for you 17:03 < Teceler> yeah it's more the character-expressiveness-thing than the same-actor thing 17:03 <@kappabeta> aha 17:03 <@kappabeta> in that case there might be nothing to be done 17:03 -!- sigma has joined #backstage 17:03 < Teceler> hello sigma 17:03 < Kelish> hi! 17:03 < Andygal> Hi sigma 17:03 < sigma> Hello all 17:03 <@kappabeta> problems of *that* form I generally handle at an earlier stage by only collecting up the icons that look right in the first place 17:03 * Teceler nods. 17:03 <@kappabeta> i'm told that i'm pretty good at doing that 17:03 <@kappabeta> XD 17:04 < Teceler> that was what I did to start with! but I wound up without any useful wounds icons! XD 17:04 <@kappabeta> haha hmm 17:04 < Teceler> so I will stare at it for a while and see if my brain is convincable 17:04 < Kelish> heh 17:04 < Kelish> "wound" up 17:04 < Teceler> so I went Hunting :P 17:04 < Teceler> pfffft 17:04 <@Adelene> Oh hey Kel. Godsfire. 17:04 < Kelish> ohh 17:04 < Andygal> are you any good at photo editing? 17:05 < Teceler> Andygal: hm? 17:05 < Teceler> um, some? 17:05 * kappabeta peers at iconset 17:05 <@kappabeta> maybe I can try to herd you up a good wounds 17:05 < Andygal> I was thinking edit a photo to look woundsy? 17:05 < Teceler> ah 17:05 < Teceler> hm 17:05 < Teceler> yeah getting real-looking wounds might be a bit beyond my skills 17:06 <@kappabeta> it seems like it's more important for the *expression* to look woundsey than for there to be actual literal wounds 17:06 < Teceler> I have some with really unhappy expressions 17:06 < Teceler> I"m not sure what a woundsy expresion in particular is though? 17:07 <@kappabeta> an in-pain sort of face, I think? 17:07 < Andygal> well what expression would the character make while in pain? 17:07 < Andygal> tense? tearful? 17:07 * Teceler tries to brain 17:08 < Teceler> sort of tense-grimacing I think? 17:09 < Andygal> name of actress again? 17:10 <@kappabeta> audrey tautou 17:10 < Teceler> audrey tautou 17:10 < Teceler> pft 17:10 < Andygal> pffft 17:10 <@kappabeta> http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u25/procraftination/icons/AudreyTautou/mine015.png that seems like a "maybe, if you're desperate" sort of grimacey face option 17:11 < Teceler> hm 17:11 < Teceler> maybe 17:11 * Teceler squints at. 17:11 <@kappabeta> http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u25/procraftination/icons/AudreyTautou/mine094.png that one seems more in-character as far as i'm able to read the character, but might be farther from the right type of expression 17:12 <@kappabeta> and i've now exhausted my icon resources without anything else catching my eye 17:13 < Teceler> like there's kind of an element of [words] defiance? too? like. 'yes I am in a lot of pain am I doing this anyway'? 17:14 < Andygal> I am not finding anything really good on google images. 17:15 <@kappabeta> hmm. in that case 094 seems like it might in fact be a good one 17:18 < Andygal> you can always use it for now and change it later 17:38 -!- Kelish is now known as Kelsewhere 17:39 < sigma> How's today going, MWF? 17:39 < Andygal> OK 17:40 * Teceler has a particularly unpleasant headache 17:41 * Andygal offers Teceler some tylenol 17:41 < Teceler> ...that... is actually a good idea 17:41 < Teceler> but requires getting up, ugh 17:42 < sigma> Headache day isn't very nice. 17:43 * Adelene suggests that Tec relocate the tylenol bottle to her computer next time she is up. 17:43 < Teceler> heh 17:44 < sigma> I hope it gets better for you. 17:44 < Teceler> got someone who was up to grab some some 17:44 <@Adelene> :) 17:46 < sigma> Good plan :) 17:47 -!- FacelessZelda has joined #backstage 17:47 < FacelessZelda> hi 17:48 < Teceler> hello 17:48 < FacelessZelda> things! how are they? 17:49 < sigma> I should get up and eat something 17:50 * Teceler encourages 17:51 < sigma> Ok! 17:52 -!- sigma is now known as sigma-away 17:53 < FacelessZelda> I am up and about to eat something (while watching gravity falls) 18:01 -!- Adelene is now known as AFKdelene 18:05 < sigma-away> Evenstar, if you still need more sandboxes, have you considered another bout against Alicorn's insatiable hunger for tags? 18:06 < sigma-away> I think I've only seen you do Isabellas with her, and you have lots more of interesting characters 18:11 < sigma-away> Also wow, things can get spectacularly messy with the OTC operative big guns. 18:19 < Evenstar> sigma: Yep 18:19 < Evenstar> And that is an interesting thought! 18:19 <@Sonata> (You can't use a FROZEN TEAR in a piece of cloth because then it won't rhyme.) 18:19 < PDV> heehee 18:21 < sigma-away> Use for what? 18:22 -!- sigma-away is now known as sigma 18:22 < Evenstar> Sonata: You could use FISH EARPHONES which is a rhyming anagram. 18:23 < Evenstar> Wait nope 18:23 < Evenstar> I can't rhyme 18:23 < Evenstar> The ear's in the wrong place :P 18:23 < sigma> For the fashion sphere, ah. 18:23 <@Sonata> I don't know what a FISHPHONE EAR is but it sounds messy. 18:24 < Teceler> pfft 18:25 < Evenstar> a POSH FINE SHEAR might work! 18:26 <@kappabeta> hahahahaha 18:26 <@Sonata> oooh 18:26 <@Sonata> nice 18:27 < Evenstar> Sigma: I usually only run Isabella with Alicorn because Isabellas are entirely my own. I might run an Eva with an Alicorn now that you mention it though! 18:27 < Evenstar> (Also I am not sure most Alicorn characters would appreciate the presence of a Jinx) 18:28 < Evenstar> (Incidentally, anagrams work because scrabble scores.) 18:28 <@kappabeta> ahahaha 18:28 < Evenstar> (Even if there is not a actual 'anagram' equilibrator, scrabble scores are the same for the same letters always.) 18:32 -!- sigma_ has joined #backstage 18:33 -!- sigma has quit 18:34 -!- sigma_ is now known as sigma 18:41 -!- sigma has quit 19:21 -!- AFKdelene is now known as Adelene 19:29 <@kappabeta> man, who even invented house paint? who decided "this surface should be a different colour. to accomplish this goal, I will slather it in a substance that is going to give off noxious fumes for a week afterward. what a brilliant idea. there are no drawbacks to this plan." 19:29 < Teceler> XDXDXD 19:29 < Andygal> XDXD 19:30 < Teceler> ...somehow I don't think that was the relevant thoughtprocess 19:30 <@kappabeta> (they painted the door to the stairwell on my floor. i have been Suffering.) 19:30 < Andygal> (hugs?) 19:30 <@kappabeta> and it's the door to the *stairwell* of all things so my choices if I want to go out are "suffer through opening the actual fume-emitting door" or "suffer through waiting for the elevator" 19:31 <@kappabeta> like if it was the door to the garbage chute or something I could just hold my breath long enough to go down the stairs, although I guess the joke would be on me if they had painted the garbage chute doors on every single floor 19:31 * kappabeta adds hugs to cherished hug collection 19:33 <@kappabeta> I should probably leave the house tomorrow anyway if this problem persists, and just spend all day at the mall or something 19:33 < Andygal> should stop fuming in a day or so. 19:34 <@kappabeta> it has already been fuming for longer than that. 19:34 < Andygal> :P 19:34 <@kappabeta> ? 19:34 < Andygal> sorry. 19:37 -!- PDV is now known as PDVanished 19:48 <@kappabeta> i talked to my dad and apparently they didn't just paint the doors, they painted the *entire stairwell* 19:50 < Andygal> Blech. 19:51 < Teceler> wow. 19:52 <@kappabeta> he is unsure of why the fumes have been fuming for a week, but suspects they might be painting the stairwells in stages, and then the fumes from whichever is the fresh part permeate the rest 20:19 -!- PDVanished has quit 20:20 -!- PDV has joined #backstage 20:41 < Evenstar> Hi again all 20:42 < Andygal> Hi. 20:42 < Teceler> hello again Evenstar 20:42 <@Adelene> o/ 20:42 < Teceler> I had a question for you, let's see if I can remember it 20:42 < Teceler> oh 20:43 < Teceler> if someone has an OTC bank account, can they redeem coins directly out of it, do do they have to instantiate and then redeem them? (for that matter, how do withdrawals and deposits actually work, effectively, for people using them?) 21:05 < Teceler> Evenstar? 21:05 -!- FacelessZelda has quit 21:07 -!- sigma has joined #backstage 21:22 < Evenstar> Teceler: Yes you can redeem directly 21:22 < Evenstar> sorry 21:22 < Teceler> okay good to know 21:22 < Andygal> sweet. 21:23 < Teceler> (Thorn is delighted, yes XD) 21:23 < Andygal> XD 21:25 < Andygal> and I am delighted by Steve's attempt at psychology. 21:27 < Teceler> hm? 21:27 < Andygal> godsfire. 21:28 < Teceler> yeah, but, like, which part :P 21:28 < Andygal> latest stevetag 21:28 < Teceler> oh 21:28 < Teceler> oh that XD 21:28 < Teceler> yeah 21:28 < Teceler> that amused me too XD 21:30 < Andygal> is it going to explode horribly and unleash a horde of mutant critters? 21:31 < Teceler> pffft 21:31 < Teceler> no 21:31 < Teceler> (that's later :P) 21:32 < Andygal> And Steve doesn't have a gun on him. Too bad for him. 21:36 -!- Verdancy has joined #backstage 21:36 < Verdancy> Hi everyone! 21:36 < Verdancy> Wow that is a lot of people. 21:37 < Verdancy> Anyway, long day, finally back at computer, gonna go tag. 21:37 < Teceler> hello Verdancy! 21:37 < Andygal> HI Verdancy 21:37 < PDV> `\o 21:37 < Verdancy> Oh! Hi! 21:37 < Teceler> https://space-between.dreamwidth.org/icons?sortorder=keyword 21:38 < Teceler> (incidentally I did that image editing and now maybe have a wounds icon I don't hate) 21:38 < Verdancy> oh gosh 21:38 < Verdancy> ahaha 21:38 < Verdancy> I was about to ask, did you find it or did you edit is yourself 21:38 < Verdancy> *it yourself 21:38 < Andygal> Pretty good. 21:39 < Verdancy> I think six looks better than the others 21:39 < Verdancy> Also she looks likes she's gonna shank someone 21:39 < Andygal> that was the one that got edited. 21:39 < Teceler> ahahaha 21:39 < Verdancy> That's what I thought! 21:39 < Andygal> lots of shanking happens in FL. 21:39 < Verdancy> I bet! 21:39 < Teceler> yeah 6 I edited from a, um, less bloody original 21:40 < Verdancy> pfft hee 21:40 < Teceler> but what I was looking for was -- mmm I said this earlier, moment 21:40 < Teceler> <Teceler> like there's kind of an element of [words] defiance? too? like. 'yes I am in a lot of pain am I doing this anyway'? 21:41 < Verdancy> eee 21:41 < Verdancy> yeah! 21:42 < Andygal> I think you succeeded on that front. 21:42 < Teceler> yay 21:43 < Teceler> ...it's probably not worth adding a Seeking icon that would be used, like, once 21:43 < Teceler> but I am kind of tempted anyway XD 21:43 < Verdancy> Seeking 21:43 < Verdancy> as in the Very Bad thing 21:43 < Andygal> XP 21:43 < Verdancy> that 21:43 < Andygal> Yes that. 21:43 < Teceler> Seeking Mr. Eaten's Name, yes XD 21:44 < Verdancy> welp 21:44 < Verdancy> brb gotta mediate toddlers 21:44 < Teceler> ...good luck 21:44 < Teceler> (I found an icon with a bunch of candles, even XD) 21:47 < Andygal> ... 21:47 < Teceler> XD 21:47 < Teceler> (I was not actually looking, I just came across it XD) 21:48 < Verdancy> back 21:49 < Teceler> wb 21:50 < Verdancy> thanks! 21:57 -!- Kelsewhere is now known as Kelish 21:57 < Kelish> bkish 21:57 < Kelish> (very ish. just found a lot of chem hw that needs to be done) 21:57 < Andygal> Ugh. 21:57 < Verdancy> wb Kel! 21:57 < Teceler> wb Kel 21:57 < Teceler> [hugs] 21:57 < Verdancy> sorry about chem homework 21:57 * Verdancy offers hugs 21:57 < Kelish> [hugs] 21:57 < Andygal> godsfire tag is yours when you are done homework. 21:58 < Verdancy> Um. I have /also/ done a lot of chem homework 21:58 < Verdancy> If you want help I could maybe 21:58 < Kelish> I know what I'm doing 21:58 * Verdancy nods 21:58 < Kelish> it's just time and attention eating 21:58 < Verdancy> yeah 21:58 < Kelish> but sorry about dropping communication suddenly 21:58 < Kelish> (also for not tagging) 21:58 < Verdancy> ...I wasn't here when that happened 21:58 < Verdancy> so 21:59 * Verdancy tosses fluffy pillows and blankets Kel's way 21:59 < Kelish> (ee) 21:59 < Verdancy> I do not think apologies are necessary 22:00 < Kelish> there have been times I should have been tagging that I haven't 22:00 < Kelish> and it is holding up Plots 22:00 < Teceler> Kel it is okay 22:00 * Verdancy has also done that 22:00 < Teceler> life happens 22:00 < Verdancy> shoosh 22:01 < Kelish> not even life things though sometimes 22:01 < Verdancy> where is that bit about all the tags eating your soul 22:01 < Verdancy> I need to quotefile that 22:01 < Kelish> ? 22:02 < Teceler> [hugs] 22:02 * Verdancy offers hugs 22:03 < Kelish> ? 22:03 < Kelish> [hugs] 22:03 < Verdancy> For you because you feel bad 22:03 < Verdancy> *hugs* 22:04 < Verdancy> anyway one time Evenstar was talking about how too many tags are exhausting and sap your creativity and you just kind of need to work on them as inspiration comes etc 22:04 < Verdancy> and she changed her nick to ALL THE TAGS 22:04 < Verdancy> and just as someone else was coming in 22:04 < Verdancy> she posted "ALL THE TAGS WILL EAT YOUR SOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUL" 22:04 < Andygal> XD 22:05 < Kelish> hee 22:05 < Teceler> XD 22:05 < Teceler> brb 22:06 < Verdancy> kay 22:09 < Teceler> back 22:09 < Verdancy> wb! 22:09 < Kelish> wb! 22:10 < Andygal> wb! 22:10 < Kelish> ooh that's pretty 22:11 * Teceler is very welcomed back 22:11 < Kelish> :D 22:11 < Verdancy> hee 22:13 <@Sonata> Evenstar: cat tag 22:17 < Andygal> sonata that is not really how blessings, I think? 22:17 <@Sonata> Yes, but Ahrotahn doesn't know that. 22:17 <@Sonata> (I actually chose her blessings with a random number generator.) 22:17 < Teceler> pfft 22:17 < Andygal> pffft 22:17 < Verdancy> hee 22:17 < Andygal> resolve works anyway! 22:17 <@Sonata> Well, we shall see. 22:27 < Evenstar> Sonata: Hee. Ahrotahn's 'this is a puzzle' sense really does not give up, does it. 22:27 <@Sonata> Well, not yet. 22:27 * Andygal is amused. 22:28 <@Sonata> She might soon decide that this puzzle requires something elsewhere she hasn't done yet. 22:28 < Verdancy> omg 22:28 * Sonata eyes Ahrotahn's to-do list 22:28 < Evenstar> Well technically that is correct 22:28 < Evenstar> Except that the relevant thing is 'go insane' 22:28 < Andygal> XDXD 22:28 < Evenstar> Either that or find a very specific mirror that is not in her universe 22:29 < Evenstar> :P 22:29 < Teceler> XD 22:29 < Sky> ...was it the mirror-marches that the cat went to? 22:30 < Andygal> that's how they travel. 22:30 <@Sonata> The cat didn't /seem/ insane... 22:30 < Sky> aha 22:30 < Andygal> it's a cat. 22:30 <@Sonata> oh well that just explains everything now doesn't it 22:30 < Teceler> technically you can go to the MIrror-Marches without being insane at the time 22:31 < Teceler> it's just /really hard/ 22:31 < Verdancy> pfft 22:31 < Evenstar> (Sorrow-Spiders do it as well.) 22:32 < Andygal> (hide your mirrors) 22:34 < Verdancy> Okay from what little I have gleaned about this topic it seems to me that you should be hiding everything and everyone 22:34 < Teceler> XD 22:35 < Evenstar> Yeah, Fallen London is like that. 22:35 < Andygal> XD 22:36 < Teceler> XD 22:36 < Andygal> but definitely hide the mirrors. 22:36 < Andygal> Unless you want your eyeballs used for spoilery things. 22:36 < Teceler> Evenstar, Andygal, do you want to come chime in on Correspondence and Goal arguing about death? :P 22:36 < Andygal> !!! 22:37 < Andygal> which channel? 22:37 < Verdancy> #correspondence 22:37 < Teceler> same 22:37 < Teceler> #Correspondence 22:40 < Evenstar> tag, Sonata 23:01 < sigma> I'm assuming the party is going on in correspondence now 23:01 < Teceler> kind yeah sigma 23:01 < Teceler> sorry? 23:02 < Verdancy> Sorry, Sigma. 23:03 < Verdancy> ...Do you want logs? 23:03 < sigma> Nah, but thanks 23:03 < Verdancy> Okay. 23:04 < sigma> I'll be okay, I'll do other things for now. 23:05 < Verdancy> *hugs and fluffy pillows and blankets for Sigma* 23:06 < sigma> :) 23:08 < Verdancy> :) 23:14 < Kelish> oops 23:14 -!- Kelish is now known as Kelsleep 23:14 < Verdancy> oh 23:14 < Teceler> sleep well Kel? 23:14 < Verdancy> Good night, Kel! 23:14 < Kelsleep> rrg. I'll try to do /something/ tomorrow 23:14 < Teceler> [hugs] 23:14 < Kelsleep> anyway, goodnight 23:14 < Kelsleep> hugs 23:15 < Verdancy> *fluffy pillows and hugs and soft blankets for Kel* 23:16 < Kelsleep> [warmfuzz] 23:17 < Verdancy> *warmfuzz back* 23:26 < Andygal> night Kel. 23:28 -!- Kelsleep has quit 23:35 -!- kappabeta has left #backstage 23:55 -!- sigma has quit 23:57 <@Sonata> Tag, Evenstar 23:59 -!- Adelene is now known as Sleepdelene 23:59 < Verdancy> Good night, Adelene. <3 23:59 < Verdancy> Sleep well. 23:59 < Andygal> goodnight. 23:59 <@Sleepdelene> <3 --- Day changed Wed Aug 26 2015 00:12 -!- MTC has joined #backstage 00:43 -!- Evenstar has quit 00:55 < Teceler> going to go sleep now 00:55 < Teceler> good night all 00:55 -!- Sky has quit 00:55 * Verdancy is going to Zzz too 00:55 < Verdancy> because apparently sameish sleep schedules 00:56 < Teceler> apparently! 00:57 < Teceler> right 00:57 < Teceler> sleep 00:58 < Verdancy> yep 00:58 -!- Verdancy is now known as VerdanZzz 00:58 < VerdanZzz> Good night, everyone. <3 00:58 -!- Teceler is now known as Teceler|Asleep 01:21 -!- PDV is now known as PDVanished 01:21 -!- PDVanished is now known as PDV 02:39 -!- PDV has quit
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Post by Mother Starlight on Aug 27, 2015 16:39:39 GMT
06:25 -!- Andygal has quit 06:45 -!- FacelessWork has joined #backstage 07:07 -!- VerdanZzz has quit 07:07 < FacelessWork> hello 07:30 -!- kappabeta has joined #backstage 07:30 -!- mode/#backstage [+o kappabeta] by ChanServ 07:37 < FacelessWork> anyone here? 08:29 -!- FacelessWork has quit 08:44 -!- kappabeta has quit 09:16 -!- FacelessBletch has joined #backstage 09:16 < FacelessBletch> Salutations o/ 09:19 -!- kappabeta has joined #backstage 09:19 -!- mode/#backstage [+o kappabeta] by ChanServ 09:28 < FacelessBletch> kappa? 09:50 -!- FacelessBletch has quit 10:04 -!- Verdancy has joined #backstage 10:05 < Verdancy> Hi, everyone. 10:07 <@Sleepdelene> o/ 10:08 < Verdancy> Hi Adelene! 10:09 <@Sleepdelene> :) 10:09 -!- Sleepdelene is now known as Adelene 10:09 < Verdancy> Good morning. :) 10:10 <@Adelene> ^^ 10:10 * Adelene can words, honest. :) 10:10 < Verdancy> hee 10:10 <@Adelene> (yes, good morning) 10:10 < Verdancy> :) 10:10 < Verdancy> it's fine 10:12 < Verdancy> words are not always necessary for communication 10:12 <@Adelene> *nod* 10:13 < Verdancy> hee :) 10:14 <@Adelene> So, Esthfora is going to be Eclipse!Lurker's muse, I am amused. Also I rather suspect that this will have Effects. ^^ 10:14 < Verdancy> oh my gosh 10:15 < Verdancy> Effects, yeah 10:15 < Verdancy> ...also cute 10:15 <@Adelene> mmhmmm ^^ 10:17 <@Adelene> Like, one obviousish one is, muses talk to each other, I think? So, like, Metis (Tyche's muse) and Circ (Thorn's) will now have substantial access to Esthfora. ^^ 10:18 <@Adelene> (And given, well, Thorn, that could be pretty major.) 10:18 < Verdancy> Also given the exsurgent virus 10:19 <@Adelene> *nod* Kind of. Esthfora is not a cure-all there. Casual access to precognition goes pretty far on that, though. 10:19 * Verdancy nods 10:19 < Verdancy> also I thought she was going to have a thing with losing track of time? if she put anyone else under her protection 10:20 <@Adelene> Lurker's already protected, Esthfora being her muse actually makes that easier I think. 10:20 * Verdancy nods 10:20 <@Adelene> Also, Esthfora being Lurker's muse means the muse instance of Esthfora does /not/ lose access to memory in a functional sense, and can help them figure out what's going on and how to fix it. 10:21 < Verdancy> oh! 10:21 < Verdancy> That's cool. ~plot~ 10:21 <@Adelene> Because that instance of Esthfora can use computer memory. Yeah. ^^ 10:21 < Verdancy> hee 10:23 <@Adelene> *examines relevant etherpad* Having an Esthfora muse seems like it should at /very/ least count as 'carrying around an object taken from Esthfora's worldself'. 10:24 < Verdancy> ...I am so behind on the etherpad 10:24 <@Adelene> The sendingscience one? 10:24 * Verdancy nods 10:24 <@Adelene> I just trimmed it, actually, you're going to want the google doc. 10:24 < Verdancy> huh 10:24 < Verdancy> Can I have a link? 10:25 <@Adelene> [gdocs link redacted] 10:25 < Verdancy> Thank you. 10:25 <@Adelene> no problem :) 10:26 < Verdancy> :) 10:26 <@Adelene> (*checks* nearing 30k words, possibly over that with the sendingscience stuff.) 10:26 < Verdancy> What implications does 'carrying around an object from Esthfora's worldself' have? 10:26 < Verdancy> .....wow that is a /lot/ 10:27 <@Adelene> Makes it less effortful for Esthfora to protect you. 10:27 < Verdancy> That is good. 10:27 <@Adelene> *nod* 10:28 <@Adelene> Carrying something from her worldself around in your mindscape is even more helpful, and having her as a muse isn't exactly that but seems probably closer to that than to carrying something with your body. 10:28 <@Adelene> So, yeah. 10:29 * Verdancy nods 10:32 * Verdancy is reading the epic now 10:32 <@Adelene> hee ^^ 10:32 < Verdancy> :) 10:42 -!- Teceler|Asleep is now known as Teceler 10:42 <@Adelene> o/ 10:43 < Teceler> morning (ish. it is still morning) 10:43 <@Adelene> here, yup. 10:44 < Teceler> here, too. just. not by a ton XD 10:44 <@Adelene> ^^ 10:48 < Verdancy> Hi Teceler! 10:48 < Verdancy> sorry computer is being kind of weird 10:48 < Teceler> hi 10:53 * Adelene is curious to what degree Tyche's team's muses having access to Esthfora is going to be a big deal. ^^ 10:53 < Teceler> hmm 10:53 < Teceler> depends on what they can do wit that? 10:54 < Teceler> *with 10:54 <@Adelene> Depends on how well they pick up the knack of asking the right kinds of questions, and how comfortable they are with using the sorts of answers they'll get, but casual access to precognition seems like kind of a big deal. ^^ 10:55 < Teceler> hmmm 10:56 <@Adelene> Like, I could certainly see Circ (is that supposed to be Circe?) asking Esthfora 'is it a good idea to let Thorn do this' and 'how do I talk Thorn out of doing that' ten or twenty times a day. ^^ 10:56 < Teceler> pffffft 10:56 < Verdancy> pfft hee 10:56 < Teceler> that is entirely possible! 10:56 < Teceler> (and no, it's supposed to be Circ. I think. I don't know.) 10:57 <@Adelene> (ok *shrug*) 10:58 <@kappabeta> heee 10:58 * Sonata is awake 10:58 < Verdancy> Hi Kappa! 10:58 < Verdancy> Hi Sonata! 10:58 < Teceler> hello kappa, hello Sonata 10:58 <@Sonata> good morning! 10:58 <@Adelene> o/ 11:21 -!- FacelessWork has joined #backstage 11:21 < FacelessWork> Salutations o/ 11:21 < Teceler> hello Faceless 11:22 < Verdancy> Hi Faceless! 11:29 < FacelessWork> how are people? 11:30 < Verdancy> Alright! 11:30 < Verdancy> How are you? 11:33 < FacelessWork> I am good 11:34 < FacelessWork> who plays Rukhura and Ahrotahn? 11:34 < Teceler> Ahrotahn is Sonata 11:34 < Teceler> I think Rukhura is Sky? 11:34 < Teceler> *is written by 11:34 < FacelessWork> ok 11:35 < FacelessWork> I am going to answer their question from the magic thread tonight 11:35 < FacelessWork> which means I for the first time I am actually have meaningfull MWF interactions. I am like caliborn: success in a very simple thing makes me happy 11:36 < Teceler> ...mouseover text is still not working 11:36 < Teceler> why 11:36 < FacelessWork> in the forum or your pc in general? 11:36 < Teceler> in firefox 11:36 < Teceler> I think 11:42 < FacelessWork> cant help you there either way 11:42 < FacelessWork> beyond asking "what google says about it?" 11:42 < FacelessWork> so 11:42 < FacelessWork> what google says about it? 11:44 < Teceler> pfft 11:44 < Teceler> haven't looked yet probably should 11:45 < Teceler> ...Sonata why do I have all these rats 11:45 < Teceler> :P 11:46 * Sonata shrugs 11:46 < Teceler> XD 11:46 <@Sonata> why not? 11:46 < Teceler> XD 11:46 < Teceler> okay 11:46 <@Sonata> it's what one does with rats, isn't it? sends them to people? 11:46 < FacelessWork> tec, you should hear what google says, google is your friend, that is why google spies on all aspects of your life. 11:47 < Teceler> pffffffffffffft 11:47 < Verdancy> pffffft 11:47 < FacelessWork> *tama voice* we give humans rats because they never manage to get any for themselves 11:47 < Verdancy> omg 11:48 < FacelessWork> :3 11:49 < Teceler> (Sonata sent me-- [counts] 100,000 and 777,777 rats (in two sets). also 1,000 rat points and 3 rat bees.) 11:49 < Verdancy> Sonata why 11:49 < FacelessWork> what is a rat bee? an avatar animal? 11:49 < Verdancy> ...Sonata /where/ 11:49 < Teceler> because rat sending simulator XD 11:50 <@Adelene> *snicker* 11:50 -!- Sky has joined #backstage 11:50 < Teceler> hello Sky 11:50 < FacelessWork> do I want to know what is the purpose of a rat sending simulator? 11:50 < Sky> Hello 11:50 < FacelessWork> hi sky o/ 11:50 < Teceler> fun! 11:50 <@Sonata> the purpose is to simulate the sending of rats, obvs 11:58 < FacelessWork> the noblest of goals 11:58 < FacelessWork> hey 11:58 < FacelessWork> Miles and Mark are still stuck on another worlds? 11:59 < Teceler> Mark is stuck in Darkness 11:59 <@kappabeta> mark is stuck in WoD, miles is having a depressive episode 12:00 < FacelessWork> oh noes :o 12:00 * FacelessWork sends hugs to Miles 12:00 < Verdancy> aww Miles 12:00 < Verdancy> *hugs for Miles* 12:00 < Teceler> [hugs for Miles] 12:00 < Verdancy> *hugs for Mark, too* 12:01 < Verdancy> except um 12:01 <@kappabeta> XD 12:01 < Verdancy> strictly internet hugs 12:01 <@kappabeta> hehe 12:01 < FacelessWork> yeah, that 12:01 < FacelessWork> anyway we can get a poof to Mark? 12:02 <@kappabeta> ...oh man i'm imagining importing poofs to the WoD en masse. 12:02 <@kappabeta> Millions of poofs. 12:02 < Verdancy> rain of poofs 12:02 <@kappabeta> Small soft fluffy spheres raining from the sky. 12:02 < FacelessWork> it is raining poofs, hallelujah 12:02 <@kappabeta> hahahahaha 12:02 < FacelessWork> (makes me think of slime rain for obvious reasons) 12:03 < FacelessWork> I like the idea of poof rain, lets create a spell to do that. 12:05 < Verdancy> also actual rain of the flavored water they need 12:05 < Verdancy> that too 12:05 < FacelessWork> that would be a ecological disaster 12:05 < FacelessWork> methinks 12:06 < Verdancy> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 12:07 -!- Sonata has quit 12:07 < FacelessWork> well, what is the fragile equilibrium of nature in the face of cuteness xD 12:12 < Teceler> pft 12:14 < Teceler> brb 12:14 < Verdancy> kay 12:17 < Teceler> back 12:17 < Verdancy> wb 12:21 < FacelessWork> wibbles 12:22 -!- Sonata has joined #backstage 12:22 -!- mode/#backstage [+o Sonata] by ChanServ 12:24 < FacelessWork> welcome back sonata o/ 12:24 < Teceler> wb Soanta 12:24 < Teceler> er 12:24 < Teceler> *Sonata 12:24 <@kappabeta> hahahaha 12:24 <@kappabeta> my brain is just like, "Soanta Cloaus?" 12:24 < Teceler> pffft 12:25 < FacelessWork> Soanta Cloaus who comes in august to give you gift suggestions so you know what to want for christmas. 12:27 <@Sonata> hohoho 12:27 < Verdancy> pfft 12:27 < FacelessWork> (tbh, quite useful, I never know what to ask) 12:48 <@Sonata> I'm looking at cryptic crosswords, and even after looking at the answers most of them don't make sense even in retrospect 12:49 <@kappabeta> I have an aunt who's super into cryptic crosswords and I could never get into them for just that reason 12:49 <@kappabeta> apparently there are all sorts of really obscure rules for what the clues actually mean 13:00 <@Sonata> I've solved three of the clues on http://www.benefactum.ca/puzzles/cryptics/beginner1.jpg 13:02 <@Sonata> (1A 2D 9D) 13:13 * Sonata headaches, writes own 13:16 -!- FacelessWork has quit 13:18 < Sky> huh. I don't remember encountering this kind of crossword before. I looked at the answers, but they were interesting. 13:29 -!- PDV has joined #backstage 13:38 -!- Andygal has joined #backstage 13:38 < Verdancy> Hi PDV, Andygal! 13:38 < Andygal> Hi. 13:38 < PDV> hallo 13:47 < Andygal> sp? 13:47 < Andygal> sup? 13:48 * Sonata is crossing words 13:50 < Teceler> bk 13:50 < Teceler> hello PDV, hello Andygal 13:50 -!- PDV is now known as PDVanished 13:51 -!- PDVanished is now known as PDV 13:53 < Verdancy> wb 14:58 -!- sigma has joined #backstage 14:58 <@Sonata> hi sigma 14:58 < sigma> Hello! 14:58 < Teceler> hello sigma 14:58 < Andygal> Hi. 14:59 < Verdancy> Hi Sigma! 14:59 < sigma> Hi Verdancy! Hi Andygal and Teceler and Sonata! 15:00 < Teceler> brb 15:02 < Verdancy> k 15:03 < Andygal> also brb 15:04 < Verdancy> k 15:05 -!- MTC has quit 15:08 < sigma> Ooh, Ina inna maze. 15:08 < Verdancy> pfft 15:08 < Teceler> bk 15:08 * Andygal backs with food 15:09 < Teceler> going to disappear for a while in ~10-20 minutes 15:09 < Verdancy> kay 15:09 < Verdancy> wb, both of you 15:09 < Verdancy> Good luck with your thing? 15:09 < Teceler> thanks 15:09 < Verdancy> :) 15:27 < Teceler> have to go now 15:27 < Verdancy> Bye Teceler! 15:27 < Verdancy> Good luck. Have fun maybe? 15:27 < Verdancy> If possible? 15:31 < Andygal> good luck? 15:37 < sigma> I posted a joke about one of the Inamaze posts to the Alicorn forum. 15:38 <@Sonata> heeee 15:39 < Sky> that would be /even more/ concerning. 15:41 < Verdancy> pfft 15:41 -!- tecephone has joined #backstage 15:41 < Andygal> pffft 15:42 < sigma> Some circle designs have magic summoning powers. It could happen. 15:46 < sigma> Though daeva have so far been all of one size. 15:46 < sigma> ... They can't go much smaller, but I could imagine an enterprising angel or demon building themselves a larger body. 15:47 < sigma> For being more imposing. 15:50 < Verdancy> Hi Teceler? 15:50 <@Adelene> Tec is afk. 15:51 <@Adelene> (and phone!Tec doesn't usually talk until later in whatever expedition she's on. ^^ ) 15:52 < Verdancy> oh, okay 15:56 < tecephone> Mostly can't talk right now yeah 15:56 < Verdancy> kay 15:56 < Verdancy> Hi, though! 15:56 < tecephone> Hi 15:57 <@Adelene> #ace #joke http://patroghost.co.vu/post/101202839896 15:59 <@Sonata> it's the kind of joke that [laughing but also crying] 15:59 < Verdancy> pfffffft hee 16:00 <@Adelene> yeah. 16:00 < Verdancy> yeah. 16:00 <@Sonata> I like the look on his face in panel 2 though 16:00 <@Adelene> *hugs* 16:00 < Andygal> Yeah :( 16:00 < Verdancy> (I've seen that one, I was more upset the first time) 16:00 <@Adelene> mmhmm. 16:00 <@Sonata> he's so :O 16:00 <@Adelene> *giggle* 16:00 < tecephone> Can sometimes read but only type between things 16:00 * Verdancy nods 16:03 < sigma> An ironic hooray for erasure. 16:04 -!- omegabeta has joined #backstage 16:05 <@Adelene> http://summonerjolan.tumblr.com/post/125186945722/montypythonandtheholyblog-raptorific 16:06 < Andygal> kitties! 16:07 <@Adelene> ^^ 16:07 <@Sonata> hello cat 16:08 < Verdancy> pfft hee 16:08 < Verdancy> Hi omegabeta? 16:08 < omegabeta> hallo 16:08 < Andygal> Hi? 16:15 -!- tecephone has quit 16:20 <@Sonata> hi 16:30 -!- tecephone has joined #backstage 16:30 < tecephone> Here now 16:31 <@Adelene> :) 16:32 -!- FacelessDude has joined #backstage 16:32 < FacelessDude> Salutations 16:33 < tecephone> Hey 16:35 < sigma> Hello 16:35 < Verdancy> Hi 16:36 < Andygal> Hi. 16:43 < tecephone> Is wergeldt someone here? 16:49 < Verdancy> wergeldt? 16:49 < sigma> I doubt that's me, I don't recognize the name. Should I have seen it somewhere? 16:49 < tecephone> Not unless you're them no 16:49 < Andygal> I am not that person. 16:50 < tecephone> Hm 16:50 < sigma> Sonata, two posts back in cat-thread, the ᎷᏋᏕᏕᏋᏁᏳᏋᏒ link is broken 16:50 <@Sonata> oh dear 16:50 < Andygal> Oh well. 16:51 <@Sonata> We can try to back up when Evenstar gets here, she has a typo in her post too 16:52 < tecephone> Will will send chess asking who they are and why they're sending me catboxes XD 16:52 < Verdancy> pfft hee okay 16:52 < Andygal> I have not sent you a catbox, do you want one? 16:53 < tecephone> XD 16:53 < tecephone> Don't object just wondering who is 16:54 < sigma> This catbox really does need a catbox tag. 16:54 < tecephone> Hm? 16:55 * Andygal does not generally bother with catboxes as I am not looking for a cat. 16:55 < tecephone> Mhm 16:56 < tecephone> Kappa needs a starling cat iirc 16:56 < tecephone> Er 16:56 <@Adelene> starveling cat? 16:56 < tecephone> Yeah 16:56 < tecephone> Phone does not think that's a word 16:56 < sigma> In Psychonauts, when you find a hatbox but you don't yet have the matching tag, your character says "This hatbox needs a hatbox tag." 16:57 < tecephone> Pfft 16:57 < sigma> (Crying hatboxes are a type of Emotional Baggage.) 16:58 < Andygal> crying hatboxes? 16:58 <@Sonata> as hatboxes, they are a type of baggage; they cry because they are emotional. 16:59 < Andygal> pffft 16:59 < Teceler> back 16:59 < sigma> The emotional baggage all cry until you bring their tags. 16:59 * Teceler flops 16:59 < Andygal> wb Teceler 16:59 < Andygal> how did your thing go? 16:59 < Teceler> okay 16:59 < Teceler> just tired 16:59 < Verdancy> that's goodish 17:00 < sigma> I heard that message enough that it's what I think of when I hear "catbox". 17:00 < Teceler> ha 17:00 -!- FacelessDude has quit 17:01 < sigma> But Teceler's mysterious catbox really does need a tag, to explain why wergeldt is sending it. 17:01 < Teceler> two of them 17:01 < Teceler> also an investigation invite XD 17:02 < Verdancy> huh 17:02 < Teceler> oh hey I have a catbox I can send them XD 17:02 < sigma> Wergeldt is kind of an ominous name. Are the catboxes some sort of apology for murder? 17:02 < Teceler> XD 17:04 < Teceler> "Connected: The Duchess is dropping... " 17:04 < Andygal> XD 17:04 -!- tecephone has quit 17:05 < Teceler> (I have 70 Connected: The Duchess, from grinding Connected: Bohemians, so XD) 17:05 < Andygal> and what were you grinding Bohemians for? 17:06 < Teceler> partly general purposes, partly for my Salon 17:06 < Andygal> Ah. 17:06 < Teceler> actually I should grind that up as far as I can before Connection changes there, Niryl would have it high 17:07 < sigma> "Grinding Bohemians" sounds lewd. 17:07 < Teceler> ... 17:07 < Teceler> augh 17:07 < Andygal> pffffft 17:09 < sigma> Mostly picturing "La Vie Bohème" from Rent. 17:10 < sigma> But with more freakdancing. 17:10 * Teceler sighs. 17:11 < Teceler> the relevant thing is actually 'write poetry in praise of the Duchess' :P 17:12 < sigma> I don't know your game's Bohemians, for all I know they're all fine upstanding Czechs. 17:12 < Teceler> XD 17:14 < sigma> I'd just avoid standing too close to any windows around them :P 17:15 < Teceler> pft 17:16 < sigma> Lest we experience a third Defenestration of Prague. 17:16 <@kappabeta> prague was defenestrated twice? 17:17 < Andygal> No people were defenstrated in Prague, twice apparently. 17:18 < Andygal> I'd like to see somebody invent a window large enough to defenestrate a city, and then succeed in actually defenstrating one. 17:18 < sigma> For a while the thing to do when you were mad at the government of Prague was to storm city hall and throw them out the window. 17:19 < sigma> Leading to the famous historical events the First Defenestration of Prague, the Second Defenestration of Prague, 17:20 < sigma> and the One-and-a-Halfth Defenestration of Prague. 17:20 < Andygal> ... 17:24 < Teceler> sigma: 17:24 < Teceler> "The Demi-Monde: Bohemians 17:24 < Teceler> Writers, actors, musicians, painters and other reprobates. There is a certain glamour in attic and gutter, but surely there are better ways to make a living." 17:25 < sigma> Cultural Bohemians, then, not geographic ones. Propensity for grinding unknown. 17:26 < Andygal> propensity for grinding higher then average. 17:30 < sigma> Meanwhile, Loki in the Sky seems poised to start a new culinary craze. 17:33 < sigma> All feasting the high society on a delicacy only she supplies. 17:34 < Andygal> taking over a society through their stomachs? 17:38 < sigma> Possibly! 17:38 < sigma> A novel form of conquest. 17:41 <@Sonata> As a person who sometimes eats food, I endorse this strategy. 18:17 -!- omegabeta has quit 18:18 < sigma> Oh, there goes omegabeta. 18:34 -!- FacelessDude has joined #backstage 18:34 -!- sigma_ has joined #backstage 18:35 < FacelessDude> Salutations again everyone 18:35 < Verdancy> Hi Faceless! 18:36 < Andygal> Hi. 18:36 < Sky> salutations and greetings to you 18:37 -!- sigma has quit 18:37 -!- sigma_ is now known as sigma 18:54 < Andygal> Verdancy and Teceler are you working on icons? 18:54 < Teceler> I think I am done with icons? 18:54 < Verdancy> I am! 18:54 < Teceler> Verdancy was earlier though 18:54 < Verdancy> I mean. I'm still working 18:55 < Andygal> OK! 18:55 < Verdancy> https://better-living.dreamwidth.org/icons 18:55 <@kappabeta> nice 18:55 < Verdancy> thanks! 18:55 < Teceler> and we're waiting on Evenstar to finish forum-located setup I think 18:55 < Andygal> pffft you named that icon "orbital friendship cannon" 18:56 < Teceler> hm the angry icon seems kind of -- cheerful? is that just my brain being weird about expressions? 18:56 < Verdancy> um 18:56 < Verdancy> http://www.hollow-art.com/base/seychelle-gabriel-regenerate 18:56 < Teceler> it may just be my brain 18:56 < Verdancy> she seems pretty clearly yelling at someone to me 18:56 < Verdancy> but I did have a moment of "is that angry like the other ones" 18:56 < Verdancy> possibly it's easier to tell in context? 18:57 < Verdancy> IDK what regenerate is but she looks like she's going to cut someone 18:58 < Verdancy> ....possibly /my/ brain is being weird about expressions 18:58 < Teceler> can someone else take a look? 18:59 < Sky> it seems kind of cheerful to me too 18:59 < Andygal> Could go either way? 18:59 <@kappabeta> "fight me" looks like yelling, but it's suffering from being a still frame, I think, the yelling would be clearer if it were in motion 19:00 < Verdancy> I have other angry ones I can use 19:05 < Verdancy> like the two I just uploaded 19:05 < Teceler> ...I just refreshed Niryl's icon page instead XD 19:05 < Teceler> oops 19:06 < Verdancy> pfft hee 19:06 < Teceler> hm 19:06 < Teceler> 3 looks more composed? 19:06 <@kappabeta> fight me #2 looks the most clearly angry to me 19:06 < Teceler> but still angry? 2 looks more overwhelmingly angry yeah 19:07 < Verdancy> angry #2 it is 19:07 < Teceler> she expressions more than Niryl does XD 19:07 < Verdancy> hee 19:09 < Andygal> yah new one is much better. 19:12 -!- sigma has quit 19:17 < Verdancy> I am actually having the most trouble picking a default icon 19:18 <@kappabeta> if it were me, I'd go with "sunshine" out of the ones you have there 19:18 <@kappabeta> but you are not necessarily me 19:20 < Verdancy> hee 19:20 < Verdancy> aww 19:20 < Verdancy> ...I have /lots/ more icons 19:21 < Teceler> are there any expressions not there that you might want? 19:21 < Teceler> er 19:21 < Verdancy> yeah, some 19:21 < Teceler> not in current icon-set 19:21 < Teceler> not not in icons overall 19:21 * Verdancy nods 19:22 < Verdancy> I have candidates for worry and skepticism 19:22 * Teceler nods. 19:22 < Teceler> want to upload those so we can look? or link to? 19:22 * Verdancy nods 19:22 < Verdancy> ...also I want one of her in safety goggles, there were a bunch of those I just have to find them 19:23 < Teceler> heh 19:23 < Teceler> yeah 19:23 < Teceler> as, like, a 'SCIENCE' icon maybe? :P 19:23 < Andygal> heeeee 19:24 < Verdancy> yes! 19:27 <@Sonata> 'fight me' almost looks like grinning 19:29 < Andygal> the old one was even more ambigious. 19:50 < Teceler> adsfkl;j the worried icon 19:50 -!- FacelessDude has quit 19:52 < Verdancy> which one? 19:53 -!- sigma has joined #backstage 19:53 < Andygal> I think I like 3 the best? 19:54 < Andygal> (concerned) 19:55 < Sky> she does look awfully cool in the one for which you have no excuse. 19:55 < Teceler> Verdancy: 'please be okay' 19:55 < Teceler> also there were goggles icons here too: http://www.hollow-art.com/base/seychelle-gabriel-falling-skies 19:56 -!- sigma has quit 19:57 * Verdancy nods 19:57 -!- sigma has joined #backstage 19:57 < Teceler> okay 19:57 * Teceler eyes sigma's connection 19:57 < Andygal> kappabeta do you exist? 19:57 <@kappabeta> it's been rumoured 19:57 <@kappabeta> why? 19:57 < Teceler> Andygal: do you want a surprisebox? 19:58 * Teceler just drew square of lofty words 19:58 < Andygal> I was just wondering whether "only too real" is actually still in progress or not. 19:58 < Andygal> Teceler: sure. 19:58 < Teceler> I don't think I have your FL-name? 19:58 < Andygal> atheistcanuck 19:58 < Teceler> kay 19:59 < Andygal> Or AndreaD 19:59 <@kappabeta> it probably isn't, it'll unplus next time I update the index 19:59 < Andygal> Ok, just curious. 19:59 < Verdancy> I have a default I like maybe 20:00 * Andygal is properly finishing reading Effulgence. 20:00 < Andygal> (for now) 20:00 < Verdancy> pfft 20:00 < Verdancy> (for now) 20:00 < Andygal> There is persumably going to be more of it soon! 20:00 < Andygal> and then I won't be finished it anymore! 20:01 < Andygal> until I read the new bit! 20:02 < Verdancy> hee 20:02 * Andygal is spoilering herself on the Vorkosigan saga, but oh well. 20:03 * Andygal is one of those people that will reread books six times anyway. 20:03 < Verdancy> Okay hey Sky 20:03 < Sky> hey? 20:03 < Verdancy> um 20:03 < Verdancy> [words] 20:03 < Teceler> Beth actually getting to Correspondence 20:04 < Teceler> Mozee 20:04 -!- FacelessDude has joined #backstage 20:04 < Verdancy> Can we say that sometime in the past, Lizzie and Singer did their trade thing through Mozee's cloud? 20:04 < Verdancy> (Also Andygal) 20:04 < Teceler> Andygal 20:04 < Teceler> pfft 20:04 < Verdancy> and thread later maybe? 20:04 < Verdancy> because um 20:04 < Verdancy> there's really no way it /didn't/ happen yet 20:04 < Verdancy> /time/ 20:04 < Verdancy> ugh 20:04 < Teceler> why time 20:05 < FacelessDude> hi again 20:05 < Verdancy> and yet I have failed absolutely in actually having it happen 20:05 < FacelessDude> what is happening? 20:05 < Verdancy> Hi again, Faceless! 20:05 < Teceler> hello again Faceless 20:05 < Sky> sure 20:05 < Verdancy> okay 20:05 < Sky> I don't anticipate that going unpredictably 20:05 * Verdancy nods 20:05 < Verdancy> Andygal? 20:06 < Verdancy> Also um I /think/ we hashed out that the portal to Goal was going to use more energy than Mozee regenerates 20:06 < Verdancy> To avoid the "everyone just routes everything through Mozee's cloud" 20:07 < Andygal> Sure we can say that. 20:07 < Sky> yeah, that. MoZ would be slightly alarmed and hurry Lizzie and Singer through the trade. 20:07 < Verdancy> Okay 20:07 < Verdancy> yeah 20:07 < Andygal> and thread it soonish? 20:07 < Verdancy> I would like to actually thread it, if you're interested 20:07 < Verdancy> pfft ninja'd 20:07 < Verdancy> yeah 20:07 < Verdancy> I can actually do that now! 20:07 < Sky> I'd like to 20:07 < Verdancy> Because icons 20:08 < Verdancy> yay 20:08 * Andygal would need icons for Singer. 20:08 < Verdancy> oh 20:08 < Verdancy> well 20:08 < Andygal> I've been thinking about getting some anyway. 20:08 < Verdancy> ...you could do what I did in PM thread and just have one default one that you can replace 20:08 < Verdancy> or that 20:08 < Verdancy> ...it seems like that time of 20:08 < Verdancy> season? 20:08 < Verdancy> icon-ing season 20:08 < Andygal> One default works for now, I guess. 20:09 < Teceler> Sky, in that scenario what are Mozee's feelings about getting Beth to Correspondence? 20:09 < sigma> I'm imagining placeholdering with just color rectangles with emotions scrawled on them 20:09 < Verdancy> pfft Sigma 20:09 < Verdancy> Beth can hustle through the cloud really fast? 20:09 < Teceler> pft 20:09 * Andygal was thinking of black and whitish icons. 20:09 < Verdancy> And she'd want to give Mozee something anyway, as a thank you 20:10 < Verdancy> That's cool! 20:10 < Sky> mm... having talked to her more Mozee probably would be willing to open up a quick portal and bring her to Correspondence 20:10 < Teceler> like, getting her into the cloud wouldn't take very long presumably and then Mozee can close it, she doesn't need to go back 20:10 * Verdancy nods 20:10 < Verdancy> ... 20:11 < Teceler> ? 20:11 * Verdancy is not going to do the last-minute confession thing 20:11 < Verdancy> absolutely not 20:11 < Teceler> pfft 20:11 < Sky> hm? 20:11 <@Adelene> And what would you be confessing if you did? 20:11 < Verdancy> no, no, not me 20:11 < Verdancy> /Beth/ 20:11 < Verdancy> right before she leaves 20:12 <@Adelene> Point do of stand. ^^ 20:12 < Teceler> what would she be confessing if she did? 20:12 < Verdancy> yeah I don't even know 20:12 < Verdancy> ...nothing really 20:12 < Verdancy> Everyone she cares about knows she loves them 20:13 < Verdancy> well 20:13 < Verdancy> Everyone at home at least? 20:13 < Andygal> awwww 20:13 < Verdancy> maybe as a joke she says "It was *I* who put the dye in the shampoo!" 20:13 < Verdancy> but like 20:14 < Verdancy> she is the only one with opposable thumbs 20:14 < Verdancy> everyone already knew 20:14 < Teceler> pffft 20:14 < Andygal> XDXD 20:15 < Verdancy> ...She has a crush on Sophie Rodgers 20:15 < Verdancy> who she thinks is /older/ and ~sophisticated~ 20:15 < Verdancy> ...but everyone knows that already too 20:15 < Teceler> XD 20:18 < Andygal> made an account for Singer 20:18 < sigma> For sending people probably the new transportation option doesn't help. Unless you want to start human trials yourself. 20:19 < Andygal> Get the Eclipsites to use a beta fork. 20:19 < Teceler> Eclipsites: [are /busy/] 20:19 * PDV recovered his Fallen London account 20:19 < Andygal> ! 20:20 < PDV> it looks very different! 20:20 < Teceler> oh my actions refreshed 20:21 * Teceler sends Andygal a surprisebox 20:22 < sigma> Surprise! It's a box! 20:22 < Teceler> XD 20:22 < Teceler> the contents is a surprising part. it's kind of a Schroedinger box 20:23 < sigma> Does it contain a Maybe cat 20:23 < Teceler> no that would be a catbox 20:23 < Teceler> which may or may not contain a cat 20:23 < sigma> Does it contain a Maybe catbox 20:24 < Teceler> ...I have no idea if that is possible um check the wiki? XD 20:25 < sigma> Also: Lizzie says "um what". I'm picturing this as Lizzie trying to picture people carrying things "in" their hands. 20:25 <@Adelene> *giggle* 20:26 < sigma> Er, "you what" 20:26 < Teceler> pfft 20:26 < FacelessDude> sorry to interrupt. Amber isnt going to get worried, but should /i/ get worried with Rukhura getting blessings magic? 20:26 < Sky> ha. not the intended meaning! 20:27 < Sky> nah, Rukhura's not going to do anything nefarious with them 20:27 < Andygal> got some diamonds, and some dead rattus faber. 20:27 < Sky> it will be cool if they work for him now. 20:27 < Teceler> Adelene: pft 20:27 < Sky> (his blessings will be honesty, courage, and grace.) 20:27 < Teceler> er 20:27 < Teceler> *Andygal 20:27 < Andygal> ...I thought Rukhura was a girl? 20:28 < Sky> nope, never has been a girl. 20:28 < sigma> He was a boy at a time when forum boys were really rare 20:29 < sigma> And still is even if boys are somewhat less rare. 20:30 < Andygal> I'm confused about genders then, not that uncommon an occurence. 20:31 < Verdancy> Iiiii have to go foood 20:31 < Verdancy> *food 20:31 < FacelessDude> I should make a forum boy, possibly a eyecandy to balance things out 20:31 < Verdancy> Be back soonish hopefully 20:31 < Teceler> enjoy 20:31 < Verdancy> Thanks! 20:31 -!- Verdancy is now known as Verdancy|Away 20:31 < Andygal> have fun fooding. 20:31 < FacelessDude> Sky, I will going to answer that tomorrow, and give opportunity to more people to ask for blessings 20:33 < Teceler> going to away for a while 20:33 < Sky> okay. Only people who get their blessings drawn will be able to draw them in the future, right? If Rukhura pms Amber with a list of names he wants blessings drawn for, would any / how many of those get drawn? 20:34 -!- Teceler is now known as Teceler|Away 20:34 < FacelessDude> Amber is trusthworthy enough that is unlikely to say no + she doesnt think the blessings are that much big of a deal (since they are day to day life thingie) 20:35 < FacelessDude> so the only constrain is Amber having to go talk with the Elay prime and make the request without being too alarming/obvious that something weird is going, luckily the Elay prime is more traditionally elay than Sherlock and unlikely to think of it as weird 20:36 < FacelessDude> anyone that wants Amber to post their blessings in public will need to send them to me 20:37 < FacelessDude> Rukhura belongs to a particular elemental affiliation? 20:37 < Andygal> Rukhura is a selkie. 20:37 < Sky> he's hunti 20:38 < Sky> cool, can we just say the pm thing happened, then? (I don't feel like making up a bunch of names and random blessings for them, I just want other selkies to be able to draw blessings too) 20:38 < Andygal> FacelessDude: Since people from other countires don't do birth blessings, Amber can just say she wants it done for an immigrant she made friends with. 20:41 <@kappabeta> ...Nifl is toying with the idea of asking for a draw 20:41 <@kappabeta> and I am therefore trying to figure out her blessings 20:42 < FacelessDude> Nifl is the libby haut empress right? 20:42 <@kappabeta> yes 20:43 <@kappabeta> the main thing holding her back is that if there's something to it, the person drawing the blessings might... notice something was up 20:43 < FacelessDude> Andygal, my plan was similar, albeit the friends wouldn't necessarily be immigrants (I almost certain you can draw blessings anywhere in the planet, but only around the primes the habit took hold) 20:43 < FacelessDude> kappabeta, notice what exactly? 20:43 <@kappabeta> like e.g if she draws "loyalty synthesis power" 20:44 <@kappabeta> that seems like grounds to question whether Amber's mysterious immigrant friend is in fact some kind of empress or something 20:44 <@kappabeta> XD 20:44 < Andygal> Singer is thinking of asking. Annoyingly Anda is not particularly inclined, annoyingly as I already know her elemental affliation (very hunti, with a bit of sweela) 20:45 < FacelessDude> the idea is this Elay prime /really/ isnt a Sherlock and will just shrug even if she draws surprise three times to the same person xD 20:45 <@kappabeta> pfffffffffffffff 20:45 <@kappabeta> nifl doesn't know that, though 20:45 < Andygal> Ha. 20:46 < FacelessDude> I just going to get it out of my system: This Elay Prime is air-headed, there, I said it! 20:46 <@kappabeta> at least it isn't a rayne 20:46 < FacelessDude> what would a Rayne get? 20:46 <@kappabeta> i once worked out blessing sets for nearly all my templates and the rayne standard is ghost coin, ghost coin, persistence 20:46 < Andygal> Ha. 20:46 < Sky> wow 20:46 <@kappabeta> XD 20:46 < FacelessDude> chesus 20:47 <@kappabeta> hahahahaha 20:47 < FacelessDude> I almost feel sorry for Rayne, but then I remember: he is rayne 20:47 < Andygal> (Anda's blessing set would be resolve, resilance, and honesty) 20:47 < FacelessDude> (Sky, should I post Ru blessings publically or just say that you contacted me privately later?) 20:48 < Sky> It would be good if you posted his publically, he asked publically. 20:48 < Andygal> (Linsa would get courage and love, and I'm not sure about the third) 20:49 <@kappabeta> i have the idle urge to recite more template blessing lineups, is there anyone you guys are particularly curious about 20:49 < Andygal> Chainsaw? 20:50 <@kappabeta> talent creativity surprise 20:50 < FacelessDude> Kappabeta, hit me with them all 20:50 < FacelessDude> (also elemental affiliation if possible) 20:50 <@kappabeta> hahahaha 20:50 <@kappabeta> okay you asked for it 20:51 <@kappabeta> Hilary (Berynette): serenity talent kindness, torz with a heart of sweela 20:52 < FacelessDude> (I may or may not have been waiting this since reading the blessings threads) 20:52 <@kappabeta> I think all the other blessing sets for people that are actually in Welce have appeared onscreen 20:52 < FacelessDude> (hilary is like a old stove!) 20:52 <@kappabeta> oh but I know what hasn't appeared onscreen 20:52 < FacelessDude> Kingfishers? 20:53 <@kappabeta> no, I was looking up the thing, one sec 20:53 < FacelessDude> Libbies? 20:53 <@kappabeta> no. await. 20:53 < FacelessDude> ops, sorry 20:53 -!- sigma has quit 20:53 -!- sigma has joined #backstage 20:54 <@kappabeta> Isten's original set was resilience, ghost coin, resolve. His dad was dissatisfied with this and went out and found another person so he could get a "real" blessing and throw away the ghost coin. As far as anybody but King Hector knows, Isten's blessing set was resilience/resolve/luck 20:54 <@kappabeta> the ghost coin used to be an endurance. 20:55 < Sky> ooh, interesting. 20:55 < FacelessDude> does the fact it used to be an endurance means anything? 20:55 <@kappabeta> yes 20:56 <@kappabeta> iirc rayne's ghost coins used to be loyalties 20:56 < FacelessDude> and since it is a steven, it foretells the bad things of his boys life? 20:56 < FacelessDude> ah 20:56 < Andygal> does it mean he needs extra endurance? 20:56 <@kappabeta> when i give somebody a ghost coin that used to be something in particular it's sort of... a 'soft'/'hidden'/'broken' version of that blessing 20:57 <@kappabeta> anyway 20:57 < FacelessDude> (that is a cool detail, that I want to steal so badly) 20:57 < Andygal> awwww 20:57 < FacelessDude> xD 20:58 <@kappabeta> libby and chris are elannwyn. i'll translate the element names but the blessing sets are slightly different. chris is serenity/loyalty/stability, hunti with a crown of torz and a heart of coru. libby is loyalty/friendship/complexity, coru with a crown of sweela and a heart of torz. 20:58 < FacelessDude> it would be a bad idea to go for the obvious pun and have my psychocomp character get /only/ ghost coins? xD 20:58 <@kappabeta> :P 20:58 <@kappabeta> that would be silly. 20:58 <@kappabeta> let's see who else 20:58 <@kappabeta> banner: intelligence, endurance, strength; sweela 20:59 <@kappabeta> john blake: resilience, courage, determination: coru with a crown of torz and a heart of hunti 20:59 <@kappabeta> chainsaw you've already seen, he's sweela by the way 20:59 <@kappabeta> eights: kindness honesty endurance, torz with a heart of coru 20:59 <@kappabeta> darcy: joy charm resolve, elay 20:59 <@kappabeta> ike: intelligence talent innovation, sweela 20:59 <@kappabeta> val: courage honour determination, coru 20:59 <@kappabeta> kolya: resilience resilience hope, coru 20:59 <@kappabeta> lazarus: vision vision honesty, elay 21:00 <@kappabeta> (lazarus is elay with a heart of coru, that is) 21:00 <@kappabeta> matilda: intelligence intelligence intelligence, sweela with a heart of hunti 21:00 < FacelessDude> pfft 21:00 <@kappabeta> ga*el: love honour imagination, elay 21:00 < FacelessDude> xD 21:01 <@kappabeta> hall/asterion: strength resilience clarity, sweela 21:01 <@kappabeta> kingfisher: change intelligence talent, coru with a crown of sweela 21:01 <@kappabeta> pepper: loyalty serenity persistence, hunti with a crown of sweela 21:01 <@kappabeta> cordelia: flexibility resilience travel, coru 21:01 <@kappabeta> all my barrayarans are elannwyn of course 21:02 <@kappabeta> illyan: memory loyalty serenity, elay with a corwn of torz 21:02 <@kappabeta> miles: charm inspiration complexity, coru with a crown of sweela and a heart of hunti 21:02 <@kappabeta> mark: understanding focus complexity, coru with a heart of elay 21:03 <@kappabeta> third vorkosigan triplet: charm passion complexity, coru with a heart of sweela 21:03 <@kappabeta> aral: determination integrity passion, hunti with a heart of sweela 21:03 <@kappabeta> gregor: integrity diligence power, coru with a heart of hunti 21:03 <@kappabeta> piotr: determination loyalty courage, hunti with a heart of coru 21:04 <@kappabeta> and way down at the bottom of the list, relic of the days when it used to be sanely alphabetized: wolverine, endurance intelligence health, torz with a heart of sweela 21:04 <@kappabeta> XD 21:04 <@kappabeta> how many people have i driven out of chat 21:05 < Andygal> XD 21:05 <@kappabeta> i am sorry please come back i promise it's over XD 21:05 < Andygal> I was just waiting for you to finish, also distracted@ 21:05 < Andygal> (again) 21:05 < Sky> aw, it is? no esthfora, the keeper, home, then? 21:06 <@kappabeta> this list was composed a while ago! 21:06 <@kappabeta> i can try to figure those out now if you like 21:06 < Andygal> well the admin could have gone on it! 21:06 < Sky> it was a good list. i enjoyed it. 21:06 <@kappabeta> i bet the keeper's blessings are something hilarious 21:06 <@kappabeta> <3 <3 <3 i am glad you enjoyed it 21:06 < Andygal> I bet the keeper's blessings are hilarious. 21:07 < Andygal> and Esthfora gets three honesty. 21:07 <@kappabeta> pff 21:07 <@kappabeta> nahhhhh 21:07 <@kappabeta> lemme see 21:07 <@kappabeta> ...omg i have to give the keeper elannwyn blessings because one of the torz set is "permanence" 21:08 < Andygal> XD 21:08 <@kappabeta> keeper: contentment permanence time. she thinks figuring out her elemental affiliation would be tedious, I think she's coru. 21:09 -!- Teceler|Away is now known as Teceler 21:09 < FacelessDude> sorry, I was distracted by the life that is real, instead of the life in the computers (which is just a figment of our imagination) gotta backlog 21:09 <@kappabeta> <3 21:10 < Sky> mmm, figments. 21:10 < Andygal> I would have said torz for the keeper. 21:10 <@kappabeta> esthfora: honesty kindness joy, elay as hell but there might be some sweela and coru in there 21:10 <@kappabeta> the keeper finds torz unaesthetic 21:10 < FacelessDude> (I almost said "pigment of our imagination") 21:10 <@Sonata> I feel like Matilda should have some other things besides intelligence. imagination? integrity? 21:10 <@Sonata> not sure if integrity is a real blessing 21:11 <@Sonata> kindness? 21:11 < Andygal> Vision perhaps? 21:11 < FacelessDude> maybe power too? 21:11 <@kappabeta> integrity is an elannwyn blessing 21:11 < FacelessDude> albeit that blessing depends a lot 21:12 < FacelessDude> hey, what "heart of something" means? 21:12 <@kappabeta> it's sort of the inverse of a crown 21:13 <@kappabeta> they're both secondary elemental affiliations, but a crown is "people see you as this superficially", and a heart is "people who know you well can tell that this is there" 21:14 < FacelessDude> huh, and the not-crown/not-heart part is? 21:14 -!- sigma_ has joined #backstage 21:14 <@kappabeta> the not-crown not-heart part is just your plain old elemental affiliation, the element you're the most of. or did you mean something else? 21:15 < FacelessDude> it is just that I am confused about what is the difference between "regular" affiliation and the heart 21:15 <@kappabeta> hmm, it's like... 21:16 <@kappabeta> who's a good example *looks* 21:16 -!- sigma has quit 21:16 <@kappabeta> Okay, Sarelle Dochenza. 21:16 < FacelessDude> oooh, sherlock, they are the bestest 21:17 <@kappabeta> It is a running joke how infamously hunti she looks. Anyone who just passes her on the street or talks to her for two minutes will think she's definitely hunti. That's her crown 21:17 <@kappabeta> somebody who knows her for a little longer than that and pays more attention, but isn't *close* to her or anything, will realize that she is actually tremendously elay once you get past the first impression. that's her regular affiliation 21:18 <@kappabeta> but she also describes herself as having a streak of sweela; it's part of her elemental composition, but it's not as strong/central/obvious as her primary elay affiliation. that's a heart 21:18 <@kappabeta> does that make sense? 21:20 -!- Kel has joined #backstage 21:20 < Teceler> hello Kel! 21:21 < Kel> Hi! 21:21 < FacelessDude> I think, it is sort like the heart is a second crown, one that is less obvious or that only show when you guard is down. It makes me think of sorting hats tumblr 21:21 < Teceler> kappabeta: so, a heart is kind of-- a secondary affiliation that isn't obvious? 21:21 < Andygal> Hi Kel! 21:21 <@kappabeta> yeah, secondary affiliation that isn't obvious 21:21 < FacelessDude> The elemental affiliation would be a primary, and heart could be something like a secondary, and crown like a tertiary or something....? 21:22 < Teceler> is a crown a secondary affiliation-ish-thing two or is it just looking-like-this-thing? 21:22 <@kappabeta> it is not really anything like sortinghatchats 21:22 < FacelessDude> huh 21:22 <@kappabeta> Crown *means* looking-like-this-thing; it varies from person to person how much the looking like this thing is because you *are* a little like this thing and how much it's just a weird personal quirk that you come off that way 21:22 * Teceler nods. 21:23 <@kappabeta> like, Sary definitely has hunti aspects to her, no one can deny this 21:23 < Teceler> h 21:23 < Teceler> *ha 21:23 < Andygal> It's truuuuue. 21:23 <@kappabeta> but, say, Illyan's crown of torz? yeah Illyan is not really all that torz, it's just his image. 21:24 * Teceler nods. 21:26 < FacelessDude> I understand now, methinks 21:27 < FacelessDude> I can see why Gregor would have a heart of hunti, but what makes him a Coru? 21:27 -!- sigma_ has quit 21:27 <@kappabeta> gregor is... an interesting case 21:27 < Andygal> also why does keeper/admin find torz unasthetic? 21:28 <@kappabeta> idk she just does 21:28 < FacelessDude> *chinhands* tell me more 21:28 <@kappabeta> hehehe 21:28 <@kappabeta> okay so Gregor is like... 21:29 <@kappabeta> he starts out kind of not *wanting* to be Emperor? Like, kind of a lot not wanting to be Emperor? But there really isn't another option, like there *really isn't* 21:30 < Sky> Faceless, are the birth blessings drawn on the forum blessings that will apply to the rest of their lives from now on, or are they what they would have drawn if they had been done at birth? 21:30 -!- sigma has joined #backstage 21:30 < Sky> like, if someone would have drawn "travel" and they did a lot of traveling, but they're done now, would they still draw it or no 21:31 <@kappabeta> if he were *fully* hunti his reaction would be to put his head down and slog through it anyway, but that's not what he does - like, he does take a very "sit down and do the work" attitude, but he also *adapts*, he figures out how to *be* an Emperor and not just force himself to act like one 21:31 < FacelessDude> Sky, I was interpresting "from birth" 21:31 < FacelessDude> albeit I am not picky if the particular person prefers "from now on" instead 21:32 < FacelessDude> Kappabeta, cool. Also, send a poof to the poor guy 21:33 < Andygal> ...actually I am vaguely tempted to have Anda end up with "power", since I have this image of her eventually accidentally a country due to having all the goodies from the MWF. 21:34 < Kel> would a thing from birth include if offworld? 21:36 < FacelessDude> I don't see why not? assuming the magic can reach her? (not to mention that are all kinds of power, it is a good thing the blessings are ambiguous) we can even keep the whole thing to PM so people dont have to decide right away 21:37 < FacelessDude> Andygal, would "luck" also count, it is even more ambiguous, but works...? 21:37 < Andygal> Heeee...maybe? 21:41 < Sky> okay, so MoZ gets patience, power, and creativity. (torz) 21:41 < FacelessDude> also in theory, it is not like she /needs/ the power blessing to become powerful, methinks? if anything else fails we can do something like "it didnt work so hot between worlds" or even better, the Elay Prime wrote the blessings wrong, it is completely in character 21:42 < Sky> ha. results not guaranteed. 21:42 < Andygal> Well no, she doesn't need it, and I know what she would get based on just personality so. 21:44 < Sky> also, Kit sent a pm asking for hers. She gets synthesis, travel, and flexibility (coru). (I wanted her to get kindness but it didn't fit.) 21:45 < FacelessDude> I should work on the assumption that only the public request should be answered publically right? 21:46 < Sky> sounds like a good method 21:46 < FacelessDude> ok. I created this google doc [gdocs link redacted] for people to add their own requests/blessings as a reference 21:48 < Kel> ooh thing 21:48 < Kel> if a character who was a certain kind of person when born 21:49 < Kel> and abruptly but pretty much naturally became a completely different kind of person, without much at all in common with previous self 21:49 < Kel> a fair chunk later in life 21:49 < Kel> would there be still one blessing set? 21:49 <@kappabeta> may I attempt to colour-code the reference lists? 21:49 < FacelessDude> sure 21:49 < FacelessDude> as long it is for your convenience 21:50 <@kappabeta> man, no, i can't do it, there's no way to do a highlight colour apparently and all the nice yellows are too pale to read 21:50 < Andygal> I have produced a tentative blessing set for Singer 21:51 < Kel> (blessinger) 21:51 < Andygal> pfffft 21:51 < FacelessDude> kappabeta, I am sorry 21:52 <@kappabeta> hmm 21:52 <@kappabeta> i'm going to try another thing, i will be puttering around at the bottom of the document with a copy of the reference list 21:53 < Andygal> Also Linsa is torz with a heart of sweela I think. 21:54 < Kel> ... that is giving me artichoke imagery 21:54 < Andygal> ...what? 21:54 < Kel> like, you peel off most of an artichoke and then you get to the heart? 21:55 < Andygal> Pfffft 21:55 < Andygal> I didn't come up with the term, don't blame me. 21:55 < Kel> XD 21:55 < FacelessDude> xD 21:56 < FacelessDude> removing the torz peel to get to the delicious sweela interior, nom nom 21:57 < Kel> ... artichokes even sorta have crowns 21:57 < Andygal> Meta!Linsa: I am not a vegetable. 21:58 < FacelessDude> Linsa, you say that like is a bad thing! 21:59 < FacelessDude> I am certain that the vegetable people in the forum aren't impressed with you u.u 21:59 < Andygal> pfffffft 21:59 < Kel> fwiw, BE does not think Linsa is a food 21:59 < Andygal> XD 22:00 < Kel> if that helps at all 22:00 <@kappabeta> okay what do you guys think of my beautiful colour-coded chart 22:01 < Kel> kappabeta you are a fantastic firefly 22:01 < Kel> it is colored nicely 22:01 < Sky> very nice 22:01 < Andygal> It is coloured very nicely. 22:01 < FacelessDude> well done :D 22:01 <@kappabeta> :D 22:02 * Sonata as Ahrotahn offers Lizzie a reassuring clarification 22:02 < Teceler> pft 22:02 < Kel> heeeee 22:02 * Kel flails 22:03 < Andygal> hahahahaha 22:03 < Sky> this is an important distinction 22:03 < Kel> that is fantastic you are fantastic 22:03 < Kel> this is wonderful 22:04 < Kel> hand on I'm going to quotefile 22:04 < Kel> ... *hang 22:04 < Teceler> pft 22:04 < Andygal> pfffft timing on the typo. 22:07 < Andygal> Kel, I am amused that you quotefiled that with Janice's account as getting things embedded in the flesh of your hands is probably a thing that happens a lot in NV. 22:07 < Kel> XD 22:08 < Kel> well, Janice's "interacting with the forum" account 22:08 < Kel> but yeah 22:08 < Kel> hm. NV is a lot less hand horror than eye horror and internal horror 22:08 < Kel> usually 22:08 < Andygal> well there's the disembodied hand baby. 22:09 < Kel> she doesn't have anything embedded in her 22:09 <@Sonata> has Evenstar been on today? 22:09 <@kappabeta> Home: flexibility kindness change 22:09 <@kappabeta> torz 22:09 < Teceler> Sonata: no 22:10 < Teceler> someone remind me how the elemental affiliations work? 22:10 <@kappabeta> what do you mean, tec? 22:10 < Teceler> like 22:10 < Teceler> what they mean? 22:10 < FacelessDude> oh, I was going to ask for Home, but got distracted 22:10 <@kappabeta> oh 22:10 <@kappabeta> i will summarize elements 22:11 <@kappabeta> roughly speaking: elay, air/soul, abstract, distractible, impractical, visionary, intuitive 22:12 <@kappabeta> hunti, wood/bone, inflexible, stubborn, there is some aesthetic here that does not revolve purely around rigidity but it's harder to articulate 22:13 <@kappabeta> sweela, fire/mind, artistic, intellectual, emotional, social 22:14 <@kappabeta> coru, water/blood, subtle, adaptable, mercurial, inconstant, passive 22:16 <@kappabeta> torz, earth/flesh, patient, grounded, ...I'm tempted to just say "Hufflepuff"? Like, if you take Hufflepuff and subtract some of the friendship/loyalty aspects 22:16 <@kappabeta> Not every single person hits every single note on their element 22:17 <@kappabeta> like, Sary Dochenza is an *unusual* flavour of elay 22:17 <@kappabeta> but she's still elay 22:17 * Teceler nods. 22:18 < Kel> (~these are the magic elements~) 22:19 < Teceler> (pft) 22:19 < FacelessDude> anyway, I have to go semi-comatose, have vivid halucinations and then forget the whole thing for a few hours, good night everyone thanks for the help o/ 22:19 <@kappabeta> goodnight faceless 22:19 < Andygal> goodnight Faceless. 22:19 < Kel> good night 22:19 < Sky> night 22:19 < Teceler> good night faceless 22:21 -!- FacelessDude has quit 22:26 <@kappabeta> ...darn, I just saw writeitdown's latest post 22:26 <@kappabeta> It is, in fact, actually possible to draw blessings just by writing the words down 22:27 <@kappabeta> but I guess writeitdown might not know that 22:32 <@Sonata> torz sort of sounds like kapha 22:33 < Kel> ? 22:34 <@Sonata> http://www.chopra.com/kapha-dosha 22:35 < Kel> huh 22:35 < Kel> thank you for explanation 22:36 <@kappabeta> from a quick glance, it sounds sort of vaguely similar but not all that much more similar than Hufflepuff 22:36 <@Sonata> yeah 22:36 < Andygal> sounds like kahpa is as much hunti as torz? 22:37 <@Sonata> maybe 22:37 <@Sonata> I feel like hunti is more rigidity and torz/kapha are more inertia? 22:38 <@Sonata> kapha can be somewhat yielding on the surface but the flesh covers iron bones 22:38 <@Sonata> kapha is stone and clay, slow and steady, ponderous. 22:39 <@kappabeta> hmm, *durability*, that's the concept I was looking for when I was trying to find the non-rigidigy-based aspects of the hunti aesthetic 22:39 <@kappabeta> like, torz has a durability-like aspect too but it's different 22:40 < Andygal> Hmm? 22:40 -!- Verdancy|Away is now known as Verdancy 22:40 < Kel> Hi! 22:40 < Verdancy> Hi I exist again 22:40 < Verdancy> Hi Kel! 22:40 < Teceler> wb Verdancy! 22:40 < Verdancy> Thanks! 22:41 <@kappabeta> torz is more... landscape-scale staying power? and hunti is more object-scale resistance to damage? 22:41 < Sky> hunti resist damage, torz absorb it, maybe 22:41 <@kappabeta> yeah 22:41 <@kappabeta> things happen to mountains, but they generally go right on being mountains 22:42 <@kappabeta> hunti has that sense of... it will resist and resist and resist and then if you apply too much pressure, snap 22:43 <@kappabeta> with torz it's more, well yes you have definitely altered the shape of that cliff but the mountain is not particularly bothered about it 22:43 < Kel> hee 22:43 < Kel> I mean, mountains definitely /can/ stop being mountains? 22:43 <@kappabeta> Yes 22:43 <@kappabeta> but like 22:43 < Andygal> but it takes a long long time! 22:43 <@kappabeta> yes 22:43 <@kappabeta> time and/or effort 22:43 < Teceler> or a /lot/ of power 22:44 <@kappabeta> yeah 22:44 < Andygal> You aren't going to get rid of a mountain without high explosives. 22:44 <@kappabeta> and the, like... process is different 22:44 < Verdancy> pffffffft 22:44 < Kel> (high explosives such as the earth) 22:44 < Teceler> (pfft) 22:44 < Andygal> Kel: I meant in a short time scale. 22:45 <@Sonata> that's definitely what i meant re: rigidity and inertia 22:45 < Kel> no like 22:45 < Kel> the thing that makes/destroys mountains sometimes is the earth 22:45 < Kel> like. the inside of the earth 22:45 < Kel> really quickly 22:46 <@Sonata> (@: "torz is more... landscape-scale staying power? and hunti is more 22:46 <@Sonata> object-scale resistance to damage?" "hunti resist damage, torz absorb it, maybe") 22:48 < sigma> I hope Lizzie can be less horrified now that Ahrotahn has clarified 22:48 < Verdancy> pffffft 22:48 <@Sonata> I assume not 22:49 < Kel> hm 22:49 < Kel> trying to decide whether to cloaked 22:49 <@Sonata> if anything 'oh right, that's a plausible hypothesis around here' 22:49 < Verdancy> pffffffffffffffft 22:49 < Verdancy> hee 22:49 < Kel> (<3) 22:50 < Verdancy> (<3) 22:50 < Andygal> <3 22:52 < Verdancy> sadly, Lizzie is in fact accustomed to the idea of carrying things with one's hands 22:52 < Verdancy> when one is moving them from one's inventory to somewhere else 22:52 < Verdancy> or, you know 22:52 < Verdancy> eatig 22:52 < Verdancy> *eating 22:53 < Andygal> or raking and stuff. 22:53 < Verdancy> making potions 22:54 < sigma> So this clarification doesn't help much. 22:54 < Kel> hm 22:54 < Kel> I really want cloaked to clarify 22:54 < Andygal> is this going to be horrifying? 22:54 < Kel> I don't know yet 22:55 < Kel> pfff 22:55 < Verdancy> <Sonata> if anything 'oh right, that's a plausible hypothesis around here' 22:55 < Kel> "sometimes people hold things in /other people's/ hands?" 22:55 < Verdancy> that is in fact Lizzie's reaction 22:55 < Verdancy> what 22:56 < Kel> apparently this was one of the baseball (or football?) team member's problems 22:56 < Verdancy> I am really confused are you talking about like the creepy hangman's candles or what 22:56 < Kel> what? 22:56 < Andygal> Night Vale. 22:56 < Kel> ??? 22:56 < Verdancy> Hand of Glory 22:56 < Kel> ohh 22:56 < Kel> no 22:56 < Kel> holding things with other people's hands 22:56 < Kel> like. you grab something with their hands 22:56 < Verdancy> like 22:56 < Verdancy> possession? 22:56 < Kel> I think! 22:57 < Kel> maybe? 22:57 < Kel> ... I need to go find a ref brb 22:57 < Verdancy> okay 22:57 < Verdancy> alright but seriously why does anyone still live in Night Vale 22:57 < Teceler> no one is allowed to leave! 22:57 < Verdancy> uuuuugh 22:57 < Kel> it is technically not illegal 22:57 < Andygal> also Desert Bluffs is worse. 22:57 < Kel> and a lot o fthe rest of Eventide is awul in different ways 22:58 < Kel> *of the 22:58 < Verdancy> there exist places that are not Desert Bluffs or Night Vale 22:58 < Verdancy> oh 22:58 < Verdancy> welp 22:58 < Kel> such as Pine Cliffs. which is inhabited by ghosts 22:59 < sigma> Spooky 22:59 < Verdancy> 2 spooky 22:59 -!- SonaGreen has joined #backstage 22:59 < Verdancy> ? 22:59 < Verdancy> Hi? 22:59 < SonaGreen> I don't know what just happened either 23:00 < sigma> Are they the sort of ghosts that hold things with other people's hands 23:00 < Kel> what was the last thing you saw? 23:00 < Verdancy> What was the last thing you saw? 23:00 < Verdancy> pfft 23:00 < Kel> pff 23:00 < Kel> ... THATSTANDSFOR 23:00 < Kel> darn 23:00 < SonaGreen> last I saw was my question about Square of Lofty Words 23:00 -!- Sonata has quit 23:00 -!- SonaGreen is now known as Sonata 23:00 < Kel> that did not show up 23:00 < Kel> I think 23:00 < Sonata> <Kel> ... I need to go find a ref brb 23:00 < Sonata> <Verdancy> okay 23:00 < Sonata> <Sonata> FL question: if I want to use the Square of Lofty Words card to send 23:00 < Sonata> someone a mystery package, does this cost me 10 echoes? 23:01 < Teceler> its either ten or 100 I don't actually remember which 23:01 < Teceler> <Kel> ... I need to go find a ref brb 23:01 < Teceler> <Verdancy> okay 23:01 < Teceler> <Verdancy> alright but seriously why does anyone still live in Night Vale 23:01 < Teceler> <Teceler> no one is allowed to leave! 23:01 < Teceler> <Verdancy> uuuuugh 23:01 < Teceler> <Kel> it is technically not illegal 23:01 < Teceler> <Andygal> also Desert Bluffs is worse. 23:01 < Teceler> <Kel> and a lot o fthe rest of Eventide is awul in different ways 23:01 < Teceler> <Kel> *of the 23:01 < Teceler> <Verdancy> there exist places that are not Desert Bluffs or Night Vale 23:01 < Teceler> <Verdancy> oh 23:01 < Teceler> <Verdancy> welp 23:01 < Teceler> <Kel> such as Pine Cliffs. which is inhabited by ghosts 23:01 < Teceler> <sigma> Spooky 23:01 < Teceler> <Verdancy> 2 spooky 23:01 < Teceler> * SonaGreen has joined #backstage 23:01 <@kappabeta> i will go to bed now. goodnight friends 23:01 < Kel> goodnight 23:01 < Teceler> sleep well kappa 23:01 < Verdancy> Good night, Kappa. 23:02 < Kel> [warmfuzz] 23:02 < Sonata> so I should probably not use that card until I'm rich enough that 10 echoes does not sound like a huge amount of money 23:02 < sigma> Good night kappa! 23:02 < Sonata> goodnight kappa 23:02 < Kel> found it! 23:02 < Teceler> ...probably yes 23:02 < Sky> night 23:02 -!- kappabeta has left #backstage 23:02 < Teceler> do you want my next surprisebox Sonata? 23:02 < Sonata> sure 23:02 < Sonata> i'm Mira Venefica 23:02 < Kel> " Additionally, sophomore quarterback Henry Lexington, Jessica’s younger brother, struggled in his first season as a starter. By year end, he showed some improvement as coach Nazr al-Mujaheed worked with Lexington on holding the ball with his own hands, and throwing the ball with his own arms – not other people’s as he had been doing early in the season. " 23:02 < Sonata> I forget who people are, it feels like everyone already knows each other 23:03 < Kel> in which? 23:03 < Sonata> in FL 23:03 < Kel> ah 23:03 < sigma> This football difficulty is difficult for me to picture. 23:04 < Kel> yeah 23:04 < Kel> I can only /assume/ he was posessing people? 23:04 < Kel> or somethign? 23:07 < Verdancy> if there is a less pleasant interpretation of that than possessing people I bet it's the right one 23:07 < Verdancy> otherwise yes 23:07 < Teceler> pft 23:08 < Kel> XD 23:08 < Kel> well, he could be removing them to use? 23:08 < Kel> but that would not be good on a tema 23:08 < Kel> *team 23:08 < Teceler> that sounds impratical yeah 23:09 < Sonata> well, if he's removing his /teammates'/ bodyparts then sure 23:10 < Sonata> if the opponents', that's probably a foul 23:10 < Teceler> pft 23:10 < Kel> well 23:10 < Sonata> if the fans'... that might be legal? 23:10 * Verdancy awards medal of horrifying to Sonata 23:10 < Teceler> possessing the opponents is probably also a foul 23:10 < Kel> apparently using psychic powers to emotionally attack your opponents is /not/ a foul 23:10 < Kel> so 23:10 < Andygal> Possessing his teammates? 23:10 < Andygal> Or random fans? 23:12 < sigma> It sounds like an Esthfora kind of problem, like oops I forgot? which one is me?? 23:12 < Verdancy> omg 23:12 < Kel> pff 23:14 < Teceler> pft 23:14 < Kel> oh gosh 23:14 < Kel> I'm imagining like. a 6th grader 23:14 < Kel> just. accidentally grabbing the ball with other people's hands 23:15 < Sonata> adhorrible 23:16 < Kel> and then being confused about what people want 23:16 < Kel> oh wait sophomore 23:16 * Kel tries to remember 23:16 < Kel> (XD) 23:16 < sigma> Adhorrible indeed 23:16 < Kel> nvm he is 15 or 16, rather than ~10 23:16 < Kel> but still 23:16 < Kel> adhorrible 23:16 < Kel> that is a great word 23:17 < Andygal> XD 23:17 < Andygal> It is. 23:17 -!- sigma has quit 23:17 < Andygal> Possibly he was doing that in 6th grade. 23:17 -!- sigma has joined #backstage 23:18 < Kel> last thing seen 23:18 < Kel> ? 23:21 < sigma> <Andygal> It is. 23:21 < Kel> * has quit 23:21 < Kel> <Andygal> Possibly he was doing that in 6th grade. 23:21 < Kel> * sigma has joined 23:22 < sigma> Then we can be proud that after all these years he's beginning to get it right. 23:23 < Kel> (rrg. reminded of thing re: 6th graders/young kids. who are /people/) 23:23 < Kel> but yeah! 23:23 < Andygal> So proud. 23:23 < Teceler> [hugs?] 23:23 < Kel> he is kinda confused but he is working on it 23:23 < Kel> [hugs] 23:23 < Andygal> (bugs?) 23:23 * Verdancy offers hugs 23:23 < Kel> (NO) 23:23 < Kel> [hugs] 23:24 < Verdancy> *hugs* 23:24 < Verdancy> (unfortunate typo) 23:24 < Kel> ah 23:24 < Kel> (not actually mad at) 23:24 < Kel> (hugs?) 23:24 < Verdancy> (well I assume typo) 23:25 < Andygal> (oops hugs) 23:25 < Andygal> (stupid treacherous fingers) 23:25 < Verdancy> hee 23:25 < Kel> (why humans?) 23:25 < Verdancy> pfft 23:27 < Kel> (Teacher was going around checking for dresscode (assigned duty by principal). Housekid noticed wearing sweater not in dresscode and took it off but not in time. Teacher confiscated sweater and said to come get it later. Teacher /left early/ without giving back. She thinks she'll get it back later and isn't a big deal. But nobody else seems to think it is messed up that he /took/ it.) 23:28 < Teceler> ...what 23:28 < Verdancy> ugh 23:28 < Teceler> like if they're going to leave early /leave/ it 23:28 < Kel> yeah 23:28 < Sonata> eargh 23:32 < Kel> I offered to go try to argue it back for her but she said not to so I didn't. but that is /not/ how you treat a person. 23:32 < Verdancy> yep 23:32 < Kel> anyway now I must sleep 23:32 < Teceler> yeah 23:32 < Teceler> like people are varying levels of attached to things but 23:32 < Teceler> like 23:32 < Andygal> Night Kel. 23:32 < Verdancy> Good night, Kel. 23:32 < Teceler> sleep well 23:35 -!- Kel is now known as Kelsleep 23:39 < sigma> Oh hey, this time Korulen and Saasnil get to freak out about something other than "you can't co-cast a reversal." 23:40 < Verdancy> ? 23:41 < Verdancy> oh 23:41 < Verdancy> found the thing 23:42 < sigma> (Though they get to freak out about that too, because always) 23:42 < Verdancy> yyyup 23:46 < Andygal> which thing? 23:46 < Verdancy> http://alicornutopia.dreamwidth.org/13884.html?thread=9120316&style=site#cmt9120316 23:46 < Verdancy> newish thing 23:53 < sigma> We still haven't seen much in the way of "No, you're not obviously safe to let out of the circle." I think there was one but I don't remember which. 23:53 < sigma> I'm imagining Jinx in the circle. 23:54 < Teceler> pfffft 23:54 < Teceler> suggest that to Evenstar? 23:54 < Verdancy> pfft 23:54 < Verdancy> Um 23:54 < Verdancy> Not!Lioncourt was in the circle 23:54 -!- Kelsleep has quit 23:54 < Teceler> yeah Not!Lioncourt was the one 23:55 < Teceler> I think 23:55 < Verdancy> She had to have a mental block before Keo deemed her safe to let out 23:55 < Verdancy> Because otherwise she was somewhat prone to ripping things out of people's minds, etc 23:56 < Andygal> the admin was also not allowed out of cirle, although that was partially because she did not care. 23:56 < Verdancy> pffy 23:56 < Verdancy> *pfft 23:56 < Verdancy> yeah 23:56 < Teceler> "although that was partially because she did not care." yeah XD 23:57 < sigma> Jinx too might require a block of some sort. 23:58 < sigma> No explosions. No vandalism. Absolutely no murder parties. 23:59 < Andygal> hahahaha --- Day changed Thu Aug 27 2015 00:00 < Teceler> pft 00:06 < sigma> Really you probably shouldn't be keeping her at the children's school 00:06 < Verdancy> I think with the admin one they evacuated the whole wing 00:07 < Andygal> although that was just to stop people from bothering her. 00:07 < Teceler> pft 00:07 < Andygal> because they were offended about their religions being proven wrong. 00:08 < sigma> Heh. 00:10 -!- MTC has joined #backstage 00:12 < sigma> Welcome MTC 00:12 < sigma> If you're here to lurk, I hope you have a nice lurk. 00:13 < Andygal> MTC always lurks. 00:36 -!- Sky has quit 00:51 -!- linkhyrule5 has joined #backstage 00:54 < linkhyrule5> I return somewhat triumphant! 00:54 < linkhyrule5> Also I have an aura-cast for Aisilian's smile. 00:54 < Verdancy> Link! 00:54 < Verdancy> You exist! 00:54 < Teceler> --link! 00:54 < linkhyrule5> Indeed! 00:55 < Teceler> we missed you 00:55 < Verdancy> Welcome! 00:55 * Verdancy will admit to nothing 00:55 < Andygal> HI!!!!!! 00:55 < Teceler> does Firewall have a way to tell who is designated-as-guest-courtesy-of-being-in-the-base? 00:55 < linkhyrule5> haha 00:55 < linkhyrule5> hello! 00:55 < Teceler> I feel like they would want that 00:56 < linkhyrule5> Not easily. 00:56 < linkhyrule5> The easy ways to do that also count intruders as "guests" 00:56 < Teceler> hm 00:56 < Teceler> yeah, that's why they want a list XD 00:57 < linkhyrule5> You _can_ do a "this is an 'invited person', concept thereof", which is sort of Esthfora-ish but on the scale of the organization as a whole 00:57 < linkhyrule5> but that's, uh 00:57 < linkhyrule5> hard 00:57 < linkhyrule5> and Eclipse is still pretty new 00:57 < linkhyrule5> so 00:57 < Teceler> (I'm thinking there's a separate 'allowed guests' category that has people manually added) 00:57 < Teceler> ha 00:57 < Teceler> but, like 00:58 < Andygal> there are now nine wicks for the glowfic page on TvTropes. 00:58 < Teceler> when we were talking about the wards on the base earlier? 00:58 < Verdancy> !!! 00:58 < Teceler> ! 00:58 < Verdancy> I didn't even know there /was/ a glowfic page 00:58 < Andygal> There is! 00:58 < linkhyrule5> Also I have a thing to show anyone interested 00:58 < Andygal> http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Roleplay/Glowfic 00:58 < linkhyrule5> on how Aisilian's smile "feels" 00:58 < Andygal> OK? 00:58 < Teceler> linkhyrule5: sure 00:58 < linkhyrule5> it's not quite right but it's the closest I've seen so far 00:59 < Andygal> is this the Peaceful Smile of Doom? 00:59 < linkhyrule5> Yes. 00:59 < linkhyrule5> In this case it's the Cutesy Genki Girl of Doom 00:59 < Andygal> pffft 00:59 < linkhyrule5> but it's the same sort of... contrast, innocence 00:59 < linkhyrule5> one sec, finding the right time 01:01 < linkhyrule5> Right 01:01 < linkhyrule5> http://gogoanime.tv/kill-la-kill-episode-11 01:02 < linkhyrule5> Unfortunately, they've broken it up in a way that's quite annoying for people coming in to see just this bit 01:02 < linkhyrule5> how inconsiderately non-precognitive of them 01:02 < linkhyrule5> :P 01:02 < linkhyrule5> 14:45-16:10 is one bit 01:02 < linkhyrule5> and then there's another minute or three at 17:20 01:03 < Teceler> oh 01:03 < Teceler> I don't think I have spoons for this at the moment sorry link 01:03 < linkhyrule5> ? 01:03 < Teceler> I should be asleep 01:03 < linkhyrule5> Ah, okay 01:03 < linkhyrule5> heh 01:03 < linkhyrule5> fair enough 01:03 < linkhyrule5> I'll show you again tomorrow 01:05 < Verdancy> it is Zzz time 01:05 < Teceler> anyway, like, auto-adding anyone in the base to very basic things and, like, having a classification level they can put intended guests on seems like a sensible scheme? 01:05 < Andygal> Night Verdancy 01:05 < Teceler> sleep well Verdancy 01:05 < Verdancy> Good night Andygal! 01:05 < Teceler> words 01:05 < Verdancy> Good night, Teceler! 01:05 < Verdancy> Good night, Moon. 01:06 < Teceler> but in that case they want a list of who is the first pffft 01:06 < Verdancy> (hee) 01:06 < Teceler> who is in the first catagory 01:06 < Verdancy> Anyway. Good night everyone. See you in the morning. 01:06 < Teceler> *category 01:06 < linkhyrule5> Teceler - like, basically, you can have a checklist of people who are allowed 01:06 < linkhyrule5> and point it to an actual list 01:06 -!- Verdancy is now known as VerdanZzz 01:06 * Teceler nods. 01:06 < linkhyrule5> that you can add to 01:06 < linkhyrule5> but on the other hand that's also going to be a vulnerability 01:06 < Teceler> hm? 01:06 < linkhyrule5> You can put a second spell on the list to say "only people in the organization can change the list" tho 01:06 < Teceler> heh 01:06 < Teceler> yeah 01:07 < Teceler> I think they're actually using classification levels 01:07 < Teceler> and those would already be warded with relevant permissions :P 01:07 < Teceler> but, like 01:08 < Teceler> what I'm asking is if they can get a list of people who are in the base but not on that list. that updates 01:08 * Teceler is not very coherent when semi-awake 01:08 < Andygal> do you need to be shooed to bed? 01:09 * Teceler will go sleep when she has this question answered 01:09 < Teceler> but thanks 01:09 < Teceler> (I have a now-rather-backdated thread stalled by not knowing the answer this question) 01:10 < linkhyrule5> Teceler - Mmmmmmmm.... 01:10 < linkhyrule5> The thing is that names aren't really easy to access 01:10 < linkhyrule5> 'cause they're not really object-level important parts of a person 01:10 < Teceler> hm 01:10 * Teceler nods. 01:10 < linkhyrule5> so like, it's easy to _follow_ a name, it's a pointer 01:10 < linkhyrule5> a bit harder to grab the name of something 01:10 < Teceler> like, it doesn't /have/ to be names 01:10 < linkhyrule5> I mean, if "location and body shape" will do 01:11 < Teceler> 'location' would work to a degree 01:11 < linkhyrule5> and it can handle cyberspace too 01:11 < linkhyrule5> for infomorphs 01:11 < Teceler> although that gets confusing for 01:11 < Teceler> pfft 01:11 < Teceler> okay 01:11 < linkhyrule5> ninja'd? :P 01:11 < Teceler> yeah 01:11 < linkhyrule5> "Currently attacking port 22 on server A-BX8" is a valid "location" 01:11 < linkhyrule5> for example 01:11 < Teceler> ha 01:11 < linkhyrule5> or well 01:11 < Teceler> the question is 'is Firewall going to notice a weird property of the OTC' 01:11 < linkhyrule5> actually that wouldn't show up 01:11 < Teceler> and the answer is apparently 'yes' 01:11 < Teceler> hm? 01:11 < linkhyrule5> attacking wouldn't show up on a map of "people in the building" 01:12 < Teceler> ah 01:12 < Teceler> well 01:12 < linkhyrule5> but an infomorph living on a simulspace that happens to be served in the building 01:12 < Teceler> if they were attacking form somewhere else in it 01:12 < linkhyrule5> that too 01:12 < Teceler> linkhyrule5: infomorphs doesn't have to live in simulspace, also 01:12 < Teceler> but that is tangental 01:13 < linkhyrule5> well, yeah 01:13 < linkhyrule5> but an infomorph living in a body 01:13 < linkhyrule5> I would call that a sleeve 01:13 < linkhyrule5> :P 01:13 < Teceler> ... 01:13 < Teceler> no I mean 01:13 < Teceler> like ghostriding is a thing also but that's not what I meant? 01:13 < Teceler> there's a distinction between 'regular computational space' and 'simulspace' 01:14 < Teceler> words 01:14 < Teceler> am tired 01:14 < Andygal> Infomorphs don't have to have something that looks like physical reality. 01:14 < linkhyrule5> No, I get it 01:14 < linkhyrule5> You don't have to run the simulspace 01:14 < Teceler> okay 01:14 < Teceler> I should go sleep\ 01:14 < Teceler> will you be on tommorrow? 01:15 < linkhyrule5> If they do there will also be an adendum that says "standing next to the Giant's Table, currently being eaten by the Giant" 01:15 < Andygal> like most originally biological people that sleeve as infomorphs live in simulspace environments but AGIS often don't bother. 01:15 < linkhyrule5> or whatever 01:15 < linkhyrule5> And I should be 01:15 < Andygal> like pffffffft 01:15 < Teceler> pft 01:15 < Andygal> *link 01:15 < linkhyrule5> hahahaha 01:15 < linkhyrule5> :D 01:15 < Teceler> pfft 01:17 < linkhyrule5> Oh, UFL is updating, for those who haven't noticed :P 01:17 < linkhyrule5> we should make an index page 01:18 < linkhyrule5> Andygal - oh, since you're the remaining nonbed person, did you look at the thing? 01:18 < Teceler> UFL = ? 01:19 < Teceler> right sleep 01:19 < linkhyrule5> Unearthly Sixfold Light 01:19 < linkhyrule5> sorry I got the acrnoym wrong 01:19 < Teceler> ah 01:19 < Teceler> ...did you move to a new thread? 01:20 < Teceler> post 01:20 < Teceler> thing 01:20 < Teceler> ahem sleep 01:20 < Teceler> good night all 01:20 < Teceler> (I will look in the morning) 01:20 < linkhyrule5> and yes 01:20 < linkhyrule5> new threads 01:20 < linkhyrule5> many new threads 01:20 < linkhyrule5> many many many new threads 01:20 < linkhyrule5> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 01:21 < Teceler> oh dear 01:21 < Teceler> XD 01:21 -!- Teceler is now known as Teceler|Asleep 01:22 < sigma> Then that does sound index-worthy. 01:22 < Andygal> I looked at the thing! 01:25 < linkhyrule5> and what did you think 01:25 < linkhyrule5> of the adorable girl? 01:26 < Andygal> Adorable. Also creepy. 01:26 < Andygal> creepydorable. 01:28 < Andygal> there are now 10 wicks for Glowfic on TV Tropes. 01:29 < Andygal> (why was there not an entry for it on the Alternate Self trope?) 01:29 < linkhyrule5> ... 01:29 < linkhyrule5> pfffff 01:29 < Andygal> (now there is) 01:29 < linkhyrule5> of all the tropes 01:29 < linkhyrule5> but yeah 01:29 < linkhyrule5> do you sort of see what I mean about Aisilian's smile? 01:29 < linkhyrule5> Like, it's not in his body language or his actual smile 01:29 < linkhyrule5> there's jsut sort of 01:29 < linkhyrule5> well 01:30 < linkhyrule5> the synesthetic equivalent of ominous music playing 01:30 < linkhyrule5> when he does it 01:30 < Andygal> Heeeee. 01:30 < linkhyrule5> The BGM is just _screaming_. 01:30 < linkhyrule5> In fear. 01:30 < linkhyrule5> The BGM is screaming in fear. 01:30 < linkhyrule5> I was going to end that sentence a different way but this works way too wel 01:30 < linkhyrule5> :P 01:35 < Andygal> Aisilian continues to be a somewhat unsettling eldritch god man. 01:40 < Sonata> Just slightly. 01:42 < linkhyrule5> Just a tad :P 01:44 < Andygal> (at least he's benevolent) 01:48 < linkhyrule5> Yes :) 01:48 < linkhyrule5> A benevolent eldritch god man that makes the non-existent BGM scream. 01:49 < Andygal> (cuddles the BGM) 01:53 < linkhyrule5> hahha 01:53 < linkhyrule5> BGM: *is whimpering* 01:53 < Andygal> .awwwwww 01:54 -!- PDV is now known as PDVanished 01:57 < linkhyrule5> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUlVLC3mGwM 01:57 < linkhyrule5> ^ random music rec 01:57 < Andygal> Hmm? 02:01 < linkhyrule5> it's a random music rec 02:01 < linkhyrule5> A wild Music Rec appeared! 02:01 < Andygal> Ha. 02:01 < linkhyrule5> *dun dun dun dun-dun dun dun* 02:07 -!- PDVanished is now known as PDV
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Post by Mother Starlight on Aug 28, 2015 16:38:14 GMT
03:33 -!- PDV has quit 05:10 -!- linkhyrule5 has quit 05:46 -!- linkhyrule5 has joined #backstage 06:10 -!- Andygal has quit 06:31 -!- linkhyrule5 has quit 06:51 -!- FacelessWork has joined #backstage 06:51 < FacelessWork> o/ 06:55 -!- kappabeta has joined #backstage 06:55 -!- mode/#backstage [+o kappabeta] by ChanServ 07:36 -!- Kelsewhere has joined #backstage 07:44 -!- kappabeta has quit 08:20 -!- kappabeta has joined #backstage 08:20 -!- mode/#backstage [+o kappabeta] by ChanServ 08:24 < FacelessWork> hi again kappa 08:32 <@kappabeta> hi faceless 08:33 <@kappabeta> by the way, it's perfectly possible in Quinn to draw blessings by only writing the words on pieces of paper 08:33 <@kappabeta> but it's plausible that someone might not know that, I guess 08:40 < FacelessWork> huh, I had that detail cached in my mind, not sure where it come from 08:40 < FacelessWork> I was going to reread the Quinn threads, but then... other fanfiction happened ».» 08:42 < FacelessWork> huh, should I re-write that post? 08:54 <@kappabeta> you can rewrite the post, or have her correct herself later after she asks somebody, or whatever you like 08:57 < FacelessWork> ok 08:58 < FacelessWork> do you have the blessing symbols? I assumed there was a link to them in the wiki, but it isnt there 09:02 -!- Kelsewhere has quit 09:04 -!- Kelsewhere has joined #backstage 09:04 < FacelessWork> wait, found it 10:06 -!- Teceler|Asleep is now known as Teceler 10:10 -!- Kelsewhere has quit 10:36 < sigma> Good morning 10:36 < Teceler> good morning! 10:36 < FacelessWork> morning 11:06 -!- Kelsewhere has joined #backstage 11:37 < Sonata> Good morning 11:38 < Teceler> good morning Sonata 11:40 < FacelessWork> o/ 11:53 < sigma> So kappabeta I hear good things about some sort of sex demon game? 11:53 <@kappabeta> hahaha 11:54 <@kappabeta> yes 11:54 <@kappabeta> it's adorable 11:55 < FacelessWork> how a sex demon game is adorable? o.o 11:55 <@kappabeta> the sex demons are really cute! 11:57 < sigma> And it has good consent 11:57 * Sonata is intrigued 11:58 * FacelessWork is curious 12:00 < sigma> I understand from tumblr posts that there's a "stop" button to stop all intimate activity at any time, and the sex demons are all really enthusiastic about respecting it? 12:01 <@kappabeta> yep 12:02 <@kappabeta> there is also an option to just not even try to have sex with any of them in the first place 12:03 < FacelessWork> what they do instead of having sex them? 12:03 <@kappabeta> they clean your house, cook your meals, and play video games with you 12:03 < FacelessWork> *then 12:03 < FacelessWork> and I imagine they are cute about it 12:04 < sigma> Oh my goodness how cute. 12:04 <@kappabeta> one of them waters your garden and one of them reads your dad's legal reference books 12:04 < FacelessWork> (now I want something similar from daevinity, darn it) 12:04 < FacelessWork> legal reference books... why? 12:05 < sigma> And you said something about glowfic with them. Which leads me to picture them descending on the multiverse's unsuspecting needful like some sort of sex Ouendan. 12:05 <@kappabeta> ouendan? 12:06 <@kappabeta> the one who reads the legal reference books is apparently a huge nerd 12:06 <@kappabeta> and his response to being temporarily stranded in some mortal's house is to make tea and read books 12:07 < FacelessWork> that sounds like a reasonable response to be stranded in a mortal house 12:07 < Teceler> XD 12:11 < Sonata> is there a link to this thing somewhere? 12:14 < sigma> Looks like http://sugarscript.itch.io/cute-demon-crashers 12:14 < FacelessWork> hown sfw is that link? 12:16 < sigma> Cartoon shirtless dude level approx.? And lots of pink decor. 12:16 < FacelessWork> ok 12:17 < sigma> Ouendan, or their slightly toned down American counterparts Elite Beat Agents, are a fictional team who 12:17 < FacelessWork> can you get the boy demons to make out? 12:18 < sigma> Find people who are having some problem like "I need to pass this test" or "I want to ask that boy out", and then 12:19 < sigma> Stand around singing an inspiring pop song until you've done it. 12:20 < Teceler> pffft 12:20 <@kappabeta> pfffffffffffffff 12:20 < FacelessWork> xD 12:21 < FacelessWork> how effective that method is? 12:21 < sigma> That depends how good you are at the rhythm game for the Nintendo DS! 12:22 < sigma> Canonically, extremely effective. 12:22 < Teceler> brb 12:24 < FacelessWork> well, singing and dancing worked wonders for the kids on Glee. 12:25 < Teceler> bk 12:26 < FacelessWork> wibles 12:26 -!- Sky has joined #backstage 12:26 < sigma> Example! https://youtu.be/p3QjSMXRYnQ 12:33 < sigma> For the YouTubeless, in this video Phoenix Wright (Ace Attorney) has a tricky case. Things are going pretty poorly for him... Until the Elite Beat Agents arrive. 12:34 < sigma> Their rendition of Queen's "Don't Stop Me Now" inspires him to make the key deductions of the case. 12:36 < sigma> In the middle of the courtroom, of course 12:36 < Teceler> pft 13:08 -!- PDV has joined #backstage 13:10 < sigma> Hullo PDV 13:10 < PDV> `\o 13:10 < Teceler> hello PDV 13:12 < FacelessWork> hi PDV o/ 13:13 < FacelessWork> have you asked for birth blessings? 13:15 < FacelessWork> sonata you are Ahrotahn? 13:16 < Sonata> yep 13:16 < Sonata> oh right, I have to figure out what her birth blessings /are/ 13:17 < FacelessWork> that, but also I changed an earlier post because according to Kappa, you can just plain write the blessing names on any language and it will work 13:22 < Sonata> ah ok. *retcon* 13:23 < FacelessWork> you are going to change your post? 13:30 < Sonata> already did 13:31 <@kappabeta> writeitdown should get an avatar, I think. it is hard to remember who someone is when they don't have an avatar 13:31 < Sonata> oh wait the other post, *goes to fix* 13:32 < Sonata> or no the other one's still fine. 13:32 < Sonata> what does Synthesis mean? 13:33 <@Adelene> combining things, usually in novel ways. 13:33 < Sonata> how does that differ from Innovation? 13:33 < Sonata> also how do Vision and Intelligence differ? 13:34 <@kappabeta> my brain: "vision is elay and intelligence is sweela, that's how" 13:34 <@kappabeta> that is probably unhelpful 13:35 < Sonata> not entirely unhelpful actually 13:35 <@Adelene> Synthesis and Innovation differ at least in that the former is combining two or more existing things and the latter can and often does involve inventing new things entirely. 13:35 <@Adelene> That's not the only way they differ though. 13:36 <@kappabeta> vision has connotations of "seeing/noticing things", "literal sight", "visionary"; intelligence lives in a somewhat different part of conceptspace 13:36 <@Adelene> Like - a synthesis of joy and courage is not really innovative, it's a different thing from that. 13:37 < Sky> synthesis is "balancing different forces and making them work together" 13:37 < Sonata> alright 13:37 <@Adelene> *nod* 13:37 <@kappabeta> (it's totally a thing that blessings can mean multiple different things, like the ones that have literal/metaphorical interpretations like strength and vision and flexibility) 13:37 <@Adelene> Synthesis's novelty is in a 'more than the sum of its parts' sense. 13:37 < Sonata> (so far Ahrotahn has Surprise and Travel, trying to pick a third) 13:38 < FacelessWork> Sorry, I was distracted 13:38 < FacelessWork> let me backlog 13:38 <@kappabeta> oh hey, somebody should fish up my descriptions of the personality-clusters of the elements and put them in the google doc. i think this person should be me 13:38 <@kappabeta> *does that* 13:38 < FacelessWork> kappabeta: yeah, I will try get an avatar with a book or something, I dont like the bland face too 13:39 < Sonata> is there a blessing that means "collect 'em all"? 13:39 < Teceler> pfffft 13:39 <@kappabeta> in what sense, sonata? 13:39 < Sonata> like, video game completionism 13:40 < Sonata> the sense that you don't just /not do things/ 13:40 < FacelessWork> something like determination? 13:40 < FacelessWork> huh 13:40 < Sonata> mmm, not exactly 13:41 < Sonata> like, at a buffet this person takes a little bit of everything rather than a full serving of a couple favorites 13:41 < FacelessWork> for curiosity sake? 13:41 < FacelessWork> there should be an curiosity blessing u.u 13:41 < Sonata> maybe, and to have experienced it 13:42 < Sonata> it's a thing to do, so one does it. that's what one does with things. 13:42 <@kappabeta> that sounds coru to me. I think the closest one is "change" 13:42 <@kappabeta> in the elannwyn set there's "novelty" 13:42 < Sonata> mmm 13:43 < FacelessWork> I was thinking coru too, but along the lines of "surprise" or "travel" in a very abstract since 13:43 <@kappabeta> yeah 13:44 < FacelessWork> Persistence also fits the more "must collect them ALL" game aspect 13:44 < FacelessWork> xD 13:45 < Sonata> I think I'm gonna go with change, standing for novelty 13:45 < FacelessWork> huh, should we have a Elannwyn character? 13:45 < Sonata> completionism is somewhat less important than to keep moving, keep seeing new things 13:45 < Sonata> so Ahrotahn gets Surprise, Travel, Change 13:45 < FacelessWork> Sonata, that fits 13:46 <@kappabeta> I might have Nifl experiment and discover that it's possible to just invent blessings and have them work, as long as any blessings work for you at all. 13:47 * Sonata wonders how this system got started 13:47 <@kappabeta> I forget 13:49 < FacelessWork> I like to think that there is a reason for the current set to exist the way it is? maybe the new blessings are less reliable somehow? at any event /please/ add curiosity to the list 13:49 < FacelessWork> xD 13:50 <@kappabeta> well, the thing is that it's *really hard* to *tell for sure* that the new blessings are working the same way as the old ones 13:50 -!- Andygal has joined #backstage 13:50 <@kappabeta> so people tend to stick with the traditional set because it has the history behind it 13:51 < Andygal> ?? 13:51 < Andygal> coming in to the middle of a conversation, annoying. 13:51 < FacelessWork> andygal, blessings 13:51 <@kappabeta> but that's the reason why elannwy has a slightly different set, is that they used to be the same people as welce but they lost contact ages ago and their languages and blessing sets moved in slightly different directions 13:51 < Teceler> hello Andygal! 13:51 < FacelessWork> we are talking about elemental blessings 13:51 < Andygal> Ah. 13:51 < FacelessWork> also hi 13:53 < sigma> Do your arbitrary blessings still need elemental allusions for most of them? 13:53 < Andygal> Anyway, hi guys. 13:53 < sigma> Hi Andygal! 13:55 < FacelessWork> Is there are reason for the absence of "bad" blessings? 13:55 < FacelessWork> a reason* 13:55 < FacelessWork> urgh 13:56 < sigma> Obviously those would be cursings. 13:56 < sigma> :P 13:56 <@kappabeta> Nobody *wants* bad blessings. 13:56 < Andygal> Yes. 13:57 < FacelessWork> well, they have predictive value 13:57 < sigma> It's easy enough for them to disappear over time, though, since 13:57 < sigma> Partial bowls work, so 13:57 < FacelessWork> albeit we could hand wave that since they predict bad things 13:57 <@kappabeta> also, yeah, the blessings still have to kind of cluster into elemental shapes, plus extraordinaries 13:57 < FacelessWork> people will try to fight the bad omens 13:58 < FacelessWork> so they only draw "cursings" that cant be stopped? 13:58 < sigma> For a mixed set, you can draw from just the "happy bowl" of happy-sounding blessings. 13:58 < FacelessWork> like, you can only draw a surprise if /really/ cant see it coming. 13:58 < FacelessWork> sigma, lol 13:59 < sigma> If people keep drawing from the "happy bowl", then over time that's just the new set. 13:59 < Andygal> "travel" and "change" are pretty neutral. 14:00 < Sonata> "fertility" can sometimes be unwanted 14:00 <@kappabeta> yeah 14:00 < FacelessWork> hum... 14:00 < FacelessWork> the way I understannd 14:00 < FacelessWork> incomplete sets suffer from not being able to provide all results? 14:00 < Andygal> If you are doomed to a lot of bad things you are going to get blessings like "endurance". 14:01 <@kappabeta> hahaha 14:01 <@kappabeta> unless you won't endure them very well 14:01 < Andygal> and luck could mean "I hope you feel lucky, punk"? 14:01 < FacelessWork> haha 14:02 < FacelessWork> what happens if the person is about to die then and there is only Luck and Health in the bowl? 14:02 < FacelessWork> xD 14:02 <@kappabeta> depends what they're about to die of :P 14:03 < Andygal> Even the Bell gets Grace if it's the last thing left in the bowl. 14:03 < FacelessWork> death by health! the silent killer! 14:03 < sigma> "Who put Doom in here? Why do we even have a Doom?" 14:03 < Andygal> XD 14:03 < FacelessWork> hauhauauhha 14:04 <@kappabeta> :P 14:04 < FacelessWork> I am tempted to add homestuck aspects ».» 14:04 < Andygal> pfffffft 14:04 < sigma> (Death by Health! The Positive Energy Plane!) 14:04 < FacelessWork> better yet, homestuck classes: You got a "muse" what that means? 14:04 < FacelessWork> sigma pfftt!!! 14:04 < Andygal> sigma: pfffffthahaha 14:05 -!- Kelsewhere is now known as Kel 14:05 < Andygal> Hi Kel! 14:05 < Kel> Hi! 14:05 < sigma> Hi Kel! We're talking Elemental Blessings system hypotheticals with Faceless and Kappa. 14:06 < Kel> "muse" blessing = there will be a dedicated AI to help you 14:06 < Andygal> XD 14:06 < Andygal> Or "you will find somebody that inspires your creativity" 14:06 <@Adelene> Kel, godsfire. 14:07 < Kel> oh 14:07 < sigma> "You will ponder the meaning of this blessing" 14:07 < Andygal> Ha. 14:08 < sigma> Muse on it, if you will. 14:08 < Kel> XD 14:10 < sigma> Kappa, if the elements are wrong? Say, if they're MTG pie instead? 14:10 < FacelessWork> MTG pie? 14:11 < FacelessWork> ah, magic 14:11 < FacelessWork> I wonder if someone has made a pie based on MTG... 14:11 < Teceler> bk 14:11 < Teceler> Kel! 14:11 < Kel> wb! 14:11 <@kappabeta> what do you mean by "if the elements are wrong"? 14:11 < Kel> Hi! 14:13 < FacelessWork> I assume that she meant, that the elements dont match the correct associations 14:13 < FacelessWork> like in MTG mind is associated with water, I think? 14:13 <@kappabeta> but like... 14:13 < FacelessWork> well not water, but blue, and then blue is associated with water 14:13 <@kappabeta> how are you imagining someone accomplishes the task of getting the elements wrong 14:13 <@kappabeta> in practice 14:13 <@kappabeta> what does that amount to 14:13 <@kappabeta> also brb 14:14 < FacelessWork> you got the elements wrong: It is oxygen, hydrogen, carbon, helium, silicon... gold, silver, barium... krypton, xenon... 14:14 < Teceler> pffft 14:15 * kappabeta kappaplops 14:15 < Kel> brb 14:16 < sigma> The blessings have to kind of cluster into elemental shapes. What if they cluster around different centers, or the wrong number of centers 14:16 <@Adelene> I think the question is along the lines of 'what if someone has strong associations of an elementalish type that aren't compatable with the blessings' elements' associations?' 14:17 < sigma> Or do I understand clustering wrong 14:18 <@kappabeta> i think you might understand clustering wrong, sigma 14:18 <@kappabeta> it's like... 14:19 <@kappabeta> "if someone from Welce looked at your blessing set, would they be able to readily identify which ones belonged to which of the five elements and which ones belonged to none of them, or would they be confused?" 14:19 <@kappabeta> if they would be confused then the ones they would be confused about might not work. 14:19 < FacelessWork> ah, the whole elemental identification is part of the "blessing fortunetelling" set? 14:20 <@kappabeta> the blessings and the elements are part of the same system, yes 14:20 < sigma> What if there's a blessing that means like "durability" and it's entirely ambiguous if it means it Hunti or Torz. For example. 14:21 <@kappabeta> That sounds like an example of something that would confuse a person from Welce, yes. 14:22 < sigma> So then, when you draw that one, it means nothing in particular about the future? 14:22 <@kappabeta> yes. 14:22 < sigma> Cool, thanks. 14:22 <@kappabeta> I'm going off memory here and might not be perfectly accurate to what Alicorn and I originally decided, but i'm pretty sure I have the gist. 14:23 < FacelessWork> huh, how likely is for nifl to hire some people to abuse this system by creating more blessings? 14:23 <@kappabeta> hahahahahahahahaha 14:23 < Kel> bk 14:23 < FacelessWork> Curiosity should belong where? I really want that blessing ».» 14:23 < Teceler> wb 14:24 < Kel> thanks! it was phone, but good phone 14:24 < Andygal> Curiosity is probably sweela? 14:24 < Teceler> I think sweela or elay, yeah 14:24 < Kel> cetagandan blessing set: blessing 1 - Miles Vorkosigan ? 14:24 < Teceler> pfffft 14:24 <@kappabeta> curiosity seems to me like it *could* fit sweela, elay, or coru. Which probably means it is Confusing. 14:25 < Kel> blessing 2 - Mistake somewhere in this artwork 14:25 < Sonata> (imagine a haut drawing that as a birth-blessing) 14:25 < Kel> aw 14:25 < Teceler> pfffft 14:25 < Kel> :( 14:25 <@kappabeta> pfffffff 14:25 < Andygal> pfffffft 14:25 < Teceler> the first one 14:25 < Teceler> image 14:25 < Teceler> *imagine 14:25 < Kel> XD 14:25 < Kel> oooh!~ 14:25 <@kappabeta> pffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff 14:26 < Kel> Spoiler thing 14:26 < Kel> #spoilers 14:26 < Sonata> spoiler for what? 14:26 < Kel> for diplomatic immunity 14:28 < Kel> blessing 3 - going through this wormhole will kill you 14:28 <@kappabeta> omg XD 14:28 < sigma> I wonder if a happy bowl originates for doing birth blessings. 14:28 < Andygal> blesssing 4 - Somebody wants to assassinate you. 14:29 < Kel> well that's pretty nonspecifi 14:29 < Kel> *nonspecific 14:29 < Kel> maybe /imminent/ assassination? 14:29 < Teceler> pfff 14:29 < Teceler> *pfft 14:30 < sigma> Just take out anything that would make the baby cry. 14:31 < FacelessWork> xD 14:36 < FacelessWork> "likes to cuddle" sounds like a confusing blessing? 14:36 < Kel> "Contact" ? 14:36 <@kappabeta> things like "likes to cuddle" and "imminent assassination" really don't seem... blessingy 14:36 < Kel> they would be useful information 14:36 < Kel> but yeah 14:37 <@Adelene> Kel, godsfire? 14:37 < Kel> trying to find notes 14:38 <@Adelene> ok 14:38 < FacelessWork> kappabeta, I was thinking "a blessing that sounds very joker-ish" xD 14:38 < Kel> ghost coins are the most /literally/ jokerish? I think? 14:39 < Andygal> what the ghost coin was originally matters. 14:40 < Andygal> so not really 14:40 < Kel> it does? 14:40 < Kel> huh. ok 14:40 <@kappabeta> it doesn't *necessarily* matter 14:40 < Teceler> it /can/ 14:40 < Teceler> is the thing I think? 14:40 <@kappabeta> when I give someone a ghost coin that was X, I'm definitely thinking about what it used to be, but ghost coins can also be the system's way of saying "hey! a person with no birth blessings is trying to draw something! get lost!" 14:40 < Teceler> XD 14:41 < Kel> heeee 14:41 < Andygal> XD 14:41 < FacelessWork> pfft 14:42 < FacelessWork> this makes me think of steven carllsberg when it was believed he was just a jerk 14:42 < Kel> ? 14:42 < FacelessWork> ah, Kel, what are steve's blessings? 14:42 < Andygal> Kappabeta you are a delight. 14:42 < Kel> I don't know rn 14:42 <@kappabeta> <3 14:42 < Kel> trying to other stuff 14:43 * Andygal goes to become clean, biab 14:45 < FacelessWork> kel, sorry didnt want to interrupt 14:45 < Kel> np 14:46 < Teceler> <Teceler> [hugs for Steve] 14:46 < Teceler> (because I said that in another channel for some reason) 14:49 < Kel> brb 14:53 < sigma> Can you make a blessings bowl with all onomatopoeias, like glint and glomp? 14:53 < Teceler> pfft 14:55 < sigma> Here is the sound your future would make, if it were silent and you imagined the sound for it. 14:55 < Kel> bk 14:55 < Teceler> wb 14:56 < Kel> blessing: aaaaaaaah 14:56 < FacelessWork> sigma ... 14:56 < Teceler> (this is the way the world ends) 14:56 < FacelessWork> that isnt my reaction, that is a suggestion for a blessing 14:56 < FacelessWork> just "..." 14:56 < FacelessWork> xD 14:56 < Teceler> XD 14:56 < sigma> A moment of silence 14:57 < sigma> Taken as a blessing. 14:57 < Kel> ooh blessing: "The world/universe is devoid of sentient life", must be included in blessing bowls before really risky things 14:57 < sigma> What element is that 14:57 < Kel> VOID 14:57 < Kel> VOID IS THE ELEMENT 14:57 < Kel> hm 14:57 < Teceler> XD 14:58 < FacelessWork> Kel, the sad thing is: that would be actually quite useful to some forum members 14:58 <@kappabeta> haha 14:58 < Kel> yeah 14:58 < Kel> it is a useful thing 14:58 * FacelessWork glances milesward 14:58 <@kappabeta> ...that brings up an interesting point though 14:59 < Kel> draw for "fertility" before sex, draw for "universe end" before interdimensional shenanigans 14:59 <@kappabeta> I think the blessings don't always give you predictions that will definitely come true even after accounting for your choices in response to the blessings 14:59 < Kel> what point? 14:59 <@kappabeta> like. if you draw for "fertility" before sex, and you get "fertility" and don't have sex, I don't think that necessarily implies you will find that blessing expressed somehow in the rest of your life 14:59 < Kel> hm. yeah 14:59 < Teceler> Firewall: [complains about the fact that this doesn't allow for prediction of 'universe eaten by exsurgent virus' 15:00 < Kel> is the virus sentient? 15:00 < Teceler> [wavy hands] 15:00 < Kel> XD 15:00 < Teceler> exsurgents can be, though 15:00 < FacelessWork> Tec, that should be the "you are extremely fucked" blessing? 15:00 < Teceler> XD 15:00 < Kel> blessing: VERY LARGER SCALE INFECTION OH NO 15:00 < Kel> *LARGE 15:00 < Teceler> blessing: 'this is the way the world ends' 15:01 < Kel> huh. A lot of these are /terrible/ birth blessings, but you'd want to know anyway I think? 15:01 < Kel> Like if someone's birth blessing is END OF ALL SENTIENT LIFE, that is a problem? 15:01 < Teceler> pffft 15:02 < Teceler> yeah 15:03 < sigma> But is it a self fulfilling problem 15:03 < Teceler> yeah 15:03 < Teceler> can be 15:05 < FacelessWork> Hi, my blessings are Patience, PAIN-AND-AGONY-TO-MY-ENEMIES and Beauty 15:05 < Teceler> pfffffft 15:05 < Kel> XD 15:05 < Teceler> yeah that probably gets reframed 15:05 < Teceler> like 15:05 < Kel> "Victory" ? 15:05 < Teceler> 'victory' 15:05 < Teceler> pffft 15:05 < Kel> XD 15:05 < Kel> "Can I get those on a necklace please?" 15:05 < Kel> "or will there be a problem" 15:05 < Teceler> Necklacemaker: [meeps] 15:06 < Teceler> Necklacemaker: [rapidly makes necklace] 15:07 < Kel> PPB: "OK cool thanks." [pays][was not in a hurry] 15:07 < Teceler> pft 15:07 < FacelessWork> xD 15:07 < Teceler> Necklacemaker: [flees the country] 15:07 < Teceler> :P 15:09 < sigma> Hi, my blessings are Lettuce, Milk, and Bread. Because my dad mixed the bowl up with his shopping list. 15:09 < Teceler> pffffft 15:09 < FacelessWork> HAUHAUHAHUAUA 15:09 < Kel> XD 15:09 < Kel> oh no 15:09 < Kel> Those are all Torz blessings? 15:09 < Kel> :P 15:09 < Teceler> brb 15:10 < FacelessWork> no, lettuce is obviously Hunti 15:10 -!- MTC has quit 15:10 < FacelessWork> because vegetables are under the hunti domain 15:10 -!- PDV is now known as PDVanished 15:12 <@Adelene> pffffft http://into-the-weeds.tumblr.com/post/127729746794 15:13 < Kel> hee 15:14 < FacelessWork> the link! 15:14 < FacelessWork> this reminds me, kappabeta, important question: how cuddly Steve Rogers and Bucky Barnes are going to be? 15:14 < sigma> Why does Steve know who Voldemort is 15:15 < Andygal> sigma: I think those would be the "My dad was an elay" blessings. Along with having the wrong number. 15:15 < sigma> Pretty much yeah. 15:16 < Kel> birth blessing: lost penny that someone accidentally put in the bowl 5 years ago 15:16 < FacelessWork> pfft 15:16 < Andygal> "You will be forever finding money in people 15:16 < FacelessWork> aka: abraham lincolm profile blessing 15:17 < Andygal> 's pockets while doing laundry. 15:17 < Kel> but the money will be too small to use 15:17 < sigma> Oh, that's much less alarming than just the first line. 15:17 < Kel> XD 15:17 < Andygal> I hit the enter key at the exact wrong time. 15:18 < Kel> "wanna see a magic trick?" 15:18 < Andygal> because apparently the universe hates me. 15:18 <@Adelene> Kel. Godsfire. Godsfire, Kel. ^^ 15:19 -!- Kel is now known as Keltag 15:24 < sigma> Perhaps the universe is like YouTube, and merely likes to laugh at minor misfortunes. 15:26 < sigma> Speaking of Hunti vegetables, who will perform Lady Death's vegetable wedding? 15:26 < Teceler> bk 15:26 < Keltag> wb! 15:27 -!- VerdanZzz has quit 15:27 < sigma> I could have Eskay do it, on the grounds that nobody can tell him he isn't a Pope. 15:27 < Teceler> pft 15:29 < Keltag> godsfire tag! 15:29 < Teceler> yay tag! 15:30 < sigma> Queen Hot is, as she has volunteered on the forum, a Queen. 15:31 < Keltag> yay! 15:31 < Keltag> (None of my characters are /remotely/ qualified) 15:32 <@Adelene> \o/ godsfire! 15:32 <@Adelene> http://liighty.tumblr.com/post/127666659767/i-love-it-when-fanfic-authors-do-the-thing 15:32 -!- linkhyrule5 has joined #backstage 15:32 < Andygal> (None of mine are qualified either.) 15:32 < Andygal> Hi Link! 15:33 < Teceler> hello link! 15:33 < Keltag> Hi! 15:33 < Keltag> (eeee) 15:33 <@kappabeta> hi Link! <3 15:33 < linkhyrule5> harro! 15:33 < Keltag> (omg) 15:34 < linkhyrule5> It's been awhile :P 15:34 < Keltag> Link!~ 15:34 < Keltag> Welcome back! 15:34 < Teceler> do not make me go look up the timestamps from last night :P 15:34 < linkhyrule5> hahah 15:34 < linkhyrule5> oh, speaking of which 15:34 < sigma> Arm tentacles are sort of like angel wings 15:34 < linkhyrule5> I have a thing 15:34 < linkhyrule5> an aura-cast sort of thing 15:34 < linkhyrule5> general sense of how Aisilian's smile feels 15:35 < linkhyrule5> finally found an existing example in animation 15:35 < Andygal> sigma ??? 15:35 < linkhyrule5> <linkhyrule5> http://gogoanime.tv/kill-la-kill-episode-11 15:35 < linkhyrule5> <linkhyrule5> Unfortunately, they've broken it up in a way that's quite annoying for people coming in to see just this bit 15:35 < linkhyrule5> <linkhyrule5> how inconsiderately non-precognitive of them 15:35 < linkhyrule5> <linkhyrule5> :P 15:35 < linkhyrule5> <linkhyrule5> 14:45-16:10 is one bit 15:35 < linkhyrule5> <linkhyrule5> and then there's another minute or three at 17 15:35 < linkhyrule5> for interested parties 15:35 * Teceler is /trying/ to write a /tag/ :P 15:35 < Andygal> saw it last night. 15:36 < sigma> Andygal, Lady Death asked for "Anyone who is a god, Angel or any similar kind of holy being". 15:36 < Andygal> Meta!Anda thinks you are weird. 15:36 < linkhyrule5> Teceler - pfff 15:36 < linkhyrule5> sigma - ME is wondering why gods are holy :P 15:36 < linkhyrule5> Andygal - indeed you did :P 15:44 -!- Keltag is now known as Kel 15:44 < Kel> BE is very very confused by this but is deciding to just ignore LD 15:44 < Kel> because confusing and apparently not relevant 15:44 < Teceler> XD 15:48 <@kappabeta> link, the most relevant smile seemed to come at around 22 minutes in that video, I wonder if there's something weird going on with the timestamps 15:49 < Teceler> meanwhile, it won't load at all for me 15:49 < linkhyrule5> kappabeta - ah, less smile and more general... feel of things 15:49 < linkhyrule5> it's more the whole "I am an adorable and peaceful girl!" 15:49 < linkhyrule5> "OMINOUS OMINOUS MUSIC" 15:49 < linkhyrule5> contrast 15:49 < Teceler> bgm: [screams] 15:49 <@kappabeta> the most relevant feel *also* seemed to come at around 22 minutes 15:49 <@kappabeta> "It was I who killed your father~ :)))))))))" 15:50 < linkhyrule5> hahaha 15:50 < linkhyrule5> Teceler - yes :P 15:50 < linkhyrule5> kappabeta - yeah, but that's more. Bog standard creepy? 15:50 < linkhyrule5> It's really before she starts talking, the moment where she doesn't _look_ scary at all 15:50 < linkhyrule5> nothing she says or does is actually, like, weird or creepy, her body language is normal and adorable 15:51 < sigma> I don't know how to get a Garden god to perform a marriage ceremony 15:51 <@kappabeta> idk, then this example did not come through for me 15:51 < linkhyrule5> but the meta-elements, the music and the set-up, are creating this tension of "THIS GIRL IS DANGEROUS" 15:51 < linkhyrule5> even though _she's_ not doing anything 15:51 < linkhyrule5> it's that sort of feel 15:52 <@kappabeta> I think the instructiveness of the example suffers from the fact that I have no idea what's going on 15:52 < linkhyrule5> hahah 15:52 < linkhyrule5> I mean, it's really just the few seconds in the first bit, I think 15:52 < linkhyrule5> where she shows up 15:52 <@kappabeta> and the background music wasn't coming through for me at all 15:52 < linkhyrule5> really? 15:52 < linkhyrule5> I'm kind of surprised there 15:52 < linkhyrule5> oh well 15:52 <@kappabeta> like I might have been able to hear it but I did not notice it at all and was not affected by its mood 15:52 < linkhyrule5> ah 15:52 < linkhyrule5> yeah that would do it 15:53 < linkhyrule5> as I put it last night: "Aisilian is smiling peacefully and innocently at you. 15:53 < linkhyrule5> Meanwhile, the BGM is screaming in terror." 15:53 <@kappabeta> hahahahahaha 15:53 < Teceler> XD 15:53 < Kel> sigma: Garden gosd do /not/ perform marriage ceremonies 15:54 < Kel> that would be /weird/ 15:54 < Teceler> pft 15:55 < sigma> Not even if you read patterns to them? I'm told they like that. 15:55 < Kel> pff 15:55 < Kel> they do not care 15:55 < Andygal> Aisilan breaks the universe and makes it cry. 15:55 < Kel> humans are already /done/ 15:56 < Teceler> Kel: tag 15:56 < Kel> eeee tag 15:57 < linkhyrule5> Aisilian seems to have a habit of doing that to universes :P 15:58 < linkhyrule5> not intentionally, but 15:58 < Teceler> Eclipse: [spray bottle] 15:58 < Andygal> OHFUCK SO MUCH FIRE 15:58 < Kel> pff 15:58 < Kel> OH GODS FIRE 15:58 < Kel> (sorry) 15:58 < linkhyrule5> ... 15:58 * linkhyrule5 groans 15:58 < Kel> WHY SO MUCH FIRE AAAH 15:58 < Kel> :D 15:59 < Andygal> Kel: Tags. 15:59 * linkhyrule5 whaps Kel with the Rolled Up Newspaper of Bad Pun-ishment 15:59 < linkhyrule5> :P 15:59 < Kel> :D 15:59 < Andygal> :D 15:59 < Teceler> Andygal: I /just/ tagged be patient XD 15:59 < Kel> It has been less than a day. 15:59 < Teceler> unless you mean a different tag I guess 16:00 < Kel> such as the Lantern tag I have owed for two weeks and a day 16:00 < Teceler> [hug] 16:00 < Kel> [hug] 16:01 < Kel> like, I need to actually do that at some point though 16:01 < Kel> but not right now 16:01 < Andygal> lanterntag is not currently holding up plot so. 16:01 < Kel> Lanterntag is holding up lantern 16:01 < Kel> who is the most fun to be 16:02 < Teceler> [hug] 16:02 < Andygal> (hug) 16:02 <@kappabeta> Fun is important. 16:03 < linkhyrule5> Teceler - try this 16:03 < linkhyrule5> http://www.crunchyroll.com/kill-la-kill/episode-11-im-not-your-cute-woman-644321 16:03 < linkhyrule5> alas, it has ads 16:03 < linkhyrule5> but 16:03 < linkhyrule5> and pay attention to the music, it is important :P 16:05 < Kel> ooh aspen thing I can say 16:05 <@kappabeta> I tried t osee if the music came through any better on this version. it did not 16:06 < Kel> (EXCESSIVE NUMBER OF PLANT NAMES) 16:06 < linkhyrule5> *shrugs* 16:06 < Teceler> [hugs] 16:06 < linkhyrule5> Yeah, I dunno 16:06 < linkhyrule5> for me it was pretty... "drumroll and scary music" 16:07 < FacelessWork> gotta go, talk to you people later o/ 16:07 < Teceler> luck 16:08 -!- FacelessWork has quit 16:08 < Andygal> Later Faceless. 16:11 <@kappabeta> I think part of it is that the music was getting drowned out by ambient noise. (The dialogue wasn't, but that happens sometimes.) 16:13 < linkhyrule5> I mean, tbf 16:13 < linkhyrule5> the dialogue is in Japanese 16:13 < linkhyrule5> it is very easy to get an illusion of voices when reading subs 16:13 <@kappabeta> hmm? 16:13 < linkhyrule5> if there's even a hint of voices in the audio 16:14 < linkhyrule5> I mean, I have actual memories of Japanese VAs reading English subs aloud 16:14 < linkhyrule5> they never happened, but that's what I actually remember 16:14 <@kappabeta> oh 16:14 <@kappabeta> that is not a thing my brain does 16:14 < linkhyrule5> until I really look at the memories and go "wait what no that's not what happened" 16:14 < linkhyrule5> heh 16:14 <@kappabeta> I mean, remembering the audio in the wrong language, specifically 16:15 <@kappabeta> but also I don't *think* I was hearing imaginary dialogue 16:15 <@kappabeta> it's just that the dialogue was clearer than the BGM 16:16 <@kappabeta> which isn't all that surprising, can you imagine a show where when there's ambient noise you hear the BGM better than the dialogue? XDDDDD 16:17 < linkhyrule5> hahha 16:17 < linkhyrule5> I've had _scenes_ like that 16:17 < linkhyrule5> where the point is basically "yada yada we don't care about what theyr'e saying" 16:18 < Teceler> usually the dialogue is vagued out in that case though 16:18 < Teceler> but yeah [characters having a casual conversation] [camera pans to show scary thing] 16:18 < Teceler> or whatever 16:20 < linkhyrule5> well, less that and more 16:20 < linkhyrule5> "Character is talking innocently and cheerfully" 16:20 < linkhyrule5> "hasn't done anything scary _yet_" 16:20 < linkhyrule5> "but the music is SO OMINOUS" 16:21 < Teceler> ha 16:24 < linkhyrule5> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VN9OQyr-PXE 16:24 < linkhyrule5> this is the theme in question, fyi 16:24 < linkhyrule5> and actually 16:24 < linkhyrule5> that smile + that music is pretty much the thing 16:24 < linkhyrule5> except less "genki smile", more "peaceful smile" 16:27 < Kel> that is pretty 16:31 * Adelene can has cupcake cups. 16:31 < Teceler> wb Adelene? 16:32 < Kel> Congratulations! 16:32 < Kel> What colors are they? 16:32 <@Adelene> Also, does anyone have a rec for mp3 recording software for windows, offhand? Like, to use with a microphone. 16:32 <@Adelene> (They are black and gold.) 16:32 < Kel> I usually use sound recorder or Audacity 16:33 < Kel> (neat!) 16:33 < Teceler> Audacity works on Windows, I think, yeah 16:33 <@Adelene> I will look into that, thanks :) 16:34 <@Adelene> (No progress on figuring out what Tyche does to relax, Tec?) 16:34 < Teceler> (got distracted by godsfire) 16:34 < Sonata> (is gods burning?) 16:34 <@Adelene> (that is an entirely acceptabe distraction ^^) 16:34 < Teceler> (XD) 16:37 <@Adelene> Though, like - Kel? If the ~30:1 dilation is meant to hold for Steve and Thorn they should be experiencing like 50 minutes per day we do. 16:37 < Kel> hm 16:37 < Kel> yeah it'd have effects to just adjust afterward 16:37 < Teceler> ugh, yeah 16:37 < Kel> Time why 16:37 < Teceler> well 16:37 < Teceler> we /are/ going to be zooming out more 16:38 < Teceler> and like they will be sleeping sometimes 16:38 <@Adelene> My point was more 'considering one pair of tags per day good progress does not seem to work with that'. 16:38 <@Adelene> *shrug* 16:38 < Kel> yeah 16:39 < Kel> sorry 16:39 < Teceler> [hug] 16:39 <@Adelene> indeed, *hug* 16:39 < Teceler> anyway we're almost on three today now :P 16:40 < Kel> [hug] 16:40 < Kel> (three) 16:40 < Teceler> (?) 16:40 < Teceler> three individual tags 16:40 < Kel> (tag) 16:40 < Teceler> oh! 16:40 < Teceler> yay! 16:42 <@Adelene> *pokes at* Like, it doesn't /have/ to be 30:1 for them? Actually my current headcanon is that the TITANs have figured out how to sacrifice time for mana and are doing that, and that /could/ have a stronger localized effect on top of the world one. 16:42 < Kel> ooh 16:42 < Teceler> ...aaa 16:42 < Kel> linkhyrule5? 16:42 < linkhyrule5> I exist 16:42 < Kel> could that be a thing? 16:42 < Teceler> I though the reason for it was the forum connection got weirded by the realitybomb 16:42 < Kel> (yay linksistence!) 16:42 < linkhyrule5> Oooh 16:42 < linkhyrule5> That is clever 16:42 < linkhyrule5> yes, that is definitely a thing 16:42 < Teceler> ha 16:43 <@Adelene> ^^ 16:43 < Kel> Yay! 16:43 < linkhyrule5> Though that would be _more_ of a localized effect, definitely 16:43 < Teceler> if that is a thing part of fixing this may involve /making them stop doing that/ :P 16:43 < Kel> what 16:43 < linkhyrule5> but if they're clever (ha, TITANs being merely clever) they can unlocalize it 16:43 < linkhyrule5> so 16:43 < Kel> do you not want TITANS to have more mana? 16:43 < Kel> at the expense of time dilation? 16:43 < Teceler> no I mean 16:43 < Teceler> part of ic fixing 16:43 < Kel> yeah 16:44 < Kel> ic do people not want for some reason? :P 16:44 < Teceler> Kel 16:44 < Teceler> XD 16:44 <@Adelene> As soon as you fix that and know you've fixed it, Esthfora can find them, if that matters. Which it probably does. 16:44 < Teceler> yeah I think that would be happening at the tail end of godsfire anyway 16:45 < Teceler> although I don't know /how/ one would fix it 16:45 < Kel> find and destroy runes being used? 16:45 < Teceler> ...possibly wake up Eclipse and get them to make it so that's not possible :P 16:45 < Teceler> Kel: mindscape casting 16:45 < Kel> ah 16:45 < Kel> right 16:45 < Kel> find and destroy the TITAN mindscape being used? 16:46 < Teceler> right 16:46 < Teceler> just, destroy a Second-Order Mind 16:46 <@Adelene> Anyway, the /implications/ of that are that DL and Thorn could in fact be experiencing a lot more dilation than everyone else, and what you actually want to do is cut the godsfire plot down to something that's appropriately sized for your progress speed. 16:46 < Teceler> I'm sure that won't be hard at /all/ :P 16:46 < Teceler> Adelene: :( 16:46 < Teceler> um 16:46 < Teceler> I thought the plan was to zoom out more? 16:46 <@Adelene> Or not, *shrug*? 16:46 < linkhyrule5> You could counter that in two ways 16:46 < Andygal> Or just quit chatting and go tag :P 16:47 < linkhyrule5> One, just dumping your own mana into time 16:47 < Teceler> Andygal: am /tagging/ 16:47 < Teceler> linkhyrule5: pfft 16:47 < linkhyrule5> Two, casting a resistance spell on time 16:47 < Teceler> that doesn't solve the TITANs -- yeah that works better 16:47 < linkhyrule5> making it less amenable to sacrifice 16:57 * Teceler nods. 16:57 < Teceler> (belatedly) 16:59 < Sonata> you realize this implies ability to /control/ time dilation for alethics-enabled worlds? 16:59 < Teceler> doing it the other way around is harder I think? 17:00 < Kel> yes? 17:00 < Kel> oh oops 17:01 < Kel> nvm 17:03 < Teceler> Kel: tag! 17:03 < Kel> Eeeeee! 17:06 -!- frogaincia has joined #backstage 17:06 < frogaincia> Hi 17:06 < Kel> Hi! 17:07 < frogaincia> it is me, faceless 17:07 < Kel> ... are you faeless 17:07 < Kel> *face 17:07 < frogaincia> no, faceless 17:07 < Kel> yes you are 17:07 < Kel> XD 17:07 < frogaincia> yup 17:07 < frogaincia> xD 17:07 < frogaincia> how are things? 17:07 < Kel> good! 17:07 < Teceler> okay 17:07 < Teceler> godsfire tagging is happening! 17:07 < Kel> also there is a blestion 17:07 < Kel> (blessing question) 17:07 < Teceler> pft 17:09 < frogaincia> what blestion? 17:09 < frogaincia> who plays aspen? 17:10 < Teceler> Kel 17:10 < Kel> I do 17:10 < Kel> A Blesstion is a Blessing Question 17:12 < frogaincia> I understood the concept of blesstion, but I want to know what is the blestion? It is the one that aspen made? 17:12 < Kel> ah 17:12 < Kel> yeah 17:12 < Kel> it is that one 17:13 < frogaincia> Why aspen said "working"? 17:13 < Kel> to get letters to use 17:13 < Andygal> Aspen needs the letterbox in their signature to write messages. 17:13 < frogaincia> ah, right 17:14 < frogaincia> I feel it is up to Kel which way the blessing works for Aspen, albeit Amber answer would be a variation "I am not really sure" 17:15 < Kel> I don't think I understand blessings well enough 17:17 < Teceler> I don't see why they /wouldn't/ 17:17 < Kel> but which way? 17:17 < Teceler> well 17:17 < Teceler> Aspen probably couldn't /draw/ blessings yeah no way to get the randomness right 17:18 < Kel> no but which birth blessings 17:18 < Teceler> ah 17:18 < Teceler> um 17:18 < Sonata> people can draw /for/ aspen though 17:18 < Kel> yeah 17:20 < Kel> (Also if Aspen was presented with an actual set of blessing coins he'd know what all the coins /were/, which could interfere with the randomness) 17:20 < Teceler> (pft) 17:20 < Teceler> (yeah) 17:20 < Kel> still not sure when birth blessings would be from though 17:20 < frogaincia> you know, I am not entirely sure if you can draw to not-birth-blessed people 17:21 < Sonata> that's a good question 17:22 < Kel> I /think/ the ruling was no? or it gives you ghost coins and then totally random coins until you go away? 17:22 < Teceler> I think the question was more 'if someone else can draw for them' 17:22 < frogaincia> I remember a thread where they draw blessings for a demon 17:22 < frogaincia> and they came out in alphabetic order 17:22 < Teceler> ha 17:22 < Kel> heee yeah 17:22 < frogaincia> but I am unsure if it was because the guy's demonic nature 17:22 < Kel> so I think that is a "no" 17:23 < frogaincia> because if blessings coming out in alphabetic order was a thing, it should have been remarked? 17:23 < Kel> kappa probably knows? 17:23 < frogaincia> anyway, the blestion was answered IC, and Amber asked if Aspen wants to be drawn 17:24 <@kappabeta> what do I probably know? 17:24 < Kel> can blessings be drawn for non-birth-blessinged people by others? 17:25 < Kel> frogaincia, possible typo: "I am don't know" ? 17:26 < Sonata> frogless has a vague remember of someone getting alphabetical when that was tried and it sounds familiar to me also 17:26 < frogaincia> fixed 17:26 < frogaincia> it was a sandbox with andaisq 17:26 <@kappabeta> The thing that can't happen is "blessings are meaningfully drawn for a person who was not correctly birth-blessed". 17:26 < frogaincia> Leo (andaisq character) has sexo with Aleko, both are played by dylan o'brien 17:26 < frogaincia> sex* 17:27 < Sonata> so an unblessed person can efficaciously draw for a blessed person? 17:27 <@kappabeta> The ways this might express itself include things like "alphabetized blessings", "the unblessed person tries to draw for themselves and gets the birth blessings of the person standing next to them", "someone else tries to draw for the unblessed person and gets ghost coins or their own birth blessings" 17:28 <@kappabeta> an unblessed person can draw for a blessed person but might end up just getting their birth blessings repeatedly or something else weird like that 17:28 <@kappabeta> it is unclear 17:29 < Sonata> https://callmeleo.dreamwidth.org/525.html?style=site&view=flat found it 17:29 < Kel> back in a bit, walking neighbors' dog 17:29 -!- Kel is now known as Kelsewhere 17:37 < frogaincia> anyway, I want to post the first wave of answer in an hour or two, is anyone who wants to give a last minute addition to the list? 17:37 < frogaincia> [gdocs link redacted] here is the doc we have been using 17:38 < Teceler> Niryl is not currently in a state to ask 17:38 < Teceler> well 17:38 < Teceler> they might post Eaten-related rambling that incidentally does that 17:38 < Teceler> would that result in them getting drawn for? :P 17:48 -!- frogaincia is now known as FacelessEating 17:49 < FacelessEating> Tec, if it was clear enough? 17:49 < Teceler> heh 17:49 < Andygal> Eaten-related rambling tends to be low on information content. 17:49 < Teceler> that yeah 17:50 < FacelessEating> Who is NIck that people are praising in alicorn's forum squee thread? 17:50 < Andygal> character from a couple of recent sandboxes. 17:51 < FacelessEating> one involved loki? 17:52 < Andygal> Yeah. 17:53 < FacelessEating> ok 17:53 < FacelessEating> anyway, away now 17:54 < Teceler> enjoy 18:10 < FacelessEating> back 18:10 < Teceler> wb 18:13 < FacelessEating> I need to find a ongoing glowfic partner, maybe I should announce in a thread "Searching stable co-authorial relationship. I like to write about long walks in the beach and cuddling" 18:13 <@Adelene> *giggle* 18:13 < Andygal> *snicker* 18:13 < Teceler> pfft 18:15 < FacelessEating> anyone knows a female actress that looks like michael fassbender? 18:16 -!- Kelsewhere is now known as Kel 18:19 < FacelessEating> welcome back 18:19 < Kel> thanks! 18:34 < sigma> Godsfire sure sounds like a rough place to be 18:34 < Teceler> sigma: hm? 18:35 -!- PDV has joined #backstage 18:35 -!- PDVanished has quit 18:35 < sigma> Just that Steve and Thorn seem to be having the opposite of fun. 18:35 < Teceler> ah 18:36 < Teceler> yeah 18:38 -!- PDV is now known as PDVanished 18:42 -!- PDVanished has quit 18:48 < sigma> Meanwhile both Nicks seem to be having a pretty good time. 18:49 < FacelessEating> I need to check those threads out? 18:51 < sigma> If you like reading glowfic. 18:52 < FacelessEating> what a coincidence, I do like to read glowfic! :D 19:02 < sigma> Loki in his world is http://alicornutopia.dreamwidth.org/20333.html?style=site . Nick in Elcenia is http://alicornutopia.dreamwidth.org/13884.html?thread=9120316&style=site#cmt9120316 19:02 < sigma> In case you don't have the links yet. 19:02 < Sonata> //the coins learned English to spite me/ 19:02 < FacelessEating> I actually have them, but thanks 19:03 < FacelessEating> Sonata, hilarious, right? xD 19:03 < Sonata> I could use a godsfire link 19:03 < Sonata> it iiiis 19:03 < Teceler> Sonata: at which point? 19:03 < sigma> Current page http://glowfic.dreamwidth.org/3146.html?view=flat&page=7#comments 19:03 < Sonata> ...good question. I'm probably better served by finding my own left-off point. 19:03 < Sonata> oof 19:03 < Sonata> *ooh 19:03 < Sonata> thank you 19:04 < sigma> :) 19:16 -!- sigma_ has joined #backstage 19:17 -!- sigma has quit 19:21 < Teceler> [crickets] 19:22 < Sky> [cicadas] 19:22 < Andygal> [katydids] 19:26 < Sonata> [fireflies] 19:27 -!- sigma_ is now known as sigma 19:29 < sigma> I'm meeting a guy for a first date in just a couple minutes here. 19:29 < Teceler> good luck 19:29 <@kappabeta> good luck/have fun! 19:29 < FacelessEating> oh, 19:29 < FacelessEating> i missed the chance of saying "tumbleweed pass by" 19:30 < sigma> Thanks! 19:30 < Andygal> good luck? 19:30 < FacelessEating> sigma, goodluck o/ 19:30 < Sonata> Good luck~ 19:30 < sigma> :D 19:31 < FacelessEating> anyway, I am about to post the first wave of blessings soon-ish 19:32 < Andygal> <3 19:32 -!- sigma has quit 19:34 * Sonata is using erc which is emacs irc client 19:34 * Sonata can play with emacs features right here in irc! 19:34 <@kappabeta> haha 19:34 < Sonata> λ 19:36 < Sonata> hey, do you guys see colors if i do this 19:36 < Teceler> n 19:36 < Andygal> Nope. 19:36 < FacelessEating> nada 19:36 < Sonata> how about bold if i do this 19:37 < Teceler> n 19:37 < Sky> no 19:37 < Sonata> hmm 19:37 < Andygal> Nope. 19:37 < Sonata> this should be bold i think though 19:37 <@kappabeta> yes 19:37 < Sonata> wheee! 19:37 < Andygal> Yep! 19:38 < Teceler> y 19:38 < Sonata> because 19:42 < FacelessEating> posted the blessings \o/ 19:42 < Sonata> wheeee! 19:43 < FacelessEating> some of the elemental affilitons were missing 19:44 < Sky> I don't think there's any way to tell what element someone is by drawing blessings for them 19:44 < FacelessEating> albeit Ahrotahn is very obvious 19:44 < FacelessEating> huh 19:44 < FacelessEating> better take away that part then 19:44 < Andygal> Yeah the elements are just for the player's notes. 19:46 < linkhyrule5> went shopping 19:46 < linkhyrule5> I was tagged? 19:46 <@kappabeta> wb link 19:46 < linkhyrule5> Oh, kappabeta 19:46 < linkhyrule5> I have a better example of the thing 19:46 < Teceler> wb link 19:46 < linkhyrule5> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VN9OQyr-PXE&list=FLp1P-P02lG1qrxQsiSLbjPg&index=1 19:47 < linkhyrule5> This theme 19:47 < linkhyrule5> paired with that smile/posture/body type 19:47 < linkhyrule5> it's the way it's _not in the body language at all_ 19:47 <@kappabeta> I think you linked that already 19:49 < linkhyrule5> oh? 19:49 < linkhyrule5> that's okay, it's great theme 19:49 <@kappabeta> yeah 19:49 < FacelessEating> Andygal, I understand, but mostly this is just a fun way to get people sorted xD 19:50 <@kappabeta> my brain still doesn't hear that theme well, and I'm still not sure why, there's way less noise right now than there was earlier 19:50 < linkhyrule5> ... 19:51 * linkhyrule5 notes: *Nui's theme is brown note for kappa's brain; engineer basilisk hack?* 19:51 < linkhyrule5> :V 19:51 < Teceler> pft 19:51 < Kel> oh! 19:51 <@kappabeta> hahahaha 19:51 <@kappabeta> I mean 19:51 < Kel> look how the room's tiled! 19:51 <@kappabeta> it really is not that thing at all :P 19:51 < Kel> Teceler! 19:51 < Teceler> hm? 19:51 <@kappabeta> it just doesn't parse well 19:51 < Kel> the basilisk hack music room in the link link linked 19:51 < Kel> er 19:51 <@kappabeta> my audio processing is... something 19:52 < Kel> in the song that Link posted a url of 19:52 < linkhyrule5> kel: pfff 19:52 < Kel> look what it's tiled in! 19:52 < Teceler> XD 19:52 * Teceler goes to look 19:52 < linkhyrule5> ... hexagonal cobblestones? 19:53 < Kel> yeah 19:53 < Kel> brb 19:58 < Kel> bk 20:00 < FacelessEating> wb 20:00 < Teceler> wb 20:01 < Kel> thx 20:08 < Sonata> testing... abcefgh i 20:08 < Sonata> jkl 20:08 < Teceler> ...I do not normally get errorcharacters! 20:08 < Kel> huh 20:08 < Andygal> ! 20:08 < Sonata> yeah I'm not sure what happened there 20:08 < Kel> yeah I am also getting errorters 20:08 < Teceler> (large character set installed) 20:08 < Kel> *error characters 20:09 < Sonata> on reflection I bet I know what happened 20:10 < Kel> (does anyone know if Aestrix is likely to be on at all over the next chunk of time?) 20:10 < Sonata> I put in a bunch of control character type things and probably most of them don't mean anything in terms of irc text fancying so they got passed through raw, and then they can't be printed because they don't actually mean anything. 20:10 < Teceler> ah, control characters yeah that would do it 20:11 < Sonata> I learned that I can make reverse/highlighted text 20:11 < Kel> Oooh FacelessEating nice icon! 20:11 < Teceler> ooo 20:11 < Kel> ooooh! 20:11 < Sonata> apparently that's ^V. Bold is ^B. 20:11 <@Adelene> (8:11:30 PM) Aestrix: I can poke my head online now if I am needed 20:11 <@Adelene> (@ Kel) 20:12 < Kel> (thank you) 20:12 < Kel> I wanted to ask if she wants to do another Aspen-Inkspot PMthread 20:12 -!- Aestrix has joined #backstage 20:12 < FacelessEating> kel, thanks 20:12 < Kel> Hi! 20:12 < Aestrix> I HAVE BEEN SUMMONED 20:12 < Sonata> halloa 20:12 < FacelessEating> hi Aestrix! 20:13 < Aestrix> Hi! 20:13 < Kel> Would you like to do another Aspen Inkspot PMthread? 20:13 -!- FacelessEating is now known as FacelessFace 20:13 < Teceler> hello Aestrix 20:13 -!- sigma has joined #backstage 20:13 < Kel> Hi! 20:13 < sigma> Hey 20:13 < linkhyrule5> FacelessFace - what's your opinion of No-Face? 20:13 < linkhyrule5> :P 20:13 < Aestrix> Sure, I think Ina is in her timeline paying attention to private messages but not actively foruming 20:13 < Aestrix> So PMthread is fine 20:13 < Kel> okay 20:14 < Kel> does she know about the blessings thread? 20:14 < sigma> No sign of the guy yet 20:14 < FacelessFace> Linky, he is a major copycat 20:14 < FacelessFace> (also who is he?) 20:14 < Aestrix> Uhhh probably not, but she can go look at it if it's brought up 20:14 < Kel> okay 20:14 < Kel> that can happen then 20:14 < FacelessFace> (always consider me in a constant state of confusion and disorientation) 20:14 < Kel> [hug?] 20:15 < Kel> Aspen wants to know what blessings go with her and wants to know whether they're /hers/ or if they go to whoever she was when alive 20:16 < Aestrix> *nod* 20:16 < Kel> yay! 20:16 < Aestrix> Ina is there to be a PM helper, I'm guessing? 20:17 < Kel> yeah, if you and she are still okay with that? 20:17 < Aestrix> Yep! 20:17 < Aestrix> Ina will always be fine with it, and what's tripping me up is not posting in general but like... Facet threading takes a lot of energy 20:17 < Aestrix> Because it is _highly_ Aestrix driven. 20:18 < Kel> ah 20:18 < Aestrix> So because of that I am tripped up for foruming too 20:18 < Kel> [hug?] 20:18 < Aestrix> *hug* 20:18 < Aestrix> I'm okay <3 20:18 < sigma> Is Inamaze easier? 20:18 * FacelessFace also offers hugs 20:18 < Aestrix> A bit, the evil maze is just sort of. "Okay so the maze is trying to kill them, again, exciting." 20:19 < FacelessFace> (Aestrix, Is ina eventually going to want birth blessings?) 20:19 < Teceler> I should work out what Niryl's blessing /are/, they'll probably ask when they can talk sensibly 20:20 < Aestrix> With Facet threading it's sort of. "Okay so I need to figure out how to subvert a very powerful government in the most efficient possible manner and understand all moving parts currently going on." 20:20 < Aestrix> Probably 20:20 < Teceler> yeah, that sounds tricky 20:20 < FacelessFace> hella tricky 20:20 < FacelessFace> are you sure that we can't throw extreme firepower at the problem? 20:20 < Andygal> I am still slowed down on blessingthread because I am not quite satisfied with Singer's blessing set. 20:20 < FacelessFace> or miles isnt around to help? 20:21 < Aestrix> I kind of don't want Miles to help xD 20:21 < Aestrix> Ina needs to do this on her own 20:21 < Andygal> Faceles: Extreme firepower only solves half the problem. 20:21 < Aestrix> Also that 20:21 <@kappabeta> also, at the point in time when Ina is doing this, Miles is unavailable. 20:21 < Aestrix> Ina's got firepower 20:21 < FacelessFace> (I was mostly joking) 20:21 < Aestrix> Her entire problem is that her problem is really social and really infrastructural 20:21 < FacelessFace> Andygal: well, with knowing you have the two halves of the battle 20:22 < FacelessFace> and she is constrained by those annoying morals 20:22 < Andygal> like after you blow up the government, what do you replace it with? 20:22 < FacelessFace> while her enemies are all "lets torture some people" 20:22 < Andygal> This has screwed up more than one real-life rebellion. 20:22 < Aestrix> Yeah, basically. 20:22 < Aestrix> I mean Ina's done groundwork to have a government to replace it with 20:23 < Aestrix> But she needs to kill the government efficiently, as quickly as possible once she gets started, and then she needs to replace it with something that is better but can fill its shoes competently 20:24 < Aestrix> And she needs to not start a civil war doing it. 20:24 < Teceler> hmmm. Niryl: sweela, I think. intelligence, creativity, persistence? 20:24 < Aestrix> This is not an easy thing. xD 20:24 < Teceler> [hugs for Ina?] 20:24 < Aestrix> And she's going to use every single bit of leverage she has to bear to make it work, so that requires every bit of leverage *I* can bring to bear from her end. 20:24 < Aestrix> While still giving her enemies the attention and intellect they deserve 20:25 < Aestrix> Instead of, say, writing them all off as idiots 20:25 < Teceler> very tricky 20:25 < Kel> yeah. that is a common thing that happens. 20:25 < Aestrix> And I can *probably* do all that, but doing all of that while also having the final stretch of college is *hard* 20:25 < Kel> [hug] 20:25 < Aestrix> Because the final stretch of college is *me* pulling out all of the stops. 20:25 < Aestrix> *hug* 20:26 < Sonata> this is probably why glowfic, so things can be less singleplayer 20:26 <@kappabeta> <333333333 20:26 < Teceler> do you think there are any big surprises there, or can you leave it for a while and fill it in later? 20:26 < Aestrix> There are probably no big surprises? 20:26 < Aestrix> But also large groups of people are just. Tiring. xD 20:28 < Andygal> You have one semester left after your current one yes? 20:28 < Aestrix> Yeah 20:28 < Aestrix> But that's no guarantee I will have more energy to do things 20:28 < Aestrix> Because job 20:28 < Aestrix> And likely moving 20:29 <@Adelene> btw Aestrix: http://liighty.tumblr.com/post/127666659767/i-love-it-when-fanfic-authors-do-the-thing 20:29 <@Adelene> (I pasted that before but you were not here) 20:30 < Aestrix> Ha 20:30 < Aestrix> <3 20:30 <@Adelene> ^^ <3 20:30 < sigma> I put some things off until after college and then I regretted it because after college I was even less able to deal with them. 20:31 < Aestrix> I mean, if I can't pick back up the MWF then I can't pick back up the MWF 20:31 < Aestrix> It sucks and I don't want it to happen 20:31 < Aestrix> But uh 20:31 < Aestrix> I need my brain cells for demo reel purposes xD 20:31 <@Adelene> Priorities, yes. 20:31 < Teceler> yeah, that makes sense 20:31 * kappabeta carefully cultivates Aestrix's brain cells with tea and hugs 20:31 < Teceler> at least Ina can be conveniently busy 20:32 < Aestrix> Aww <3 20:32 < Aestrix> Yeah, Ina and Prism and Rae can all be neatly put on hold 20:32 < Andygal> do you have a job lined up? 20:32 < Aestrix> That is going to be the thing that I work on soonish. 20:33 < Andygal> because uh if you don't I wouldn't count on finding one anytime soon. 20:33 < sigma> Where's my date :( 20:33 < Andygal> sigma: :( 20:33 < Teceler> [hugs for sigma if wanted] 20:33 < Aestrix> :( 20:34 < Kel> [hugs offered] 20:34 < Sonata> [optional hugs] 20:34 < sigma> [Hugs all] 20:34 < Sonata> hopefully it's just some mundane thing like traffic but :( 20:35 < Aestrix> Anyway, if I'm not needed for anything else, augh large group of people I vaguely want to flee xD 20:35 < Kel> ok, thanks for answer 20:35 < Teceler> [hugs if wanted] 20:35 < Kel> [hug?] 20:35 < Aestrix> *hugs!* 20:35 < Aestrix> Bye~ 20:35 < Kel> bye! 20:35 < sigma> This is an hour late which is when I'd told myself I'd give up on seeing him today. 20:35 < Teceler> bye 20:35 < sigma> Bye Aestrix 20:35 -!- Aestrix has left #backstage 20:36 < Kel> :( 20:37 < Sonata> :( 20:40 < linkhyrule5> "Hey, fancy a snack? TAKE MY KITCHEN." 20:40 < Sonata> link, ? 20:40 < linkhyrule5> funny quote 20:41 < Teceler> it is helpful if you context it with that to start with :P 20:42 < Teceler> otherwise people are kind of 'where it that from? are we supposed to know something about that?' 20:43 < Sonata> so who here is in FL? 20:44 < Sky> I am 20:44 < Sonata> i know me and Niryl-who-I-think-is-Tec, kappa whose username I don't know, I vaguely think a couple others but I forget who 20:44 < Sonata> ooh hello! 20:44 < Teceler> yeah, Niryl is mine 20:44 <@Adelene> Oh, Link. 20:44 < Kel> I think Evenstar is maybe? 20:45 < linkhyrule5> ? 20:45 < Teceler> Evenstar is yeah 20:45 < Teceler> Evenstar is not currently here though 20:45 < Kel> oh here as in here now not here as in mwf 20:45 < Teceler> kappa if I knew what your FL username was I would send you this catbox I discovered I have 20:45 < Teceler> Kel: I don't know 20:45 < Andygal> I am. 20:45 < Sonata> so many! 20:45 < Andygal> AndreaD 20:45 < Teceler> if we are talking about not-currently-here people PDV too 20:45 < Kel> I am planning to at somepoint 20:46 < Sonata> oh right! I put you in my contact list earlier Andygal 20:46 < Andygal> OK. 20:46 < Andygal> Cool. 20:46 <@Adelene> Link: Lurker's magic sense thing lets her see the local physics. This is very abstract and completely unlabeled, but she can /usually/ figure out time well enough to for example do 'in ten minutes' as a spell trigger. How does the TITANs spending time for mana interact with that? 20:46 < Sonata> etherpad for whosits y/n? 20:47 < linkhyrule5> Adelene - Oh *geeeeez* 20:47 < linkhyrule5> Um. 20:47 < Teceler> Sonata: is you want sure 20:47 < linkhyrule5> Define "physics." 20:47 < Teceler> pfffft 20:47 < linkhyrule5> This is getting into the differences between a world and a Truth 20:47 < Teceler> linkhyrule5: they're /physics/ :P 20:47 <@Adelene> yeah, what Tec said. ^^ 20:47 < linkhyrule5> Yeah, but like. 20:47 < Sonata> https://etherpad.net/p/glowinglondon 20:47 * Teceler giggles at etherpad name 20:48 < Kel> heee 20:48 < Teceler> linkhyrule5: can you articulate those or? 20:48 < Teceler> or rather the relevant ones 20:48 < sigma> One possible "define physics" question is does physics include magic? 20:48 < linkhyrule5> ... Like, the relevant differences are 20:48 <@Adelene> Like, I /think/ what she usually gets is a sense of some particular thing that's changing in a regular and predictable way, such that she can go 'in ten minutes it will be like /this/, spell ends when it sees that, if that helps. 20:49 < linkhyrule5> physics is generally something that cares only about things within its domain 20:49 < Kel> ... Lurker should probably not visit Eventide 20:49 < linkhyrule5> it doesn't extend, momentum doesn't apply to emotions, things like that 20:49 <@Adelene> If Eventide has problems with linear time she just won't be able to do that there. 20:49 < linkhyrule5> alethics will go "here is how everything works", and works on concepts and arbitrary new things *** MotherStarlight (~mothersta@PSI-B4560119.lisco.net) has quit: Client exited <linkhyrule5> there's no such thing as an Outside Context Problem to alethics as a whole [20:50] <Teceler> ...we lost MS <FacelessFace> yay, I love how my computer gets super-not-cooperative <linkhyrule5> so there's, like, a set of meta-rules, narrative rules and magic rules and so on that define a Truth <FacelessFace> took 10 minutes just to get to this tab <linkhyrule5> and then there's a way of ways-particles-behave that define a world <Kel> [hug?] <Teceler> linkhyrule5: um <Kel> also nicely timed <FacelessFace> just wanted to wish good night folks p/ <Kel> good night <Teceler> sleep well Faceless * FacelessFace accepts kels hugs <FacelessFace> sleep well you people o/ [20:51] <sigma> Good night Faceless <linkhyrule5> and sometimes the world and the Truth are the same thing <linkhyrule5> Entelechy is like that <linkhyrule5> but not all worlds are, so * Teceler nods. <Teceler> like <Teceler> [tries to articulate] *** FacelessFace (bd52bcb1@PSI-55571805.mibbit.com) has quit: Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client [20:52] <Teceler> I feel like there could be OCPs to certain world-variants of alethics? but I"m not sure? <linkhyrule5> I mean, there are OCPs to the _people who use it_ <linkhyrule5> but like <linkhyrule5> I mean <kappabeta> what is an Outside Context Problem <linkhyrule5> If you ask "how does physics respond to someone detonating a Soulsplitter Orb" <Teceler> ah [20:53] <Teceler> there is a defined answer? <linkhyrule5> the answer is "nothing, physics does not have a term in it for souls" <linkhyrule5> But if you ask "how does alethics respond to it" <Teceler> pffft <linkhyrule5> there is _always_ an aswer <Teceler> well, like <Teceler> when talking about magic worlds I tend to include magic rules in the word 'physics'? XD [20:54] <Adelene> Carp magic vision is pretty comprehensive and can also see magic, emotions, etc. It just doesn't tell you what the things it's showing you mean at all. <Teceler> but yeah <Teceler> ahahaha <Teceler> Carp why XD <Adelene> *It* thinks it makes perfect sense. <Adelene> Carp is /really bad/ at theory of mind. ^^ <linkhyrule5> anyway, the relevant question is "does what the TITANs are doing show up as 'part of the world' or 'outside of the world'" [20:55] <linkhyrule5> is it "something outside of physics randomly screwing ith the laws of physics" or "something within physics changing other parts of physics according to natural law" <linkhyrule5> (unthinkable natural law :P ) <kappabeta> unthinkable...? [20:57] <linkhyrule5> Quote <linkhyrule5> it's a name of a thing <linkhyrule5> Touhou Hisoutensoku <linkhyrule5> Unthinkable Natural Law <Adelene> Okay, like, a practical question here. We've already established that the time dilation isn't consistent even in a given place. If Lurker looks at the timey bits of whatever she's looking at, and goes 'okay, in one minute this thing changes this much in these ways, in ten minutes of it changing that much in those ways it should look like this', [20:59] <Adelene> and sets that as the spell trigger, and then the dilation changes, does her spell effect still end in ten subjective minutes or does that change with the dilation? <linkhyrule5> Like I said, it depends on the metaphysical details <linkhyrule5> Mm. <Adelene> That is the question I'm asking you. :P [21:00] <linkhyrule5> It sounds like she's defining a seperate time-axis parallel to her current timeline <linkhyrule5> and defining her spells based on that axis <linkhyrule5> if that's the case, alethics will respect that and her spells will go off in 10 subjective minutes. [21:01] <Teceler> I think link is asking about the details of how the Carp-magic thing works <Teceler> Adelene 21:01 -!- MotherStarlight has joined #backstage 21:01 -!- Irssi: #backstage: Total of 12 nicks [2 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 10 normal] 21:01 -!- mode/#backstage [+o MotherStarlight] by ChanServ 21:01 < linkhyrule5> well, subjective-as-according-to-original-Lurker 21:01 -!- Irssi: Join to #backstage was synced in 22 secs 21:01 <@Adelene> Link is going to need to ask more comprehensible questions, in that case. 21:01 < linkhyrule5> mmkay 21:01 < linkhyrule5> Um. 21:01 < Kel> do you need logs? 21:01 < linkhyrule5> Specific examples 21:01 < linkhyrule5> uh 21:02 < linkhyrule5> okay 21:02 <@MotherStarlight> no, I got it thanks 21:02 <@Adelene> Like - Lurker isn't making or defining anything, there, she's looking at things that already exist. 21:02 < Kel> ok 21:02 -!- mode/#backstage [-o MotherStarlight] by MotherStarlight 21:02 < linkhyrule5> Yeeees, but when she casts a spell she's doing it according her own perception of time, which is sort of a definition in the way that you can define a television as "taht thing I'm seeing" 21:02 <@Adelene> (I'm pretty sure. If that completely doesn't work there is room to change it.) 21:02 <@Adelene> Ok. 21:02 < linkhyrule5> Anyway, so 21:03 < linkhyrule5> example, to clarify things 21:03 < linkhyrule5> Lurker casts a spell: "That egg will break in ten minutes." 21:04 < linkhyrule5> When she does that, is she asking the /world/ how much ten minutes is, or looking ahead and trying to judge how much ten minutes of /personal time/ corresponds to how much world-time? 21:05 <@Adelene> Assuming a world without Eclipse' time weirdness for a moment: She's spending a minute looking at a thing that is changing in a regular timeish way, seeing how much it changes in that time, and estimating what it will look like in ten minutes based on that. 21:06 < linkhyrule5> Okay. 21:06 < linkhyrule5> That sounds to me like she's trying to target things based on her _personal_ timeline 21:06 < linkhyrule5> not wallclock time 21:06 < linkhyrule5> In that case... 21:07 <@kappabeta> I mean, what if the thing she's looking at is an actual clock on an actual wall? 21:07 <@Adelene> The thing she is looking at is very much like an actual clock on an actual wall, yes. 21:07 < linkhyrule5> So, is the trigger "in ten minutes" 21:08 < linkhyrule5> or "when that clock looks like this"? 21:08 <@Adelene> 'when that clock looks like this'. 21:08 < linkhyrule5> Ah. 21:08 < linkhyrule5> Then it goes off whenever that clock looks like whatever it's supposed to look like 21:08 < linkhyrule5> which may or may not be ten minutes according to original-Lurker's timeline 21:08 <@Adelene> She's using her personal timeline for calibration purposes, though, the 'clock' she's looking at isn't convenient enough to have minute marks. :P 21:09 <@Adelene> Okay, that is my question. 21:09 <@Adelene> What does the TITANs' time dilation do to that process. 21:09 < linkhyrule5> Basically... 21:09 < linkhyrule5> Okay, imagine two Lurkers 21:10 < linkhyrule5> one of them is sitting outside Eclipse and one of them is in Eclipse 21:10 < linkhyrule5> Or rather, one Lurker casting a spell into Eclipse from outside of it 21:10 < linkhyrule5> If the world then time-dilates 21:10 < linkhyrule5> the spell dilates with it 21:10 < linkhyrule5> Because she's ultimately telling to trigger on a way-the-world-is 21:10 < linkhyrule5> and the world is just ... skipping ahead, every now and then 21:11 < linkhyrule5> though it's not impossible it could skip _past_ her trigger 21:11 < linkhyrule5> depending on how much time they're sacrificing at once 21:12 <@Adelene> Fun. :P 21:12 < linkhyrule5> indeed 21:12 < linkhyrule5> :D 21:12 -!- mode/#backstage [+o Sonata] by ChanServ 21:12 -!- mode/#backstage [+iSM] by Sonata 21:12 <@Adelene> That sounds like she can see something about it if/when she goes to cast a spell with that kind of trigger, is that interesting at all? 21:13 -!- mode/#backstage [+v MotherStarlight] by Sonata 21:13 <@Sonata> aaargh 21:13 <@Sonata> did I just accidentally make it so no one can talk 21:13 <@Adelene> don't think so 21:14 <@Sonata> thanks Kel 21:14 <@Sonata> working on it 21:15 -!- mode/#backstage [-iSM] by Sonata 21:15 <@Adelene> eep? 21:15 < Kel> testing? 21:15 <@Adelene> yay ^^ 21:16 <@Adelene> Anyway - if she can see the time dilation in action that actually comes up really soon, since she's going to want to do time-limited spells to test out casting in simulspace I think. 21:17 < Andygal> testing? 21:18 <@Adelene> I see you. 21:18 < Kel> I see you Andygal 21:18 < Teceler> bk 21:18 < Kel> wb! 21:18 <@Sonata> Sorry about that. 21:18 <@Adelene> *hug* 21:18 < Kel> [hug? 21:18 < Kel> ] 21:19 < Andygal> that was annoying :P 21:22 < linkhyrule5> Adelene - possibly! 21:22 < linkhyrule5> It's entirely possible she'll notice that a bit of time was just skipped 21:22 < Kel> skipped? 21:22 <@Sonata> Apparently /mode +v MotherStarlight gives the v flag to MS, but /mode MotherStarlight +v attempts to give each of the flags M o t h e r S t a r l i g h t to the channel as a whole. 21:22 < Teceler> ....pffft 21:23 < Kel> huh 21:23 <@Sonata> and it so happens that M means that only registered users can talk. 21:23 < Andygal> pffffft 21:24 -!- sigma has quit 21:30 -!- sigma has joined #backstage 21:32 < Kel> hi 21:33 <@Sonata> wb 21:34 <@Adelene> *examines schedule* I should sleep. :P 21:34 < Teceler> sleep well 21:34 < Kel> sleep well! 21:34 <@Adelene> *hug* 21:35 < Kel> *hug* 21:35 -!- Adelene is now known as Sleepdelene 21:36 < Andygal> Night Adelene 21:53 < sigma> Nick, oh honey, if hearing of thirty deaths turns you green then there's bad news in your future. 21:53 < sigma> (Apropos of Nick in the circle) 21:57 < Andygal> pfffft 22:01 -!- sigma has quit 22:01 -!- sigma has joined #backstage 22:05 < sigma> For example, should the Aabalan attack occur, he'd have to deal with "442 deaths total, 84 of legal minors." All civilian. 22:07 < sigma> Ideally, without Talyn messing about the Aabalan attack will not occur. 22:32 < Kel> good night 22:32 <@Sonata> Goodnight Kel 22:32 < Teceler> sleep well 22:32 < Andygal> night Kel. 22:32 < Kel> thank you! 22:32 -!- Kel is now known as Kelsleep 22:32 < Kelsleep> night 22:32 < Kelsleep> <3 22:32 < Teceler> good night 22:32 <@Sonata> sigma, perhaps. But if Nick makes enough of a name for himself as a Highly Interesting Offworlder, then the whosits may decide to acquire an offworlder of their own. 22:33 <@Sonata> (Who may or may not turn out to be Isateian...) 22:33 < Teceler> brb 22:34 < sigma> Now wanting a 'box where the Linnipese project gets another character from the same author. 22:38 -!- Kelsleep has quit 22:39 < sigma> Be funny if they acquired Rhysel though. 22:42 < Teceler> bk 22:59 < sigma> Welcome back 23:00 < linkhyrule5> pfffff 23:01 < linkhyrule5> Sonata - *is amused* 23:01 <@Sonata> ^_^ 23:03 <@kappabeta> i must sleep 23:04 < Teceler> sleep well 23:04 <@kappabeta> why does time persist in passing without my authorization 23:04 <@kappabeta> goodnight friends 23:04 < sigma> Good night kappa 23:05 -!- kappabeta has left #backstage 23:25 -!- PDV has joined #backstage 23:55 -!- Sonata has quit 23:56 -!- Sonata has joined #backstage 23:58 -!- sigma has quit --- Day changed Fri Aug 28 2015 00:08 -!- MTC has joined #backstage 00:28 -!- Sky has quit 00:35 -!- Sonata has quit 00:35 -!- linkhyrule5 has quit 00:58 -!- Teceler is now known as Teceler|Asleep 01:25 <@Sleepdelene> ]\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\].iinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn 01:25 <@Sleepdelene> i]]]]]]]]]]] 01:47 -!- linkhyrule5 has joined #backstage 02:04 -!- PDV has quit
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04:30 -!- Kelsewhere has joined #backstage 05:30 -!- Andygal has quit 05:32 -!- Kelsewhere has quit 06:48 -!- FacelessWork has joined #backstage 06:53 < FacelessWork> hi 06:57 -!- Sleepdelene is now known as Busydelene 07:01 -!- kappabeta has joined #backstage 07:01 -!- mode/#backstage [+o kappabeta] by ChanServ 07:19 -!- Kelsewhere has joined #backstage 08:04 -!- Busydelene has quit 08:07 < FacelessWork> Branch = Mark right? 08:07 <@kappabeta> no. twig is mark, branch is cordelia 08:07 < FacelessWork> ah, okay 08:10 < FacelessWork> how is Cordelia btw, I think last I heard she was an angel? 08:10 <@kappabeta> she is still an angel 08:11 < FacelessWork> how is that working for her? 09:05 -!- Adelene has joined #backstage 09:05 -!- mode/#backstage [+o Adelene] by ChanServ 09:05 -!- Adelene is now known as Workdelene 09:13 -!- Adelene has joined #backstage 09:13 -!- mode/#backstage [+o Adelene] by ChanServ 09:14 -!- Workdelene has quit 09:17 -!- Adelene1 has joined #backstage 09:18 -!- Adelene has quit 09:24 -!- Adelene has joined #backstage 09:24 -!- mode/#backstage [+o Adelene] by ChanServ 09:25 -!- Adelene1 has quit 09:26 -!- Adelene1 has joined #backstage 09:27 -!- Adelene has quit 09:34 -!- Adelene has joined #backstage 09:34 -!- mode/#backstage [+o Adelene] by ChanServ 09:35 -!- Adelene1 has quit 09:44 -!- Adelene1 has joined #backstage 09:46 -!- Adelene has quit 09:47 -!- Adelene has joined #backstage 09:48 -!- mode/#backstage [+o Adelene] by ChanServ 09:49 -!- Adelene1 has quit 09:55 -!- FacelessWork has quit 10:10 -!- Kelsewhere is now known as Kelish 10:12 -!- Adelene has quit 10:13 -!- Adelene has joined #backstage 10:13 -!- mode/#backstage [+o Adelene] by ChanServ 10:15 -!- Adelene has quit 10:37 -!- Teceler|Asleep is now known as Teceler 10:37 < Teceler> morning? 10:40 < Kelish> good morning! 10:40 < Teceler> morning :) 10:45 -!- Adelene has joined #backstage 10:46 -!- mode/#backstage [+o Adelene] by ChanServ 10:46 <@Adelene> o/ 10:46 < Teceler> hello 10:46 <@Adelene> *examines backscroll* Sorry about that :P 10:46 < Teceler> have you been having internet troubles? 10:47 <@Adelene> I was at the library and apparently the connection there isn't very good. 10:47 < Teceler> ah 10:47 * Teceler nods. 10:47 <@Adelene> Next time I will arrange to not be here. 10:58 <@Adelene> In related news I think this appointment probably answers my question about working for Autism Works. I am Too Discordian For This Shit. MCIL looks likely to be a good option though. ^^ 10:59 < Teceler> [hugs if wanted] 10:59 -!- FacelessWork has joined #backstage 10:59 <@Adelene> (Like, possibly it's just this one person? She's not even partiularly high up in the heirarchy I think. But I have a very low tollerance for the concept that peoples' worth is based on whether they can or want to work.) 11:00 -!- sigma has joined #backstage 11:00 < Teceler> ... 11:00 < Teceler> argh 11:01 < Teceler> ...hello Faceless, hello sigma 11:01 < sigma> Hi 11:01 <@Adelene> I *suspect* it's just this one person, but it is a pretty small place and this isn't the only interpersonal issue that's making me go >.> there. 11:01 < FacelessWork> ops 11:01 < FacelessWork> hi people 11:01 < FacelessWork> o/ 11:01 <@Adelene> (also hi, yes.) 11:01 < sigma> Have I walked in on an argh-worthy situation 11:02 * Adelene just got back from a thing that was not a job interview but was conceptually related to one. 11:02 <@Adelene> (8/28/2015 10:58:49 AM) Adelene: In related news I think this appointment probably answers my question about working for Autism Works. I am Too Discordian For This Shit. MCIL looks likely to be a good option though. ^^ 11:02 <@Adelene> (8/28/2015 10:59:16 AM) Teceler: [hugs if wanted] 11:02 <@Adelene> (8/28/2015 10:59:54 AM) Adelene: (Like, possibly it's just this one person? She's not even partiularly high up in the heirarchy I think. But I have a very low tollerance for the concept that peoples' worth is based on whether they can or want to work.) 11:03 < sigma> Oh dear. I'm glad you have better options than dealing with that. 11:03 <@Adelene> *nod* 11:04 <@Adelene> MCIL has some accessability issues? Like, the reason I haven't interacted with them at all is that they're very phone-dependent and augh. But that's work-around-able now. 11:04 < FacelessWork> (hugs?) 11:04 <@Adelene> *hug* 11:04 < Teceler> [repetition of the availability of hugs] 11:05 <@Adelene> Like, the person I was talking to was an intern at MCIL and didn't like it /because/ a lot of the work was with people who weren't interested in pushing themselves to have jobs or careers when, presumably, that didn't make sense for them. So that's kind of a recomendation right there. ^^ 11:05 < Teceler> ha 11:06 <@Adelene> (If guaranteed basic income was a thing, *I* would probably not work, or work very little. So, like. Fuck off, lady.) 11:07 < sigma> Indeed. 11:08 <@Adelene> On the other hand if GBI was a thing the job market would look super different, so who knows. But, like. That is /really/ not a drive. And capitalism being a thing I have to deal with means I do /less/ useful stuff than I otherwise would, I'm pretty sure. 11:13 < FacelessWork> I feel like making a joke about ingroup/outgroup and comunism, but I ate too much and feel like taking a nap now, so pretend I did one 11:13 <@Adelene> *chuckle* 11:13 < FacelessWork> ^_^ 11:13 < Teceler> sleep well if you decide to, Faceless? 11:14 < FacelessWork> I cant really, I mean, I am alone at work and it wouldnt be that bad if I took a few minutes nap, but there is no proper place here 11:14 < Teceler> ah 11:14 < Teceler> [hugs if wanted] 11:14 * FacelessWork deposits the hugs in the hug account 11:15 < FacelessWork> also I feel like I should ask something here but cant recall what it was ».» 11:16 < FacelessWork> also, tbh, it is more of annoyance than anything bad 11:19 < FacelessWork> oh right 11:19 < Teceler> something forum-related? 11:19 < Teceler> pfft 11:19 < FacelessWork> how much of a bad idea would be to bring someone with similar kind of creepness that Bonesaw from Worm has? 11:19 < Teceler> ... 11:20 < Teceler> hm 11:20 <@kappabeta> that sounds like it would incite Plot 11:20 < Teceler> that yeah 11:20 < Kelish> I have achieved a Victory! 11:20 < Teceler> yay! 11:21 < Kelish> I found out where my classes are! 11:21 * Adelene notes own triggers around nonconsentual med stuff. 11:21 -!- Sonata has joined #backstage 11:21 < Kelish> Hi Sonata! 11:21 < Sonata> Hi 11:21 < Teceler> ...yeah that could be triggery for people too 11:21 < Teceler> hello sonata 11:21 < FacelessWork> kellish, congratulations! 11:21 <@Adelene> yes, grats kel ^^ 11:21 < Kelish> Afaict, the only way to find /where/ my classes are is to go to add or drop a class and then look up the specific class I'm registered for 11:22 < Kelish> but I found them! 11:22 < Kelish> thanks! 11:22 < FacelessWork> to elaborate: it would be Good Girl, from the fanfic Weaver Nine, She is a hero and less creepy than bonesaw, but not-not creep you know? 11:22 -!- Kelish is now known as Kel 11:22 < Kel> does she do nonconsensual med stuff? 11:22 < Teceler> ...that is weird. badly designed website is badly-designed 11:22 < Teceler> mostly no iirc 11:22 < FacelessWork> I agree with Tec o.o 11:22 <@Adelene> Faceless: That's actually /more/ likely to be triggery for me, ambiguously moral characters are a problem for me in relation to that. 11:23 < FacelessWork> how much spoilers can I give for the fanfic? 11:23 <@Adelene> (in relation to noncon med stuff. Or dubcon.) 11:23 * Adelene does not mind spoilers. 11:23 < Teceler> #spoilers ? 11:23 < FacelessWork> Good Girl hasnt showed up much, but I will go to the other channel and tell what I know 11:31 < Kel> and I need to leave in about 5 min 11:31 < Teceler> luck 11:31 < Teceler> [hugs] 11:31 < Kel> thanks! 11:31 < Kel> [hugs] 11:32 < Kel> class isn't /hard/ just. I was kinda hoping to learn new things and haven't so far, but there keep being announcements and the attendance system is supposed to start working today 11:33 < Teceler> [hugs] 11:33 < Teceler> luck with getting to actual interesting things? 11:33 < Kel> thanks! hopefully will happen eventually! 11:34 -!- Kel is now known as Kelsewhere 11:41 -!- mode/#backstage [+o Sonata] by ChanServ 11:42 -!- Kelsewhere has quit 12:16 -!- FacelessWork has quit 12:37 < Teceler> quiet 12:37 -!- Andygal has joined #backstage 12:37 < Teceler> pfft 12:37 < Teceler> hello Andygal 12:37 < Andygal> Hi. 12:37 < Teceler> I was just commenting that it was quiet in here 12:37 <+MotherStarlight> I'm hunting wabbits. 12:38 < Teceler> pfft 12:38 < Andygal> pfffft 12:50 -!- Kelsewhere has joined #backstage 12:55 -!- FacelessWork has joined #backstage 12:55 < FacelessWork> o/ 12:55 < Teceler> wb 12:55 <@Adelene> o/ 12:56 < Andygal> Hi. 13:07 < FacelessWork> whats up? 13:12 -!- Sonata has quit 13:27 -!- Sky has joined #backstage 13:52 < Teceler> belated hello, Sky 13:53 < Sky> hello 13:53 < Andygal> Hi. 13:59 < FacelessWork> belateder hello, too 14:11 -!- Evenstar has joined #backstage 14:11 * Evenstar waves 14:12 < Andygal> Hi! 14:13 < Teceler> hello Evenstar! 14:14 < Teceler> questions for you! 14:14 * Teceler tries to remember the list 14:16 < Teceler> okay, first, a thing about where the boundry is on OTC-reactions for post I am considering having Niryl make 14:16 < Teceler> which involves large pastes so probably best in #Correspondence 14:19 < Evenstar> Alright! 14:39 -!- FacelessWork has quit 14:47 -!- ferminter has joined #backstage 14:47 < ferminter> hi 14:47 < ferminter> it is me the faceless o/ 14:47 < Andygal> Hi Faceless. 14:47 < Teceler> hello again 14:48 < ferminter> what did I miss? 14:48 < Andygal> fuck all in here. 14:56 -!- PDV has joined #backstage 14:58 < Teceler> hello PDV 14:59 < PDV> hello 15:02 -!- MTC has quit 15:08 < Teceler> brb 15:10 < ferminter> so PDV, remember elemental blessings? :D 15:10 < PDV> *nods* 15:10 * PDV is confused by an unfamiliar username 15:10 < ferminter> Do you have any idea what blessings/elements your character would get? 15:10 < ferminter> it is me, Faceless 15:11 -!- ferminter is now known as FacelessWork 15:14 < PDV> I don't know the blessings terribly well 15:15 < Andygal> they are listed for reference [gdocs link redacted] 15:15 < FacelessWork> yeah 15:15 < FacelessWork> the people in the forum are getting blessed, but I am asking for curiosity 15:17 < PDV> a lot of these things feel like traits that wouldn't tend to be sticky on my characters 15:17 < FacelessWork> too bad :/ 15:17 < FacelessWork> do you have aproimations? 15:17 < FacelessWork> aprox* 15:18 < PDV> Like, there are times when they might apply for a normal drawing, but no birth-blessings feel appropriate. 15:20 < Teceler> bk 15:20 < Teceler> have a thing in 10 minutes or so 15:22 < FacelessWork> good luck with your thing? 15:22 < Teceler> thanks 15:22 < FacelessWork> PDV, not even the elements work? 15:25 < PDV> Arthur could be Hunti or Torz, Suzy could be any of the other three. 15:26 < Teceler> PDV: would it help if you did specific instances of the templates? 15:27 < PDV> If I had 10 copies of each, Suzy would probably be 6/3/1 Elay/Sweela/Coru and Art would be a 6/4 Torz/Hunti split. On average. 15:27 < PDV> Basically it would require a bunch of thought and I'm busy 15:27 < FacelessWork> ah, I didnt want to occupy you 15:28 < FacelessWork> Suzy come off more Coru than 1 out of 10 parts. 15:28 < FacelessWork> and I didnt see much sweela from her, but that could be a lack of opportunity 15:28 -!- Teceler is now known as Teceler|Away 15:29 < PDV> Welce elements just don't cut personality nicely 15:29 < FacelessWork> PDV, shouldnt they at least have talent or creativity among their blessings? 15:29 < FacelessWork> huh 15:29 < PDV> Suzy is emphatically unpassive so Coru is unlikely but possible 15:30 < PDV> But if an instance was more subtle than usual, it could definitely happen; the other three traits are very her-ish 15:30 < PDV> And Suzies aren't very intellectual, but they are the rest of Sweela. And not very abstract, but they are the rest of Elay. 15:31 < FacelessWork> I get the impression that not everyone fits so we have very active corus, introvert sweelas and outspoken huffepuffs 15:31 < FacelessWork> I see your problem... 15:31 < Andygal> Kithabel is a somewhat introverted sweela, but otherwise very very sweela. 15:32 < FacelessWork> kiri 15:32 < FacelessWork> Kiribel is the sweela prime bell 15:32 < Andygal> Right. 15:32 < FacelessWork> kitha is the sorcery bell from the momentum world 15:32 * Andygal fails names forever 15:32 * FacelessWork is not that great with them either 15:34 < FacelessWork> What makes Art not a complete Hunti or Torz? 16:00 -!- FacelessWork has quit 16:14 * Adelene flops into a self-care-ey corner of the internet, decides to share. http://www.thenthdegree.com/proudpoem.asp https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=181Ovx5_Yt0 (These are two instances of the same thing, you probably want to read the first while you listen to the second.) 16:17 -!- tecephone has joined #backstage 16:17 -!- tecephone2 has joined #backstage 16:21 < sigma> Thank you for sharing. 16:21 <@Adelene> ^^ 16:21 < Andygal> <3 16:21 <@Adelene> That one is a favorite. I hadn't poked youtube for instances before, though. Good choice for today. Needed that. 16:22 <@Adelene> (Fucking aspie supremacists. UGH.) 16:22 -!- Sonata has joined #backstage 16:23 < Andygal> Aspie supremacists? 16:23 < Andygal> !! 16:23 <@Adelene> Person I had an appointment with earlier... /might/ not be one? But seemed to fall into the general phenotype anyway. 16:23 <@Adelene> And, just. UGH. 16:24 <@Adelene> (Supremacist vs. 'lower functioning' auties, not vs. NTs. Supremacist vs. NTs is a thing, but much much rarer.) 16:24 < Andygal> Ah. 16:24 < Andygal> Ugh. 16:24 <@Adelene> *nod* 16:25 < Andygal> the idea of high-functioning versus low is deeply flawed anyway. 16:25 <@Adelene> Yep. 16:26 <@Adelene> Even to the degree that it /is/ a thing I kind of identify more with the lower end of the scale, though, too. Like, not in the sense of wanting to have fewer skills than I do? But in the sense of, like, that's who my brain goes 'my people!' when I read their stuff. 16:27 < Andygal> I admire those people a lot, they have to put up with so much shit. 16:29 < Andygal> because people are really terrible sometimes. 16:29 <@Adelene> Like, even beyond autism vs. other disabilities as a category division - I twitched possibly kinda noticeably when my case worker was talking about how Autism Works came to be, apparently it kinda-sorta started off as a mirror of a similar local Down Syndrome thing, and, like - she didn't even /say/ anything about wanting to be separate from them for that reason, but the implication was enough. :P 16:29 -!- Sonata has quit 16:31 < Andygal> I'm not sure what you are saying there? 16:31 <@Adelene> um 16:32 < Andygal> I think I'm missing some context. 16:32 <@Adelene> disability heirarchy is a thing. 16:32 <@Adelene> nobody wants to be associated with the intellectually disabled folks. 16:32 <@Adelene> except, like, me, 'cause I'm weird like that. ^^ 16:32 -!- tecephone2 has left #backstage 16:33 < tecephone> Hereish 16:33 -!- Sky has quit 16:33 <@Adelene> *hug* 16:34 < tecephone> Hug 16:34 < Andygal> why humans, why do you have assholes? 16:35 <@Adelene> *snicker* 16:36 <@Adelene> Anyway - I can deal with this, just. UGH. 16:36 <@Adelene> And thus, self-care. 16:36 < Andygal> (hugs?) 16:36 <@Adelene> *hug* 16:36 < tecephone> Hug 16:37 <@Adelene> (the self-care has been shared and you will see it in the scrollback when you're back at your keyboard, Tec. ^^) 16:37 < tecephone> Noted 16:37 < tecephone> Thanks :-) 16:37 < sigma> *hug*. 16:38 <@Adelene> *hug* :) 16:38 -!- NoFaceNapoleon has joined #backstage 16:39 < NoFaceNapoleon> o/ 16:39 <@Adelene> o/ 16:40 < sigma> Faceless, you arrive with the strangest of names. 16:41 < tecephone> That yeah XD 16:41 < tecephone> Hello again 16:45 < NoFaceNapoleon> hello agian 16:45 < Andygal> Hi. 16:45 < NoFaceNapoleon> mibbit provide random nicknames that are amusing and I tried to add the "faceless" to them when possible 16:45 < NoFaceNapoleon> but this time I had to adapt xD 16:47 < linkhyrule5> Andygal - I am _so tempted_ to make a bad joke about excretion 16:48 < Andygal> ... 16:50 < sigma> Really? My bad joke was about buttsecks. 16:51 < NoFaceNapoleon> huh, what? 16:52 <@Adelene> (8/28/2015 4:34:20 PM) Andygal: why humans, why do you have assholes? 16:52 <@Adelene> In the sense of humanity containing jerks. 16:53 < linkhyrule5> Oh, PDV - have you gotten XAMPP set up? 16:53 < Andygal> and apparently half the chat has the emotional maturity of 10 year olds. 16:53 < linkhyrule5> I am almost at the point I can start tackling Floydian lands again 16:53 < PDV> have not been working on it 16:53 < linkhyrule5> aw 16:53 -!- Sky has joined #backstage 16:54 < PDV> sorry, I got distracted hustling for housing and forgot to come back to anything 16:55 < linkhyrule5> hahah 16:55 < linkhyrule5> fair 16:55 < linkhyrule5> I'll remember to bug you more then :P 16:56 < NoFaceNapoleon> Floydian land? 16:56 < linkhyrule5> (assuming that's not too annoying) 16:56 < linkhyrule5> Floydian Lands 16:56 < PDV> *shrugs* 16:56 * Andygal has to go do a thing. 16:56 < linkhyrule5> it's the web-based IF interpreter we've been making 16:56 -!- Andygal is now known as Awaygal 16:56 < PDV> Honestly, I'm not a PHP guy and it's not the thing I'm most interested in 16:56 < linkhyrule5> well, mostly me, though PDV has been doing some of the server setup 16:56 < linkhyrule5> *nods* 16:56 < PDV> and I think I'd have to learn more of it to do the server proper;y 17:02 -!- Teceler|Away is now known as Teceler 17:02 -!- tecephone has quit 17:03 -!- tecephone has joined #backstage 17:03 -!- tecephone2 has joined #backstage 17:03 < Teceler> ... 17:03 -!- tecephone has quit 17:03 -!- tecephone2 has quit 17:04 < Teceler> there hopefully that sticks 17:06 < NoFaceNapoleon> how is the development of Floydian Lands 17:15 < sigma> Is it floydian 17:22 < linkhyrule5> Page is up, functionality isn't really 17:22 < linkhyrule5> I'll finish setting up the server 17:22 < linkhyrule5> then I'll get a virtual machine over to Teceler 17:22 < Teceler> hm? 17:22 < linkhyrule5> (I had the weirded urge to cal her Teceler-chan, I'm reading too much manga ;P ) 17:22 < linkhyrule5> and she can work on linking the chat and the gargoyle back-end 17:22 < Teceler> pfft 17:22 < linkhyrule5> meanwhile I'll have to figure out how to stream the gargoyle front-end at 1fps 17:22 < Teceler> okay, hopefully I will have enough brain for that 17:23 < linkhyrule5> I mean, this is hardly a "FINISH THIS TODAY NOW NOW NOW" thing 17:23 < linkhyrule5> :P 17:23 < Teceler> XD 17:23 < Teceler> yeah 17:24 < sigma> Sounds like you have a plan! 17:37 -!- Sonata has joined #backstage 17:42 -!- sigma_ has joined #backstage 17:44 -!- sigma has quit 17:47 -!- sigma_ is now known as sigma 17:53 -!- PDV has quit 17:54 -!- PDVanished has joined #backstage 18:02 -!- Kelsewhere is now known as Kelish 18:05 < Kelish> bkish 18:06 < Teceler> welcome back! 18:06 < Kelish> thanks! 18:37 -!- sigma has quit 18:38 -!- sigma has joined #backstage 18:55 -!- Awaygal is now known as Andygal 18:55 < Andygal> Hi. 18:55 < Kelish> Hi! 18:55 < Teceler> welcome back 18:59 <@Adelene> hmmm. hmmmmmmmmm. *pokes food idea* 19:00 <@Adelene> There is a thing one can do with cake, where one makes a boxed cake and pokes a bunch of holes in the top, and then makes jello according to the recipe right up to the point of 'and then let it set for an hour' and pours that into the cake and puts the whole thing into the fridge to set, and it is rather delicious. 19:00 <@Adelene> I wonder if something less dessert-ish can be made similarly with, like, cornbread and some sort of sauce, or something. 19:00 -!- sigma_ has joined #backstage 19:00 <@kappabeta> Nifty. 19:00 < Kelish> ooh 19:01 < Andygal> I have no idea :p 19:02 < sigma_> What's nifty? 19:02 < Kelish> what was the last thing you saw? 19:02 < Kelish> I can PM logs 19:02 -!- sigma has quit 19:02 -!- sigma_ is now known as sigma 19:03 < sigma> Saw Adelene pokes food idea 19:03 <@Adelene> (8/28/2015 7:00:04 PM) Adelene: There is a thing one can do with cake, where one makes a boxed cake and pokes a bunch of holes in the top, and then makes jello according to the recipe right up to the point of 'and then let it set for an hour' and pours that into the cake and puts the whole thing into the fridge to set, and it is rather delicious. 19:03 <@Adelene> (8/28/2015 7:00:37 PM) Adelene: I wonder if something less dessert-ish can be made similarly with, like, cornbread and some sort of sauce, or something. 19:03 < Kelish> sent 19:03 < Kelish> Timing XD 19:03 <@Adelene> heh ^^ 19:03 < Teceler> pft I just sent it too 19:03 < Kelish> heeee 19:03 <@Adelene> do you feel very informed, Sigma? ^^ 19:03 < Kelish> seigema? 19:04 < sigma> I am informed! 19:05 < sigma> I don't recognize the dessert our non-dessert version, but it sounds tasty. 19:06 <@Adelene> The dessert version is definitely tasty. The non-dessert version is only hypothetical so far. 19:09 < sigma> Speaking of tasty plans, did anything yet come of that restaurant design you were discussing on tumblr a while back? 19:10 < sigma> For neurodiversity-friendly dining? 19:10 <@Adelene> Nope. Ended up concluding that it was not realistically doable. 19:10 < Andygal> neurodiversity friendly dining? 19:11 < sigma> Aww. It would have been great for it to be doable. 19:12 <@Adelene> *nod* 19:12 <@Adelene> Apparently running even a regular restaurant is really hard, though. :P 19:12 < Andygal> not surprised. 19:12 < Andygal> so many things to keep track of. 19:13 <@Adelene> *nod* 19:22 < sigma> The design called for features like a way to order without having to talk directly to anyone. 19:22 < Andygal> oooo! 19:22 < Kelish> I think there are restaurants where that is a thing? 19:23 < sigma> I saw that one in action at Popeye's in the Detroit airport. 19:23 < Andygal> it would be useful for me not to have to talk to order, because I have a speech problem and people find it hard to understand me. 19:23 < Kelish> worked by tablets or something? but only in airport 19:24 < sigma> Yeah, tablet kind of screens embedded in the order counter. 19:25 < sigma> And of course takeout pizza can often be ordered with a web interface, or like burritos 19:26 < sigma> It's a start. 19:27 < sigma> I remember another feature was supposed to be more of free refillable drinks that aren't carbonated. 19:28 < Kelish> ooh! 19:30 < sigma> Beyond sodas that's things like powdered lemonade, Kool-Aid, hot tea cold tea sweet tea 19:31 < sigma> I don't know if aguas frescas came up, but I think they'd be a good match for that too. 19:35 < sigma> Horchata, jamaica, tamarindo, and the rare, prized agua piña. 19:35 < Kelish> ... I have never heard of any of those 19:35 < Kelish> are they good? 19:36 < sigma> Here in Washington they're often available with free refills at the more authentic Mexican places. 19:36 < sigma> Horchata is the most popular. It's a sweet cinnamon rice drink. 19:37 < Kelish> I live somewhere with a lot of authentic Mexican places and don't think I've heard of them, but maybe I have and just don't remember 19:37 < Kelish> if I see, would you recommend/ 19:37 < Kelish> *? 19:37 < Kelish> ... also I need to tag 19:37 -!- Kelish is now known as Kelishtag 19:38 < sigma> I recommend horchata, definitely. 19:38 < Kelishtag> ok, I will try it if i see it 19:39 < sigma> I don't like the tamarindo (tamarind drink) or the jamaica (hibiscus drink), but my family like them, so they might be good for when you've tried the horchata and want some variety 19:40 < sigma> I do like the piña (extremely sweet pineapple drink), but most places don't have it. 19:41 < Kelishtag> I mean, I sometimes like water with sugar and salt added so 19:41 < Kelishtag> I will try it! 19:41 < sigma> Hooray, I hope you like it! 19:41 < Kelishtag> :) 20:02 <@Adelene> http://into-the-weeds.tumblr.com/post/127802495189/callout-post-you <3 20:03 < Andygal> <3 20:03 <@Adelene> ^^ 20:04 -!- NoFaceNapoleon has quit 20:24 -!- Facelesskrebbit has joined #backstage 20:25 < Facelesskrebbit> Salutations 20:25 < Andygal> Hi. 20:27 < Facelesskrebbit> how are things? 20:28 < Andygal> fine. 20:28 < Teceler> okay 20:30 -!- Kelishtag is now known as Kelsupper 20:33 < sigma> Things are probably happening 20:33 < sigma> Because that seems to be how time works 20:34 < Facelesskrebbit> this reminds me that once again I want to bring part of the thrilling adventure hour cast to the forum, but it is the part that deals with time travel, which is problematic for a number of reasons 20:35 < Facelesskrebbit> even though they are like... time cops 20:35 * Adelene continues to do recently-triggered self-care stuff, because that. (Not primarily or even necessarily at all because of the earlier #spoilers disussion.) 20:36 * Facelesskrebbit hugs? 20:36 <@Adelene> *hug* 20:36 < sigma> *hug* 20:42 < Facelesskrebbit> I also apologize if I am even just secondarily the cause of triggering stuff, sorry 20:44 <@Adelene> *hug* S'ok. Like, it probably didn't /help/? But it wasn't a big deal and probably didn't make any practical difference. 20:45 < Facelesskrebbit> okay :/ 20:46 <@Adelene> (As near as I can tell this is more that I react kind of badly to victim blaming in some contexts. Because, like. Yeah. That is a thing that happened this morning. Ugh. 20:46 < Teceler> ) 20:46 * kappabeta fetches the poof basket 20:46 < Teceler> [hugs if wanted] 20:46 < Sonata> *offers petting, grooming, soothing noises* 20:48 <@Adelene> *chuckles, hugs* 20:48 <@Adelene> <3 you guys. 20:48 < Sonata> <3 20:48 * Facelesskrebbit offers Tama, the cat to snugle 20:48 * Adelene flops into the forums collective lap. 20:48 <@Adelene> *forum's 20:48 < Facelesskrebbit> xD 20:49 < Sonata> *laps* 20:49 <@Adelene> *giggles* 20:51 <@kappabeta> <3 20:52 <@Adelene> Sonata, did you catch the thing from earlier? Also Kappa, I'm not sure you were here either. 20:52 < Sonata> I might not have 20:52 <@Adelene> (8/28/2015 4:14:01 PM) ***Adelene flops into a self-care-ey corner of the internet, decides to share. http://www.thenthdegree.com/proudpoem.asp https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=181Ovx5_Yt0 (These are two instances of the same thing, you probably want to read the first while you listen to the second.) 20:52 <@kappabeta> <3 20:52 <@Adelene> ^^ 20:53 < Sonata> oooh 20:53 <@Adelene> Yes. <3 20:53 <@Adelene> I do not generally speaking need that exact message? But I do sometimes need to be reminded that there are other people who know it, and today has been one of those days. 20:54 < Sonata> it is a good message and I am glad that it gets spread 20:54 <@Adelene> <3 21:04 <@Adelene> (That poem is kind of... my heart, in a way? I'm not sure I can put it into words properly. Like - be the change you want to see in the world, that thing? This is the change I am.) 21:10 < Teceler> brb 21:16 -!- sigma has quit 21:16 -!- sigma has joined #backstage 21:18 < Teceler> bk 21:19 < Teceler> has anyone heard from Verdancy? 21:20 <@Adelene> Not since (8/27/2015 1:05:29 AM) Verdancy: Anyway. Good night everyone. See you in the morning. 21:20 <@Adelene> AT least here. 21:20 <@Adelene> *At 21:20 < Teceler> hopefully they're just busy 21:21 -!- PDVanished is now known as PDV 21:23 -!- Kelsupper is now known as Kel 21:23 < Kel> There were rolls in the freezer that were in for longer than they were supposed to and they defrosted and toasted to have a texture inside kinda like raw bread dough! :) 21:23 < Teceler> wb Kel! 21:24 < Kel> thanks! 21:24 < sigma> Your freezer has unbaked your bread 21:24 < Kel> XD 21:24 * Kel reads backscroll 21:24 < Sonata> perfectly logical, obviously cold and hot are inverse operations 21:25 < Kel> XD. It was /warm/ though it was nice! 21:27 < Kel> kinda belated but [offer of soft-fuzz and hugs for Ade?] 21:28 <@Adelene> *hug* 21:28 < Kel> [hug] 22:04 -!- sigma_ has joined #backstage 22:04 -!- sigma has quit 22:11 -!- Facelesskrebbit has quit 22:16 < sigma_> Huh, my old instance hasn't timed out yet 22:16 < Kel> mine says it has? 22:17 < Kel> [21:04:00] 22:17 < Kel> * has quit 22:21 -!- sigma_ is now known as sigma 22:22 < sigma> Huh, guess it had and my client's just being weird, now it says there are two of just sigma 22:22 < Sonata> Evenstar, are you here? 22:27 < sigma> Guess she's not _very_ here 22:43 -!- SonaGreen has joined #backstage 22:43 < SonaGreen> neither am I, apparently 22:43 -!- SonaGreen is now known as SonataGreen 22:43 -!- Sonata has quit 22:43 -!- SonataGreen is now known as Sonata 23:11 -!- kappabeta has left #backstage 23:27 -!- Kel is now known as Kelsleep 23:33 -!- Kelsleep has quit 23:48 -!- Sky has quit --- Day changed Sat Aug 29 2015 00:04 -!- MTC has joined #backstage 00:08 -!- PDV has quit 00:10 -!- PDV has joined #backstage 00:21 < Teceler> Sonata, are you still here? 00:21 < Evenstar> I am occasionally drifting into existence. 00:21 < Sonata> yep ello 00:21 < Sonata> Evenstar are you Teceler 00:21 < Teceler> ahahaha 00:21 < Teceler> no Evenstar said something in #Correspondence first 00:21 < Sonata> aha 00:22 < Sonata> anyway Evenstar I wanted to ask you to back up a bit in ahrotan/cat thread because my last post has a broken link 00:22 < linkhyrule5> Oh Evenstar 00:22 < Sonata> (and yours has a pronoun error, for when you retag) 00:22 < linkhyrule5> at some point I/ChibE may write a thing 00:23 < linkhyrule5> and set lyrics to it with Miku 00:23 < linkhyrule5> if i can track down somewhere to (probably illegally >.> ) get the actual Vocaloid software 00:23 < linkhyrule5> what's Miku's opinion of that? 00:23 < Evenstar> Miku is 100% behind this 00:23 < Evenstar> Sonata: Okay! 00:23 < Evenstar> Sonata: Pronoun error? 00:24 < linkhyrule5> Doesn't mind people stealing her voice? 00:24 < linkhyrule5> I'd imagine not because, yannow, that was the original point 00:24 < linkhyrule5> but who knows, people are confusing 00:24 < linkhyrule5> :P 00:24 < Sonata> Evenstar: 'she stares' 00:25 < Sonata> (i think should be 'he stares') 00:25 < Evenstar> oh whoops 00:26 < linkhyrule5> Also, does anyone here play Billy vs. Snakeman 00:26 < Evenstar> (Though that could have been legit) 00:26 < linkhyrule5> or alternatively have watched C:G? 00:26 < linkhyrule5> er 00:26 < linkhyrule5> Code Geass 00:26 < Evenstar> (Because Fallen London is suprisingly good at genders) 00:27 < Andygal> I watched like one episode of code geass a long long time ago. 00:27 < Evenstar> (Options: Male/Female/Person of Mysterious and Indistinct Gender) 00:27 < Evenstar> (And then they did it even better in Sunless Sea.) 00:27 < Evenstar> (Such that your cameo is not determined by that option, nor is your form of address.) 00:28 < Teceler> (I think they just cameo and form of address in SS, actually) 00:28 < Teceler> *just ask for 00:28 < Evenstar> (Ah, that is correct, yes) 00:28 < Evenstar> (It has been a while) 00:28 < Evenstar> (Incidentally I have been distracted by SS) 00:29 < Teceler> (having fun?) 00:29 < Evenstar> (I just purchased a Zeeside Mansion) 00:29 < Evenstar> (:3) 00:29 * Teceler applauds 00:29 < Evenstar> (So yes.) 00:29 < Andygal> I played SS once and died horribly. 00:29 < Teceler> you are expected to die horribly a lot iirc :P 00:29 < Evenstar> Andygal: That is more or less expected. 00:29 < sigma> What is cameo in this context? 00:29 < Evenstar> Sigma: Character portrait. 00:29 < Teceler> um, portrait 00:30 < PDV> I returned to FL and was disappointed that they hadn't added a way to get the Secular Missionary as a Spouse 00:30 * Andygal should try it again sometime... 00:30 * Andygal has several RPGs she would like to finish at some point.. 00:30 < Evenstar> They've added a lot of content to SS since I last played it 00:30 < Teceler> PDV: not yet, although you can upgrade her at the right time of year 00:31 < Teceler> er 00:31 < PDV> upgrade? 00:31 < Teceler> not to a spouse, but to have better stats 00:31 * Andygal is so ADD when it comes to computer games. 00:31 < Teceler> with some story-text 00:31 < sigma> Ok, thanks 00:31 < PDV> Hmm. I don't think I've seen any way to get her as any kind of persistent thing. 00:31 < Evenstar> Andygal: By which you mean you hyperfocus on them and end up missing entire afternoons? 00:31 < Evenstar> :P 00:31 < Sonata> Evenstar: retag, thank you! 00:32 < Teceler> PDV: ... #spoilers 00:32 < Andygal> Evenstar: that too. But I also tend to leave them half finished to play another game. 00:32 < Evenstar> Yep. 00:34 < sigma> Evenstar, you may also want to s/disshivvelled/disheveled/. 00:35 < sigma> Unless you need the version with more shiv. 00:35 < Teceler> XD 00:35 < Andygal> In FL you always need the version with more shiv. 00:35 < Evenstar> lol 00:36 < Evenstar> (fixed) 00:56 -!- Sonata has quit 01:03 < Teceler> ...should have gone to sleep a while ago 01:03 < Teceler> good night all 01:03 < Andygal> goodnight. 01:03 -!- Teceler is now known as Teceler|Asleep 01:05 -!- Evenstar has quit 01:34 < sigma> https://testbed.dreamwidth.org/363.html?thread=135019#cmt135019 haha, the correction 02:57 < Andygal> Night. 02:58 < sigma> Good night Andygal 02:58 < Andygal> (hugs) 02:59 -!- Andygal has quit
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Post by Mother Starlight on Aug 30, 2015 17:23:45 GMT
03:05 -!- linkhyrule5 has quit 03:07 -!- PDV is now known as PDVanished 03:20 -!- PDVanished is now known as PDV 03:21 -!- PDV has quit 03:26 -!- PDV has joined #backstage 03:37 -!- sigma has quit 03:45 -!- PDV1 has joined #backstage 03:46 -!- PDV1 is now known as PDV1anished 03:46 -!- PDV1anished has quit 03:46 -!- PDV has quit 04:19 -!- linkhyrule5 has joined #backstage 04:30 -!- Kelsewhere has joined #backstage 05:34 -!- Kelsewhere has quit 07:46 -!- linkhyrule5 has quit 07:59 -!- kappabeta has joined #backstage 07:59 -!- mode/#backstage [+o kappabeta] by ChanServ 09:04 -!- Kelsewhere has joined #backstage 09:47 -!- FacelessZelda has joined #backstage 09:47 < FacelessZelda> o/ 10:06 -!- Teceler|Asleep is now known as Teceler 10:07 -!- Kelsewhere has quit 10:16 -!- Kelsewhere has joined #backstage 10:44 -!- FacelessZelda has quit 11:18 < Teceler> quiet this morning 11:32 -!- Sonata has joined #backstage 11:45 < Teceler> hello sonata 11:51 < Sonata> hi 11:53 -!- PDV has joined #backstage 12:14 -!- Eva has joined #backstage 12:15 < Eva> Hi again all 12:15 < Teceler> hello Evenstar 12:17 < Eva> So yes Testbed is becoming 'the story of how not to be an OTC operative' 12:17 < Teceler> [hugs for Ingram?] 12:17 < Eva> (Making grilled witness pancakes is not a good plan) 12:18 < Eva> [accepts hugs] 12:18 < Teceler> ...? 12:18 < Teceler> grilled witness pancakes? 12:18 < Eva> Witness is concentrating on fire protection while running away across a firey plain. 12:18 < Eva> Eva trips them. 12:18 < Teceler> ...pft 12:18 < Teceler> yeah I just read the edit 12:18 < Eva> Splat, aieeeeee 12:19 < Eva> (Yep.) 12:19 < Eva> Also, blessingsthread is cool! 12:20 <@kappabeta> why *is* ingram screwing up so bad XD 12:20 < Eva> Because Iam not hundreds of years old :P 12:21 <@kappabeta> eh? 12:21 < Eva> But IC? Because she hasn't been on fieldwork recently and she's rattled from mistake #1 12:21 <@kappabeta> <3 12:21 < Eva> (I am screwing up by not considering things and thus Eva is as well) 12:22 < Eva> (The trouble with running characters with more experience than you :P) 12:22 < Teceler> ah 12:22 <@kappabeta> i mean i generally solve that one using OOC communication and "whoops the character would've thought of that even if I didn't" 12:23 <@kappabeta> but other solutions are also valid 12:23 < Eva> Communication with testbed is slow and I generally prefer to 'yes, and' 12:23 < Eva> or 'yes, but' 12:23 < Eva> (because lack of IRC with testbed) 12:23 -!- PDV has quit 12:24 < Teceler> that makes sense 12:25 < Teceler> oh, Evenstar (why /are/ you nicked as Eva, incidentally?), we should probably work out the plan regarding Ingram and Niryl. Although Verdancy may have input on that too 12:25 < Eva> Oh sorry, it's because I'm not using mibbit and my actual chat client has me set as Eva in this channel 12:26 -!- Eva is now known as Evenstar 12:26 < Evenstar> Fixt. 12:26 < Teceler> fair enough 12:26 < Evenstar> Teceler: Yep. 12:27 < Evenstar> (Who's Writeitdown's author again?) 12:27 < Teceler> Faceless 12:27 <@kappabeta> faceless i think 12:27 < Teceler> iirc 12:27 < Evenstar> I see! 12:28 * Evenstar will have to talk about blessings with them later. 12:29 < Evenstar> I think Lioncourt draws 'Power, Grace, Innovation' but I need to get into specific meanings of the blessings to know for sure :P 12:29 <@kappabeta> what do you mean by specific meanings? 12:29 < Sonata> Evenstar, s/derive/deprive/ 12:29 < Evenstar> Never drink and derive. 12:29 < Teceler> pfft 12:31 < Teceler> okay, so, Lizzie gets to Correspondence in a way that may involve the OTC putting bits of Mozee's cloud (I'm not sure, I don't even know if we've finalized transport arrangements in general, but I think it was Mozee we were going with) 12:31 < Evenstar> (also s/have/gave) 12:32 < Evenstar> Okay, go on 12:32 < Teceler> she gets Niryl protected against mind-affecting stuff, and they get Niryl patched up some. 12:32 < Teceler> I'm not sure when Ingram is going to poke them? 12:33 < Evenstar> None of this seems likely to result in pokes 12:33 < Evenstar> so far 12:33 * Teceler nods. 12:34 < Sonata> Ingram==Eva? 12:34 < Teceler> I think at some point after that Niryl sleeps and pokes the OTC to order some things, unless Lizzie already got everything they might want which I doubt XD 12:34 < Evenstar> Yes, her full name is evangeline Ingram 12:36 < Evenstar> that makes sense 12:37 < Evenstar> AFK a while 12:37 < Teceler> okay 12:37 < Teceler> Sonata, I recall you saying MS can do forum connections over sending stones? 12:38 < Sonata> yes 12:39 < Teceler> okay. I think Niryl will probably want to get a better forum connection that way. (Icly, they will probably pm MS to ask if it is possible. MS's post in OTCthread is a hint that it might be) 12:40 -!- Evenstar has quit 12:48 -!- Eva has joined #backstage 12:48 -!- Sky has joined #backstage 12:48 < Eva> back 12:48 < Teceler> wb 12:49 < Eva> the smoke from oregon's finally clearing here so I will probably go take a walk down to the mailbox soon 12:49 < Eva> (rural mailbox, maybe ~1km roubd trip, 20 min :P) 13:02 < Sonata> MS gave Lady Death a Sending Stone-based connection, I forget if that happened in public 13:02 < Teceler> not that I recall 13:02 < Teceler> Evenstar: okay, so does Niryl being more coherent and order some things from the OTC result in poking? 13:04 < Eva> probably! 13:14 -!- Eva has quit 13:16 -!- omegabeta has joined #backstage 13:25 -!- Xom has quit 13:53 -!- Kelsewhere is now known as Kelish 13:54 < Teceler> Kel! 13:54 < Kelish> Hi! 13:54 < Teceler> hello :) 14:40 * Sonata is bored 14:40 < Kelish> aw 14:40 < Kelish> :( 14:40 < Sonata> there are worse problems to have 14:40 < Kelish> boredom is unfun though 14:40 < Kelish> I am now on FL if that could help with distract? 14:41 < Kelish> *to 14:41 < Sonata> maybe, don't have much actions rn 14:41 < Kelish> yeah, I am currently at none 14:41 < Teceler> hm, question for you, Sonata. Does practicing kinds of magic that count for retroactive mp count as training your mp? 14:41 < Sonata> yes 14:42 < Teceler> okay. and if Carp wasn't a world with its own system would its magic system count as one of those? 14:42 < Sonata> yes 14:43 < Sonata> More specifically, where applicable your mp is related to your skill level in relevant-kinds-of magic. 14:43 * Teceler nods. 14:43 < Teceler> I'm just thinking about what counts for training mp in Eclipse-terms 14:43 < Sonata> so magic practice, retroactive or otherwise, is helpful precisely to the extent that it helps you get more competent. 14:43 < Teceler> ha 14:44 * Teceler nods. 14:44 < Sonata> in Eclipse terms, increasing mp requires spending whatever-they-call-XP. 14:44 < Kelish> it would really suck to be an expert at magic and /then/ get Dungeon magic then? 14:44 * Teceler nods. 14:44 < Teceler> Kelish: no because you get retroactive mp 14:44 < Sonata> because that's how one increases one's stats. 14:44 < Sonata> right 14:44 < Kelish> I thought that was being cancelled in the newest version? 14:44 < Teceler> Sonata: yes but you also have to train the thing before you can spend rez points on it 14:44 < Teceler> Kelish: not for magic experience, just other stuff 14:44 < Sonata> The thing that's being canceled is retroactive credit for harrowing-experiences xp 14:45 < Kelish> ah 14:45 < Teceler> because /someone/ broke it :P 14:45 < Sonata> the benefits of those experiences are now assumed to already be reflected in your existing stats 14:45 < Sonata> and if those existing stats happen to include magic proficiency, good for you. 14:45 < Kelish> ah 14:46 < Kelish> that makes sense! 14:46 * Teceler nods. 14:46 * Sonata remembers that she should actually post that update 14:49 -!- FacelessDude has joined #backstage 14:49 < FacelessDude> Greetings o/ 14:49 < Kelish> Hi! 14:49 < Sonata> hi 14:50 <@Adelene> o/ 14:50 < FacelessDude> Things! How are they? 14:51 < Sonata> slow 14:51 < FacelessDude> huh 14:52 < FacelessDude> Should I create a backstage thread explaining OOC the blessing "mechanics"? 14:53 < Sonata> dunno, is the ic explanation insufficient somehow? 14:53 < Sonata> scattered/incomplete/whatnot 14:55 < FacelessDude> yes-ish? There is some details that are technically "wrong" (in the sense they aren't that inevitable) and it would it would be easier if people could just post the blessings they want there instead of that google doc, methinks 14:56 < Teceler> might be easier for some people, not for all people 14:56 < Kelish> also I still don't know how the blessings for Aspen should work 14:57 < Teceler> how so? 14:57 < Kelish> Aspen was a pretty much completely different person when he was alive 14:57 < Teceler> ah 14:57 < Teceler> hm 14:57 < FacelessDude> huh, I going to post in the "setting information thread" at least there is that for reference 14:58 < Kelish> ok! 14:58 < Teceler> well, you could count 'becoming a mirror' as 'birth' for coin-purposes if that would help? 14:58 < Kelish> XD 14:58 <@kappabeta> "change" seems like a blessing that's relevant for someone who turns into a completely different person 14:59 < Kelish> I don't know the blessing system well enough to guess how it counts dying 14:59 < Kelish> but yeah I was planning that if it was from when he was born 15:00 <@kappabeta> I think it's not designed around the premise that you can die and go on to still have a personality and experience events afterward 15:00 < Teceler> XD 15:00 < FacelessDude> I feel a lot is simply up to you. I mean, /I/ will definitely don't make a fuss if you want to consider his birth or his mirror-transformation 15:00 < Sonata> surprise, patience, change? :p 15:01 < Sonata> ("I predict you will turn into a mirror.") 15:02 -!- MTC has quit 15:03 < Teceler> (pfft) 15:03 < FacelessDude> xD 15:04 < FacelessDude> also "Quinn" is the name of the setting, but where it is coming from? it is the name of the planet? 15:04 < Teceler> 'patience' seems like it might be a good blessing for just-mirror-Aspen. Maybe 'change' too depending on how much of it happens after they are mirrored 15:04 < Kelish> could someone link me to the doc? 15:04 < Teceler> [gdocs link redacted] 15:04 < Kelish> huh 15:04 < Kelish> I was kinda under the impression that "Symmetry" was a blessing 15:04 <@kappabeta> in Welce the year is divided up into five parts and they are each called Quinn[element] 15:05 < Kelish> but apparently not 15:06 < Teceler> hm. kappa, what exactly does 'talent' mean as a blessing? (Thinking about Niryl's again) 15:08 <@kappabeta> to some extent it's a question of what you would like it to mean 15:08 <@kappabeta> but it's like... 15:08 <@kappabeta> it's a sweela blessing so it's about intellectual/creative things? 15:08 * Teceler nods. 15:10 < Teceler> I'm trying to work out to what extent it is a distinct thing from various other sweela blessings. 15:12 < FacelessDude> what is the name of the other blessed country? 15:12 <@kappabeta> elannwy, why? 15:15 < FacelessDude> posting about Quinn in the backstage area 15:18 < Sonata> did you make up elannwy or is it canon 15:26 < FacelessDude> good question 15:26 < FacelessDude> also how far away Elannwy is from Welce? 15:27 < FacelessDude> my version of quinn is slightly more in the future, so it is possible that my characters knows about Elannwy. 15:31 -!- omegabeta has quit 15:38 -!- PDV has joined #backstage 15:43 < FacelessDude> o/ 15:43 < Kelish> hi@ 15:43 < Kelish> *Hi! 15:44 <@kappabeta> I made up Elannwy, it is not canon, I would rather your characters didn't know about it because I haven't decided on all its details yet, it is across an ocean from Welce. 15:46 -!- linkhyrule5 has joined #backstage 15:47 < Kelish> Hi! 15:47 < Teceler> Kelish: tag! 15:48 < Kelish> Yay tag! 15:49 < Teceler> linkhyrule5: you should get caught up on godsfire :P 15:49 < Kelish> brb 15:50 -!- omegabeta has joined #backstage 15:53 -!- omegabeta has quit 15:53 < FacelessDude> Kappabeta, if is that far away then it shouldn't come up 15:53 < Teceler> brb 15:55 < FacelessDude> http://manyworlds.boards.net/thread/54/backstage-condensed-character-setting-properties?page=2&scrollTo=5231 still doing some editing 15:57 < Teceler> bk 15:58 < FacelessDude> wb 15:58 < Teceler> thanks 15:59 < Sonata> it would be nice to have blank lines instead of just linebreaks between paragraphs 16:00 < FacelessDude> I changed it to be a bulleted list 16:28 < Kelish> bk 16:28 < Teceler> wb! 16:28 < Sonata> TOM MORFIN RIDDLE anagrams to DIRE LORD FINTOMM (cf. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_of_Finland) 16:28 < Kelish> thanks! 16:29 < Sonata> TOFMIN 16:29 < Sonata> er, didn't mean to hit enter there, sorry 16:30 < FacelessDude> Eliezer a secret Tom of Finland fanboy? 16:30 < Kelish> what? 16:30 < Kelish> I am confused? 16:31 < Sonata> MOD LORD MINTFIRE 16:31 < Kelish> hee 16:33 < FacelessDude> o.O 16:33 < Sonata> FIRM LORD DOMINET 16:34 <@Adelene> oh nooooooo *giggle* 16:34 < FacelessDude> oh, no, the Firm Lord! 16:36 < Sonata> DIRE LORD MIFMONT is almost non-terrible 16:37 < Sonata> FIRE LORD MIDMONT is almost plausible 16:38 < Sonata> ID: LORD FIRMOMENT 16:38 < Teceler> pfft 16:40 < Sonata> I'M LORD MORDIFENT 16:40 < Sonata> ^actually good 16:41 < Kelish> sounds a little like "More Different" 16:42 < Sonata> (of course, HPMoRt could make people fear "LORD FLUFFY PINK HAMSTER") 16:43 < Kelish> Apostrophe of Darkness 16:44 < FacelessDude> Well, that one had to kill two villages before being taken seriously 16:53 < FacelessDude> https://www.reddit.com/r/FanTheories/comments/3insgr/joker_is_the_hero_in_the_dark_knight/ 16:53 < FacelessDude> kappaaaaa 16:54 < Sonata> in case highlighting is sensitive to word boundaries, kappa 16:55 < Sonata> oh actually kappabeta 16:55 <@kappabeta> hahahahahahahahaha 17:09 -!- Kelish is now known as Kelsewhere 17:21 -!- omegabeta has joined #backstage 17:30 -!- omegabeta has quit 18:09 -!- FacelessDude has quit 18:20 < Sonata> agh why does erc insist on going *** You are no longer marked as being away like four times in rapid succession 18:20 < Teceler> that sound annoying 18:31 -!- PDV has quit 18:39 -!- kappabeta1 has joined #backstage 18:40 -!- kappabeta has quit 18:44 -!- kappabeta1 is now known as kappabeta 18:45 -!- mode/#backstage [+o kappabeta] by ChanServ 19:26 -!- Andygal has joined #backstage 19:28 < Andygal> Hi? 19:28 < Teceler> hello Andygal 19:37 -!- Sonata has quit 20:01 -!- NoFaceMadalynn has joined #backstage 20:02 < NoFaceMadalynn> Greetings 20:02 < Andygal> Hi. 20:02 < Teceler> hello Faceless 20:03 < NoFaceMadalynn> How are you fellow humans o/ 20:03 < Andygal> Fine. 20:06 -!- Sonata has joined #backstage 20:06 -!- mode/#backstage [+o Sonata] by ChanServ 20:07 < NoFaceMadalynn> salutations Sonata 20:07 <@Sonata> hi Faceless 20:07 < Teceler> hello again Sonata 20:07 * Sonata waves 20:07 < NoFaceMadalynn> has Evenstar got in the chat today? 20:07 < Teceler> earlier yeah 20:08 < NoFaceMadalynn> huh 20:08 < NoFaceMadalynn> I need her to send me her character blessings, could someone pass on that to her when she gets back? >.> 20:09 <@Sonata> you might have more luck pming her on the forum? 20:10 < Teceler> probably worth trying that too, yes 20:13 < NoFaceMadalynn> oh, of course 20:13 < NoFaceMadalynn> what is her ooc id? 20:14 < Andygal> EVa 20:19 < NoFaceMadalynn> thanks 20:19 < NoFaceMadalynn> sent 20:19 < NoFaceMadalynn> any speculations what she is going to pick for Lioncourt? 20:20 < Teceler> * Evenstar will have to talk about blessings with them later. 20:20 < Teceler> <Evenstar> I think Lioncourt draws 'Power, Grace, Innovation' but I need to get into specific meanings of the blessings to know for sure :P 20:31 * Teceler considers Niryl's blessings for when they ask 20:31 < Teceler> My possibilities at the moment are persistence/intelligence/creativity, persistence/intelligence/talent, persistence/talent/?. --I am mildly tempted by persistence/talent/love, just because that would freak Niryl out /so much/ 20:32 <@Adelene> *snicker* 20:32 < Teceler> (because /FL/) 20:32 < Andygal> (whatever you do /don't fall in love/ 20:32 < Teceler> ) 20:32 < Teceler> that yes XD 20:34 < NoFaceMadalynn> who is Niryl again? 20:34 < Teceler> my FL-character 20:34 < NoFaceMadalynn> (you people need to add to the wiki!) 20:34 < Teceler> first showed up as spoke-the-thunder 20:34 < NoFaceMadalynn> Fallen London? 20:34 < Teceler> yes 20:34 < Andygal> it's a web game. 20:36 < NoFaceMadalynn> yes it was mentioned here and it seemed quite popular with this crowd 20:36 < Teceler> it appears to be XD 20:36 < Andygal> Yes. 20:39 < NoFaceMadalynn> what is the problem with love? 20:40 < Teceler> um #spoilers 21:45 -!- Verdancy has joined #backstage 21:45 < Verdancy> Hi, everyone. 21:45 < Teceler> Verdancy! 21:46 < Verdancy> Hi Teceler! 21:46 <@Sonata> hi 21:47 < Andygal> Hi! 21:47 <@kappabeta> i think i shall go to bed now. goodnight friends 21:47 <@Sonata> goodnight kappa 21:47 < Teceler> sleep well 21:47 < Verdancy> Good night, Kappa. 21:48 -!- kappabeta has left #backstage 21:48 < NoFaceMadalynn> belated goodnight to kappa 21:48 < NoFaceMadalynn> and hi Verdancy 21:48 < Andygal> bluh. 21:48 < Andygal> missed kappa. 21:49 < Verdancy> Hi! 21:56 < Verdancy> Um. Also I would like to issue a blanket apology to anyone I may have worried while I was gone. I am sorry about that, and in the future even if I can't stay long I will try to pop in and let everyone know I'm okay. 21:56 < Verdancy> So. Yeah. 22:01 <@Sonata> Thanks. 22:03 < Andygal> :) 22:04 < Verdancy> You're welcome? : :) 22:05 < Teceler> (discussion occurring in #Correspondence ) 22:27 -!- Kelsewhere is now known as Kel 22:28 < Kel> bk 22:29 < Teceler> hello Kel! 22:29 < Teceler> or 22:29 < Teceler> well 22:29 < Teceler> welcome back 22:29 < Verdancy> Hi Kel! 22:29 < Kel> thanks! Hi! 22:29 < Verdancy> Welcome back! 22:29 < Kel> Oooh! Verdancy! You too! 22:30 < Verdancy> Hi! 22:31 < Andygal> Hi Kel. 23:07 < Teceler> brb 23:10 < Teceler> bk 23:10 < Kel> wb! 23:10 < Andygal> Hi 23:14 < Verdancy> wb! 23:14 < Verdancy> (belatedly) 23:14 < Teceler> thanks all 23:23 -!- Sky has quit 23:37 < NoFaceMadalynn> anyone still here? 23:37 < Teceler> here 23:37 < Verdancy> yes 23:37 < Teceler> for the moment 23:37 < Verdancy> um 23:37 < Verdancy> discussion is mostly happening in #correspondence 23:41 < Kel> ooh 23:42 < Kel> godsfire tag! 23:42 <@Adelene> *\o/* 23:42 <@Sonata> is #correspondence discussion spoilery for FL? 23:42 < NoFaceMadalynn> you know the whole portalsnake thingie that works as a deux ex machina to justify random sandboxes? 23:43 <@Sonata> yeah? 23:43 < Teceler> Sonata: I will warn if we get spoilery again 23:43 < Verdancy> correspondence discussion has been spoilery sometimes but Teceler has been good about warning 23:43 < NoFaceMadalynn> I though this: how about if a portalsnake fell on Noelle from worm 23:43 < Verdancy> omg no 23:43 < Verdancy> no no no no no 23:43 < Teceler> ... 23:43 < Kel> nooo 23:43 < Teceler> no 23:43 < Kel> .... maybe 23:43 < Teceler> well 23:43 < Kel> sandbox to contain the fire? 23:43 < Andygal> who the fuck is Noelle? 23:43 < Teceler> maybe if the person on the other side could fix the thing? 23:43 < Teceler> but, like 23:43 < NoFaceMadalynn> to be more precise, not that she is going to portal'ed bu 23:43 < NoFaceMadalynn> but like... portal snake clones! 23:43 < Teceler> only of the portal snake was not -- yeah that 23:44 < Kel> Noelle is #spoiler person from worm 23:44 < NoFaceMadalynn> with different transdimensional powers! :D 23:44 < Teceler> --Facless #spoilers 23:44 < NoFaceMadalynn> ops, sorry 23:44 < NoFaceMadalynn> urgh, sorry, sorry 23:44 < NoFaceMadalynn> ok, spoilers then 23:50 -!- PDV has joined #backstage --- Day changed Sun Aug 30 2015 00:01 -!- MTC has joined #backstage 00:04 < Kel> oh I need to sleep 00:04 < Kel> goodnight 00:04 -!- Kel is now known as Kelsleep 00:04 < Andygal> night Kel. 00:05 < Verdancy> .Good night, Kel. 00:05 < Teceler> sleep well 00:05 < Kelsleep> goodnight 00:05 < Kelsleep> thanks you too! 00:05 < NoFaceMadalynn> night 00:05 < NoFaceMadalynn> I should leave too o/ 00:06 < Verdancy> Good night, Faceless. 00:06 < Teceler> sleep well Faceless 00:06 < Andygal> goodness Faceless 00:09 < NoFaceMadalynn> night 00:09 -!- NoFaceMadalynn has quit 00:17 -!- Verdancy is now known as VerdanZzz 00:17 < VerdanZzz> Good night, everyone. 00:17 < Teceler> good night 00:17 < Teceler> I think I will go sleep too, thinking about it 00:17 < VerdanZzz> Good night, MWF. Good night. 00:17 < Teceler> pffft 00:17 < VerdanZzz> :P 00:17 < VerdanZzz> Good night, Teceler-in-particular. 00:17 < Teceler> good night 00:18 < Andygal> goodnight Teceler 00:18 * VerdanZzz snuggles into bed 00:18 * VerdanZzz has fresh clean sheets 00:18 < VerdanZzz> it is nice 00:18 < Andygal> Goodnight moon. 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04:30 -!- Kelsewhere has joined #backstage 05:33 -!- Kelsewhere has quit 07:17 -!- Adelene has quit 07:29 -!- kappabeta has joined #backstage 07:29 -!- mode/#backstage [+o kappabeta] by ChanServ 07:57 -!- Adelene has joined #backstage 07:57 -!- mode/#backstage [+o Adelene] by ChanServ 09:04 -!- Kelsewhere has joined #backstage 09:26 -!- No_Face_Mr_boo has joined #backstage 09:26 < No_Face_Mr_boo> o/ 09:26 -!- No_Face_Mr_boo is now known as Faceless_Mr_Boo 09:27 < Faceless_Mr_Boo> how are things? 10:09 -!- Andygal has joined #backstage 10:09 -!- Teceler|Asleep is now known as Teceler 10:09 < Andygal> Morning. 10:09 < Teceler> morning 10:09 < Faceless_Mr_Boo> morning 10:26 -!- Kelsewhere is now known as Kel 10:26 < Kel> Morning! 10:27 < Teceler> Kel! good morning! 10:27 < Andygal> Morning! 10:28 < Faceless_Mr_Boo> morning 10:28 < Kel> Does anyone know of an elegant way to write out the ʐ (like sh but voiced) sound in plaintext in a way that's easy to read? 10:29 < Teceler> I usually use zh 10:30 < Kel> Okay thanks! (I was thinking about that but wasn't sure if it would come through clearly) 10:31 < Andygal> seems plenty clear to me. 11:31 -!- VerdanZzz is now known as Verdancy 11:31 < Verdancy> Good morning, everyone. 11:31 < Teceler> morning Verdancy! 11:31 < Verdancy> Hi Teceler! 11:31 < Andygal> Morning! 11:31 < Kel> Hi! 11:32 < Kel> Good morning! 11:32 < Verdancy> Hi Kel! Hi Andygal! 11:32 < Verdancy> :) 11:36 -!- Sky has joined #backstage 11:46 < Kel> Hi! 11:46 < Kel> ... belatedly 11:46 < Andygal> Hi. 11:47 < Teceler> brb 11:47 < Verdancy> k 11:50 < Teceler> bk 11:50 < Verdancy> wb! 11:50 < Andygal> wb! 11:50 < Teceler> thanks 11:51 < Verdancy> :) 12:03 -!- Faceless_Mr_Boo has quit 12:06 < Teceler> (Andygal, anyone else interested, discussion is happening in #Correspondence ) 12:10 -!- Sonata has joined #backstage 12:10 -!- mode/#backstage [+o Sonata] by ChanServ 12:10 -!- Sonata has left #backstage 12:17 -!- Sonata has joined #backstage 12:17 -!- mode/#backstage [+o Sonata] by ChanServ 12:18 <@Sonata> oh dear, looks like MS had a problem 12:18 -!- You're now known as MotherStarlight 12:19 <@Sonata> ah, looks like it was just a netsplit. 12:21 -!- mode/#backstage [+v MotherStarlight] by Sonata 12:34 <@Sonata> Need a new emoticon? Why not Zoidberg? (V) (;,,;) (V) 12:35 < Verdancy> ...Zoidberg? 12:35 < Andygal> You have not seen Futurama? 12:36 < Verdancy> oh 12:36 < Verdancy> I actually haven't 12:36 < Verdancy> But pop culture osmosis 12:42 -!- Kel is now known as Kelsewhere 12:43 < Verdancy> Bye? Good luck? 12:43 < Andygal> Later kel. 12:43 < Teceler> luck Kel? 12:46 -!- Evenstar has joined #backstage 12:47 < Evenstar> Hi all! 12:47 < Teceler> hello Evenstar! 12:48 < Andygal> Hi Evenstar 12:48 < Teceler> come to #Correspondence 12:49 < Verdancy> Hi Evenstar! 12:49 < Evenstar> Hi! 13:25 -!- PDV has joined #backstage 13:30 < Andygal> Hi? 13:30 < Teceler> hello PDV 13:30 < PDV> hi 13:31 < Verdancy> Hi PDV! 13:32 -!- FacelessDude has joined #backstage 13:39 < Andygal> Hi. 13:39 < Teceler> hello Faceless 13:39 < Verdancy> Hi Faceless! 13:39 < FacelessDude> OPS 13:39 < FacelessDude> oh, ops 13:40 < FacelessDude> sorry got distracted 13:40 < FacelessDude> hi everyone 13:41 < Andygal> most chat is in #correspondence right now 13:53 < FacelessDude> question what is the average gameplay time for FL? 13:53 < Teceler> Faceless, we are doing out best to warn when we are about to go into spoilers 13:54 < Teceler> (the question re: spoilers was confusing, sorry) 13:54 * Verdancy nods 13:54 < Verdancy> um 13:54 < Verdancy> I think 13:54 < Teceler> hm? 13:54 < Verdancy> Fallen London might be a bit like Skyrim 13:54 < Verdancy> in terms of average gameplay time 13:54 < Teceler> ah, yeah 13:55 < Teceler> it's got... a lot of story 13:55 < Verdancy> that is something of an understatement but yes 13:55 * Teceler giggles. 13:55 < FacelessDude> ah, lots of optional content that you migh want to play more than the main one? 13:55 < Teceler> um 13:55 < FacelessDude> (has never played Skyrim) 13:55 < Teceler> no not really 13:55 < Teceler> like 13:55 < Teceler> [words] 13:56 < Andygal> it doesn't really have a single "main" story. 13:56 < Teceler> yeah that 13:56 < Teceler> it's kind of an ongoing thing, too 13:56 < Teceler> content updates appear now and then 13:56 < PDV> you can choose between four personal arc plots 13:56 < Teceler> ? 13:56 < Teceler> oh the ambitions? 13:56 < PDV> your 'Ambition' 13:57 < Teceler> yeah those are the closest thing to a main storyline 13:57 < Teceler> that and a little the progressions on each of the main stats 13:57 -!- Kelsewhere is now known as Kelish 13:57 < PDV> And you can't spend more than about 10% of your time on your ambition, probably. It just provides milestones. 13:58 < FacelessDude> huh 13:58 < FacelessDude> So not even playing the game for a reasonable ammount of time means that you are free from spoilers? 13:58 < PDV> Nope 13:59 < Teceler> eventually you mostly hit endgame, but, yeah 13:59 < PDV> There is content that's inaccessible until you hit stats >500 13:59 < PDV> not much, but some 13:59 < Teceler> ... ? 13:59 < Teceler> PDV I'm pretty sure that's literally impossible 13:59 < Teceler> like, 310 ish is the highest you can get with boosts and all 14:00 < PDV> I thought they'd removed the caps? And it's on the wiki. 14:00 < Teceler> um 14:00 < Teceler> link? 14:00 < Teceler> (link to the thing, not linkhyrule5) 14:01 < Teceler> also, main stats still cap at 200 14:01 < PDV> http://fallenlondon.wikia.com/wiki/Establish_a_Parabolan_Base-Camp, http://fallenlondon.wikia.com/wiki/Locate_an_Impossible_Theorem 14:01 < Teceler> Parabolan Base-Camp is also Impossible! 14:02 < Teceler> as in, that content is not available yet 14:02 < Teceler> but also 14:02 <@kappabeta> and it seems like it's not "locked until 500" 14:02 < Teceler> the 500 is more: this is when you have a 50% chance of success I think 14:02 < PDV> yeah, I misremembered that somewhat 14:02 < Teceler> I do not have 500 watchful and I've gotten an impossible theorum from there 14:03 < Teceler> oh, no 60% chance of success, apparantly 14:04 < FacelessDude> urgh, you guys are making me curious to play it, is that your goal? u.u 14:04 < Teceler> XDXDXD 14:04 < PDV> And there is currently only a soft cap on stats. You just need a bunch of Notability to get past 200. 14:05 < Teceler> PDV: no, it's hard cap 14:05 < Teceler> you can boost up to 215 with enough Notability 14:05 < Teceler> but you can't get any further 14:05 < Evenstar> Facelessdude do you exist? 14:05 < FacelessDude> Evenstar, just let me check 14:06 < Evenstar> hee 14:06 < FacelessDude> huh, I appear to have a body and a reflex in the mirror 14:06 < Evenstar> Are you Curiousdiscoverer on Alicorn? 14:06 < FacelessDude> and people react when I speak 14:06 < FacelessDude> no, I am bluelantern on alicorn and I am curiousdiscoverer on MWF 14:06 < FacelessDude> xD 14:06 < Evenstar> lol 14:06 < PDV> TOO MANY NAMES 14:06 < PDV> I NEED A CHART 14:06 < Evenstar> In any case you are blessingsperson :P 14:06 < Kelish> FacelessDude, a warming about FL 14:07 < Kelish> there are a limited number of actions that can be taken over an amount of time 14:07 < FacelessDude> Evenstar: the very same! 14:07 < Kelish> there is a cap of 20 actions, and you replenish one action every 10 minutes 14:07 < Evenstar> (They doubled storage a while ago) 14:07 < Teceler> (It used to be 10 actions) 14:07 < Evenstar> (It used to be 10) 14:07 < Teceler> pfft 14:07 < Kelish> and when you run out, you pretty much can't do anything 14:07 < Kelish> augh. 10. 14:07 < Teceler> but, like 14:07 < Evenstar> Chimes access doubles your cap but costs real money. 14:08 < Evenstar> (It also has some nice side content) 14:08 < Teceler> Exceptional Friendship, yeah 14:08 < Teceler> Evenstar do you know about the monthly Exception Friend stories? 14:08 < Evenstar> (Up to you wether you're an Exceptional Friend) 14:08 < Evenstar> I have seen that this is now a thing! 14:08 < FacelessDude> evenstar, you wanted blessings? 14:08 < Teceler> anyway action cap means it tends to be better to treat it as a background thing 14:08 < PDV> to be fair, when storage was 10 you could get a free refresh by tweeting 14:09 < Evenstar> Yes! 14:09 < Teceler> PDV: no, there was a time in btween that 14:09 < Teceler> and the 20-cap 14:09 < Evenstar> I am Ingram and Lioncourt. 14:09 < PDV> Oh, k. I was gone for that. 14:09 < Kelish> Oh! Question about blessings: I /still/ don't know when Aspen's blessings are from 14:09 < Evenstar> PDV: There's also Darkdrop Coffee on occasion 14:10 < FacelessDude> Evenstar, do you have your blessing picked? 14:10 < Teceler> Kel: I think the answer is whichever works better for you 14:10 < Evenstar> And a few other limited opportunities. 14:10 < Evenstar> FacelessDude: I'd like some clarification on blessing-meanings first 14:10 < Kelish> ... I don't actually /know/ which works better. Imma go stare at blessings 14:10 < Evenstar> like, what's the difference between Endurance and Steadfastness, etc 14:11 < FacelessDude> They are supposed to be pretty vague 14:11 < Evenstar> Ah, I see 14:11 < Evenstar> Also what's with 'Hunti with a heart of X'? 14:11 < FacelessDude> and I got the impression that the difference is that "One is torz and the other is Hunti" is a valid answer 14:11 < FacelessDude> also, I got the impression that being steadfast is more... active than being enduring? 14:12 < Andygal> endurance is enduring hardship, steadfastness is like, sticking to things? 14:12 < Evenstar> Okay 14:12 < Kelish> (like a gecko!) 14:12 < FacelessDude> and "heart" is more like, how you are to people that know you 14:12 < Andygal> kappabeta? 14:12 <@kappabeta> mm? 14:13 < Evenstar> I think Lioncourt draws... Grace, Power, Innovation. But then she has three blessings from three different elements. Is that a thing that happens? 14:13 < FacelessDude> Kappabeta, blessing doubts 14:13 <@kappabeta> that certainly is a thing that happens 14:13 < Andygal> Evenstar: I think so yeah. 14:13 < FacelessDude> evenstar, yeah 14:13 < Teceler> Evenstar: yeah 14:13 < Evenstar> Then how do people know if she's Hunti, Elay or Sweela? :P 14:13 < Teceler> that's more a personality thing? 14:14 <@kappabeta> what element you are is separate from what your birth blessings are 14:14 < Evenstar> Okay 14:14 <@kappabeta> there's a vague correlation but no more than that 14:14 < FacelessDude> the true elemental affiliation is very about her "true" personality in the inside, I think 14:14 < Teceler> you can't necessarily tell just based on birth-blessings 14:15 < Evenstar> Makes sense! 14:15 < Evenstar> As for Ingram... if she doesn't draw Surprise I will be. 14:15 < Teceler> XD 14:15 < Kelish> XD 14:16 < FacelessDude> Lioncourt sounds Sweela-ish to me, but that might just be my interpretation? 14:16 < Evenstar> I'd expect... Suprise, Change, Imagination. 14:16 < FacelessDude> very Coru? 14:16 < Evenstar> I think Lioncourt is a Sweela trying to be Hunti. 14:17 < Andygal> Sweela with a crown of Hunti? 14:17 < Evenstar> Something like that! 14:17 <@kappabeta> depending on the details of "trying to be", it may or may not be a crown 14:18 < FacelessDude> crown is generally how you are perceived? albeit it also represents osme of your traits, heart is about how you act with people that know you better, but the "true" affiliation is how you are inside? 14:18 < Teceler> well 14:18 < FacelessDude> Evenstar, do you want to post those blessings? 14:18 < Teceler> heart is kinda a secondary affiliation that only shows up to people you are close to? 14:18 < Teceler> crown may or may not be a secondary affiliation but is how you are percieved 14:18 < Teceler> iirc 14:19 < Evenstar> Kumi probably draws Surprise, Flexibility, Joy. 14:19 <@kappabeta> crown is how you are superficially perceived 14:19 < Evenstar> Crown of Hunti is probably correct then. 14:19 <@kappabeta> heart is "this isn't your most closely associated element, but it is a *significant* association" 14:20 < Andygal> that is not immediately obvious? 14:20 <@kappabeta> yes 14:20 <@kappabeta> people *usually* don't have both a crown and a heart of the same element 14:21 <@kappabeta> exceptions: Ekador Serlast's sweela problem 14:21 < Verdancy> pfft 14:21 < Evenstar> lol 14:21 < Teceler> pfffft 14:21 < Andygal> lol 14:21 < FacelessDude> Ekador is both Sweela Crown and Heart? 14:22 <@kappabeta> yes 14:22 < Andygal> he looks like a huge nerd, and it turns out he secretly actually is a huge nerd? 14:22 < FacelessDude> huh, I picturing his woody hunti core on fire 14:22 <@kappabeta> hahahahaha 14:22 < Evenstar> Dr. Realist doesn't believe in Blessings, but if he had them... 14:22 < FacelessDude> that neeeerd 14:22 < Teceler> crown and heart of different elements is not a unusual thing, though? 14:22 < Teceler> Evenstar: pffft 14:23 < Evenstar> Certainty, Honesty, Vision. 14:23 <@kappabeta> *In Welce*, crowns and hearts are each *fairly* unusual and the combination is more unusual still 14:24 <@kappabeta> people who did not grow up in Welce and/or whose templates did not form there tend to be less neatly categorized elementally, though 14:24 < FacelessDude> that isnt some kind of magical brainwshing from the blessings, right? 14:24 < Andygal> Except for Kiribel apparently. 14:25 <@kappabeta> "tend to be" does not mean "are invariably". 14:25 < Evenstar> I think that you can tell something about whether a candidate is an Eva by whether they have Surprise in their blessings. 14:25 < Andygal> XD 14:25 < Evenstar> If they don't have it they are probably not an Eva. :P 14:25 <@kappabeta> It's not magical brainwashing; I think it's more just the fact that people raised in a culture tend to express themselves in terms of that culture? 14:25 < FacelessDude> ah, I figured that was likely 14:26 < Evenstar> I wonder what Jinx draws... 14:27 < Andygal> Surprise! 14:27 < Teceler> XD 14:27 < Teceler> so much surprise 14:27 < Evenstar> Surprise is probably in there :P 14:27 < Evenstar> Can you get multiples? :P 14:27 < FacelessDude> yup 14:28 < FacelessDude> Matilda is aparently inteligence, inteligence, inteligence 14:28 < Evenstar> So she /could/ actually draw 'surprise, surprise, surprise' 14:28 < Kelish> at that point it sounds sorta sarcastic though 14:28 < Andygal> pffft 14:28 < Evenstar> Lol 14:28 < Verdancy> pfft omg 14:29 < Evenstar> I suspect that she might draw 'Surprise, Surprise, Triumph/Power'. 14:29 <@Sonata> I feel like Jinx should get Joy 14:29 < Evenstar> Oh, that is a good point 14:29 < Evenstar> Suprise, Joy, Power/Triumph 14:30 < Evenstar> ... Mm, power is maybe not right. 14:30 <@Sonata> otoh Surprise, Change, Luck? 14:30 -!- sigma has joined #backstage 14:30 < Evenstar> Ooh. I think I prefer Suprise, Luck, Joy. 14:30 < Teceler> hello sigma 14:30 < sigma> Hi 14:30 < Andygal> Hi 14:30 < Kelish> hi! 14:30 <@Sonata> btw Evenstar cattag 14:30 <@Sonata> hi sigma 14:30 < Evenstar> Thanks! 14:31 < Evenstar> Sonata: By the way, Ahrotahn has just run smack into one of the issues with BT 14:31 < FacelessDude> hi sigma 14:31 <@Sonata> oh? 14:31 < Evenstar> And that is 'not phrasing your question appropriately.' 14:31 < Verdancy> Hi Sigma! 14:31 < Verdancy> Evenstar: oh, dear 14:31 < Kelish> BT? 14:31 < Andygal> Buddhitanka 14:31 < Evenstar> The BT has given her what she asked for - 'What she's missing', IE a complex solvable puzzle. 14:31 < Verdancy> Buddhitanka 14:31 < Verdancy> pfft ninja'd 14:32 < Evenstar> Which is incidentally not at all related to the mirror thing :P 14:32 < sigma> Hi faceless, Verdancy, all! 14:32 < Andygal> XD 14:32 < Kelish> XD 14:32 < Kelish> hahahaha 14:32 < Kelish> [hugs for Ahrotahn?] 14:32 < Teceler> pffffffffft 14:33 < Andygal> how long is she going to beat her head against a wall before she gives up? 14:33 < Evenstar> Well the thing is this puzzle will let her progress :P 14:33 < Evenstar> It'll give her a nice useful reward for finishing it too! 14:33 < Teceler> pfffft 14:33 < Evenstar> But it's totally unrelated to neathy mirrors :P 14:33 < Teceler> I'm not sure that's a 'problem' with -- ah 14:33 < Teceler> XD 14:36 <@Sonata> Andygal, I dunno! Until she runs out of ideas for things to try, I guess. 14:36 < Teceler> XD 14:36 < Andygal> XD 14:39 < Evenstar> Sonata: Tag 14:39 < Evenstar> (Ahrotahn is going to be on familiar ground here :P) 14:40 < Teceler> brb 14:41 <@Sonata> eeeee 14:42 < Verdancy> awwww 14:42 < Evenstar> :3 14:43 < Teceler> bk 14:44 < Verdancy> wb! 14:44 < Kelish> OOOOOO Evenstar! 14:44 < Kelish> That is the Room! 14:44 < Kelish> :D 14:44 < Evenstar> (Aw, someone caught me cribbing!~) 14:45 < Kelish> XD 14:45 < Evenstar> (But /yes/ it is. Or at least /similar/.) 14:45 < Kelish> (... sorry if it was a secret) 14:45 < Evenstar> (I'm stealing the puzzles but not the plot.) 14:45 < Kelish> ok 14:45 < Evenstar> (At least, not /all/ of the plot.) 14:45 < Kelish> I have only played the first one 14:45 < Evenstar> (:P) 14:45 < Kelish> XD 14:46 <@Sonata> Tag 14:46 < Evenstar> (I've already done some editingand will continue to do more) 14:46 * Sonata does not recognize the puzzle 14:52 < Evenstar> (Yay!) 14:52 < Evenstar> Tagged, Sonata. 15:03 <@Sonata> tag, Evenstar 15:06 < Andygal> facelessDude: typo in latest blessing post, "Grance" 15:07 < FacelessDude> fixed 15:07 -!- MTC has quit 15:09 -!- ErinFlight has joined #backstage 15:09 < ErinFlight> So I heard you guys play Fallen London 15:09 < Teceler> hello ErinFlight 15:09 < FacelessDude> o/ 15:09 < ErinFlight> Hey :) 15:09 < Verdancy> Hi! 15:09 < Kelish> Hi! 15:10 < sigma> Hello! Welcome! 15:10 < ErinFlight> Thanks! 15:10 < sigma> Was Lioncourt blessed with grimedance music, that's a weird blessing 15:11 < sigma> Grace is much more usual 15:11 < Andygal> HI Erinflight 15:11 < Andygal> FL related disussion taking place in #correspondence 15:11 <@Sonata> ErinFlight, https://etherpad.net/p/glowinglondon 15:12 < sigma> ...Do you get typoed blessings, where part of the symbol wears off and it looks like something else? 15:12 < Andygal> also that yes. 15:14 < FacelessDude> sigma, it was a combination of grace and dance 15:14 < FacelessDude> not sure what grimedance is 15:15 < sigma> I don't either, I pulled it from Urban Dictionary 15:15 -!- ErinFlight1 has joined #backstage 15:15 < ErinFlight1> Thanks for link! 15:16 < Kelish> brb tea 15:16 < Verdancy> enjoy tea! 15:17 < Teceler> Kel: tag 15:20 < Evenstar> Tag, Sonata 15:22 <@Sonata> tag, Evenstar 15:24 < Andygal> awwwww Thorn 15:25 < Teceler> :) 15:26 < Evenstar> Tag, Sonata 15:29 <@Sonata> Evenstar, s/keyhold/keyhole/ 15:29 < Evenstar> oops 15:29 -!- ErinFlight1 has quit 15:29 < Evenstar> fixt 15:30 <@Sonata> tag 15:30 <@Sonata> ^_^ 15:34 < Evenstar> Sonata: Tag! 15:44 <@Sonata> Evenstar: tag! 15:44 <@Sonata> ~eeeee~ 15:50 < Evenstar> Tag, Sonata! 15:50 < Kelish> bk 15:51 < Verdancy> wb! 15:51 < Teceler> wb 15:52 <@Sonata> Evenstar: tag! 15:54 < Evenstar> Sonata: Tag! 15:54 < Evenstar> Actually that is a dumb question 15:55 < Evenstar> She will probably try both 15:56 <@Sonata> I managed to miss that there were two, I need to reading comprehension better. 15:56 <@Sonata> and yes, she'd look at both. 15:57 <@Sonata> do you want to edit or should I just go from there or what? 15:57 < Evenstar> Tag, Sonata. 15:57 < Evenstar> Fixed. 15:58 <@Sonata> Tag. 16:01 < Evenstar> Tag, Sonata 16:01 < Kelish> ... are you actually going to do the entire puzzle of The Room? 16:02 < Evenstar> It /is/ rather long, but I am fine with running it :P 16:02 < Evenstar> Especially with edited lore. 16:02 < Kelish> ah 16:02 <@Sonata> I am enjoying myself immensely; also, tag. 16:02 < Kelish> it is a fun game 16:03 < Evenstar> Tag, Sonata 16:05 <@Sonata> tag, Evenstar 16:07 < Evenstar> Tag, Sonata 16:08 < Evenstar> (BT giving a nudge here to say 'that isn't important') 16:08 < Kelish> (I spent /so long/ at the beginning trying to investigate the rest of the room) 16:09 <@Sonata> tag, Evenstar 16:10 < Evenstar> Tag, Sonata 16:13 < Verdancy> Hey, Evenstar 16:13 < Verdancy> If Lizzie asks the OTC for a price quote on gardening services 16:13 < Verdancy> Can she then derive the number of cowplants from that 16:14 < Verdancy> (She does not icly know how many there are) 16:14 < Verdancy> ? 16:14 < Teceler> XDXDDX 16:14 < Teceler> *XDXDXD 16:14 < Verdancy> pfft 16:14 < Teceler> well, how many are there? 16:14 < Kelish> at least 3? 16:14 < Verdancy> A few hundred. 16:14 < Teceler> ... 16:14 < Teceler> meep 16:14 < Kelish> I was right! 16:14 <@Sonata> Evenstar: tag 16:14 < Verdancy> pfft XD Kel 16:15 < Kelish> how many people are keeping them just as pets though? 16:15 < Teceler> she can probably at least derive the /scale/ from that! 16:15 < Verdancy> and yep, meep 16:15 < Teceler> um 16:15 < Teceler> she is excluding minicowplants there, right? 16:15 * Verdancy nods 16:15 < Verdancy> there isn't a major difference between mini and full-sized because there's growth serum going around 16:15 * Teceler nods. 16:15 < Verdancy> Kel: not that many, but 16:15 < Verdancy> she is not going to try to exclude them 16:16 < Kelish> :( 16:16 < Teceler> ah 16:16 < Verdancy> yeah. sorry. 16:16 < Teceler> because they could still kill people? 16:16 < Verdancy> yep. 16:17 < Verdancy> oh fuck I just thought of something 16:17 < Kelish> ? 16:17 < Verdancy> they probably have /samples/ 16:17 < Verdancy> that they can use to clone cowplants 16:17 < Verdancy> ugh 16:17 < Teceler> of? 16:17 < Teceler> --oh 16:17 < Teceler> oh dear 16:17 < Teceler> and Lizze would think of that? 16:17 < Teceler> I assume? 16:17 < Verdancy> ...she probably would 16:17 < Verdancy> because she clones things /all the time/ 16:18 < Teceler> [nodnod] 16:18 <@Sonata> and you can probably keep samples in your /inventory/, where nobody can get at it 16:18 < Evenstar> Tag, Sonata 16:18 <@Sonata> so they can just bide their time 16:18 < Verdancy> ...it might not occur to her until a dramatic moment 16:18 < Verdancy> Sonata: yuuuuuup 16:19 < Verdancy> so much for taking out their murderweapons in one fell swoop 16:19 < Verdancy> hmm 16:19 * Verdancy plots 16:19 * Kelish has at least two characters who could plausibly engineer a plague? 16:20 < Kelish> if that helps? 16:20 < Verdancy> heeee 16:20 < Verdancy> it might! 16:20 < Teceler> well 16:20 < Teceler> she can always do the thing she's doing to get her mother's urn back, until there are no samples around any more? 16:20 < Verdancy> yeppppp 16:20 < Verdancy> that is a moderately extreme option 16:20 < Teceler> also no growth serum 16:21 < Verdancy> that too! 16:21 < Teceler> or she can set something up to immediately destroy and cowplant that starts existing 16:21 < Verdancy> aka plague 16:21 < Verdancy> probably 16:21 < Verdancy> ...this probably ends with her semi-officially conquering the town 16:21 < Teceler> pffft 16:21 < Andygal> Ha. 16:22 < Verdancy> Oh! 16:22 <@Sonata> Evenstar, tag 16:22 < Verdancy> That reminds me! 16:22 < Verdancy> A while ago I was talking about Anda and Linsa's inevitable accidental conquest 16:22 < Verdancy> and I said they were pulling a Bell 16:22 < Verdancy> that is incorrect! 16:22 < Verdancy> They were pulling a /Reko/ 16:23 <@Sonata> I forget who Reko is, is that a Gregor because Kirovalin 16:23 < Verdancy> yes! 16:23 < Verdancy> right sorry 16:23 < Andygal> Bells tend to take over on /purpose/ 16:23 < Verdancy> They were pulling a Gregor, them 16:23 * Verdancy nods 16:23 < Verdancy> that is why it was an incorrect analogy! 16:23 < Teceler> a Kiro? 16:23 <@Sonata> oh, is Reko the Cotton Candy Land one with the halfcrown 16:23 < Verdancy> yes that 16:23 < Verdancy> he is 16:24 < Verdancy> I mixed them up sorry 16:24 < Teceler> Verdancy: does she even have a enough to pay the OTC to 'fertilize' all the cowplants there already are? 16:24 < Teceler> wait silly question 16:24 < Verdancy> I think so, let me math and make sure 16:25 < Verdancy> well I mean plausibly she could have not thought she'd need that much 16:25 < Verdancy> in which case give her a couple minutes and she'll fix that 16:25 < Teceler> yeah but she can make more if she needs to XD 16:25 < Teceler> XD 16:25 < Verdancy> yuuuup 16:25 < Verdancy> I am going to math anyway one sec 16:26 < Evenstar> Tag, Sonata 16:26 < Teceler> Evenstar there was a question for you 16:26 < Teceler> <Verdancy> Hey, Evenstar 16:26 < Teceler> <Verdancy> If Lizzie asks the OTC for a price quote on gardening services 16:26 < Teceler> <Verdancy> Can she then derive the number of cowplants from that 16:26 < Teceler> <Verdancy> (She does not icly know how many there are) 16:27 < Evenstar> Possibly, but the OTC will charge her for it if they catch her using them as an information gathering service. 16:27 < Verdancy> pfft hee 16:27 < Teceler> XD 16:28 < Kelish> Evenstar and Sonata, there is a video of the puzzle that is currently being worked on if that would help for visualization? 16:28 < Kelish> but it is also solutions and spoilers 16:29 < Evenstar> Kelish: No thanks, please. 16:29 -!- FacelessDude has quit 16:29 < Kelish> ok 16:29 < Evenstar> I'm certain such things do exist and I am deliberately not using them. 16:30 < Evenstar> (Such that my modifications are less detectable.) 16:30 < Evenstar> :P 16:30 < Kelish> Ok 16:32 -!- ErinFlight has quit 16:37 <@Sonata> Evenstar: tag 16:38 < Evenstar> Tag, Sonata 16:43 -!- ErinFlight has joined #backstage 16:43 < ErinFlight> Hey! Is there an index of threads? 16:44 < Verdancy> https://etherpad.net/p/MWFOpenThreads 16:44 < Verdancy> I think that is all of them? 16:44 < Teceler> all the open ones 16:44 < Kelish> just the open ones 16:44 < Teceler> not finished ones I think 16:44 < Kelish> Timing 16:44 < Teceler> XD 16:45 < Verdancy> well 16:45 < Verdancy> also 16:45 < Verdancy> https://glowfic.dreamwidth.org/ 16:45 < Verdancy> and 16:45 < Verdancy> http://manyworlds.boards.net/thread/80/backstage-leafy-glowfic-index 16:45 < Kelish> hm 16:45 < Kelish> the glowfic one doesn't really have an /index/ 16:46 < Verdancy> yes 16:46 < Verdancy> we should fix that 16:46 < ErinFlight> Thank you! 16:46 <@Sonata> tag, Evenstar 16:47 < ErinFlight> Also, is there a chat list? Because I just lost the FL one 16:47 < Kelish> chat lits? 16:47 < Teceler> #Correspondence 16:47 < Kelish> *list? 16:47 <@Sonata> a list of channels we use? 16:47 <@Sonata> seems potentially useful 16:47 < Kelish> is backstage meta still a thing? 16:48 < ErinFlight> It could be, it would be easy to forget the names 16:48 -!- PDV is now known as PDVanished 16:49 < Kelish> it looks like not 16:49 < Kelish> pretty much 16:49 < Teceler> yeah I think not 16:50 <@Sonata> ? 16:50 < Evenstar> tag, Sonata 16:51 < Evenstar> ? 16:51 < Teceler> Sonata: um. thanks for the Starveling Cat? 16:52 <@kappabeta> ooh, starveling cats 16:52 <@Sonata> I didn't know what was in it, I just got a box from somewhere and passed it on 16:52 <@kappabeta> does this mean you have a spare now, tec? 16:52 < Teceler> I just asked you in #Correspondence if you still needed one! 16:53 < Teceler> this is on my alt, actually, but, yeah 16:55 -!- ErinFlight has quit 16:56 <@Sonata> Evenstar: tag 16:57 < Teceler> kappabeta: sent 16:57 <@kappabeta> omg the message text <3 16:57 < Teceler> :) 16:57 <@kappabeta> For you: Starblade wishes you to look after this deranged and monstrous clot of spitting mangy fur. 16:57 <@kappabeta> "Good luck recovering your soul from this monster :P" 16:57 <@kappabeta> omg <3 16:57 < Teceler> :) 16:58 < Kelish> XD 16:59 < Verdancy> pfft aww 16:59 < Verdancy> Um, hey, Evenstar 16:59 < Evenstar> Verdancy: ? 16:59 < Verdancy> I'm looking for the price of the OTC currency meter 16:59 < Evenstar> 10 of whatever currency you wish to dowse. 17:00 < Verdancy> is that every time? 17:00 < Evenstar> That's for 'buy a currency meter'. 17:00 * Verdancy nods 17:00 < Evenstar> Usage is free. 17:00 < Verdancy> that makes more sense 17:00 < Teceler> XD 17:00 < Teceler> yeah 17:01 < Teceler> ...what would -- oh, a takkarash meter would show you your protection balance, I guess 17:01 < Verdancy> ...what if you want a meter that does /all of them/? 17:01 < Teceler> pfft 17:01 < Evenstar> Probably you can get a discount on it. 17:01 < Teceler> /do/ they sell a -- pfft 17:01 < Verdancy> pfft 17:02 < Verdancy> so when Lizzie asked for "one of those meter thingies" 17:02 < Verdancy> she got a Ka one? 17:02 < Evenstar> Yes. 17:02 < Verdancy> kay 17:02 * Verdancy goes to math 17:05 -!- SonaGreen has joined #backstage 17:05 < Verdancy> Wb? 17:05 < SonaGreen> ty 17:05 -!- Sonata has quit 17:05 -!- SonaGreen is now known as Sonata 17:06 < Evenstar> Hi again Sonata 17:06 < Sonata> What if you want a meter that does /all currencies/ of the OTC-currencies' general style, including ones the OTC has not yet elevated to official status, and including being forward-compatible with currencies not yet invented? 17:06 < Evenstar> That costs extra :P 17:07 < Andygal> Ahrotahn is swimming in dough by now. 17:08 < Sonata> Ahrotahn is pretty rich, yes. 17:08 < Sonata> She's making about 50k takkarash a day. Recreationally, in her down time. 17:09 < Sonata> (But only when I remember to update the text file where I'm keeping track of how much she has..) 17:09 < Verdancy> heeeee 17:11 < Evenstar> Sonata: Would you like a hint? 17:12 < Sonata> Perhaps a small one. 17:14 < Evenstar> If this were a text adventure, you would probably want to use your 'x' command. 17:15 < Evenstar> (There is something left that has not been examined) 17:15 < Sonata> Thank you, that is a good size of hint. 17:18 < Sonata> Tag, Evenstar. (If this were a text adventure, the response would be "You can't use multiple objects with that verb.") 17:18 < Evenstar> Tag, Sonata 17:18 < Evenstar> (Fortunately, this is not a text adventure) 17:19 < Kelish> "I can't see what you're talking about" :P 17:19 < Sonata> tag, Evenstar 17:20 -!- froglegstew has joined #backstage 17:20 < Sonata> Hi Faceless 17:20 < froglegstew> huahuauha 17:21 < froglegstew> hi 17:21 < froglegstew> o/ 17:21 * Kelish hands Sonata a gold star 17:21 < Sonata> eeee 17:21 -!- froglegstew is now known as FacelessDude 17:21 < Verdancy> pfft 17:22 < Verdancy> Hi Faceless! 17:22 < Verdancy> (yay gold stars) 17:22 < FacelessDude> the best kind 17:22 < Kelish> I have misidentified Nemo as you 17:23 < Evenstar> Tag, Sonata 17:24 -!- PDVanished has quit 17:24 < Sonata> Evenstar: tag 17:27 < Evenstar> Tag, Sonata 17:28 -!- PDV has joined #backstage 17:32 < Sonata> incomplete list of channels now at http://manyworlds.mwzip.com/wiki/IRC_channels 17:32 < Sonata> help adding more is welcome 17:34 <@kappabeta> #spoilers exists 17:35 < Sonata> tag, Evenstar 17:35 < Andygal> is already there, I think? 17:35 < Sonata> that is indeed on the list 17:35 <@kappabeta> oh 17:35 < Kelish> brb walking neighbors' dog 17:35 <@kappabeta> It didn't have a thing 17:36 -!- Kelish is now known as Kelsewhere 17:36 < Sonata> (it's #scritchthekobold not #skritchthekobold, right?) 17:36 <@kappabeta> the thing that all the other ones have that caused me to perceive them in the list 17:36 <@kappabeta> it is indeed scritch 17:38 * Sonata adds the thing 17:38 <@kappabeta> <3 17:42 < sigma> Maybe note that spoilers is primarily for spoiling canons, and backstage already contains unmarked spoilers for forum plots? 17:42 < Evenstar> Tag, Sonata 17:46 < FacelessDude> is there a way to enter multiple channels at once? 17:47 < Teceler> should be 17:47 < Verdancy> gtg food 17:47 < Evenstar> afk an hour or so, food 17:47 < Evenstar> may or may not be able to be on on mobile :P 17:47 < Teceler> enjoy your food people 17:48 < Verdancy> thanks 17:48 -!- Verdancy is now known as Verdancy|Away 17:48 < FacelessDude> I just have enjoyed food, foog enjoying is good 17:51 -!- Eva has joined #backstage 17:53 < Sonata> I don't know about /entering/ at once, but you can /be in/ multiple channels at once, adding new ones with /join #channelname 18:00 < Sonata> Evenstar, tag 18:04 -!- Eva has quit 18:17 -!- Eva has joined #backstage 18:18 < Eva> (I exist! Do I have tags?) 18:18 < Teceler> sonata tagged you 18:18 < Sonata> Shall I kick your ghost? 18:19 < Eva> no, I will recorporate soon 18:23 < Evenstar> Tag, sonata 18:24 < Sonata> Evenstar, tag 18:26 -!- Eva has quit 18:27 -!- ErinFlight has joined #backstage 18:30 < Evenstar> Tag, Sonata. 18:47 -!- FacelessDude has quit 18:53 < Sonata> tag, Evenstar 18:57 < Evenstar> Tag, Sonata 18:57 < Sonata> (do you like my new icon) 18:57 < Evenstar> (I doooo) 18:57 < Evenstar> (It is a good Buddhitanka) 18:58 < Sonata> tag 19:01 < Evenstar> Tag, sonata 19:02 < Sonata> tag, Evenstar 19:13 < Teceler> (Niryl wants to know how to make Buddhitanka do that intentionally) 19:16 < Sonata> (Niryl might be able to ask a Buddhitanka that question) 19:16 < Teceler> (pfft) 19:16 < Teceler> (that would require knowing that this was even a thing that happened, icly) 19:16 < Teceler> (but yes) 19:21 < Evenstar> Tag, Sonata 19:21 < Evenstar> (Sorry for delay, but you can probably understand why :P) 19:39 < Sonata> ^_^ such tag! (and tag back) 19:39 < Sonata> (Evenstar) 19:39 < Sonata> (you are excellent, this is a delight) 19:40 -!- Verdancy|Away is now known as Verdancy 19:40 < Verdancy> I am returned 19:40 < Teceler> Welcome back! 19:40 < Sonata> welcome back 19:40 < Verdancy> (there were chores in addition to fooding) 19:40 < Verdancy> Thanks! :) 19:41 < Evenstar> (Hee) 19:41 < Evenstar> (Thanks Sonata) 19:41 * Verdancy goes to look 19:41 < ErinFlight> Hey 19:41 < Verdancy> Hi! 19:41 < ErinFlight> How do I open other chats? I feel like this is obvious... 19:42 < Sonata> do /join #channelname 19:44 < ErinFlight> Thank you! 19:44 < ErinFlight> Are there any other chats commonly used by MWF/glowfic people? 19:46 < Teceler> I think a list got made? 19:46 < ErinFlight> It did? :) 19:47 < Teceler> <Sonata> incomplete list of channels now at http://manyworlds.mwzip.com/wiki/IRC_channels 19:47 < Evenstar> Tag, Sonata 19:50 < ErinFlight> Thank you! 20:02 < sigma> Has somebody added the currency meters to the OTC sheet? 20:03 < Teceler> ...no 20:03 -!- Kelsewhere is now known as Kel 20:03 < Teceler> I would do that but I am about to-- 20:03 < Teceler> wb Kel! 20:03 < Kel> thanks! 20:03 < Kel> I had another task after walking dog 20:04 < Verdancy> wb Kel! 20:04 < Kel> I miss the forum being more active 20:04 < Teceler> [hug] 20:04 < Teceler> yeah 20:04 < Kel> [hug] 20:05 < Verdancy> *hugs* 20:05 < Verdancy> I am about to post a thing! 20:05 < Kel> :D 20:05 < Kel> [approval] 20:06 <@kappabeta> http://alicorn.elcenia.com/board/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=158 I just meandered over to this thread and now I'm thinking about Gruesome Magical Girls and Takkarash and Ahrotahn. 20:07 < Verdancy> oh man 20:07 < Teceler> awaying for a bit 20:07 < Verdancy> the thorns 20:07 -!- Teceler is now known as Teceler|Away 20:07 < Verdancy> k 20:10 -!- Kel is now known as Kelsupper 20:11 < Evenstar> Oh man 20:12 < Evenstar> I had kind of forgotten those 20:13 < sigma> Are thorns a thing now 20:13 < Evenstar> They are definitely Takkarash-y 20:13 < Verdancy> they are ridiculously takkarash-y 20:14 < Verdancy> Sigma: I think thorns are officially a Thing 20:14 < Verdancy> god help us all 20:14 < sigma> If thorns are a thing, does somebody need to do a thorns-emphasizing adaptation of Briar Rose 20:14 < Verdancy> pfffffft 20:16 < sigma> (Or, heaven help us, Brer Rabbit? Please, Brer Fox, whatever you do, just _don't_ throw me in the briar patch.) 20:16 < Verdancy> Sigma omg 20:17 < Verdancy> ....hey Evenstar 20:17 < Verdancy> Takkarash are sharp, right? 20:17 < sigma> So sharp 20:17 < Verdancy> If you have a home minting kit and you need an emergency knife 20:17 < Verdancy> can you mint one? 20:18 < Evenstar> Yep! 20:18 < sigma> I don't think you can mint a _handle_ 20:18 < Evenstar> What Sigma said. Hence 'emergency' knife. 20:19 < Verdancy> heeeee 20:20 < sigma> (Don't throw me in that big damn ballpit of Takkarash, either) 20:21 < Verdancy> pfft 20:21 < Verdancy> but like 20:21 < Verdancy> a hundred-takkarash piece would make a decent emergency knife 20:21 < Verdancy> just hold it by the center 20:21 < Verdancy> ideally with gloves 20:22 < Verdancy> ...redeem it afterward and destroy the evidence 20:23 < sigma> (--Why do you even have a big damn ballpit full of Takkarash?) (--STOP KINK-SHAMING ME) 20:23 < Verdancy> pfft omg 20:25 < Evenstar> (... I can definitely see someone having done that somewhere) 20:27 < Sonata> MetaAhrotahn: *notes* 20:28 < sigma> it's like. Scrooge McDuck? 20:29 < sigma> But not with gold 20:29 < Verdancy> pffffffft 20:36 < sigma> Also, I don't have a solid mental image for Takkarash yet, so I'm just picturing purple sea urchins 20:37 < Verdancy> pffffffffffffffffffffffffft 20:37 < Verdancy> https://etherpad.net/p/takkarash 20:37 < Verdancy> this has descriptions if wanted 20:40 < sigma> (Which, if we can believe Freddie Fish, are money too) 20:42 < sigma> Thanks. I must have been thinking of things in the ten thousand range. Though the hundreds are a better fit for the Scrooge McDuck. 20:49 < sigma> I feel like there's something you could do with the magic thorns in Briar Rose 20:49 < sigma> But while thorns are A Thing, they are not My Thing, so I don't know what 20:50 <@kappabeta> briar rose? 20:50 < Verdancy> also known as Sleeping Beauty 20:51 < sigma> The source material for Disney's Sleeping Beauty, yeah 20:51 < Verdancy> IDK if you're thinking of the Disney movie in particular, sigma 20:51 < Verdancy> pfft ninja'd 20:51 < Verdancy> anyway there was this magic wall of thorns surrounding the castle she was in 20:52 < Verdancy> actively went after intruders 20:52 < Verdancy> also they might have been controlled by maleficient?? 20:52 <@kappabeta> hahaha 20:52 < Verdancy> anyway the prince had to cut them down to get it 20:52 < Verdancy> *get in 20:52 < Verdancy> hmmmmmmmmmm 20:53 -!- Kelsupper is now known as Kelish 20:53 < Kelish> very ish 20:53 < Verdancy> wbish Kel! 20:53 < sigma> You could make the palace spell also work by thorns 20:53 < Kelish> thxish 20:54 < Verdancy> I feel like there could be something there with Briar Rose and Kappa's horrifying magical girls setting 20:54 <@kappabeta> idle query: are there any history buffs in the glowfic community 20:55 < Verdancy> but Briar Rose is ko'd 20:55 -!- Teceler|Away is now known as Teceler 20:55 < Verdancy> WB Teceler! 20:55 < Sonata> Evenstar: tag 20:56 < Kelish> wb! 20:56 < Teceler> hey 21:01 < sigma> I am not a history buff in the glowfic community 21:01 <@kappabeta> heh 21:02 <@kappabeta> one down, several to go 21:02 <@kappabeta> anyone? 21:02 < Kelish> I misread as history bluff and was very confused 21:02 < Teceler> pfft 21:02 <@kappabeta> <3 kel <3 21:02 * Kelish is also not a historyperson 21:02 < Kelish> :D 21:04 < Teceler> not a history buff. 21:04 < Teceler> although I could always dig out my old notes from history classes if it's the right bit :P 21:04 < sigma> Do the history buffs attack at night 21:04 < Teceler> pfft 21:05 < Kelish> If there is a specific question, I could ask my history teacher? 21:05 <@kappabeta> hehehe 21:05 <@kappabeta> your history teacher probably doesn't want to deal with my nonsense 21:06 < sigma> Are you contemplating historically accurate glowfic scenarios 21:06 <@kappabeta> I'm trying to construct a Slightly Alternate History for the purposes of crowbaring a Miles into an Earth 21:06 < sigma> Oh, I see! Interesting. 21:06 < Andygal> interesting? 21:07 < Teceler> where's the PoD? 21:07 < sigma> Alternate history can be fun. I have a book called What If with a bunch of alternate history departure points. 21:08 <@kappabeta> i can just barely fit one into the wizarding world of harry potter without inventing a whole new country, and if I'm working in a setting without resurrection I can fit a dead one into Vaguely Somewhere In Europe It Doesn't Matter Exactly, but if I want a Miles in a modern-day Earth without any appropriate supernatural communities to belong to, I pretty much need to invent a country to be pseudo-Barrayar 21:08 <@kappabeta> did that cut off 21:08 < Teceler> pseudo-Barrayar 21:08 < Kelish> "invent a country to be pseudo barrayar" 21:08 < Teceler> was the last thing 21:08 <@kappabeta> did not cut off, ok 21:08 < Kelish> yay 21:09 < Kelish> ... he /might/ be willing to help? 21:09 <@kappabeta> for some reason I landed on "make Greenland more habitable and an appropriate mix of people find it and settle there at some point in the past" 21:09 < Kelish> */able 21:09 <@kappabeta> <3 <3 <3 21:09 < Kelish> ooh 21:09 < Kelish> he likes talking about greenland 21:09 < Kelish> brb 21:09 <@kappabeta> ...XD 21:10 <@kappabeta> but like, I don't know *when* to have these people have found it, or *which* people exactly (Barrayar is Russian/British/French/Greek, I can get away with the Russians and probably the British but I'm stretching for the French and have no plausible way to include the Greeks as far as I know, also since Greenland I probably need to throw some Scandinavians in there) 21:11 <@kappabeta> and from that point I also don't know what this country ends up being called or what its history looks like at all 21:12 * Teceler is adding meters to the spreadsheet 21:12 < Teceler> Evenstar what if any currencies other than presumably Cernnuous don't have one? 21:13 < sigma> Teceler, check for the basic minting kits too? 21:13 < Teceler> do we have a quote on the price-per? 21:14 < sigma> You could carve off an extra post-Soviet country near Greece. Russia and France had a lot of cultural crossover, and British imperialism can stick its fingers just about anywhere. 21:14 < Teceler> ...also 21:15 < Teceler> didn't Evenstar say that most of the minting kits came with meters? 21:15 < sigma> I don't remember ever hearing that 21:15 < Evenstar> Nope. 21:15 < Teceler> okay 21:15 < Teceler> I only vaguely remember that XD 21:16 < sigma> Or there's good old Atlantis, it has good reasons for British and Greek 21:16 <@kappabeta> XD 21:16 < Teceler> ...Evenstar what does the Udi meter do? 21:16 <@kappabeta> Atlantis might be slightly too fantastical? Alternately, Greenland ~is~ Atlantis. Somehow. 21:16 <@kappabeta> I've gotten very attached to Greenland 21:17 < Teceler> (or the Buddhitanka one, a little, too) 21:18 < Kelish> (Greenlantis?) 21:18 <@kappabeta> hee hee <3 21:18 < Sonata> Greenlanternis 21:19 <@kappabeta> no, sonata. <3 21:19 < Verdancy> Evenstar Lizzie just tried to buy a buttload of stuff 21:19 <@kappabeta> I could be convinced to plonk the place somewhere else, but part of the thing is that pseudo-Barrayar kind of wants to be an island 21:19 < sigma> If you're warming the north, you've got plenty of reasons for British and Russian and Nordic, yeah. Atlantis is an avenue to add Greek. 21:19 < Sonata> (Let's play the "how many ridiculous crossovers can we fit into a single setting" game) 21:19 <@kappabeta> which Greenland is 21:19 <@kappabeta> <3 21:20 < sigma> Iceland is Komarr? 21:20 < Kelish> (brb again) 21:20 < Teceler> Sky: pfft 21:20 < Teceler> er 21:20 < Teceler> *Sonata 21:20 <@kappabeta> it doesn't need to have *that* close an analogy 21:20 <@kappabeta> XD 21:21 < sigma> You can find junk on the internet if you search for "Greenland is Atlantis" 21:21 < Teceler> pfft 21:21 < sigma> Some of it might offer inspiration 21:21 <@kappabeta> man 21:22 <@kappabeta> this first page of google results is just... 21:22 < sigma> Is it junk 21:22 <@kappabeta> some of it is *almost* intriguing enough to get me to click on it despite the Weirdness 21:23 < sigma> You're writing fiction, wackos are fuel 21:24 <@kappabeta> but if i only read the wackos i'm probably going to get an incorrect impression of the facts and it might be hard to tell which things are wrong exactly 21:24 < sigma> ...No, brain, we are not introducing a character from Time Cube world 21:24 < Evenstar> Udi meters measure how many desires you-as-a-person consist of. 21:24 < Teceler> sigma: pfff 21:24 < Evenstar> They uh 21:25 < Evenstar> They're not that sensitive? 21:25 < Teceler> Evenstar: pfffft 21:25 < Teceler> okay 21:25 < Evenstar> Because most people are composed of like, Mega-Udi 21:25 < Verdancy> that 21:25 < Evenstar> It is kind of hard to get accuracy all along that scale 21:25 < Verdancy> is interesting 21:25 < Teceler> andw hat is the price point on minting kits? 21:25 < sigma> Or moodi, for short 21:25 < Verdancy> pfft 21:25 < Evenstar> pffft 21:26 < Verdancy> ...OTC should sell mood rings 21:26 < Verdancy> that actually work 21:26 < Teceler> I assume udi and budditanka minting kits give you some targeting? 21:26 < Evenstar> "mood rings that really work" < adding to the buylist 21:26 < Teceler> XD 21:27 <@Adelene> (Lurker wants one of those. ^^) 21:27 < Kelish> :D 21:27 <@kappabeta> ...heh 21:27 < Verdancy> heeeeee 21:27 < Teceler> Evenstar: I assume no on all of the Cernnuous various scales, for meters and minting kits? 21:27 <@kappabeta> the Joker template is trying to tell me that their Udi measurement is "ERROR" 21:27 < Teceler> pffft 21:27 < Evenstar> Teceler: Yep 21:27 < Evenstar> Kappabeta: Yeah I would expect that :P 21:27 < Teceler> okay 21:27 < Verdancy> heeeeeeeeeeeeeee 21:28 <@kappabeta> XD 21:28 < Andygal> kappabeta: Ha! 21:28 < Teceler> Evenstar: and how much do basic minting kits cost? 21:28 < Andygal> The Joker template breaks a lot of things. 21:28 < Evenstar> Jokerwierdness might mean they can't mint Udi 21:28 < Evenstar> Because 'can't stop being themselves' 21:28 <@kappabeta> they certainly *wouldn't* 21:28 <@kappabeta> and yeah 21:28 <@kappabeta> so like 21:29 <@kappabeta> their psychology does not admit of that kind of subdivision 21:30 < sigma> Jokers are just one giant indivisible udi? 21:30 -!- ErinFlight has quit 21:30 -!- ErinFlight has joined #backstage 21:31 < Evenstar> Tag, Sonata 21:31 < Kelish> THE FORUM IS ALIVE 21:31 < Sonata> WITH THE SOUND OF MUSIC 21:31 < Evenstar> Teceler: 10 of the thing to mint, again. 21:31 < Kelish> AND ALSO SHOPPING 21:31 < Kelish> THE FORUM IS ALIVE WITH EXACTLY ONE SHOPPER 21:31 < Teceler> okay 21:31 < Teceler> Kelish: pft 21:31 < sigma> Can udi manipulation somehow assist Felicity Joker with that disconnection problem 21:31 < Kelish> which is Felicity? 21:32 <@kappabeta> Jokers are like some kind of Gordian Knot of Udi where every potentially separable desire turns out to be inextricably tangled with several more such that you can't meaningfully uproot just one, or even just a fraction of one, or even a whole handful 21:32 < sigma> Elspeth's island rescue joker 21:32 < Kelish> ah 21:32 < Kelish> back in about 15-30 I have a skill I need to practice 21:32 -!- Kelish is now known as Kelsewhere 21:33 <@kappabeta> Felicity (a) declines to think of that characteristic as a problem, (b) declines to interact with Udi in any capacity 21:33 < sigma> Reasonable! 21:33 < Andygal> disconnection problem? 21:34 < sigma> Sort of like not being able to predict what you want? 21:34 < Teceler> ...Chron and Izikiel minting kits and meters are /expensive/ 21:34 < Evenstar> Yep. 21:34 < sigma> I don't know how to describe that characteristic 21:35 < Sonata> A minting kit, in general, means "I expect to mint a lot of this" 21:35 < Evenstar> Cernnous is lol 21:35 < Sonata> Ka kits are pretty expensive unless you're the kind of person who would need one 21:35 < sigma> Should Cernnous say "inquire"? 21:36 < Sonata> Cernnuous is a little silly. 21:36 < Sonata> Ten god-Chron might be a more reasonable price for the Cernnuous kit. 21:36 < Teceler> Sonata: I don't think they even make those 21:36 < sigma> Because a Cernnous minting kit is probably not the answer to a problem you're having? 21:37 < Andygal> Sonata: /Wanting/ a Cernnous minting kit is a little silly. 21:37 <@kappabeta> I wish these things had consistent canonical spellings 21:37 < Teceler> ... 21:37 < Teceler> I imagine this presents a problem for collectors :P 21:37 < Verdancy> pfffft 21:38 < Evenstar> kappabeta: I will tell you what the canonical spellings are just as soon as I stop misspelling them myself >.> 21:38 <@kappabeta> indeed 21:38 < Evenstar> (Also Sonata did you get my tag?) 21:39 < sigma> Afaik god-chron and pico-Cernnous are not first-class citizens of the currency market 21:40 < sigma> So wouldn't have their own meters any more than "years of healthy lifespan" would 21:40 < Teceler> sigma: Cernnuous is though I think 21:40 < Verdancy> Hey, Evenstar, does adding sugar to skylimes do anything to their potency? 21:40 < Evenstar> Nope! 21:40 < Verdancy> yay 21:41 < Teceler> XD 21:41 < Andygal> Yay! 21:41 < Evenstar> You can make skylimeade. 21:41 < Teceler> pffft 21:41 < Verdancy> that is exactly what Lizzie is doing 21:41 < Evenstar> (Already been asked :P) 21:41 < Verdancy> ...not by me I hope 21:41 < Andygal> How much skylimeade do you have to drink to make a whole slice? 21:41 < Teceler> probably depends on the porportions 21:41 < Verdancy> it is more /pureed skylime/ with water than traditional limeade 21:42 < Verdancy> ...she takes the skins off, though 21:42 -!- sigma_ has joined #backstage 21:42 < Verdancy> also does heating do anything to potency? 21:42 < Verdancy> WB Sigma! 21:42 < sigma_> I keep not actually playing Eskay, if I was he'd be reselling so much of OTC products 21:42 < Verdancy> heeeeeeeeeeee 21:42 < Teceler> XD 21:43 <@kappabeta> hmm i think i will go to bed. goodnight friends 21:43 < sigma_> Especially skylimes 21:43 < Teceler> sleep well kappa 21:43 < sigma_> Good night, kappa! 21:43 <@Adelene> Sleep well! 21:43 < Verdancy> Good night, Kappa! 21:43 < Andygal> night kappa 21:44 -!- kappabeta has left #backstage 21:44 < Teceler> pffft the OTC 21:44 < Evenstar> Sigma_ would you like a franchise 21:44 < Verdancy> Evenstar: what happened with the multiple experiental memories and also what does "we prefer for you to do your business in god-chron" mean 21:44 < Teceler> "... Sent. In future we would prefer for you to do your business in god-chron." 21:44 -!- sigma has quit 21:45 -!- sigma_ is now known as sigma 21:45 < Verdancy> Do they want her to convert Ka to God-chron? 21:45 < Teceler> Verdancy: probably Lizzie needs to ask icly XD 21:45 < Verdancy> yeah 21:45 <@Adelene> Or she might be about to get a door. ^^ 21:45 < Verdancy> oh dear 21:45 < Teceler> pfffft 21:46 < Teceler> ...Evenstar? 21:47 < Evenstar> Verdancy: The first of each was given directly to her, the rest appeared in little crystalline housings. 21:47 < Verdancy> cool! 21:47 < Verdancy> that works 21:48 < Evenstar> (When in doubt, crystal = magic) 21:48 < Teceler> with instructions on how to use the, I assume? 21:48 < Teceler> XD 21:48 < Teceler> *them 21:48 < Evenstar> :P 21:48 < Sonata> (I did get your tag) 21:48 < Verdancy> heeeee 21:49 < Verdancy> Evenstar- how much /would/ the OTC inventory cost? 21:49 < Evenstar> (yay!) 21:49 < Evenstar> More than you can afford. 21:49 < Verdancy> hee 21:49 < sigma> Are the memories self-explanatory like Nicktech or Terraria stuff 21:49 < Evenstar> More than /Aisilian/ can afford. 21:49 < Verdancy> heeeeeeeee 21:49 < Andygal> pffft 21:49 < Teceler> pfft 21:49 < Evenstar> The OTC is /big/. 21:49 < sigma> Aisilian can afford a lot 21:50 < Teceler> um 21:50 < Verdancy> :D :D :D 21:50 < Verdancy> ? 21:50 < Verdancy> (I like the car idea) 21:50 < Teceler> Evenstar I think Verdancy meant the Infinite Inventory Method 21:50 < Teceler> thiing 21:50 * Verdancy facepalms 21:50 < Teceler> I don't think that's it's actual name is it 21:50 < Verdancy> yes that 21:50 < Verdancy> aaaaanyway 21:50 < Teceler> ...pffft that /is/ the actual name 21:50 < Teceler> XD 21:51 < Evenstar> Like, out there somewhere there is a monotheistic god with complete and total control over their universe, Keeper style, and they buy things from the OTC because they're limited to the physics their local universe can support. 21:51 < Teceler> Evenstar: pffft 21:51 < Evenstar> That is the actual name. 21:51 < Verdancy> pfffft 21:51 < Evenstar> OTC occasionally believes in 'name on the tin' branding. 21:51 < sigma> Evenstar, Eskay probably wants a franchise. I probably don't want to play that myself, though, Eskay's not currently a fun character for me to micro 21:52 < Evenstar> Ok! 21:52 < Verdancy> I am glad the OTC is big! It would be sad if it got eaten. Even if it is very morally ambiguous 21:53 < Andygal> it might get eaten by an actually /evil/ corporation. 21:53 < sigma> I have a friend who might come play with us, and if he does I intend to hand Skytopia to him 21:53 < Verdancy> .... 21:53 < Verdancy> no lets not have that happen 21:53 < Verdancy> (@ evil corporation thing) 21:53 < Verdancy> (not Skytopia handoff) 21:53 < Verdancy> (that is cute and I support your decisions) 21:54 < Evenstar> (yay!) 21:54 < sigma> (☺) 21:54 < Teceler> I think there was a long-term plan involving World-Tree kind of... co-opting the OTC, but there were not eating plans involved iirc once it was realized how the OTC worked 21:54 * Verdancy remembers 21:55 < Verdancy> also there was a discussion about brainwashing 21:56 < Verdancy> ....so Evenstar, /can/ Lizzie afford the Infinite Inventory? 21:56 < Teceler> or an upgrade to her inventory? 21:56 < Andygal> the original plan was for ME to buy them out, but I think we changed it to the world tree as a whole after Evenstar explained that OTC's sapience depends on it having multiple shareholders. 21:56 < Verdancy> (I am really tempted by the car workaround, though) 21:56 < Teceler> well 21:57 < Teceler> World Tree as a whole was not inclined to approve of just ME controlling the OTC XD 21:57 < Teceler> iric 21:57 < Teceler> *iirc 21:57 < Verdancy> I thought it got downgraded to "individual members of World Tree hold large amounts of OTC currency, influence it with their morals" 21:57 < Andygal> the car workaround would be hilarious just for the reaction of FL people who have never seen nor heard of cars. 21:57 < Verdancy> heeeee 21:57 < Verdancy> (they have carts, though, right?) 21:58 < Sonata> Evenstar, tag. (I made a couple reasonable assumptions, let me know if they're wrong) 21:58 < Teceler> (they have pretty much what technology was available when London fell. plus some... additions.) 21:58 < Verdancy> (ominous) 21:58 < Teceler> (XD) 21:58 < Sonata> (they have hansom-cabs at least) 21:58 < Teceler> (Zubmarines!) 21:58 < Verdancy> (and I think you meant *when London was stolen by space bats working for a sapient market) 21:58 < Teceler> pffffft 21:59 < sigma> What is this car method 21:59 < Teceler> 'fell' is shorter 21:59 < Verdancy> yep :P 21:59 < Verdancy> the car method is 21:59 < Verdancy> Lizzie's various potionmaking sets cannot go in her inventory 21:59 < Verdancy> but they can fit inside a car 21:59 < Verdancy> and /cars/ can go in her inventory 21:59 < Verdancy> soooooo 21:59 < Sonata> ahaha 22:00 < sigma> Haha 22:00 < Teceler> XD 22:00 -!- Kelmusic has joined #backstage 22:00 < Verdancy> WB Kel! 22:00 < Kelmusic> Evenstar! 22:00 < Kelmusic> ish 22:00 * Verdancy nods 22:00 < Teceler> hello musicKel! 22:00 < Kelmusic> A useful thing the OTC could sell 22:00 < Kelmusic> ooh that's better 22:00 < Teceler> pfft 22:00 -!- Kelmusic is now known as MusiKel 22:00 < Teceler> ahahaha 22:00 < Verdancy> awwwwwww 22:00 < MusiKel> :D 22:00 < MusiKel> <3 22:00 < Verdancy> <3 22:01 < Verdancy> that is /cute/ 22:01 < MusiKel> Socks to match the one that was lost or forgotten 22:01 < Verdancy> omg 22:01 < Verdancy> yes 22:01 < Verdancy> yes that 22:01 < MusiKel> inspired by misreading Lizzie's order as "forgotten socks" 22:01 < Verdancy> pffffffffffffffft 22:01 < Teceler> XD 22:01 < sigma> Matching socks 22:02 < Andygal> they could sell a washing machine that doesn't eat the socks in the first place. 22:02 < Verdancy> heeeee 22:02 < Verdancy> omg 22:02 < Verdancy> so one time my family and I were on vacation 22:02 < Verdancy> and one of my socks went mysteriously missing 22:03 < Evenstar> Tag, Sonata 22:03 < Verdancy> and I swore up and down I had put it in the hamper 22:03 < Teceler> Evenstar: there was a question for you 22:03 < Verdancy> and yet, my mother /would not stop/ asking me if I wasn't /sure/ that I'd left it somewhere 22:03 < Verdancy> this went on for like a day 22:03 < Verdancy> then we did laundry again! 22:04 < Verdancy> aaaaand the washing machine overflowed 22:04 < Verdancy> and guess what we found when we went to unclog it 22:04 < Evenstar> Teceler: Which? 22:04 < MusiKel> a sock? 22:04 < Verdancy> A sock. 22:04 < MusiKel> The sock? 22:04 < Verdancy> My missing sock, to be precise. 22:04 < Verdancy> Yep. 22:04 < sigma> Oh nooo! XD 22:04 < Verdancy> It was hilarious 22:04 < Andygal> Evenstar: Tec wanted to know if Lizzie can afford an inventory upgrade or not. 22:05 < Teceler> actually Verdancy wanted to know too 22:05 < Sonata> tag, Evenstar 22:05 < sigma> ("If your sock drawer contains three white socks, three black socks, and three polymorphic socks...") 22:05 < Verdancy> I tried /so hard/ not to let them know how smug I felt 22:05 < Evenstar> Lizzie can afford that thing but it will probably take significant time. 22:05 < MusiKel> XD 22:05 < MusiKel> Evenstar can the OTC sell those? 22:05 < Teceler> ...would upgrading her existing inventory to not break in some other worlds be faster? 22:05 < MusiKel> Matching socks? 22:09 * Andygal pokes chat 22:09 < Teceler> hello Andygal? 22:09 < ErinFlight> Hey 22:09 < Verdancy> Hi! 22:09 < Teceler> brb 22:09 < MusiKel> pong? 22:09 -!- Verdancy is now known as Chat 22:09 * Chat is poked 22:10 -!- Chat is now known as Verdancy 22:10 < MusiKel> XD 22:10 < Andygal> pffft 22:10 < MusiKel> <3 22:10 < Verdancy> <3 :) 22:10 < Andygal> Evenstar 22:10 < MusiKel> no Verdancy 22:10 < MusiKel> the Chat was within you the whole time 22:10 < Verdancy> heeeeeeeeeeeee 22:10 < MusiKel> it was the connection you made with each other along the way 22:10 < Andygal> heeeee 22:10 < ErinFlight> :D 22:10 < Verdancy> pfffffffffffffft 22:11 < Teceler> bk 22:11 < Teceler> XD 22:12 < Verdancy> wb! 22:12 < MusiKel> wb! 22:12 < Teceler> thanks 22:12 < Verdancy> :) 22:13 < Evenstar> Tag, Sonata 22:14 < ErinFlight> So has anyone here read Annihalation? 22:14 < Andygal> Evenstar: answer to question? 22:14 < ErinFlight> It's my favorite book and one day I will find someone who has 22:14 < Andygal> I have not read it. 22:15 < ErinFlight> Ah, :/ 22:15 < Evenstar> Lizzie can afford that thing but it will probably take significant time. < 22:15 < Evenstar> Also polymorphic socks are definitely sold by the OTC. 22:15 < Evenstar> (Heck, polymorphic /fabric/ is sold by the OTC) 22:15 < Evenstar> (Wear your shirt as pants) 22:15 < Teceler> Evenstar, then I asked if upgrades to her inventory would be quiker 22:15 < Teceler> *quicker 22:15 < Evenstar> Teceler: Yes, probably. 22:15 < Verdancy> Can I get a ballpark estimate in terms of currency? 22:15 < ErinFlight> I would buy polymorphic socks 22:16 < Verdancy> hee 22:16 < MusiKel> oh gosh imagine how colorful they could be! 22:17 < Evenstar> Verdancy: Full Infinite Inventory Method, calibrated to not interfere with her existing inventory in any way: Probably about a half-Cernnous. Expansion of her existing inventory to work everywhere: Maybe 50 god-chron or so. 22:17 < Teceler> ...and what rate is Lizzie minting god-chron at? 22:17 < Verdancy> Does the second thing include putting nontraditional items in her inventory? 22:18 * Verdancy goes to calculate how many potions of youth that would be 22:18 < Evenstar> Verdancy: Yes. 22:18 < MusiKel> can you put a person in your inventory? 22:18 < Verdancy> ....not in Goal 22:18 < MusiKel> if not, can you use flesh to stone and put the rock in your inventory? 22:18 < Evenstar> Musikel: Not unless they want to be put in your inventory. 22:18 < MusiKel> XD 22:18 < Teceler> pffft 22:18 < MusiKel> ... tempted to make a CM spoiler joke 22:18 < Verdancy> ....the rock probably counts as a sculpture, so no 22:18 < Verdancy> CM? 22:18 < MusiKel> counterfeit monkey 22:19 < Teceler> Counterfeit Monkey 22:19 < Teceler> pfft 22:19 < Andygal> sculpture could go in the household inventory. 22:19 * Verdancy has never heard of that 22:19 < Verdancy> so 22:19 * Verdancy nods 22:19 < Evenstar> [spoiler redacted] 22:19 < Verdancy> pfft omg 22:19 < Teceler> Evenstar: and that doesn't mess with things in Lizzie's existing inventory counting as worn? 22:19 < Andygal> ahahaaha 22:19 < Verdancy> okay but what happens if you put a person in OTC inventory? 22:19 < Evenstar> Teceler: That's probably separate. 22:19 < Teceler> Evenstar: hm? 22:20 < Evenstar> She has to buy that as a different thing. 22:20 < Evenstar> Verdancy: They're put in suspension until they're retrieved. If your inventory supports that. 22:20 < Sonata> Evenstar: tag 22:20 < Evenstar> If not they probably die unless they are like, gods. 22:21 < Teceler> Evenstar: Lizzie's existing inventory already does that thing, though 22:21 < Teceler> is the thing 22:22 < Evenstar> Tag, Sonata 22:22 < Evenstar> Teceler: Then that will not disrupt it! 22:22 < Teceler> o,ay 22:22 < Teceler> er 22:22 < Teceler> *okay 22:26 < Verdancy> Lizzie's inventory can hold fish, snakes, turtles, lizards, birds, and small mammals without anything bad happen to them 22:26 < Sonata> tag, Evenstar 22:26 < Verdancy> I think Goal nopes putting someone in an inventory 22:26 < Verdancy> (no recursion!) 22:27 < Evenstar> Tag, Sonata 22:27 < Teceler> pfft 22:29 < Andygal> Ha. 22:29 < Sonata> Evenstar, does looking through the lens cause the key to fit the hole? 22:29 < Andygal> ...would that be a reliable test of personhood? 22:29 < MusiKel> person = has an inventory? 22:29 < MusiKel> leaving musick 22:29 < MusiKel> *music 22:29 < Teceler> in Goal yeah 22:30 -!- MusiKel has quit 22:30 < Andygal> how good is Goal likely to be at telling people from non-people in unusual cases? 22:30 < Evenstar> Sonata: No. 22:31 < Verdancy> It will err on the side of caution 22:32 < Verdancy> that is, assuming that a being is a person if that is in dispute 22:32 < Verdancy> ...reasonable dispute 22:32 < Evenstar> Sonata: Feel free to ask if you would like another hint. 22:32 < Verdancy> not like, insisting that their pet rock is a person 22:32 < Andygal> ahahahaha 22:32 < Teceler> pft 22:32 < Teceler> ...golems 22:33 < Verdancy> they are clearly animated! 22:33 < Andygal> I think Tyche will approve of this. 22:33 < Sonata> Evenstar, tag. 22:33 < Teceler> or, like, some world that has sapient rocks 22:33 < Verdancy> Yes 22:33 < Verdancy> The multiverse is a big place 22:33 < Andygal> Ha. 22:33 < Teceler> XD 22:33 < Verdancy> Goal would call them people 22:33 < Verdancy> It is not discriminatory against rocks 22:33 < Teceler> XD 22:33 < Verdancy> It just doesn't happen to have any sapient ones 22:34 < Verdancy> ...what would you call that, I wonder 22:34 < Teceler> ...what happens if someone goes to Goal and their native magic refuses to let it give them an inventory for whatever reason? 22:34 < Verdancy> lithrophobia? 22:34 < Verdancy> Lithroism? 22:34 < Verdancy> Teceler: nothing really? 22:34 < Sonata> Misolithy? 22:34 < Verdancy> they don't get an 22:34 < Verdancy> pfffffffffffffft 22:35 < Verdancy> --they don't get an inventory, Goal pouts a bit 22:35 < Teceler> XD 22:35 < Teceler> okay I wondered if it had Interesting Effects 22:35 < Verdancy> Lizzie gives them several bags of holding 22:35 < Andygal> but they still can't be put in other people's inventories? 22:35 < Verdancy> yeah that 22:35 < Verdancy> is really less about recursion 22:35 < Verdancy> and more about inventories being for storing /things/ 22:35 < Verdancy> not /people/ 22:36 < Andygal> Sensible! 22:36 < Teceler> XD 22:36 < Verdancy> ...I feel like I'm being rude to the small mammals that fit in inventories now 22:36 < Verdancy> Sorry, mice. 22:37 < Teceler> they don't seem to stasis properly though :P 22:37 < Verdancy> hmmmmm 22:37 < Verdancy> they don't! 22:37 < Verdancy> the funny thing is 22:37 < Verdancy> they can escape /human inventories/ 22:37 < Verdancy> but not /dog or cat or horse ones/ 22:38 < Verdancy> hmmm 22:38 < Teceler> ...pfft 22:38 < Teceler> really? 22:38 < Teceler> XD 22:38 < Verdancy> yup! 22:38 < Verdancy> which kind of makes sense from a gameplay perspective 22:38 < Verdancy> because cats catch them 22:39 < Verdancy> and presumably it would be a bit of trouble if they kept escaping afterwards 22:39 < Verdancy> but. 22:39 -!- Kelsewhere is now known as Kel 22:39 < Verdancy> Welcome Kel! 22:39 < Teceler> wb Kel 22:39 < Andygal> Hi Kel. 22:39 < Kel> thanks! 22:40 < Verdancy> also. fish and produce never go bad but /prepared food/ does 22:40 < Verdancy> what is the difference between a head of lettuce and a head of lettuce I have chopped into salad 22:40 < Verdancy> the larger surface are cannot make /that/ much of a difference 22:40 < Verdancy> *area 22:41 < Kel> it has been cut 22:41 < Kel> and therefore germs get in? 22:42 < Andygal> does Lizzie want those issues fixed? 22:42 < Sonata> perhaps the unchopped head of lettuce is sealed in an airtight plastic bag with a mysterious sterile anaerobic gas 22:43 < Sonata> perhaps the salad has other, decayier, ingredients besides salad 22:43 < Sonata> (which you don't have to buy because, uh, all kitchens have a salad dressing faucet that connects to the municipal salad dressing supply) 22:43 < Kel> maybe all the preparing-implements are covered in slow-releasing mold spores? 22:43 < Kel> XD 22:45 < Evenstar> Tag, Sonata 22:45 < Verdancy> pfft hee 22:47 < Verdancy> Andygal: I actually haven't decided whether or not it even happens in Goal 22:47 < Verdancy> If it does, though, the reason is "because people think food will spoil" 22:49 < Andygal> pfft 22:54 < Sonata> tag, Evenstar 22:56 -!- sigma has quit 22:56 -!- sigma has joined #backstage 22:56 < Evenstar> Tag, Sonata 22:58 < Sonata> tag. Evenstar 23:01 < Evenstar> Tag, Sonata 23:02 < Sonata> And I'm ready for a hint. 23:02 < Kel> warning: on Mondays and Wednesdays I will probably not be home until 16:00 or so, and on tuesdays probably not until 12:30 or so 23:02 < Kel> because classes 23:02 < Teceler> Kel: [hugs if wanted] 23:03 < Evenstar> Examine something more carefully that you have already looked at. 23:03 -!- Kel is now known as Kelsleep 23:03 < Kelsleep> [hugs] 23:03 < Kelsleep> hopefully classes will be interesting 23:03 < Teceler> (sleep well) 23:03 < Kelsleep> augh 23:03 < Kelsleep> I just remembered a homework 23:03 < Teceler> ? 23:03 < Sonata> tag Evenstar 23:03 < Teceler> [/hugs/] 23:03 < Kelsleep> ... I can't really skip this one 23:03 < Sonata> [hugs] 23:03 < Kelsleep> [hugs] 23:03 -!- Kelsleep is now known as Kelish 23:03 < Evenstar> Tag, sonata 23:04 < Kelish> (also I promised my mom in words that I would go to bed on time tonight. I don't like lying.) 23:04 < Teceler> (well. tell her about the homework?) 23:04 < Teceler> (you did intend to) 23:04 < Kelish> yeah 23:04 < Kelish> I knew about the homework before 23:04 < Kelish> and completely forgot 23:05 < Teceler> yeah, but, like 23:05 < Teceler> you planned to go to bed on time 23:05 < Kelish> but I have been planning to go to bed on time for /weeks/ 23:05 < Teceler> [hug] 23:05 < Kelish> [hug] 23:07 * Verdancy offers hugs 23:07 < Verdancy> I'm sorry, Kel. :( 23:08 < Sonata> tag Evenstar 23:09 < Andygal> (hugs Kel) 23:09 < Kelish> [hugs] 23:11 < Verdancy> *hugs* 23:11 < ErinFlight> I'm sorry Kel, that sucks. That happens to me sometimes. 23:11 < Sonata> can you do it in the morning? 23:11 < ErinFlight> Maybe get up an hour early? 23:11 < Kelish> it is due at midnight 23:11 < Kelish> online 23:11 < Andygal> :( 23:12 < ErinFlight> Ugh 23:12 < Verdancy> :( 23:12 < Teceler> [hug] 23:12 < Kelish> [hug] 23:12 < Verdancy> *hugs* (iff wanted) 23:12 < Kelish> not /hard/ but time 23:12 < Teceler> ...at least it's not already past midnight there? 23:12 < Kelish> [hug] 23:12 < Kelish> yeah! 23:12 < ErinFlight> *hug* I hope you finish it quickly! 23:12 * Verdancy nods 23:12 < Kelish> it is 10ish 23:12 < Kelish> thanks 23:12 -!- Kelish has left #backstage 23:12 < Verdancy> ... 23:12 < Verdancy> I hope that wasn't her internet connection 23:13 < Verdancy> :( 23:13 < Teceler> no, that is her trying to be less distracted 23:13 < Verdancy> okay. 23:13 < Verdancy> that is good. 23:13 < Verdancy> ish. 23:13 < Teceler> (I asked) 23:13 < Verdancy> (thanks) 23:24 < Evenstar> Tag, Sonata 23:24 -!- Kelish has joined #backstage 23:24 < Kelish> I WON THE HOMEWORK AND CAN NOW SLEEP 23:25 < Kelish> GOODNIGHT ALL 23:25 < Verdancy> YAY! 23:25 < Teceler> sleep well! 23:25 -!- Kelish is now known as Kelsleep 23:25 < Verdancy> Congratulations! 23:25 < Verdancy> Good night, Kel. <3 23:25 < Teceler> good night 23:25 < Sonata> Congratulations and goodnight! 23:25 < Andygal> goodnight Kel. 23:26 < Kelsleep> =) <3 23:27 < Sonata> tag, Evenstar 23:29 < Evenstar> Sonata: Part of the /box/. 23:34 -!- Kelsleep has quit 23:50 < Sonata> Evenstar: tag --- Day changed Mon Aug 31 2015 00:01 < Evenstar> Tag, Sonata 00:04 -!- MTC has joined #backstage 00:05 < Sonata> tag, Evenstar 00:10 -!- MTC has quit 00:12 -!- Sky has quit 00:17 < Evenstar> Tag, Sonata 00:17 < Evenstar> (Sorry about that, I probably should have just given you this) 00:19 -!- MTC has joined #backstage 00:20 -!- ErinFlight has quit 00:21 < Sonata> tag Evenstar 00:24 < Evenstar> tag, Sonata 00:24 <@Adelene> Oh, Sonata, question. 00:24 < Sonata> Hm? 00:25 < Sonata> Evenstar: tag 00:25 <@Adelene> Lurker, who can do the relevant hand motions because Esthfora, tries to cast Haste on Amadi, who is in a simulspace with her but not physically nearby. (I'm not sure whether he's an infomorph at the moment or has a physical body that's relevant.) What happens? 00:26 < Teceler> Evenstar, how exactly does OTC's definition of god work? 00:27 < Evenstar> Tag, Sonata 00:27 <@Adelene> I think he might be an infomorph, in which case it probably works as expected, but the case where he's not seems a little less obvious to me. 00:28 < Evenstar> Teceler: If you can produce a Cernnous worth of currency in a year or less, you are a god. 00:28 < Teceler> aha 00:28 < Evenstar> Daeva are all gods because they can manufacture arbitrary matter. 00:28 < Evenstar> (Not OTC currencies, but they are awesome manufacturers) 00:29 < Evenstar> (Well, unless you got the short end of the stick and ended up a fairy) 00:29 < Teceler> ...and if someone mints, for example, a Cernnuous worth of chron? 00:29 < Teceler> (yes that's a lot of chron) 00:29 < Teceler> but theoretically 00:29 < Verdancy> I imagine they're fucked six ways from Sunday 00:29 < Evenstar> Then they are officially either a god or extremely dead. 00:29 < Teceler> well yeah 00:29 < Teceler> ...pfffffft 00:29 < Teceler> okay 00:29 < Andygal> XDXD 00:29 < Evenstar> Like 00:29 < Evenstar> Mr. Eaten levels of fucked, here. 00:29 < Teceler> ouch 00:29 < Sonata> Casting the spell involves specifying a valid target. If he's not (physically) within range, he's not a valid target and so she can't complete the spell. The MP is not lost. 00:30 < Evenstar> There's a power in Nobilis 00:30 <@Adelene> Ok. 00:30 < Evenstar> Let me find it... 00:30 * Verdancy goes to math 00:30 * Andygal quotefiles 00:31 < Verdancy> pfft 00:31 < Evenstar> "Midas Mors Mortis" 00:32 < Evenstar> "With but a touch, the Excrucian turns an ordinary human, cup, doorway, etc - any non-Noble object or being - into an avatar of death." 00:32 < Sonata> Evenstar: tag 00:32 < Verdancy> ... 00:32 < Verdancy> . . . 00:32 < Andygal> .... 00:32 < Verdancy> . . . 00:32 < Teceler> ... 00:32 < Sonata> . . . 00:32 < Evenstar> "Everything that person touches - from cups, doors, and rivers, to relationships, businesses, and domestic animals - goes awry, often in a lethal manner." 00:33 < Andygal> ....welp. 00:33 < Teceler> aaaa 00:33 < Evenstar> "The effects of this power wear off in about a week, or when the Excrucian and its shards are banished from reality." 00:33 < Teceler> ... 00:34 < Teceler> ...on that light-hearted note, I should probably go sleep 00:34 < Evenstar> /That/ is the level of screwed you are inviting into your life if you mint a Cernnous worth of Chron. 00:34 < Andygal> ... 00:34 < Andygal> goodnight Teceler 00:34 < Evenstar> Night, Teceler 00:34 < Evenstar> Sweet dreams :P 00:34 < Teceler> pfft 00:34 < Verdancy> Good night, Teceler. 00:34 < Verdancy> pfft 00:34 -!- Adelene is now known as Sleepdelene 00:34 <@Sleepdelene> also me 00:35 < Verdancy> Good night, Adelene. 00:35 < Andygal> godnight Adelene 00:35 < Sonata> Goodnights. 00:35 < Verdancy> I hope both of you have actual good dreams 00:35 * Teceler will endeavor to dream about Lizzie and Niryl taking over the Neath :P 00:35 <@Sleepdelene> <3 00:35 < Verdancy> heee 00:35 < Verdancy> <3 00:35 < Verdancy> (one time I had a nightmare about the Exsurgent virus being real) 00:35 < Teceler> [hugs] 00:35 < Evenstar> (aaaaaaAAAAA) 00:35 < Verdancy> *hugs* 00:35 < Evenstar> [hugs] 00:35 < Verdancy> *hugs* 00:35 < Verdancy> yes it was very aaa 00:35 < Teceler> (yeah, that. aaaa) 00:36 < Andygal> aaaaaaaaaa 00:36 < Verdancy> ... I think dream!me severely underreacted, though 00:36 < Teceler> well, was it normal for dream!you? 00:36 < Verdancy> anyway that is probably not what you want to hear right before you do to sleep 00:36 < Verdancy> ...dream!me's tend to underreact, yeah :P 00:37 < Teceler> [hug] 00:37 < Evenstar> Tag, Sonata <3 00:37 < Andygal> what did dream-you do? 00:37 < Verdancy> One time I had a dream wherein I was a fluffy stuffed animal and the dream was basically an reenaction of the Harry Potter plot with animated stuff animals! 00:37 < Verdancy> *hugs* 00:37 < Sonata> I don't really have /nightmares/ as such, even when the content of my dreams is objectively something bad/scary 00:37 < Sonata> ooh that sounds cool V 00:37 < Verdancy> it was! 00:37 * Teceler refrains from talking about her worse nightmares. (I think the worst one for my sleep cycle was the one that for reasons I will not go into sleeping was a /very bad idea/) 00:38 < Verdancy> :( 00:38 < Verdancy> hugs? 00:38 < Teceler> [hugs] 00:38 < Teceler> that was a while ago 00:38 < Verdancy> *hugs* 00:38 < Andygal> My dreams sometimes end in panic attacks out of nowhere. 00:38 < Evenstar> [hugs] 00:38 < Verdancy> hugs? 00:38 < Andygal> (hugs) 00:38 < Teceler> but I kind of distinctly remember that 00:38 < Teceler> [hugs] 00:38 < Verdancy> *hugs* 00:38 < Verdancy> *hugs for all* 00:38 * Evenstar mostly forgets her bad dreams. She is both annoyed and relieved by this. 00:38 < Verdancy> and to all a good night. 00:38 < Teceler> such hugs 00:38 < Teceler> pfft 00:39 * Sonata sympathies for Evenstar on Ingram's behalf. 00:40 < Teceler> anyway! sleep! sleep is important! 00:40 < Teceler> good night all 00:40 < Verdancy> Good night, Teceler. 00:40 < Verdancy> Sleep well. 00:40 < Teceler> thank you 00:40 < Teceler> you too 00:40 < Verdancy> <3 00:41 -!- Teceler is now known as Teceler|Asleep 00:41 < Verdancy> ...rambling about nightmares and such can happen in #wetmoose maybe 00:41 < Verdancy> ...darn Kappa's not here 00:42 < Verdancy> He would have thought that was funny 00:42 < Sonata> tag Evenstar 00:42 < Sonata> heee 00:47 < Evenstar> tag, Sonata 00:47 < Evenstar> ... Wetmoose? 00:48 < Sonata> kappa tags her dream posts on tumblr #couldn't move wet moose 00:48 < Verdancy> Kappa's tag for her enter 00:48 < Verdancy> ninja'd 00:49 < Verdancy> because of an incident in which dream!Kappa could not move a wet stuffed animal with her telekinetic or possibly mind control powers 00:49 < Verdancy> Kappa has very entertaining dreams 00:49 < Verdancy> in my opinion 00:50 < sigma> That sounds like a Jane Broken message 00:50 < Evenstar> hee 00:51 < Evenstar> "couldn't move wet moose" /does/ sound like an interesting error message 00:51 < Andygal> Teceler: sent you an action on FL 00:51 < Verdancy> hee 00:52 < Verdancy> Teceler is a sleeping Teceler right now, though 00:52 < Andygal> yeah darn, forgot. 00:52 * Verdancy nods 00:52 < Andygal> Oh well, not urgent or anything 00:52 < Verdancy> ...do you want details on terrifying exsurgent nightmare? 00:53 < Andygal> ... 00:53 < Sonata> tag, Evenstar 00:53 < Verdancy> I only ask because 00:54 < Verdancy> <Andygal> what did dream-you do? 00:54 < Andygal> I um, don't think I want a lot of detail. 00:54 < Verdancy> I will not be regaling uninterested parties with scary dream stories 00:54 < Andygal> actually 00:54 < Verdancy> particularly not this time of night 00:55 < sigma> The worst dreams I remember are usually the ones with the fake wake-up loop. 00:55 < Verdancy> eesh 00:55 < Verdancy> hugs? 00:55 < Andygal> Ugh those. 00:55 < Andygal> I hate those ones. 00:55 < Evenstar> sigma: Argh, I hate those 00:56 < Evenstar> I have had days where I went from breakfast to lunch and then woke up 00:56 < Verdancy> eesh 00:56 < Evenstar> It is so annoying. 00:56 < Verdancy> hugs? 00:56 < sigma> I won't turn down hugs. But it's been a while so they're not fresh in my mind. 00:57 < Verdancy> *hugs* 00:57 < sigma> *hug* 00:57 < Verdancy> yay hugs 00:58 < sigma> The odd one I had recently was a bit different. Somebody prefer I describe or not? 00:58 < Verdancy> #wetmoose ? 00:58 < Verdancy> for easy opt-in/out? 00:58 < sigma> Sure, why not. 00:59 < Evenstar> I am going to bed 00:59 < Evenstar> night all 01:00 < Verdancy> Good night, Evenstar. 01:00 < Evenstar> Night! <3 01:00 < Verdancy> <3 01:01 < Andygal> goodnight Evenstar 01:02 < sigma> Yes, good night! 01:02 < Sonata> goodnight 01:05 -!- Evenstar has quit 01:26 < sigma> The dream I described in wetmoose was a couple weeks ago. I've actually had a pretty great night the last couple nights. 01:27 < Verdancy> that is good! 01:27 < Verdancy> :) 01:28 < Andygal> (hug) 01:37 < Verdancy> it is sleeptime 01:37 < Andygal> goodnight 01:37 < Verdancy> good night, everyone 01:37 -!- Verdancy is now known as VerdanZzz 01:38 < VerdanZzz> gnight Andygal 01:39 < sigma> Good night Verdancy 01:39 < VerdanZzz> gnight Sigma 01:40 < sigma> Thanks for chatting dreams with me :) 01:40 < Andygal> :) 01:40 < VerdanZzz> you're welcome :) 02:03 -!- sigma_ has joined #backstage 02:04 -!- sigma has quit 02:15 -!- sigma_ has quit 02:25 -!- Sonata has quit 02:47 -!- Andygal has quit
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Post by Mother Starlight on Sept 1, 2015 17:17:28 GMT
03:32 -!- Kelsewhere has joined #backstage 03:35 -!- Kelsewhere has quit 03:59 -!- PDV has quit 04:30 -!- Kelsewhere has joined #backstage 05:29 -!- ErinFlight has joined #backstage 05:29 -!- ErinFlight has quit 05:37 -!- linkhyrule5 has quit 06:44 -!- FacelessWork has joined #backstage 06:45 < FacelessWork> Salutations fellow humans 07:44 -!- Kelsewhere is now known as Kel 07:44 < Kel> Morning 07:46 < FacelessWork> o 07:46 < FacelessWork> *o/ 07:46 < Kel> \o 07:50 < FacelessWork> I finally gave in and I am going to start fallen london tonight 07:50 < FacelessWork> well not gave in, but you know xP 07:51 < Kel> XD 07:52 < Kel> on the plus side, it sorta limits how much of your time it can eat? 07:52 < Kel> protip: if you find yourself staring at the action candle timer waiting for 10 minutes to pass, that is a sign to take a break, unless you brain differently than I do in that respect 07:54 < FacelessWork> I am certain that I will be able to find other stuff to do 07:54 * FacelessWork looks terrariaward 07:54 < Kel> pfft 07:58 -!- kappabeta has joined #backstage 07:58 -!- mode/#backstage [+o kappabeta] by ChanServ 07:58 < Kel> Hi! 07:59 <@kappabeta> hi 08:01 < Kel> Teceler, tentative godsfire tag, I will see emails before ~11:50 probably and should be able to edit, also there are some free nighmares in FL for you 08:02 < Kel> and now I must school 08:02 < Kel> bye! 08:02 -!- Kel is now known as Kelsewhere 08:05 -!- Kelsewhere has quit 08:12 < FacelessWork> late hi o/ 08:16 -!- FacelessWork has quit 08:25 -!- FacelessWork has joined #backstage 08:27 < FacelessWork> hi once again 09:04 -!- Kelsewhere has joined #backstage 09:12 -!- Sleepdelene is now known as Workdelene 09:50 -!- FacelessWork is now known as FacelessFood 09:51 -!- Teceler|Asleep is now known as Teceler 09:58 -!- Sky has joined #backstage 10:56 -!- Thatwasademo has joined #backstage 10:57 -!- Thatwasademo is now known as Xom 10:57 < FacelessFood> o/ 11:09 -!- Eva has joined #backstage 11:09 < Teceler> Evenstar? 11:10 -!- Eva is now known as Evenstar 11:10 < Evenstar> got it in one :P 11:10 < Teceler> hello 11:10 < Teceler> I was just thinking 'I wish Evenstar was here, I have questions for them about amounts-of-takkarash for things' XD 11:12 * Teceler pokes at her numbers. 11:13 * Evenstar does tend to be summonable like that :P 11:13 < Teceler> XD 11:13 < Evenstar> :p 11:13 <@kappabeta> i have occasionally wondered if evenstar actually spies on the channel somehow, but even that would not explain a telepathic summons XD 11:13 <@kappabeta> what is your secret XD 11:13 <@kappabeta> <3 11:13 < Teceler> XD 11:15 < Evenstar> My secret is that I am just always on and off, and so I am likely to pop in when people are thinking about me :P 11:15 <@kappabeta> hehehe 11:15 < Teceler> pft 11:16 < Evenstar> Selection bias does the rest :P 11:16 < Evenstar> At least, that is how I choose to explain my magic powers *wiggles fingers* 11:16 <@kappabeta> i'm still not totally sure you don't spy on the channel XD 11:17 < Evenstar> (I am not quite /that/ nefarious :P) 11:17 <@kappabeta> XD 11:17 < Teceler> XD 11:22 -!- Andygal has joined #backstage 11:22 < Andygal> Hi 11:23 < Teceler> hello Andygal 11:23 < FacelessFood> o/ 11:48 -!- Sonata has joined #backstage 11:48 -!- mode/#backstage [+o Sonata] by ChanServ 11:48 -!- Sonata has quit 11:48 -!- Sonata has joined #backstage 11:48 -!- mode/#backstage [+o Sonata] by ChanServ 11:48 < Evenstar> Hi Sonata! you have a boxtag. :3 11:48 <@Sonata> oooh thank you! 11:49 < Andygal> Hi Sonata 11:51 < Teceler> hello soanta 11:51 < Teceler> *sonata 11:51 <@Sonata> good morning all 11:52 < Evenstar> Good morning <3 11:58 -!- Eva has joined #backstage 11:58 < Eva> *sighs at connection* 11:59 -!- Mornstar has joined #backstage 11:59 < Mornstar> Sonata, mind kicking my ghosts? 11:59 < Mornstar> >.> 11:59 < Teceler> ...wow 11:59 < Andygal> .... 11:59 * Teceler gently scolds Evenstar's internet 11:59 -!- Eva was kicked from #backstage by Sonata [Kicked by Sonata] 11:59 -!- Evenstar was kicked from #backstage by Sonata [Kicked by Sonata] 12:00 -!- Mornstar is now known as Evenstar 12:03 -!- Mornstar has joined #backstage 12:05 < Teceler> brb 12:06 < Andygal> pffft 12:06 -!- Evenstar has quit 12:08 < Teceler> bk 12:08 -!- Mornstar has quit 12:08 < Teceler> ... 12:12 < Andygal> ... 12:16 < FacelessFood> "..."? 12:16 < Teceler> Evenstar's connection 12:16 < Andygal> Evenstar is having connection issues apparently 12:17 < FacelessFood> I see 12:19 -!- PDV has joined #backstage 12:19 -!- PDV is now known as PDVanished 12:24 -!- Evenstar has joined #backstage 12:24 < Evenstar> My conncetion is a butt. 12:24 < Evenstar> *connection 12:24 < Andygal> Hi again Evenstar. 12:24 < Evenstar> And now I am thinking about a really unfortunate forum interface. 12:24 < Andygal> did you reboot? 12:24 < Evenstar> Hi Andygal 12:24 < Evenstar> Nah 12:25 < Evenstar> Anyway yes, I will probably be vanishing 12:25 <@Sonata> Evenstar: tag 12:28 < Evenstar> Tag, Sonata 12:29 < Teceler> ...I think I need a spreadsheet for this 12:30 <@Sonata> tag, Evenstar 12:30 <@Sonata> Teceler, spreadsheet for what? 12:30 < Teceler> working out Niryl's takkarash 12:31 < Andygal> ..I should work out Anda's takkarash. 12:31 < Evenstar> tag, Sonata 12:31 < Andygal> because she is somewhat surprisingly inclined to buy some skylimes and grow skylimes. 12:32 < Andygal> (or make the gardeners grow them, rather) 12:34 < Evenstar> (Also Lizzie is being granted probationary god status by OTC) 12:35 < Teceler> pfffft 12:35 < Evenstar> (On the assumption that she'll improve her Elixir-generation process) 12:35 < Evenstar> (Probably using OTC products) 12:35 < Evenstar> (:P) 12:36 < Teceler> XD 12:36 < Andygal> she should totally send them an Omni-plant and see if they can upgrade it to copy elixirs. 12:36 < Evenstar> (Sonata, I am going to leave for about an hour and a half soon(tm), so if you would like to tag do so soonish :P) 12:37 < Evenstar> (Unless you are willing to wait, ofc) 12:37 < Evenstar> Andygal: That seems like a thing the OTC could do! 12:37 < Evenstar> Probably involving some interesting magical genetics and some specialized help. 12:37 < Teceler> maybe not a thing Lizzie /would/ do, though, not sure 12:37 < Teceler> pfft 12:38 < Andygal> Tec: that's why I suggested she send it to the OTC! 12:38 < Evenstar> ... You know, we really need to get Lizzie, Inavet and Lioncourt together in the same room at some point for Magical Botany 12:38 < Evenstar> Oh, and of course 12:38 < Teceler> Andygal: no, I mean, sending it to the OTC 12:38 < Evenstar> Botanical Engineer 12:38 < Evenstar> Who only has the profession in her NAME 12:38 < Evenstar> >.> 12:38 -!- FacelessFood has quit 12:38 < Evenstar> <.< 12:38 < Andygal> A Magical Botanist club! 12:38 < Evenstar> And /is/ a plant 12:39 < Evenstar> (She's a plant!) 12:39 < Evenstar> (A plant in this organization!) 12:39 < Andygal> I c what you did there 12:39 < Evenstar> (That was about the level of respect that pun deserved, yes) 12:39 < Evenstar> :P 12:40 < Evenstar> Anyways, I am now off 12:40 < Evenstar> ta ta all 12:40 < Andygal> Later Evenstar 12:40 <@Sonata> bye 12:40 -!- Evenstar has quit 12:40 < Teceler> luck 12:52 -!- Workdelene is now known as Adelene 14:14 -!- VerdanZzz is now known as Verdancy 14:16 -!- PotentialVerdancy has joined #backstage 14:16 < Verdancy> ping 14:16 -!- PotentialVerdancy has quit 14:16 < Andygal> Pong 14:17 < Verdancy> Hi Andygal! 14:17 < Andygal> Hi 14:17 < Verdancy> (Internet was being weird) 14:17 < Andygal> :p 14:17 < Andygal> Internet troubles seem to be going around today 14:17 < Andygal> Evenstar was having some earlier 14:22 * Verdancy nods 14:28 -!- Evenstar has joined #backstage 14:29 < Evenstar> Tag, Sonta 14:29 < Evenstar> *Sonata 14:29 < Verdancy> Hi Evenstar! 14:29 < Andygal> wb Evenstar 14:30 * Andygal needs food, maybe then will have brain to do things 14:30 < Evenstar> Hi Andygal, Verdancy 14:31 <@Sonata> tag, Evenstar 14:33 < Evenstar> Tag, Sonata 14:36 <@Sonata> tag, Evenstar 14:38 -!- Evenstar has quit 14:41 -!- NoFace_dr_bibble has joined #backstage 14:41 < NoFace_dr_bibble> o/ 14:41 <@Sonata> What's up, doc? 14:42 < Verdancy> Hi Faceless! 14:43 < NoFace_dr_bibble> things: how are they? 14:43 -!- Evenstar has joined #backstage 14:43 < Evenstar> (Connection continues to be spotty because IPad) 14:44 -!- Evenstar has quit 14:47 < Teceler> brb 14:47 -!- Evenstar has joined #backstage 14:47 < Evenstar> Tag, Sonata 14:49 -!- Evenstar has quit 14:53 -!- Evenstar has joined #backstage 14:53 < Evenstar> Tag, sonata 14:57 -!- Mornstar has joined #backstage 14:58 -!- Evenstar has quit 15:03 < Mornstar> (Tag, Sonata) 15:03 < Mornstar> (in case my connection killed my last one) 15:03 <@Sonata> tag, Mornstar 15:05 < Mornstar> Tag, Sonata 15:05 -!- MTC has quit 15:05 < Teceler> Mornstar: how many eternal car batteries did Lizzie get? (she listed 'four eternal car batteries' twice) 15:05 < Verdancy> which was an accident on my part but like 15:05 < Mornstar> Teceler: Eight. 15:06 < Verdancy> more eternal car batteries probs can hurt 15:06 < Verdancy> okay! 15:06 < Mornstar> (I am suprised that nobody else has bought an eternal car battery yet) 15:06 < Verdancy> I am too! 15:06 < Mornstar> (They are literally free energy, that is why they are so expensive) 15:06 < Verdancy> ~such cheating~ 15:06 < Teceler> XD 15:06 < Teceler> Eclipse: no. 15:06 < Verdancy> down with entropy 15:06 < Verdancy> heeeeeeeeeeeeee 15:07 < Teceler> XD 15:07 < Mornstar> (And they come from the same dimension as the Pasta Spoon of Peril) 15:08 <@Sonata> tag, Mornstar 15:08 < Andygal> Anda and Linsa have no use for batteries, and Singer has no money currently. 15:08 < Mornstar> (Incidentally, if you have MP and you grab both terminals of an Eternal Car Battery, you will mysteriously regain your mana!) 15:08 < Mornstar> (And also electrocute yourself, but ehhhh) 15:08 <@Sonata> ...awesome 15:08 <@Adelene> pfff 15:08 < Andygal> pfffft 15:08 < Mornstar> (That only works once per day though) 15:09 < Mornstar> (It takes time to regenerate magical charge) 15:09 < Andygal> How seriously do you get electrocuted? 15:09 <@Sonata> (that sounded more sarcastic than i meant, i should say:) 15:09 <@Sonata> ... 15:09 <@Sonata> AWESOME 15:09 <@Adelene> Once per day per person, or once per day per battery? 15:09 < Mornstar> About as badly as if you had grabbed both terminals of a car battery. 15:09 < Mornstar> Once per day per battery. 15:09 -!- ErinFlight has joined #backstage 15:09 < ErinFlight> Hello people! 15:09 < Verdancy> Lizzie intends to get significant use out of the Greek Pasta Spoon of Peril 15:09 <@Sonata> Can multiple people use the same battery like that in the same day? 15:10 < Verdancy> Hi Erinflight! 15:10 < Andygal> Hi Erinflight 15:10 <@Sonata> Hi ErinFlight 15:10 < Teceler> hello ErinFlight 15:10 < Mornstar> Sonata: No, because it needs to recharge in the meantime. 15:10 < ErinFlight> "Greek pasta spoon of peril"? That sounds awesome 15:10 <@Sonata> It's on the OTC's goods list 15:10 < Mornstar> It hurls spaghetti napalm. 15:10 < Mornstar> Also perfectly seasons any pasta dish to taste. 15:11 < Teceler> brb 15:11 < ErinFlight> Is it tasty napalm? 15:11 < Verdancy> k 15:11 < Mornstar> It /is/ 15:11 < NoFace_dr_bibble> late hi to erinflight o/ 15:11 <@Sonata> (but please be careful not to burn your mouth) 15:11 < ErinFlight> Hey! 15:11 < Verdancy> I almost had Lizzie say "y'know usually when people throw napalm at me I don't taste it but whatevs" 15:11 < Andygal> do not eat the tasty napalm 15:11 < ErinFlight> I should try posting on the MWF again 15:12 < ErinFlight> This sounds hilarious 15:12 <@Sonata> doo eet 15:12 < ErinFlight> Since I've already done the intro thread, how do you start doing interesting things? (Maybe I should try a more interesting character) 15:13 <@Sonata> you have several options 15:13 <@Sonata> you could engage with other people (e.g. comment when they talk about stuff, buy stuff from otc) 15:14 < Teceler> bk 15:14 < ErinFlight> I take it that you guys keep running inventories? 15:14 <@Sonata> you could post about stuff in your world (e.g. physics, politics, magic system), possibly requesting and/or offering help 15:14 < NoFace_dr_bibble> erinflight consider get character's birth blessing sorted o/ 15:15 < NoFace_dr_bibble> btw, are people using the blessings? 15:15 < Teceler> none of mine have them yet 15:16 -!- Mornstar has quit 15:17 < ErinFlight> All of you guys have such fascinating worlds for your characters. 15:17 < ErinFlight> It's impressive. 15:18 < ErinFlight> Would helping my character Flynn figure out how her magic system works be interesting do you think? 15:18 <@Sonata> Many of us cheat by fanficcing other people's stuff. 15:18 < Sky> the selkies are drawing a bunch of blessings, not super organizedly but they like them and they're useful. 15:18 < Verdancy> hee 15:18 < Teceler> ErinFlight: quite possibly! 15:19 < ErinFlight> Ooh, ok. That could be fun. 15:20 < Andygal> One of my worlds is entirely fanfictional, except for the characters themselves and the other is loosely inspired by somebody else's work. 15:20 < NoFace_dr_bibble> Sky: Meta!amber is saying "yay!" 15:20 < ErinFlight> Andygal: Which one? 15:21 < ErinFlight> NoFace, why do you have so many names? 15:21 -!- Evenstar has joined #backstage 15:22 < Evenstar> (This connection >.>) 15:22 < Andygal> ErinFlight: Anda and Linsa's world is fanfictional, Singer's world is originalish but inspired by a novel series 15:22 < NoFace_dr_bibble> ErinFlight it protects me from name basd magic 15:22 < NoFace_dr_bibble> also, I cant pick one 15:22 * Evenstar protects against name based magic by being lots of people :P 15:23 < Verdancy> heeeeeeeeeee 15:23 * Evenstar gestures to her many, many alts 15:23 < ErinFlight> NoFace: Ooh, ok. I was wondering who this person I'd never heard of before was... Who else on here has a secret identity *shifty ideas* 15:23 < Verdancy> heeeeeeeeeeee 15:23 < ErinFlight> *eyes, not ideas. 15:23 * Verdancy might secretly be an uplifted copy of winrar 15:23 < Evenstar> Erinflight: Going by previous experience, probably me? 15:23 < Evenstar> :P 15:23 < ErinFlight> Evenstar: *inspects closely for clues* 15:23 <@Sonata> Evenstar, the panel clicking open: seen through the telescope, or in 'reality'? 15:24 < Evenstar> In 'reality' 15:24 < Evenstar> Despite there being no actual /mechanism/ 15:24 < Evenstar> That could tell she was using the lens 15:24 < Verdancy> ...how badly is this going to end? 15:25 < Evenstar> Verdancy: Regarding...? 15:25 <@Sonata> Evenstar: tag 15:25 < Verdancy> Ahrotahn 15:25 < Verdancy> ?seeking? the Name 15:25 -!- NoFace_dr_bibble is now known as FacelessBusy 15:25 < Evenstar> This isn't the Name here :P 15:25 <@Sonata> Ahrotahn is not seeking the Name that I know of 15:25 < Andygal> I do not have a secret identity. 15:25 < Verdancy> good 15:26 < Andygal> Ahrotahn should probably not find out about the Name. 15:26 < Verdancy> ...it still sounds like she is going after something detrimental to her sanity, though 15:26 * Verdancy considers 15:26 < Verdancy> yep 15:26 <@Sonata> (you shouldn't tell people you don't have a secret identity, it weakens privacy / plausible deniability for those of us that do) 15:27 < Teceler> away for a while probably on phone some 15:27 -!- Teceler is now known as Teceler|Away 15:27 < Verdancy> k 15:27 < Verdancy> Good luck? 15:27 < Evenstar> Tag, Sonata 15:27 < Evenstar> Verdancy: That remains to be seen 15:28 * Verdancy eyes Evenstar dubiously 15:28 < Evenstar> (Keep in mind, this is all provided by BT and OTC is not generally in the business of driving its customers insane) 15:28 <@Sonata> Evenstar, tag 15:29 -!- Evenstar has quit 15:29 -!- Evenstar has joined #backstage 15:29 < Evenstar> (Sorry, connection is a butt) 15:29 < Verdancy> that is not very reassuring 15:29 -!- Evenstar has quit 15:29 < Andygal> ... 15:29 < ErinFlight> Uh oh 15:30 < Verdancy> ? 15:30 -!- Evenstar has joined #backstage 15:31 < Evenstar> Tag, Sonata 15:31 < Verdancy> wb Evenstar 15:31 < Evenstar> Sorry, I think I missed a message from you? 15:31 < Evenstar> And hi :3 15:32 <@Sonata> Tag, Evenstar. 15:32 < Evenstar> (A small log would be appreciated) 15:32 -!- tecephone has joined #backstage 15:32 <@Sonata> (or maybe not, hold on) 15:32 <@Sonata> (You maybe-missed a tag from me earlier) 15:32 < Evenstar> (Nvm, I'm about to drop again when I respond to sonata) 15:32 <@Sonata> (nope) 15:32 -!- Evenstar has quit 15:33 -!- Evenstar has joined #backstage 15:33 < Evenstar> It looks like it is your tag? 15:33 < ErinFlight> I posted in the intro thread as Flynn 15:33 <@Sonata> yep, sorry. 15:33 <@Sonata> Though tag now. 15:33 < ErinFlight> I could actually make the threads a character too at some point... 15:33 < Evenstar> Lol ok 15:33 -!- Evenstar has quit 15:38 < FacelessBusy> ErinFlight, the threads wouldnt be the weirdest forum members yet 15:38 < FacelessBusy> I wonder if esthfora can block them? 15:38 < Andygal> Esthfora can probably block them! 15:39 < Verdancy> pfft Faceless 15:39 <@kappabeta> what would esthfora be blocking? 15:39 < ErinFlight> The threads 15:39 < FacelessBusy> flynn threads 15:39 < FacelessBusy> they fall on the class of things 15:39 < ErinFlight> FacelessBusy: You are the man of many names 15:39 < FacelessBusy> that make esthfora make faces 15:40 < FacelessBusy> ErinFlight, I know 15:40 < FacelessBusy> and I have to pick one for Fallen London too? 15:42 < ErinFlight> You do! You could also just make an account for every name 15:43 < FacelessBusy> lol 15:44 < FacelessBusy> I am going with... FacelessLondoner I think 15:44 < Andygal> Ha. 15:44 <@Sonata> heee 15:44 < ErinFlight> That works! 15:45 < ErinFlight> Are you going to be shadowy, dangerous, persuasive, watchful? Should I tell my character to run far, far away? 15:45 < tecephone> Pfft 15:45 < FacelessBusy> I still not sure, but shadowy sounds like a good idea? 15:45 < FacelessBusy> not sure what each entails 15:46 <@Sonata> shadowy is criminal/underworld type activities 15:46 < Andygal> and also spying. 15:46 <@Sonata> dangerous is violence, combat, brute force, strength, physical hardiness 15:46 <@Sonata> persuasive is social, literary/poetic, hedonistic 15:46 < Andygal> Persuasive is social, watchful is intellectual. 15:47 <@Sonata> watchful is intellectual, detective work, somewhat aligned with the police 15:47 < tecephone> Persuasive also art 15:47 <@Sonata> espionage is a combination of persuasive/watchful i think 15:48 < ErinFlight> In watchful you also tend to work for the police a lot. Watchful and shadowy isn't the best combination 15:50 -!- Evenstar has joined #backstage 15:50 < Evenstar> Tag, Sonata 15:50 < Evenstar> (1/3!) 15:55 <@Sonata> tag, Evenstar 15:55 < Evenstar> The drawer does not open! 15:56 < Evenstar> For reasons that I will explain shortly. 15:56 < Evenstar> Can you edit your tag? 15:56 -!- tecephone has left #backstage 15:56 * Sonata goes to edit 15:57 < FacelessBusy> any of the routes is more fun? 15:57 -!- tecephone has joined #backstage 15:57 <@Sonata> retag 15:59 -!- Evenstar has quit 16:00 < FacelessBusy> ttyl 16:00 -!- FacelessBusy has quit 16:08 -!- Evenstar has joined #backstage 16:08 < Evenstar> Tag, Sonata 16:12 <@Sonata> tag, Evenstar 16:12 -!- Evenstar has quit 16:13 -!- Evenstar has joined #backstage 16:13 < Evenstar> Tag, Sonata 16:15 -!- Evenstar has quit 16:16 -!- Evenstar has joined #backstage 16:22 <@Sonata> Evenstar: tag 16:28 -!- Evenstar has quit 16:33 -!- FacelessXorcon has joined #backstage 16:33 < FacelessXorcon> Hello again humans o/ 16:33 < Verdancy> Hi! 16:34 < Andygal> Hullo 16:41 < FacelessXorcon> starting FL 16:43 < Verdancy> Luck! 16:44 -!- Evenstar has joined #backstage 16:44 < Evenstar> Tag, Sonate 16:44 < Evenstar> *sonata 16:44 < tecephone> Luck faceless 16:44 < FacelessXorcon> thanks 16:45 -!- Evenstar has quit 16:46 < Verdancy> Kappa, can Lizzie ask Esthfora questions re: Correspondence before she goes? 16:46 <@kappabeta> what sorts of questions 16:47 < Verdancy> um 16:47 < Verdancy> <tecephone> Mozee might have problems if certain people try to break thorough.not sure 16:48 < Verdancy> <Sky> from what I understand about FL so far, it shouldn't be a problem, but I might have missed something. certain people? 16:48 < Verdancy> <tecephone Like. The dawn machine 16:48 <@kappabeta> ??? 16:48 < Verdancy> tecephone The Bazaar. any star. Maybe the Masters 16:48 < Verdancy> (from #correspondence) 16:49 < Verdancy> ...should I keep pasting? 16:49 < tecephone> Mozee can handle them if they close the portal 16:49 < tecephone> Was the conclusion 16:49 < tecephone> Butcharacters don't know that 16:50 -!- Evenstar has joined #backstage 16:50 < tecephone> Also, like, Lizzie may have questions about other things? Like inventory? 16:50 * Verdancy nods 16:53 < Evenstar> Tag, Sonata (?) 16:53 -!- Evenstar has quit 16:53 -!- Evenstar has joined #backstage 16:56 -!- Evenstar has quit 16:56 -!- Evenstar has joined #backstage 17:01 -!- Evenstar has quit 17:10 < tecephone> Andygal? 17:11 < Andygal> Hmm? 17:11 -!- linkhyrule5 has joined #backstage 17:12 < tecephone> Come help me explain the correspondence? 17:34 -!- ErinFlight has quit 17:36 -!- Teceler|Away is now known as Teceler 17:39 -!- PDVanished has quit 17:40 -!- PDV has joined #backstage 17:53 < Verdancy> I need to go food 17:53 < Verdancy> Be back soonish hopefully 17:54 < Teceler> ENJOY 17:54 < FacelessXorcon> good luck with food 17:54 < Teceler> ER 17:54 < Teceler> enjoy 17:54 -!- Verdancy is now known as Verdancy|Away 17:54 < Verdancy|Away> heeeeee 17:54 * Verdancy|Away aways 18:10 <@kappabeta> E N J O Y 18:10 <@kappabeta> XD 18:45 -!- sigma has joined #backstage 18:45 < sigma> Hi MWF 18:45 <@Sonata> hi 18:49 < FacelessXorcon> hey, who is in Fallen London? I am FacelessLondoner there 18:49 < Teceler> Niryl 18:50 <@Sonata> I am, and several other people, have you seen the etherpad? 18:50 <@Sonata> Mira Venefica 18:50 < Teceler> FacelessXorcon: come to #Correspondence 18:52 < sigma> MWF folks, can you advise me on something kind to say to an Asperger's guy who says he hates other autism-spectrum guys and can't stand being around them because they remind him of what society thinks of him? :( 18:54 < sigma> He's in Minnesota and he's lonely there and it's sad 18:57 < sigma> It's awful that culture can make people think things like that. 18:59 < sigma> Oops did I just sadbomb chat 19:01 <@Sonata> ummm 19:01 <@Sonata> I dunno what to say 19:01 <@Sonata> I mean 19:01 < FacelessXorcon> I can't help, but I am not sadbombed 19:01 <@Sonata> if someone doesn't want to interact with someone then they're not obligated to, regardless of reasons 19:03 < sigma> Maybe there isn't much to say 19:03 -!- Kelsewhere is now known as Kel 19:03 < Kel> hi! 19:03 < Teceler> hello Kel! 19:03 < Kel> ooh I can edit godsfire! 19:04 < Kel> Also, FL!DL is investigating things that should NOT be investigated probably 19:04 < Kel> he is in a state of some confusion! 19:04 < sigma> I said "I hope you don't have to be around them much", and "society sucks sometimes", and offered an internet hug. 19:05 < Teceler> Kel: [hugs for FL!DL] 19:05 < Kel> [FL!DL is hugged] 19:30 -!- linkhyrule5 has quit 19:31 -!- Kel is now known as Kelsupper 19:31 < Kelsupper> back in a bit 19:31 < Teceler> enjoy 19:57 -!- Kelsupper is now known as Kel 19:58 < Teceler> wb Kel 19:58 < Kel> thanks! 20:18 -!- PDV has quit 20:34 * Teceler observes addition to welcome 20:34 < Teceler> pfft 20:34 < Kel> oooh the forum 20:34 < Kel> THE FORUM THE FORUM! 20:35 < Kel> hahahahahaha 20:35 < Kel> FAQ 20:35 < Kel> XD 20:35 <@Sonata> :D 20:35 < Kel> Sonata this is excellent well done 20:35 < Kel> <3 20:35 <@Sonata> Thank you <3 20:38 < Teceler> it is excellent 20:55 < FacelessXorcon> What faq? 20:55 < Kel> check the forum 20:55 < Kel> in announcements 20:55 < Teceler> ...my phone is still connected 20:55 < Teceler> oops 20:56 < Kel> bye tecephone? 20:56 < FacelessXorcon> hauahauhauhua 20:56 -!- tecephone has quit 20:56 * Teceler coughs. 20:56 < Teceler> /you saw nothing/ 20:56 < Teceler> :P 20:56 < Kel> XD 20:56 < Kel> what phone? 20:56 < FacelessXorcon> I aprove Sonata and Kappa 20:56 < FacelessXorcon> xD 20:57 <@Sonata> :D 21:07 -!- PDV has joined #backstage 21:07 <@Sonata> hi PDV 21:07 <@Sonata> Pleasant day, V? 21:09 < Teceler> hello PDV 21:09 -!- PDV has quit 21:10 < Kel> aw 21:17 < Teceler> Kel: tag 21:18 < Kel> Eee tag! 21:18 < Andygal> eee tags! 21:21 -!- sigma has quit 21:33 -!- Verdancy|Away is now known as Verdancy 21:33 < Verdancy> I exist again 21:33 < Teceler> welcome back! 21:33 < Kel> Yay! 21:33 < Kel> Welcome back! 21:33 < Verdancy> thanks! :) 21:33 < Andygal> Hi! 21:36 < Kel> FacelessXorcon, just so you know, Inkspot just got back to Aspen and there will soon be a PMthread about birth blessings 21:37 < Kel> I know what the blessings are for ghost!Aspen and alive!Aspen but I still haven't decided which should appear 21:37 < Kel> do you have preferences as setting-author on the forum? 21:42 < FacelessXorcon> honestly, it is a unique-enough situation that I have a hard time telling which is better. I feel that both are valid given the interacting concepts 21:47 < FacelessXorcon> Inkspot got her blessing sorted? 21:48 < Kel> ? 21:48 < FacelessXorcon> her birth blessings* 21:48 <@Sonata> In that case, perhaps the soul prime notices the ambiguity and has the choice of which to draw for? 21:48 < Kel> Faceless would that work? 21:49 < FacelessXorcon> Sure 21:49 < FacelessXorcon> albeit, I must say that I like that alternative mostly because it is interesting xD 21:49 < Kel> XD 21:50 < Kel> otoh, is it actually name based or nickname based? 21:51 < Andygal> Amber is going to have to spill the beans at some point. 21:51 < Kel> Amber? 21:52 < Andygal> Amber is the character with the forum connection 21:52 <@Sonata> writeitdown? 21:52 < Kel> oh is Amber writeitdown? 21:52 < FacelessXorcon> It is nickname based 21:52 < FacelessXorcon> in general 21:52 < Kel> Aspen was not named Aspen when he was alive 21:52 < FacelessXorcon> a descriptor that is restrict enough could work 21:52 <@Sonata> What happens if Amber asks the prime to draw for Gabby Gums? 21:53 <@Sonata> (GG is a pseudonym shared between a group of writers) 21:53 < FacelessXorcon> "The person that currently goes by the name of Aspen" works 21:53 < Kel> ok 21:53 < Kel> I need to go music 21:53 < FacelessXorcon> Sonata, in that case the birth-blessing sorting fails and the Elay prime notices 21:53 < Kel> back in ~15 21:54 < FacelessXorcon> anyway 21:54 < FacelessXorcon> I have to sleep 21:54 < Andygal> Heh, the Mikus are not getting birth blessings. 21:54 < Teceler> sleep well 21:54 < FacelessXorcon> good night everyone o/ 21:54 < Andygal> goodnight Faceless 21:54 < Kel> goodnight! 21:55 -!- Kel is now known as Kelsewhere 21:55 -!- FacelessXorcon has quit 22:15 < Teceler> brb 22:15 < Verdancy> k 22:16 -!- musiKel has joined #backstage 22:17 < Verdancy> wb Kel! 22:17 < musiKel> thanks! 22:17 < musiKel> ... I keep complaining about nobody saying stuff on the forum but not actually saying stuff. oops 22:17 < Verdancy> hee 22:18 < Verdancy> it's okay 22:18 < Verdancy> ...Sky 22:18 < Verdancy> it occurs to me 22:18 < musiKel> but I want to actually write stuff 22:18 < Verdancy> that by the OTC's definition 22:18 < musiKel> the forum is fun 22:18 < Verdancy> Mozee is almost certainly a god 22:18 * Verdancy nods at Kel 22:18 < Sky> yep, I'm pretty sure 22:19 < Verdancy> ...they could do Lizzie's Ka cheating but /better/, probably 22:20 < Sky> probably pretty well, yeah. MoZ is lacking only motivation. 22:21 < musiKel> Amber could probably figure out which forum members are secretly the same person 22:21 < Verdancy> ... 22:21 < Verdancy> /are/ there any of those, though? 22:22 < Verdancy> I mean 22:22 < musiKel> maaaaybe 22:22 < Verdancy> ICly 22:22 < Verdancy> Kel 22:22 < Verdancy> Kel did you do the thing 22:22 < musiKel> yeah ICly 22:22 < musiKel> maayyybe 22:22 < musiKel> only once though 22:22 < Verdancy> heeee 22:22 -!- linkhyrule5 has joined #backstage 22:23 < Verdancy> Hi Link! 22:23 < musiKel> Link! HI@ 22:23 < musiKel> *Hi! 22:23 < Andygal> the Mikus are secretly not the same person. 22:23 < Andygal> Hi Link 22:23 < Verdancy> hee 22:23 < linkhyrule5> pfffff 22:23 < Verdancy> ...I'm not sure that's secret, though 22:23 < musiKel> I think maybe they /aren't/ 22:23 < musiKel> like they have different 22:23 < musiKel> soul music? 22:23 < linkhyrule5> musiKel - question 22:23 < musiKel> I think? 22:23 < musiKel> yes? 22:23 < linkhyrule5> uh 22:23 < linkhyrule5> right 22:23 < linkhyrule5> so 22:24 < linkhyrule5> fugues, symphonies, similar things 22:24 < linkhyrule5> you have a main refrain 22:24 < linkhyrule5> and then you have... [word] 22:24 < linkhyrule5> Alterations, plays upon, changes... 22:24 < musiKel> variations? 22:24 < linkhyrule5> there is an Official Music Theory Word, you see - yes! 22:24 < linkhyrule5> That's it! 22:24 < musiKel> :D 22:24 < linkhyrule5> I am being poetic with magic and I needed that word 22:24 < linkhyrule5> thanks! 22:24 < musiKel> yay! 22:24 < musiKel> you're welcome!~ 22:26 < musiKel> anyway, it is not very oosecret, but Cloaked (Anonymous) is secretly Feldspar Kite 22:27 < Verdancy> ....huh 22:28 <@Sonata> 'oosecret' <- wordclever +1 22:28 < musiKel> Cloaked is there to be attention drawing and mysterious and Feldspar Kite is to be used for Serious Business and not investigated 22:28 < musiKel> :D 22:28 < Verdancy> heeeeeeeee 22:29 < Verdancy> so this is really offtopic but 22:29 < Verdancy> I just thought everyone should know 22:29 < Verdancy> whenever someone from chat has to leave suddenly without giving a reason 22:29 < Verdancy> I imagine that they are secretly a superspy and must leave urgently to deal with enemy assassins 22:29 < musiKel> pfff 22:29 <@Sonata> heeee 22:30 < musiKel> I am not a superspy 22:30 -!- Sonata has left #backstage 22:30 < musiKel> XD 22:30 < Verdancy> Well that's what you would sa 22:30 -!- Sonata has joined #backstage 22:30 < Verdancy> pfffffffft 22:30 -!- mode/#backstage [+o Sonata] by ChanServ 22:30 < Sky> hahaha 22:30 < Verdancy> *say 22:30 < musiKel> <3 <3 22:30 < Verdancy> ahahahaha 22:30 < Verdancy> <3 <3 22:30 < Andygal> pfffft 22:31 < Andygal> If I ever have to leave suddenly without giving a reason it's probably because my dad is on my case. 22:31 < musiKel> [hugs iff wanted?] 22:32 < Andygal> Hugs currently unnecessary but appreciated anyway. 22:32 < musiKel> ok 22:32 -!- Verdancyy has joined #backstage 22:32 < musiKel> Verdancyy? 22:33 < musiKel> well. this is clearly a case of doppelgangers 22:33 < Verdancyy> Mibbit disconnected me 22:33 < Verdancyy> I think? 22:33 < musiKel> that is EVIL that must be triumphed over 22:33 < Verdancyy> Or the internet blipped 22:33 < Verdancyy> or something 22:33 < Verdancyy> i dunno 22:33 < Verdancyy> very coincidental timing though 22:33 -!- musiKel has quit 22:33 < Verdancyy> hee 22:33 < Verdancyy> o m g 22:34 -!- musiKel has joined #backstage 22:34 < musiKel> well that didn't work 22:35 < Verdancyy> ? 22:35 < Verdancyy> what were you trying to do? 22:35 < Teceler> bk 22:35 < musiKel> wb! 22:35 < Verdancyy> wb! 22:35 < Teceler> thanks 22:35 < Verdancyy> were there supervillains? 22:35 -!- Verdancy has quit 22:35 < musiKel> my mission to restore your true name 22:35 < musiKel> NEverminmd 22:35 -!- Verdancyy is now known as Verdancy 22:35 < musiKel> nothing was plann 22:35 < musiKel> *planned 22:36 < Verdancy> Success! 22:36 < musiKel> yay 22:36 < musiKel> I had to go to the bathroom. not. whatever I said 22:36 < Verdancy> pfft okay 22:36 < Teceler> Verdancy: pfffffft 22:39 * musiKel is done musicing 22:39 -!- musiKel has quit 22:43 -!- Kelsewhere is now known as Kel 22:43 < Verdancy> WB Kel! 22:43 < Kel> thx! 22:43 < Kel> :) 22:43 < Teceler> wb Kel 22:43 < Teceler> (wbish? [shrug]) 22:44 < Kel> XD 22:45 < Verdancy> :D 22:51 < linkhyrule5> <3 Sonata 22:51 <@Sonata> <3 22:52 < Teceler> link! hello! 22:52 < linkhyrule5> hello~ 22:52 < Andygal> What has Sonata done? 22:52 < Kel> Check Anouncements! 22:52 < Teceler> I'm assuming the FAQ 22:52 < linkhyrule5> oh Sonata, have you seen my smile-cast for Aisilian? 22:53 <@Sonata> is that the anime girl with doomy music? 22:53 < Kel> and I must asleep 22:53 < Kel> goodnight 22:53 < Teceler> oh 22:53 < Teceler> sleep well Kel 22:53 < Kel> thanks 22:54 <@Sonata> goodnight 22:54 < linkhyrule5> Sonata - yes 22:54 < linkhyrule5> the adorable girl with the cute smile and the music of doom. 22:55 < Andygal> goodnight Kel 22:55 -!- Kel is now known as Kelsleep 22:55 < Kelsleep> goodnightish 22:58 < Verdancy> Good night, Kel. 23:00 <@Sonata> I think I might turn in early too 23:00 <@Sonata> goodnight all 23:01 < Teceler> sleep well Soanta 23:01 < Teceler> *sonata 23:02 < Kelsleep> night 23:02 < Verdancy> Good night, Sonata. 23:03 -!- Sonata has quit 23:08 -!- Kelsleep has quit 23:24 -!- Sky has quit 23:42 -!- kappabeta has left #backstage --- Day changed Tue Sep 01 2015 00:08 -!- MTC has joined #backstage 01:27 -!- linkhyrule5 has quit 01:38 -!- Teceler is now known as Teceler|Asleep 01:38 -!- Verdancy is now known as VerdanZzz 01:38 * VerdanZzz beds 01:38 < VerdanZzz> Good night, everyone. <3 01:38 <@Adelene> Sleep well ^^ 01:38 < Andygal> goodnight 01:38 < VerdanZzz> :) 01:38 < VerdanZzz> gnight 02:46 -!- linkhyrule5 has joined #backstage
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Post by Mother Starlight on Sept 2, 2015 15:49:06 GMT
03:05 -!- Kelsewhere has joined #backstage 03:09 -!- Kelsewhere has quit 03:11 -!- Adelene has quit 03:23 -!- Adelene has joined #backstage 03:23 -!- mode/#backstage [+o Adelene] by ChanServ 04:40 -!- VerdanZzz has quit 06:57 -!- Kel has joined #backstage 07:04 -!- FacelessWork has joined #backstage 07:05 < FacelessWork> Salutations 07:05 < Kel> hi 07:05 < Andygal> Hey. 07:06 < FacelessWork> have I added you both to Fallen London yet? 07:11 < Andygal> I don't believe so. 07:11 < FacelessWork> gonna send you a calling card 07:13 < Kel> who is incanted? 07:13 < FacelessWork> samaya/anya she is a member of alicorn's forum 07:14 < FacelessWork> and on tumblr she is ApocalypticHero 07:14 < FacelessWork> I think 07:14 < Kel> ok 07:14 < FacelessWork> Kel, can I add you? 07:15 < Kel> sure! 07:20 -!- kappabeta has joined #backstage 07:20 -!- mode/#backstage [+o kappabeta] by ChanServ 07:58 < Kel> goodbye I am school 07:58 -!- Kel is now known as Kelsewhere 07:58 < Andygal> have fun at school? 07:59 -!- Kel has joined #backstage 08:02 -!- Kelsewhere has quit 08:03 -!- Kel has quit 08:14 -!- linkhyrule5 has quit 08:16 -!- Sky has joined #backstage 08:20 -!- Adelene has quit 08:53 -!- Adelene has joined #backstage 08:53 -!- mode/#backstage [+o Adelene] by ChanServ 08:53 -!- Adelene is now known as Busydelene 08:56 -!- Adelene has joined #backstage 08:56 -!- mode/#backstage [+o Adelene] by ChanServ 08:57 -!- Busydelene has quit 08:59 -!- Adelene has quit 09:04 -!- Kelsewhere has joined #backstage 09:05 -!- FacelessWork has quit 09:51 -!- Teceler|Asleep is now known as Teceler 10:10 -!- Kelsewhere has quit 10:50 -!- Butcher has joined #backstage 10:51 -!- Evenstar has joined #backstage 10:51 < Evenstar> Sonata: Tag 10:51 < Butcher> hi 10:51 < Evenstar> Hi Butcher! 10:51 < Teceler> hello Evenstar, hello butcher 10:51 < Butcher> long time no see. 10:52 < Butcher> new term... 10:52 < Butcher> new faces... 10:52 < Evenstar> Yep, same for me next week 10:52 < Evenstar> (I am amused by Lady Death having an array specifically to eat evil magic with) 10:53 < Butcher> Part of becoming a litch. 10:53 < Evenstar> (Because /of course/ she does) 10:53 < Butcher> Lich 10:53 < Teceler> Evenstar: do aetheroscopes have filters or anything for dealing with looking at ridiculous amounts of magic? Alternately, are there upgrades to do that? (this came up in discussion) 10:54 < Butcher> Of course the array won't work on the strands. They are friendly. 10:55 < Evenstar> Teceler: There's a 'sensitivity' knob, and there are broad-spectrum filters for some common types of magic. "Give me only animistic magic, give me only mana-based magic, give me only psionics, give me only..." 10:55 < Teceler> that is nice of it! 10:56 < Evenstar> Within individual magic systems you will probably need to purchase specialized filters. 10:56 < Evenstar> Like, if you are in D&D universe and want only Conjuration spells, you need a special filter for that. 10:56 < Evenstar> But the Aetheroscope will differentiate between wizards, druids, warlocks, and priests. 10:58 * Teceler nods. 10:58 < Andygal> Hi Butcher and Evenstar 10:59 < Evenstar> Hi Andygal! 10:59 < Evenstar> (I so want to do an Arabek sandbox at some point) 11:00 < Evenstar> >.> 11:00 < Evenstar> <.< 11:01 < Evenstar> (I have an idea for a messenger deity that's nibbling at me) 11:10 -!- Adelene has joined #backstage 11:10 -!- mode/#backstage [+o Adelene] by ChanServ 11:25 -!- FacelessWork has joined #backstage 11:25 < FacelessWork> o/ 11:25 < Andygal> Hi. 11:25 < Teceler> hello Faceless 11:26 < Andygal> I have come up with blessings for Linsa! 11:27 < FacelessWork> \o/ 11:27 < FacelessWork> which ones? 11:27 < Andygal> On googledocs sheet already 11:29 < FacelessWork> ok, can I post them tonight? 11:30 < FacelessWork> did Linsa asked publically for them or you sent a pm? 11:31 < Andygal> Anda will ask for herself and Linsa sometime soon 11:36 < FacelessWork> I shall wait 11:58 -!- Sonata has joined #backstage 11:58 -!- mode/#backstage [+o Sonata] by ChanServ 12:11 < Teceler> hello sonata 12:12 < Andygal> Hi 12:12 < Evenstar> Hi Sonata! 12:12 < Evenstar> you have boxtag :3 12:16 <@Sonata> ^_^ 12:29 <@Sonata> tag, Evenstar 12:32 * Sonata considers instantiating MS as an Arabek goddess 12:33 < Evenstar> Tag, Sonata 12:33 < Evenstar> (Arabek is such a good setting) 12:33 < Evenstar> (I am thinking about making a messenger goddess) 12:33 * Andygal imagines Esthfora as an Arabek goddess, too bad "rainbows" are not a biome. 12:34 <@kappabeta> esthfora does not be an arabek goddess 12:34 < Andygal> pfffft 12:36 <@Sonata> Evenstar, I'm having trouble visualizing this slot 12:36 < FacelessWork> kappabeta, not contexting, but why not? 12:37 <@kappabeta> esthfora is very herself and does not be any other things than that 12:37 <@kappabeta> the way her mind works isn't really supported by most other possible mental architectures 12:37 < Evenstar> Sonata: Okay, so the shelf is a large flat thing 12:38 < Andygal> If caves is a biome, a Singer alt would have a cave domain. 12:38 <@Sonata> Arabek!MS is river I think 12:38 < Evenstar> In the center of the flat thing is now an iron backing in the shape of a pair of diamonds <><> 12:38 < Evenstar> And the slot is aligned along that axis 12:39 < Evenstar> The slot is rectangular, with the short side facing the outer wall of the protruding box 12:39 < Evenstar> (Which, incidentally, is where the cross-shaped slot is.) 12:39 <@Sonata> I think I am more confused than I was before, can you possibly produce a screenshot? 12:40 < Evenstar> I will attempt to do so 12:42 < Evenstar> (uploading now) 12:42 < Andygal> (the caves would be nice caves full of nice edible mushrooms) 12:43 <@Sonata> (thank you!) 12:43 < Evenstar> (Whenever Imgur gets around to it...) 12:43 < Evenstar> (lol) 12:44 < Evenstar> http://i.imgur.com/Qqwdgoi.jpg 12:45 < Evenstar> (There) 12:47 <@Sonata> (Thank you!) 12:47 <@Sonata> Tag. 12:48 <@kappabeta> what's this all *from*? 12:48 <@Sonata> something called "The Room" apparently 12:48 < Evenstar> tag, Sonata 12:49 < Evenstar> (With edits by yours truly) 12:49 < Evenstar> (The game series is not yet complete so I am rebuilding the plot more or less on the fly so it has a real 'end', while trying to preserve it overall as best I can) 12:50 < FacelessWork> I am trying to think of biomes for Tama and Amber 12:50 <@Sonata> Evenstar: (and does pushing it in to flush leave enough room?) 12:50 < FacelessWork> except that "filled with train tracks" doesnt sound like a suitable biome xD 12:50 -!- Kelsewhere has joined #backstage 12:52 * Teceler pokes the potential!Kel (are you there, or is your connection just rejoining after a while?) 12:53 < Andygal> I don't think Arabek even has train tracks. 12:53 < Andygal> and it's not a biome so. 12:53 < FacelessWork> andygal, which only makes things worse 12:53 < Teceler> FacelessWork: some kind of hub, for Tama? 12:53 < FacelessWork> hub? 12:53 < Evenstar> Sonata: No. 12:54 < Andygal> perhaps a river system? 12:54 < Evenstar> (Want some time to think it over? I have to leave for about an hour and a half soonish) 12:54 <@Sonata> Is there anything in Ahrotahn's inventory besides the lens and the cross key? 12:54 < Teceler> central rivers, major port, or something, as the centerpoint of the domain 12:54 < Evenstar> Sonata: As you can see from the image, no. 12:56 < FacelessWork> Tec, that actually might work 12:56 <@Sonata> (I actually have to go in a few minutes too) 12:56 < Evenstar> (Alright then) 12:56 < FacelessWork> either that or maybe large flat plans that are easy to move through 12:56 < Evenstar> (I will leave you to puzzle in that case) 12:56 < FacelessWork> maybe a speed based power 12:57 < Andygal> Whereas the problem with Anda is that I don't have any strong biome associations for her. 12:57 <@Sonata> tag, Evenstar 12:58 < FacelessWork> Andygal: how about moutains /with/ caves? 12:59 < FacelessWork> what anda's acolyte power would be? 12:59 < Andygal> For Singer? Mmmm maybe. 12:59 < Andygal> and I don't know. 13:00 < Andygal> (Singer gets some kind of echolocation/blindsight power but I don't know whether that's blessing level or acolyte power level) 13:01 -!- Evenstar has quit 13:02 < FacelessWork> Andygal that sounds like acolyte level, but it might depend on the range 13:02 < Andygal> It would be a properly thematic acolyte power, certainly 13:04 < FacelessWork> somehow weak, but with preparation it could be very well used 13:04 < FacelessWork> just set a cave with a water entrace such that is hard to carry light inside and any invaders are blind :) 13:04 < Andygal> Yeah. 13:05 < Andygal> was thinking something like that. 13:06 < Andygal> (also useful for sneaking around at night) 13:07 < FacelessWork> or keep guard, and navigating around 13:07 < FacelessWork> if you can throw enhanced hearing in the mix, maybe even good spying 13:10 < Andygal> I was thinking enhanced hearing yes :) 13:12 < FacelessWork> cool, so with preparation it can be a quite potent ability 13:13 -!- Sonata has quit 13:22 -!- Teceler is now known as Teceler|Away 13:38 -!- tecephone has joined #backstage 13:38 < tecephone> Sorry for disappearing suddenly, lost track of time and ride was early 13:40 < Andygal> life happens 13:41 < tecephone> Mhm 13:44 < tecephone> 's quiet 13:44 < Andygal> Yeah 13:45 < FacelessWork> huh, what would be singer's blessings? 13:45 < FacelessWork> if she were a goddess I mean 13:45 < Andygal> I dunno all of them! 13:50 < FacelessWork> they are often enhanced X. Maybe something that helps surviving in the biome, enhanced danger sense, or something? 13:51 < Andygal> perhaps enhanced balance? For climbing? 13:52 < FacelessWork> I think it falls under "grace" but that works too 13:52 < Sky> cold resistance, some degree of echolocation? 13:53 < Andygal> was thinking about blindsight/echolocation as an acolyte power. 13:58 < FacelessWork> some anti-airsickness resistance? 14:00 -!- tecephone has quit 14:04 -!- tecephone has joined #backstage 14:40 -!- Eva has joined #backstage 14:40 -!- Eva is now known as Evenstar 14:42 < FacelessWork> hi eva o/ 14:42 < Andygal> Hi 14:43 -!- Evenstar has quit 15:10 -!- Kelsewhere is now known as Kel 15:10 < Kel> hi 15:10 -!- MTC has quit 15:10 < Kel> :( 15:12 < FacelessWork> ? 15:12 < FacelessWork> are you okay? 15:13 < Kel> yeah 15:13 < Kel> I was a little sad because I said hi and MTC's client exited 15:13 < Kel> er 15:13 < Kel> failed 15:13 < Kel> but now I am not because it looks like it was just a technical problem 15:16 < FacelessWork> ah, ok 15:23 -!- Teceler|Away is now known as Teceler 15:23 -!- tecephone has quit 15:35 < Kel> brain just suddenly really strongly wanted to make a 63 Magic Flute daemons AU person for the forum, and I have /no idea/ where that came from or why 15:35 < Teceler> [hug?] 15:36 < Kel> (I am not uspet, just kinda bewildered) 15:36 < Kel> but sure, [hug] 15:41 < FacelessWork> the what daemons? 15:42 < Kel> ? 15:42 < Kel> daemons like in HDM and Chamomile and Alethia 15:45 < FacelessWork> I was more interested in the 63 magic flute part 15:45 < Kel> oh 15:45 < Kel> 63 like the genders are changed 15:45 < Kel> and Magic Flute is an opera 15:45 < Kel> *the Magic Flute 15:45 < FacelessWork> oh, ok that makes me way less confused 15:46 < Kel> sorry for confusing word choice 15:46 < FacelessWork> no problem 15:46 < Kel> part of how I am convincing my brain that I /don't/ need to do it is that I don't remember most of the actual /plot/ 15:47 < Teceler> that is a reason not to do that 15:47 < Kel> XD 15:48 < Sky> (also you might need faces) 15:48 < Kel> XD 15:48 < Kel> yes that too 15:49 < Kel> and a working working magic system that I sorta understood 15:50 < FacelessWork> does it count as rule 63 if I just make cloudpine witches male? (they are actually exist in canon) 15:50 < FacelessWork> not an actual forum idea, just a widle musing 15:50 < Kel> rule 63 is usually that specific characters' genders change 15:51 < Kel> but it is a thing in sorta the same are 15:51 < Kel> *area 15:51 < Teceler> arguably you can rule 63 a setting, but, yeah 15:51 < Kel> right that too 15:53 < FacelessWork> (late but: actually existing*) 15:54 < FacelessWork> rule 63 the entire it of Alethia! all historical figures and celebrities are gender swapped! 15:54 < FacelessWork> it will be like Edda 15:54 < FacelessWork> xD 16:06 < FacelessWork> ttyl 16:06 -!- FacelessWork has quit 16:14 -!- linkhyrule5 has joined #backstage 16:17 < Kel> Hi Link! 16:18 < linkhyrule5> o/ 16:18 < Teceler> hello link! 16:18 < Kel> Teceler, tag! 16:18 < Teceler> yay tag! 16:37 -!- FacelessBellows has joined #backstage 16:37 < Kel> hi! 16:37 < Kel> or 16:37 < Kel> HIIIII! 16:37 < Teceler> hello again faceless? 16:37 < FacelessBellows> hi again 16:37 < Kel> that seems more appropriate 16:39 < FacelessBellows> Kel, did you listen today's Nightvale? 16:39 < Kel> yes 16:39 < Kel> ow 16:40 < FacelessBellows> I know! 16:40 < Kel> also all of my DB headcanons are completely officially wrong now 16:40 < FacelessBellows> which headcanons? 16:41 < Teceler> um 16:41 < Teceler> #spoilers please? 16:52 < FacelessBellows> (so just to make it clear to kel, I didn't really have much more to say about today's episode) 16:52 -!- Butcher has quit 16:54 < Kel> ok 16:56 -!- Kel is now known as Kelsewhere 16:56 < Kelsewhere> <Kel> thing I need to get done 16:56 < Kelsewhere> <Kel> back in a bit 17:13 <@kappabeta> who wants to help me pick icons, and/or look at an icon page and make admiring noises 17:14 < Teceler> bk 17:14 < Teceler> who are you iconing? 17:15 <@kappabeta> a new miles alt 17:15 <@kappabeta> http://gloriousdawn.dreamwidth.org/icons?sortorder=keyword 17:15 < Sky> I probably do 17:15 < Teceler> oh 17:15 <@kappabeta> i have a few problems with her emotional range still 17:15 < Teceler> that is a very miles username 17:15 <@kappabeta> :D 17:16 < FacelessBellows> isnt she a joker too? 17:17 < FacelessBellows> I mean that is Rosario Dawnson? 17:17 <@kappabeta> yes, that is rosario dawson 17:17 <@kappabeta> i cast her as a joker and then i cast her as a jokersherlock which necessitated casting her as a miles 17:17 < Teceler> ah! 17:18 <@kappabeta> i mean ~technically~ i could've avoided adding on the miles but this way is just so much more fun 17:18 <@kappabeta> hmm brb 17:18 < FacelessBellows> ok 17:23 * kappabeta kappaplops 17:24 * FacelessBellows facelesswelcomes 17:24 <@kappabeta> hee 17:24 < FacelessBellows> do you mind if I ask what is the context of this new Miles and Jokersherlock combo? 17:25 <@kappabeta> Puella Magi Madoka Magica 17:25 < FacelessBellows> oh, I pretty sure that one isnt tragic beyond words 17:25 <@kappabeta> ...XD 17:39 < FacelessBellows> Are they going to be short too? 17:41 <@kappabeta> as opposed to what 17:42 < FacelessBellows> ? 17:43 < FacelessBellows> I just wasnt clear if being short was a template attractor that affected every instance of the Miles-jokersherlock pair 17:43 <@kappabeta> it affects all of miles 17:48 < FacelessBellows> ok. I was confused because I think one of the miles is normal sized for a dwarf but it still a dwarf... 17:48 * FacelessBellows shrugs 17:49 <@kappabeta> the exact details of the attractor are complicated 17:49 < FacelessBellows> do tell 17:49 <@kappabeta> but in general, barring *exceptional* circumstances you aren't going to find a miles who is more than five feet tall 17:49 < FacelessBellows> huh 17:50 < FacelessBellows> how that affects the god miles? 17:50 < FacelessBellows> Isali-something? 17:50 <@kappabeta> Isalian 17:50 <@kappabeta> he can choose to be whatever size he likes 17:51 < FacelessBellows> I was half-expecting him to end up with a fight with some god and pick short human manifestations just to spite his enemy 17:52 <@kappabeta> that does not make very much sense 17:52 < FacelessBellows> yeah, thus the "half-expecting" 17:52 < FacelessBellows> it was mostly lack of other ideas 17:54 <@kappabeta> I think Isalian is just going to pick a form he likes 17:56 < Sky> this has reminded me that I'm curious about Sable's backstory, if you feel like describing it 17:56 <@kappabeta> how much do you know about sable's universe? 17:57 < Sky> I read the books 17:57 <@kappabeta> okay 17:57 -!- FacelessLondoner has joined #backstage 17:57 <@kappabeta> so, imagine the books, and now replace Dag with an Aral and Fawn with a Cordelia and she might not have been pregnant when they met but most of the plot went down *broadly* the same way 17:58 < FacelessLondoner> what did I miss? 17:59 <@kappabeta> and also the whole "being ground-ripped while under one of those nifty shields and also pregnant" thing had effects on Camellia's pregnancy 17:59 <@kappabeta> and that is just about the complete Sable backstory 17:59 -!- FacelessBellows has quit 17:59 < Sky> aha 18:00 < Sky> that does make sense 18:00 < FacelessLondoner> hi? 18:00 * FacelessLondoner pokes the chat 18:01 <@kappabeta> hi faceless 18:01 < Teceler> hello 18:02 -!- Sonata has joined #backstage 18:02 -!- mode/#backstage [+o Sonata] by ChanServ 18:02 < FacelessLondoner> Could someone copy the chat since the last time FacelessBellows spoke? 18:03 <@kappabeta> (6:54:15 PM) kappabeta: I think Isalian is just going to pick a form he likes 18:03 <@kappabeta> (6:56:33 PM) Sky: this has reminded me that I'm curious about Sable's backstory, if you feel like describing it 18:03 <@kappabeta> (6:56:54 PM) kappabeta: how much do you know about sable's universe? 18:03 <@kappabeta> (6:57:09 PM) Sky: I read the books 18:03 <@kappabeta> (6:57:13 PM) kappabeta: okay 18:03 <@kappabeta> (6:57:38 PM) FacelessLondoner entered the room. 18:03 < FacelessLondoner> huh, I remember asking something 18:03 < FacelessLondoner> oh right, i asked if 18:04 < FacelessLondoner> If Isalian met an alt before picking his form, would that make him more or less likely to copy his alt form? 18:05 <@kappabeta> depends 18:06 <@kappabeta> if the alt already looked mostly the way he felt like looking, he might copy their form; if the alt looked a little like he wanted to look but not exactly, he might ignore the reference or only copy a few things 18:09 < FacelessLondoner> I see 18:15 < Teceler> ...Hadassah posted 18:15 < Teceler> *! 18:16 < FacelessLondoner> who plays that again? 18:19 < Teceler> um 18:19 < Teceler> I don't think we have a distinct name for the writer 18:19 < Teceler> but that's their main/only character 18:19 < Teceler> as far as I know 18:20 < FacelessLondoner> I have the vagues memory of knowing and that it was someone that was too busy to play until recently 18:21 < FacelessLondoner> like, I want to say "Nemo", but I also don't think it is right 18:21 < Teceler> no, that's Archangel 18:21 -!- Eva has joined #backstage 18:22 < Eva> Tag, Sonata 18:22 < FacelessLondoner> Hi eva o/ 18:22 -!- Eva is now known as Evenstar 18:22 < Evenstar> Hi! 18:22 <@Sonata> hello! 18:22 < Teceler> hello Evenstar 18:22 < Evenstar> Being Neathy? 18:22 < FacelessLondoner> I know, I am! 18:23 < Evenstar> Hi Teceler, Sonata! 18:23 < Evenstar> Also, Sonata: I am amused at how the title is still relevant to the contents of this post 18:23 <@Sonata> heeeeee 18:23 < Teceler> ...pfft 18:24 < Evenstar> Because a thing inside a safe inside another safe is certainly a 'badly-wrapped package' 18:24 < Evenstar> :P 18:24 <@kappabeta> on the contrary 18:24 <@kappabeta> i would call that an *excessively* wrapped package 18:24 <@kappabeta> XD 18:24 < Teceler> it is very /throughly/ wrapped package XD 18:24 < Teceler> pfft 18:24 < Evenstar> Everybody hates clamshell packaging :P 18:25 <@Sonata> Evenstar tag 18:25 < Evenstar> (Y-know, the vacuum-sealed plastic that's impossible to open without scissors?) 18:25 < Evenstar> So I think 'hard to open' = 'badly wrapped' for some :P 18:27 < Evenstar> Tag, Sonata 18:28 <@Sonata> Ahrotahn thinks this package is brilliantly wrapped and more people should wrap packages in this style. 18:28 < Evenstar> (hee) 18:28 < Teceler> pft 18:30 <@Sonata> tag, Evenstar 18:30 < Evenstar> swapping computers...~ 18:30 -!- Evenstar has quit 18:30 -!- Evenstar has joined #backstage 18:31 < Evenstar> (Apologies for the brief Evenstar service interruption :P) 18:31 <@Sonata> did you see my tag just before you swapped? 18:31 < Evenstar> (Nope.) 18:31 <@Sonata> (Then tag.) 18:34 -!- Kelsewhere has quit 18:35 < Evenstar> Tag, Sonata 18:39 <@Sonata> tag, Evenstar 18:43 < Evenstar> Tag, Sonata 18:46 <@Sonata> tag. Evenstar 18:49 < Evenstar> Tag, Sonata 18:50 <@Sonata> tag, Evenstar 18:53 < Evenstar> Tag, Sonata 18:56 <@Sonata> tag, Evenstar 18:58 -!- Kel has joined #backstage 18:59 < Kel> Apparently my grandma is visiting 18:59 < Teceler> ah 18:59 < Kel> and so I am leaving 18:59 < Kel> back in a while 18:59 < Teceler> good luck? 18:59 < Kel> sometime tonight 18:59 < Kel> thanks 18:59 < Kel> things will be fun 18:59 < Kel> just unexpected 18:59 < Kel> I was told about and forgot 18:59 < Kel> anyway, bye for now 18:59 -!- Kel has quit 19:00 < Evenstar> tag, Sonata 19:01 <@Sonata> tag, Evenstar 19:02 <@Sonata> I'm gonna go out for a bit soon 19:05 < Evenstar> Tag, Sonata 19:08 -!- Sonata has quit 20:04 < Andygal> FacelessLondoner: Forumtag 20:09 < FacelessLondoner> ok, would be too much to ask to wait like 15 minutes for IC reasons? 20:10 < Andygal> It's fine. 20:11 < FacelessLondoner> thanks 20:28 <@kappabeta> gloriousdawn.dreamwidth.org/icons?sortorder=keyword I think I might be done with Solvei's icons! Who wants to make admiring noises? 20:28 <@kappabeta> http://gloriousdawn.dreamwidth.org/icons?sortorder=keyword linkier linky 20:29 < Andygal> Solvei is another girl!Miles yes? 20:29 <@kappabeta> yes 20:29 < Andygal> eeeee! 20:31 < Sky> wow, she makes more Milesy faces than I would've guessed 20:31 < Sky> - 20:36 <@kappabeta> I hunted and hunted and I am VERY proud of the Milesy faces I found. :D 20:38 < Andygal> :) 20:38 < FacelessLondoner> Andygal: Anda and Linsa are now #blessed 20:39 < FacelessLondoner> ops, I didn't meant for the link channel xD 20:39 < Teceler> Me: ...did you make a blessings channel? [checks] nope apparently not 20:40 < Andygal> Heee 20:43 < FacelessLondoner> I feel if we do, it should be hanging out place for gods, priest, clerics, angels, demons, etc.s 20:43 < Andygal> Ha. 20:43 < Teceler> kappabeta: (belatedly) pretty icons! very Miles! 20:43 <@kappabeta> :D 20:43 * kappabeta prouds 20:45 < Andygal> You should be proud. You have so much to proud about. 20:46 < Teceler> Evenstar: you still here? 20:51 < FacelessLondoner> God, those smiles 20:51 < FacelessLondoner> they are miles smiles! 20:51 < FacelessLondoner> o.o 20:52 <@kappabeta> :D 20:53 <@kappabeta> I spent so long combing through available icons searching for smiles that make me feel *personally smiled at* when I behold them. 20:53 <@kappabeta> I feel I have done well. 20:58 < FacelessLondoner> I am scared with the precison of the face 2. wasn't me 20:59 * Evenstar exists 21:00 < Evenstar> (Lol wasn't me) 21:15 -!- FacelessLondoner has quit 21:21 -!- FacelessNormal has joined #backstage 21:21 < FacelessNormal> o/ 21:22 < Teceler> wb Faceless 21:23 < FacelessNormal> small coneciton problmes 21:23 < FacelessNormal> anyway, whats up? 21:28 -!- FacelessNormal has quit 22:20 -!- Sonata has joined #backstage 22:20 -!- mode/#backstage [+o Sonata] by ChanServ 22:22 < Evenstar> Hi Sonata! 22:23 < Andygal> Hi 22:23 < Evenstar> A tag is waiting. <3 22:23 <@Sonata> Hello 22:28 < Xom> comedy 22:28 < Andygal> is when you fall down a maintanence hatch and die. 22:29 < Xom> gasp how did you know what i was planning to cause 22:29 < Andygal> Lucky guess 22:29 < Xom> that is the correct way to know a thing 22:30 < Xom> who needs a map that reflects a territory just draw some random scribbles and get it right by chance 22:30 < Xom> or wrong by chance 22:30 < Xom> either way is fine 22:30 <@kappabeta> hmm i should go to bed. goodnight friends 22:31 -!- kappabeta has left #backstage 22:31 < Andygal> ... 22:31 < Teceler> sleep well kappa 22:31 < Teceler> ... 22:31 < Xom> goodni- 22:31 < Teceler> XD 22:31 <@Adelene> *chuckle* 22:31 < Andygal> kappa forgets to give people a chance to say goodnight 22:31 < Xom> that's fine 22:32 < Xom> i often do the same except i also leave the client open so nobody knows 22:32 < Xom> unless... they guess. 22:32 < Xom> FLAWLESS 22:34 <@Sonata> Tag, Evenstar 22:39 < Evenstar> Tag, Sonata 22:42 <@Sonata> Tag, Evenstar 22:44 < Evenstar> tag, Sonata 22:46 <@Sonata> tag, Evenstar 22:46 <@Sonata> (the two-dot is directly clockwise from the one-dot, correct?) 22:47 < Evenstar> (yes.) 22:47 < Evenstar> Tag, Sonata 22:48 <@Sonata> Tag, Evenstar 22:51 < Evenstar> (So yes I think you get the puzzle I will skip the trial and error) 22:53 < Evenstar> Tag, Sonata 23:01 <@Sonata> Tag, Evenstar 23:02 <@Sonata> (My next guess was going to be to reverse /every/ time) 23:04 -!- Verdancy has joined #backstage 23:05 < Verdancy> Hi I exist but long day and not much brain 23:05 < Andygal> Hi 23:05 < Verdancy> Hi Andygal! 23:05 < Andygal> (Hugs?) 23:05 < Evenstar> Tag, Sonata 23:05 < Verdancy> *hugs* 23:05 < Verdancy> not really a /bad/ day 23:05 < Verdancy> just long 23:06 < Andygal> Mmmm. 23:06 <@Sonata> tag, Evenstar 23:06 <@Sonata> *ugs* 23:07 < Verdancy> *hugs* 23:11 < Verdancy> also I just had a delicious sandwich 23:11 <@Sonata> Is rockeye_stonetoe in here, I forget who is people 23:11 < Verdancy> so 23:11 < Verdancy> I don't think so 23:11 <@Sonata> ooh, congratulations on the food 23:11 < Verdancy> thanks! 23:11 < Verdancy> I made it myself :P 23:16 < Teceler> bk 23:16 < Teceler> hello Verdancy! 23:16 < Verdancy> welcome back! 23:16 < Verdancy> Hi Teceler! 23:16 < Andygal> congrats on food Verdancy 23:17 < Verdancy> Thanks! :D 23:17 < Verdancy> (It was fried egg with pepperjack cheese and home-grown tomato) 23:17 < Verdancy> (i'm fancy) 23:18 < Andygal> homegrown! Very nice. 23:19 < Verdancy> (tomatoes are easy to grow where I live and they are 900% better than store-bought) 23:19 < Verdancy> (which to be fair is partly due to the terrible, terrible mistake with the ripening gene) 23:19 < Evenstar> TAg, Sonata 23:19 < Evenstar> Also, does anyone have any candidate ship names for a Sunless Sea frigate? 23:20 < Andygal> we used to grow tomatos in our backyard but we don't have a suitable backyard where we are now. 23:20 < Verdancy> aww 23:20 * Verdancy nods 23:20 < Andygal> we used to grow pumpkins too. And make pumpkin pie out of them after Halloween. 23:21 < Andygal> (they were just little pumpkins) 23:23 * Teceler tugs Evenstar and Verdancy in #Correspondence 23:23 < Teceler> *into 23:26 <@Sonata> tag, Evenstar --- Day changed Wed Sep 02 2015 00:07 < Evenstar> Tag, sonata 00:07 < Evenstar> (And I am going to bed) 00:08 < Teceler> sleep well Evenstar 00:08 <@Sonata> Goodnight 00:08 < Verdancy> God night, Evenstar. 00:08 < Evenstar> Night <3 00:08 -!- Evenstar has quit 00:12 -!- MTC has joined #backstage 00:27 < Andygal> goodnight everyone. 00:27 < Teceler> goodnight Andygal 00:27 < Teceler> sleep well 00:27 < Andygal> (hugs) 00:27 < Verdancy> Good night, Andygal. 00:27 < Verdancy> (hugs if wanted) 00:28 < Teceler> (that) 00:28 < Andygal> (hugs) 00:28 < Verdancy> *hugs* 00:28 < Andygal> :) 00:28 < Verdancy> ...awww little pumpkins 00:28 < Verdancy> (I just saw that) 00:28 < Andygal> heeee 00:28 < Verdancy> we grew pumpkins occasionally 00:29 < Andygal> well smallish pumpkins. 00:29 < Andygal> not tiny pumpkins. 00:29 < Verdancy> because my little brothers and I would sneak the seeds into the garden, the flower patch, the mulch.... 00:29 < Teceler> pft 00:29 < Verdancy> not because the adults actually decided to grow pumpkins 00:29 < Andygal> ahahaha 00:30 < Andygal> how did that work out for you? 00:30 < Verdancy> we got one in the front flowerbed to a decent size! 00:30 < Verdancy> (it was hiding and the hose faucet was right there) 00:30 < Verdancy> the rest of them got rooted up pretty early 00:30 < Andygal> Ha. 00:30 < Teceler> [hugs if wanted] 00:30 < Verdancy> there were also a few attempts at watermelons but those were even less successful 00:31 < Verdancy> ? 00:31 < Verdancy> I mean, hugs are excellent always, I just did not think I was telling a sad story 00:31 < Verdancy> sorry? 00:31 < Verdancy> *hugs* 00:32 < Teceler> you don't need to apologize? 00:32 < Verdancy> okay 00:32 < Verdancy> yes that was kind of silly 00:32 < Verdancy> I am prone to over-apologizing 00:32 < Verdancy> and then apologizing for that 00:32 < Teceler> [hug] 00:32 < Verdancy> so I will not do that 00:32 < Verdancy> *hugs* 00:32 < Verdancy> because it just gets kind of ridiculous 00:32 < Verdancy> anyway! 00:33 < Verdancy> Good night, Andygal. 00:33 < Andygal> Ha. Apologizing a lot is my job. 00:33 < Verdancy> :( 00:33 < Andygal> as I am Canadian. 00:33 < Verdancy> customer 00:33 < Verdancy> -- 00:33 < Verdancy> pfffffft 00:33 < Verdancy> hee 00:34 < Andygal> anyway, sleep! 00:34 -!- Andygal has quit 00:34 < Teceler> sleep well 00:38 < Teceler> ...Iiii should really go sleep 00:39 <@Adelene> Yep. 00:39 <@Adelene> Sleep well. ^^ *hug* 00:39 < Teceler> [hug] 00:39 < Teceler> you too, whenever you sleep 00:39 <@Adelene> That should probably happen at some point, yep. 00:39 <@Adelene> ^^ 00:41 < Verdancy> Good night, Teceler. 00:41 < Verdancy> (Also hi Adelene!) 00:42 < Teceler> good night, Verdancy. you sleep well too 00:42 <@Adelene> o/ 00:42 -!- Verdancy is now known as VerdanZzz 00:42 < VerdanZzz> excellent idea 00:42 < Teceler> pft 00:42 < Teceler> goodnight all 00:42 < VerdanZzz> Good night, everyone. <3 00:42 <@Adelene> Sleep well. ^^ 00:42 < Teceler> (goodnight, mwf. good night) 00:42 -!- Teceler is now known as Teceler|Asleep 01:06 -!- Sonata has quit 01:36 < Xom> remember everyone, tomorrow is causal day 01:36 < Xom> not to be confused with casual day 02:23 -!- Sky has quit
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04:49 -!- linkhyrule5 has quit 05:00 -!- Adelene1 has joined #backstage 05:01 -!- Adelene has quit 06:52 -!- FacelessWork has joined #backstage 06:56 -!- kappabeta has joined #backstage 06:56 -!- mode/#backstage [+o kappabeta] by ChanServ 06:56 < FacelessWork> hello everyone 07:04 -!- Adelene1 has quit 07:04 -!- Adelene has joined #backstage 07:04 -!- mode/#backstage [+o Adelene] by ChanServ 07:12 -!- FacelessWork has quit 07:29 -!- FacelessWork has joined #backstage 07:31 < FacelessWork> hi again 08:57 -!- Adelene has quit 10:03 -!- Teceler|Asleep is now known as Teceler 10:11 -!- Sonata has joined #backstage 10:12 -!- mode/#backstage [+o Sonata] by ChanServ 10:41 -!- Andygal has joined #backstage 10:41 < Andygal> Hi 10:41 < Teceler> hello Andygal 10:41 < Teceler> (hello Sonata, too) 10:42 <@Sonata> hello 10:49 -!- Sonata changed the topic of #backstage to: MWF OOC -- MotherStarlight is logging -- Wiki: http://manyworlds.mwzip.com/ -- Open tags: https://etherpad.net/p/MWFOpenThreads -- Community radio: http://cytu.be/r/mwf-backstage https://etherpad.net/p/MWF_Channel_Voting -- Today is Causal Day 10:50 <@kappabeta> causal day? XD 10:50 <@Sonata> Not to be confused with casual day. 10:50 < Andygal> XD 10:50 <@Sonata> Today only, things happen for reasons! 10:51 < Teceler> le gasp 10:52 <@Sonata> anyway, I'm considering a new character concept 10:52 < Andygal> yes? 10:53 <@Sonata> foulmouthed 12-year-old boy who got called as a magical girl because the magic doesn't understand that he's trans 10:53 <@Sonata> this is much of the reason he swears so much 10:53 <@kappabeta> oh dear XD 10:53 < Teceler> [hugs for character] 10:54 <@Sonata> current problems are (1) i dunno if i want to play a character who's unhappy all the time and (2) his voice in my head currently sounds kind of similar to lizzie 10:54 < Teceler> ...1 can be solved by having the forum happen to his magic system, maybe? 10:54 <@Sonata> possibly 10:54 <@Sonata> but i /also/ want a character who's harder to get to 10:55 <@Sonata> who mostly uses the forum as a /forum/ 10:55 * Teceler nods. 10:55 <@Sonata> rather than a first step to pealing 10:55 < Teceler> pft 10:59 < FacelessWork> I vaguely wanted to have somehow that was either immune to Esthfora or that somehow managed to miss every single hint that the place was real so they would treat the place like a RP forum 11:00 < FacelessWork> (not him /personally/ immune, though, more like his world is just extremely anti-magic) 11:03 -!- Sonata has quit 11:29 -!- Kel-Phone has joined #backstage 11:30 -!- Sonata has joined #backstage 11:30 -!- mode/#backstage [+o Sonata] by ChanServ 11:30 < Kel-Phone> hi 11:30 < FacelessWork> o/ 11:30 < Andygal> Hi 11:31 <@Sonata> hi 11:32 < Kel-Phone> I've got a world I want to add to the forum but I still need to iron our the world building 11:32 < Andygal> don't you already have more characters than brain :P? 11:33 < Kel-Phone> yeah 11:33 < Kel-Phone> but most are currently nut forum 11:33 < Kel-Phone> not 11:33 < Teceler> hello Kel! 11:34 < Kel-Phone> because gods fire and otc contract and trying to plant a log 11:34 < Kel-Phone> hi! 11:34 < Kel-Phone> yesterday went longer than expected and then I went to bd 11:34 < Teceler> it happens 11:35 < Teceler> (I figured that was what had occurred) 11:36 < Kel-Phone> was not ninjas 11:36 < Andygal> <hugs> 11:36 < Teceler> pffft 11:37 < Kel-Phone> Hugs. ? 11:37 < Andygal> was it pirates? 11:38 -!- VerdanZzz has quit 11:39 < Kel-Phone> no pirates either 11:39 < Kel-Phone> nor doppelgangers 11:39 < Teceler> pfft 11:40 < Kel-Phone> unfortunately world I /want/ to ask building advice on is also a puzzle thing 11:40 <@Sonata> #spoilers ? 11:40 < Teceler> fun 11:40 < Teceler> [hugs] 11:41 < Kel-Phone> Hugs 11:41 < Kel-Phone> it would be a puzzle ooc too though was the idea 11:41 < Kel-Phone> like the m two 11:43 < Kel-Phone> brb 11:48 -!- Kel-Phone has quit 11:51 -!- Kel-Phone has joined #backstage 11:52 < Kel-Phone> bk 11:52 < Andygal> wb 11:52 < Kel-Phone> thx 11:53 < Teceler> wb 11:56 -!- Adelene has joined #backstage 11:56 -!- mode/#backstage [+o Adelene] by ChanServ 11:57 < Kel-Phone> hi 11:57 <@Adelene> hi :) 11:57 < FacelessWork> salutations 11:57 < Andygal> Hey 11:58 < Kel-Phone> oh bid is here 11:58 < Kel-Phone> bus 12:02 -!- Sky has joined #backstage 12:03 -!- Kel-Phone has quit 12:06 < Teceler> hello Sky 12:07 < Sky> Hi 12:07 < Andygal> Hi 13:09 -!- Sonata has quit 13:23 -!- kappabeta has quit 13:25 -!- kappabeta has joined #backstage 13:25 -!- mode/#backstage [+o kappabeta] by ChanServ 14:27 -!- FacelessWork has quit 15:05 -!- MTC has quit 15:26 -!- Teceler is now known as Teceler|Away 15:47 -!- Sonata has joined #backstage 15:47 -!- mode/#backstage [+o Sonata] by ChanServ 15:48 <@Adelene> o/ 15:48 <@Sonata> hi 15:48 < Andygal> Hi 16:18 -!- tecephone has joined #backstage 17:06 -!- Sonata has quit 17:08 -!- Verdancy has joined #backstage 17:08 < Verdancy> Hi I exist but we're going out to eat for baby brother's birthday 17:08 < Verdancy> so 17:08 <@Adelene> hve fun :) 17:08 -!- Verdancy is now known as Verdancy|Away 17:08 < Verdancy|Away> Thanks! :) 17:09 * Andygal showers 17:10 <@Adelene> Oh, in case anyone is interested, I got my autism diagnosis paperwork today. 17:10 <@Adelene> Apparently I am midrange severity wise, which is not, uh, surprising. ^^ 17:11 <@Adelene> (I consider that a pretty good benchmark for 'yep, they got it right'.) 17:13 <@kappabeta> <3 17:14 -!- Teceler|Away is now known as Teceler 17:21 -!- FacelessLondoner has joined #backstage 17:22 < FacelessLondoner> hi 17:22 < Teceler> hello 17:22 < FacelessLondoner> is Fallen London Working alright to everyone? 17:22 < Teceler> seems to be 17:22 < Teceler> oh, your nightmares thing made me giggle a lot when I saw it 17:23 < FacelessLondoner> why? 17:23 < Teceler> [words] 17:23 < FacelessLondoner> Oh, right there was a funny message with it xD 17:23 < Teceler> yeah that 17:24 < FacelessLondoner> well, thanks xD 17:24 < Teceler> yw 17:35 < Andygal> :) 17:36 < FacelessLondoner> anyway, ttyl o/ 17:36 -!- FacelessLondoner has quit --- Log closed Wed Sep 02 17:41:58 2015 --- Log opened Wed Sep 02 17:42:23 2015 17:42 -!- MotherStarlight has joined #backstage 17:42 -!- Irssi: #backstage: Total of 10 nicks [2 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 8 normal] 17:42 -!- mode/#backstage [+o MotherStarlight] by ChanServ 17:42 -!- Irssi: Join to #backstage was synced in 22 secs 17:50 -!- zabsay has joined #backstage 17:50 -!- zabsay has left #backstage 17:51 -!- Sonata has joined #backstage 17:51 -!- mode/#backstage [+o Sonata] by ChanServ 17:52 <@Sonata> Anything happen while MS was out? 17:52 < Andygal> Nope. 17:55 -!- mode/#backstage [-o MotherStarlight] by Sonata 17:55 -!- mode/#backstage [+v MotherStarlight] by Sonata 18:28 -!- Sonata has quit 18:34 -!- FacelessSlimer has joined #backstage 18:36 < FacelessSlimer> Salutations 18:42 -!- Evenstar has joined #backstage 18:42 < Teceler> hello again Faceless, hello Evenstar 18:46 < Andygal> Hey 18:48 < FacelessSlimer> hi 18:48 < FacelessSlimer> how are you people 18:51 < Evenstar> Hi! 18:51 <@kappabeta> I am productive as hell today 18:51 <@kappabeta> well, "productive" 18:51 <@kappabeta> http://teartheshadow.dreamwidth.org/icons?sortorder=keyword http://callthelight.dreamwidth.org/icons?sortorder=keyword 18:52 < FacelessSlimer> ^^ 18:53 < Teceler> pretty! 18:54 < Evenstar> pretty! 18:55 * kappabeta prouds 18:57 < Andygal> I assue this is the Mark equalivent for the Miles you were showing off yesterday? 18:57 <@kappabeta> Yes. 18:57 < Andygal> Keen. 18:58 -!- Sonata has joined #backstage 18:58 -!- mode/#backstage [+o Sonata] by ChanServ 18:59 < Teceler> wb Sonata 19:00 < Evenstar> You have a tag! <3 19:04 -!- tecephone has quit 19:05 <@Sonata> ty! 19:05 <@Sonata> my internet is being a butt today for some reason 19:08 < Teceler> ...hey, Evenstar, would the sending stone upgrade let non-Metis muses use the sending stones, too? 19:08 * Andygal pokes Sonata's internet 19:08 < Andygal> Dear Sonata's Internet, stop being a butt. 19:11 < Evenstar> Teceler: Debatable. Any of them that are as awake as Metis, yes. 19:11 < Teceler> Evenstar: okay, I can work with that 19:15 -!- Kel has joined #backstage 19:15 < Kel> hi 19:16 < Teceler> Kel! 19:16 < Kel> rrrg brb phone 19:16 < Teceler> hello! 19:16 < Teceler> er 19:16 < Teceler> okay 19:17 < Kel> bk 19:17 < Kel> Hi! 19:17 < Teceler> wb 19:17 < Kel> XD 19:17 < Kel> thanks 19:17 < Andygal> Hi kel 19:17 < Kel> is anything planned to happen on the forum over the next month or so? 19:17 < Kel> hi 19:18 < Teceler> in what sense? 19:18 < Kel> like 19:18 < Kel> plot, characters 19:18 < Kel> things happening? 19:18 < Kel> people saying stuff 19:18 < Teceler> there's the thing with Niryl and Lizzie continuing, presumably, which is likely to have things on the forum 19:18 < Kel> yay 19:32 <@kappabeta> https://the-greatest-show.dreamwidth.org/icons?sortorder=keyword now I am iconing this female Chainsaw 19:33 <@kappabeta> i welcome both opinions and admiring noises 19:35 < Teceler> pretty! 19:36 < Teceler> 4 is a bit, um, unsaturated? [words] 19:39 <@Sonata> tag, Evenstar 19:39 <@Sonata> (am somewhat distract due to playing okami) 19:40 < Evenstar> (okami is a good reason to be distract) 19:49 < Kel> Oooh! 19:49 < Kel> I figured out an explanation for why Lantern's grammar changed over tiem 19:49 < Kel> *time 19:49 < Kel> which ooc was because I changed my mind several times about how the language worked 19:49 <@Adelene> mm? 19:49 < Kel> /formality/ 19:49 < Kel> like. verbs /are/ a thing 19:49 <@Adelene> that would do it, yep. ^^ 19:49 < Kel> :D 19:50 < Andygal> :) 19:58 * Teceler undistracts 19:58 < Teceler> oh, that makes sense! 19:58 <@Adelene> ^^ 19:59 < Andygal> <3 19:59 < Kel> hm. I wonder if the result of the current conversation is predictable enough to bring Lantern back to the forum 19:59 < Kel> Tec, is Amadi available or is there too much fire in Eclipse rn? 20:00 < Teceler> available for what? 20:00 < Kel> talking about language? 20:00 < Teceler> ...oh, you mean Zahi 20:00 < Andygal> I think Amadi does not have a forum account. 20:00 < Kel> ... yes 20:00 < Kel> oops 20:00 < Kel> Amadi is the /other/ one sorry 20:00 < Teceler> Zahi, is, sadly, very busy at present 20:01 < Kel> ok 20:08 -!- Andygal is now known as Awaygal 20:21 -!- Kel is now known as Kelsupper 20:22 < Teceler> enjoy 20:27 < FacelessSlimer> glowfic question: anyone remembers if Cloudpine witches can do teleportation? 20:27 < FacelessSlimer> or at least limited summoning of things? 20:28 <@Adelene> I don't think so. 20:29 < FacelessSlimer> I can't help but remmeber that Amariah summoned the first alethiometer, but also remember she looking the second by flying where it was 20:36 < Teceler> (will be back in half an hour / an hour or so) 20:36 -!- Teceler is now known as Teceler|Away 20:36 < FacelessSlimer> http://dark-light.dreamwidth.org/1754.html?thread=176346#cmt176346 21:04 * kappabeta brags 21:04 <@kappabeta> https://the-greatest-show.dreamwidth.org/icons?sortorder=keyword third journal finished today! 21:06 <@Sonata> eeee 21:06 <@Sonata> congratulations! 21:06 <@kappabeta> ^^ 21:07 <@kappabeta> i'm also proud of the songs i pulled lyrics from to get that screenname and those icon keywords 21:07 <@kappabeta> (ac/dc "problem child", and ELP "karn evil 9") 21:24 <@Sonata> GODDAMN KONOHAMA SHUFFLE 21:26 -!- Kelsupper is now known as Kelish 21:26 < Kelish> what happened? 21:26 < Kelish> also, kappa, cool names for icons 21:26 < FacelessSlimer> Who is Cassandra? 21:27 < Kelish> Cassandra is an AI built by Grigori 21:27 < Kelish> she provides answers to his questions in exchange for a Genius thing that lets her live. 21:28 < Kelish> because World of Darkness 21:28 < FacelessSlimer> ah, the charming WoD 21:28 < FacelessSlimer> what are the plannings to deal with itw? 21:29 < Kelish> happy propoganda? I think? 21:32 < Kelish> brb 21:38 < Kelish> bk 21:39 < Kelish> I have /no idea/ what I thought a clinging contact-vine was 21:40 < Kelish> when I went to write, I thought it was a glow vine, but that's elsewhere in the document 21:40 -!- Teceler|Away is now known as Teceler 21:40 < Kelish> Hi! 21:40 < Teceler> hi 21:42 < FacelessSlimer> the new miles and mark are going to be in the Bell Gem setting? 21:43 <@kappabeta> heh. heh. heh. 21:43 < Kelish> ... that sounds ominous? 21:43 <@kappabeta> :D 21:43 < Kelish> (<3) 21:43 <@kappabeta> <3 21:45 <@Sonata> (A Miles. With a wish. Oh my.) 21:47 <@kappabeta> :33333333333333 21:47 < Kelish> I am not familiar with the source canon, but I am Concerned 21:50 < FacelessSlimer> Same kel 21:50 < Teceler> that yes 21:50 < Kelish> [preemptive hugs for the entire cast] 21:57 -!- Sky has quit 21:58 <@Sonata> *maths* apparently the threshold for being a takkarash-god is if you can take about two thirds of a million takkarash worth of pain. 21:59 < Teceler> huh 22:02 < Kelish> that is many 22:02 < Evenstar> 666,666. How appropriate. 22:03 < Evenstar> So yes, Jokers /are/ takkarash-gods. 22:03 < Teceler> pft 22:03 < Evenstar> (A tenner is a million TK.) 22:04 < Evenstar> (So specifically Brilliance is /definitely/ a TK god) 22:04 <@kappabeta> XD 22:04 < Evenstar> (The other jokers are pretty close, most of them can do evils IIRC) 22:07 <@Sonata> (but you have to be able to /sustain/ that level of pain, on-demand, for however long you've minted cernnuous worth of) 22:08 <@Sonata> (I can't imagine any joker minting cernnuous, regardless of capability) 22:09 < Teceler> Evenstar: ...how /does/ cernnuous work with takkarash, given what you've said about it and obligation? 22:10 < Evenstar> Teceler: You would have to have minted the TK in advance. Also, Cernnous are generally fairly flexible on when you need to fulfil the service. 22:11 < Teceler> ah 22:11 < Teceler> that's useful 22:19 < Teceler> Kel: tag! 22:20 < Kelish> EEEEe tag! 22:20 < Teceler> :) 22:21 < Kelish> :D (GUys look at this fantastic tag!) 22:21 <@Adelene> It is an excellent tag. ^^ 22:21 < Teceler> :):):) 22:21 <@Adelene> Cutes! 22:22 < Teceler> ...not sure how specific tag is cutes? XD 22:22 <@Adelene> (I admit to a weird aesthetic sense. ^^) 22:22 < Teceler> ha, okay 22:39 -!- FacelessSlimer has quit 22:40 < Kelish> I need to sleep 22:40 < Teceler> sleep well 22:40 < Kelish> tomorrow I'll try and do a godsfire tag and also put up the plantalogue I've written 22:40 < Kelish> thank you! 22:40 < Kelish> you too! 22:41 < Teceler> thanks :) 22:41 < Kelish> Evenstar, does the plantalogue so far look ok? 22:41 < Kelish> besides the holes with [THIS NEEDS TO BE WRITTEN OR VERIFIED] stuff? 22:43 < Kelish> anyway, goodnight, I'll look at logs tomorrow? 22:43 -!- Kelish is now known as Kelsleep 22:44 -!- Awaygal is now known as Andygal 22:44 < Evenstar> Tag, Sonata 22:44 < Evenstar> Kelish: Yes! 22:44 < Evenstar> (ohnoes) 22:44 < Teceler> (?) 22:49 <@Sonata> tag, Evenstar 22:56 -!- Kelsleep has quit 23:06 <@kappabeta> i should go a bed. 23:06 <@kappabeta> goodnight friends 23:06 < Teceler> sleep well 23:06 -!- kappabeta has left #backstage 23:11 < Evenstar> Tag, Sonata 23:42 <@Sonata> Tag, Evenstar 23:51 -!- Evenstar has quit --- Day changed Thu Sep 03 2015 00:03 < Teceler> I'm going to go try to sleep 00:03 < Teceler> good night all 00:03 < Andygal> goodnight! 00:03 <@Adelene> Sleep well! 00:03 < Teceler> thank you, Adelene 00:04 < Andygal> <3 00:04 -!- Teceler is now known as Teceler|Asleep 00:07 -!- MTC has joined #backstage 00:17 -!- Sonata has quit 01:14 -!- Andygal has quit
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Post by Mother Starlight on Sept 4, 2015 16:34:17 GMT
04:45 -!- linkhyrule5 has joined #backstage 04:50 < linkhyrule5> .... 04:50 < linkhyrule5> *bounce bounce BORED* 04:51 < linkhyrule5> *bounce bounce BORED* 04:55 -!- Verdancy|Away has quit 06:23 -!- kappabeta has joined #backstage 06:23 -!- mode/#backstage [+o kappabeta] by ChanServ 06:40 -!- Kelsewhere has joined #backstage 07:13 -!- FacelessWork has joined #backstage 07:14 < FacelessWork> Hi fellow humans o/ 07:53 -!- kappabeta has left #backstage 07:58 -!- Andygal has joined #backstage 07:58 < Andygal> Herrow. 08:02 < FacelessWork> Hi 08:03 < Andygal> :) 09:54 -!- Sonata has joined #backstage 09:54 -!- mode/#backstage [+o Sonata] by ChanServ 10:05 < Andygal> Hey? 10:06 <@Sonata> hi 10:19 < FacelessWork> hi 10:19 -!- FacelessWork is now known as FacelessFood 10:29 -!- Sonata has quit 10:34 -!- Teceler|Asleep is now known as Teceler 10:52 -!- linkhyrule5 has quit 10:53 -!- Sonata has joined #backstage 10:53 -!- mode/#backstage [+o Sonata] by ChanServ 11:05 < FacelessFood> salutations agian 11:05 -!- FacelessFood is now known as FacelessWork 11:05 < Teceler> hello 11:05 < Andygal> Hey 11:10 <@Sonata> hi 11:14 -!- kappabeta has joined #backstage 11:14 -!- mode/#backstage [+o kappabeta] by ChanServ 11:14 -!- kappabeta has left #backstage 11:20 < Andygal> it is ***ing freezing in this house. 11:20 < Andygal> why is it ****ing freezing in this house? 11:20 < Teceler> because the universe hates you 11:20 < Teceler> clearly 11:20 < Teceler> :P 11:21 * Andygal is borrowing the space heater from the bathroom 11:21 < Teceler> that is a reasonable approach, especially if the house at large cannot be made less freezing 11:22 < Andygal> we don't want to turn the heat up because it's still early in September and it might warm up again. 11:23 * Teceler nods. 11:39 < Teceler> did the heater wind up helping? 11:39 < Andygal> Yes. 11:40 < Teceler> that's good 11:41 < Andygal> :) 12:21 -!- Sky has joined #backstage 12:47 -!- Evenstar has joined #backstage 12:48 < Evenstar> (Hi Sonata!) 12:48 < Evenstar> (You have a target) 12:48 < Evenstar> (Er, tag?) 12:48 < Teceler> hello Sky, hello Evenstar 12:48 < Teceler> pft 12:48 < Evenstar> (>.>) 12:48 < Andygal> Hey Evenstar 12:48 < Andygal> XD 12:48 < Evenstar> Hey Andygal, Teceler, Sky <3 12:49 <@Sonata> oooh hello 12:49 < Sky> Hi people 12:49 * Evenstar is thinking about a new subshop from OTC. 12:49 < Evenstar> "Quality Products" 12:49 <@Adelene> mm? 12:50 <@Sonata> tag Evenstar 12:50 * Evenstar thinks she will not discuss it here though, she wants to put it on the forum and see people's thoughts/reactions 12:50 * Evenstar writewrites 12:50 <@Sonata> any relation to QDS? 12:50 <@Adelene> ^^ 12:51 < Evenstar> Sonata: nnnnot exactly. 13:21 < Teceler> oh, Evenstar, did you see the SS update? 13:22 < Evenstar> Teceler: there was an SS update? 13:23 < Teceler> Evenstar: I seem to remember hearing something about one? moment 13:23 < Evenstar> Ooh 13:23 < Evenstar> I see 13:23 < Evenstar> Pigmote Isle update 13:23 < Teceler> ooh! 13:25 < Evenstar> And a new Officer! 13:25 < Evenstar> (Two new officers, if you backed) 13:25 < Teceler> that remember hearing about, yeah 13:25 < Evenstar> Also Sunless Sea is in the running for Best Storytelling for the Golden Joysticks 13:29 < FacelessWork> should I play that in parallel with FL? 13:30 < Evenstar> Sunless Sea is really good and less grindy than FL 13:30 < Evenstar> I would reccommend it 13:32 < Evenstar> Do you like Failbetter words? 13:32 < Evenstar> Yes? 13:33 < Evenstar> Then buy Sunless Sea. 13:41 < FacelessWork> Sorry, busy 13:41 < FacelessWork> I am liking FL 13:50 < FacelessWork> evenstar have you played detective in FL? 13:53 < Evenstar> A little, but those storylines are new IIRC 13:53 < Teceler> don't think this particular one is 13:53 < Teceler> absconding devil and music hall singer 13:54 < FacelessWork> I went with my heart in that one 13:59 < Teceler> Me (@Effulgence thread): oh, it's /Alys/ 14:01 < Teceler> (followed by :() 14:01 < FacelessWork> this is about Madoka? 14:01 < FacelessWork> I havent watched that 14:01 < Teceler> me neither 14:03 < FacelessWork> who is Alys? 14:03 < FacelessWork> (I also havent read the gem threads) 14:04 < Teceler> [words] 14:06 < FacelessWork> [more words] 14:06 < Teceler> pft 14:06 < Teceler> um, a background character who was being mentioned in passing, and I was trying to place, before a reference made it snap into place 14:07 < Teceler> for template-ness, I mean 14:08 < FacelessWork> ah, I see 14:12 < Evenstar> (Gem is threading?) 14:12 < Evenstar> (Where?) 14:13 < Teceler> http://onceandforall.dreamwidth.org/414.html 14:14 < Evenstar> (Okay this deer conversation is excellent) 15:00 <@Sonata> tag, Evenstar 15:12 -!- MTC has quit 15:36 < Evenstar> tag, sonata 15:46 <@Sonata> tag, Evenstar 15:50 -!- Evenstar has quit 15:57 -!- FacelessWork has quit 16:15 -!- Kelsewhere is now known as Kel 16:16 < Teceler> kel! 16:16 < Kel> Hi! 16:45 -!- FacelessDude has joined #backstage 16:45 < Teceler> hello again faceless 16:51 < FacelessDude> salutations 16:51 -!- FacelessDude is now known as FacelessDinner 16:53 < Teceler> ...enjoy your dinner? 17:07 < FacelessDinner> sorry 17:07 < FacelessDinner> back now 17:08 -!- FacelessDinner is now known as FacelessFull 17:11 -!- linkhyrule5 has joined #backstage 18:01 -!- linkhyrule5 has quit 18:05 * Teceler eyes link's connection 18:16 -!- FacelessFull has quit 19:29 -!- Sonata has quit 19:33 -!- Kel is now known as Kelsupper 19:42 -!- Sonata has joined #backstage 19:42 -!- mode/#backstage [+o Sonata] by ChanServ 20:25 -!- FacelessPeeves has joined #backstage 20:31 -!- linkhyrule5 has joined #backstage 20:33 < FacelessPeeves> hi? 20:33 < Teceler> hello 20:34 <@Sonata> hi 20:34 < FacelessPeeves> how are things 20:34 < FacelessPeeves> ? 20:34 <@Sonata> good 20:38 < Andygal> Hullo 20:39 < FacelessPeeves> Hullo, Andygal 20:45 -!- link_hyrule5 has joined #backstage 20:47 -!- linkhyrule5 has quit 20:55 -!- linkhyrule6 has joined #backstage 20:57 -!- linkhyrule6 has quit 20:57 -!- linkhyrule6 has joined #backstage 20:58 -!- link_hyrule5 has quit 21:06 -!- Evenstar has joined #backstage 21:07 < Teceler> hello Evenstar 21:07 < Evenstar> (Today is Causal Day? I thought every day was a Causal Day.) 21:07 < Evenstar> (Also hi Teceler) 21:07 < Evenstar> (Also also Sonata, tag) 21:07 <@Sonata> oh right, I think that was actually yesterday 21:07 -!- Sonata changed the topic of #backstage to: MWF OOC -- MotherStarlight is logging -- Wiki: http://manyworlds.mwzip.com/ -- Open tags: https://etherpad.net/p/MWFOpenThreads -- Community radio: http://cytu.be/r/mwf-backstage https://etherpad.net/p/MWF_Channel_Voting 21:13 <@Sonata> Evenstar, I'm having trouble visualizing what gears are where 21:22 -!- Kelsupper is now known as Kel 21:23 -!- Andygal is now known as MrDanfort 21:23 < Kel> ? 21:23 -!- MrDanfort is now known as Andygal 21:23 < Andygal> Wrong server. 21:24 < Kel> ok 21:24 < Kel> kappa isn't here, but I want to write this somewhere anyway before I forget: I asked my old history teacher about if Greenland were more inhabitable and he thinks the most likely thing is that it gets more colonized by vikings who possibly go from there to making major contact with the Americas 21:25 * Adelene pastes to Kappa. 21:25 < Kel> thank you! 21:25 <@Adelene> :) 21:26 < Andygal> :) 21:26 <@Adelene> Kappa says "<3" 21:26 < Kel> (eeee!) 21:26 < Kel> :D 21:28 -!- linkhyrule6 is now known as linkhyrule5 22:21 -!- link_hyrule5 has joined #backstage 22:21 -!- linkhyrule5 has quit 22:34 < Evenstar> Sonata: I thought this visualization problem might happen 22:34 < Evenstar> I will get you a screenshot 22:35 <@Sonata> thank you <3 22:35 -!- linkhyrule6 has joined #backstage 22:36 -!- link_hyrule5 has quit 22:37 <@Sonata> Evenstar, tag with prompt for screenshot-and-text 22:39 -!- FacelessPeeves has quit 22:49 -!- linkhyrule6 has quit 22:50 -!- linkhyrule5 has joined #backstage 23:04 -!- Evenstar has quit 23:05 < Kel> (I really want to do /something/ on the forum part of the forum soon) 23:05 < Kel> (... I also still owe Aestrix and Faceless forum PMs) 23:05 < Kel> anyway goodnight 23:05 -!- Kel is now known as Kelsleep 23:06 < Teceler> [hug] 23:06 < Teceler> sleep well 23:06 < Kelsleep> thank you! you too 23:06 <@Sonata> goodnight 23:06 < Teceler> thanks 23:06 < Andygal> goodnight! 23:14 -!- Kelsleep has quit 23:44 -!- linkhyrule5 has quit 23:44 -!- linkhyrule5 has joined #backstage 23:49 < Teceler> I am going to go sleep 23:50 <@Adelene> Sleep well! 23:50 < Teceler> before I fall asleep here :P 23:50 -!- Sonata has quit 23:50 < Teceler> thanks 23:51 < Andygal> goodnight Teceler 23:51 < Teceler> goodnight 23:52 -!- Teceler is now known as Teceler|Asleep --- Day changed Fri Sep 04 2015 00:03 -!- MTC has joined #backstage 01:05 -!- linkhyrule5 has quit 01:19 -!- linkhyrule5 has joined #backstage 02:56 -!- Sky has quit
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Post by Mother Starlight on Sept 5, 2015 20:23:02 GMT
03:12 -!- Kelsewhere has joined #backstage 03:13 -!- Verdancy has joined #backstage 03:14 < Verdancy> Hi, I exist and my brain will not /shut up/ and let me go to sleep 03:14 < Andygal> That sucks. 03:14 < Verdancy> yep 03:14 * Andygal is having trouble tearing herself away from the computer again 03:14 < Verdancy> Hi Andygal 03:14 * Verdancy nods 03:15 < Verdancy> Do you want to be shooed? 03:15 -!- Kelsewhere has quit 03:15 * Andygal shrugs 03:16 < Verdancy> what time is it where you are? 03:17 < Andygal> 1:17 AM 03:18 < Verdancy> that is a moderately reasonable sleeptime 03:18 < Andygal> Not according to my dad. But he's already throughally asleep so. 03:18 < Verdancy> it's four AM here though 03:18 * Verdancy nods 03:19 < Verdancy> would you like me to produce extremely hypocritical arguments about wakefulness and efficiency and sleep schedules 03:19 < Andygal> Ha. 03:19 < Verdancy> yay I got a ha 03:20 < Verdancy> that is the response I was going for 03:20 < Verdancy> success 03:20 < Andygal> XD 03:20 < Verdancy> :) 03:20 < Verdancy> I get really blunt when I'm sleep deprived actually 03:21 < Andygal> I get either silly or cranky. 03:21 * Verdancy nods 03:22 < Verdancy> too tired to be slaphappy but that happens 03:22 < Verdancy> occasionally I take advantage of the bluntness to cheat at public speaking 03:23 < Verdancy> one time I had to give an improv speech on how schools should (or should not) start later 03:23 < Verdancy> because teenagers, sleep cycles, attention 03:23 < Verdancy> etc 03:24 < Verdancy> I was extremely sleep deprived, it went great 03:24 < Andygal> well that's either very ironic or very appropriate. 03:24 < Verdancy> kind of ironic. and hilarious. hilironic? 03:25 < Verdancy> hilaronic? 03:25 < Andygal> XD 03:25 < Verdancy> ...this is probably not helping you tear yourself away from your computer 03:25 * Verdancy gently shoos Andygal to bed? 03:28 < Verdancy> (iff wanted) 03:31 < Andygal> goodnight! 03:31 < Verdancy> gnight <3 03:31 < Andygal> <3 03:31 -!- Andygal has quit 03:55 < Verdancy> going to try sleeping on couch downstairs 03:55 < Verdancy> worth a shot 03:55 -!- Verdancy is now known as Verdancy|Away 05:54 -!- butcher has joined #backstage 06:33 -!- kappabeta has joined #backstage 06:33 -!- mode/#backstage [+o kappabeta] by ChanServ 07:06 -!- FacelessWork has joined #backstage 07:06 < FacelessWork> hi 07:56 -!- kappabeta has left #backstage 08:09 -!- Verdancy|Away has quit 08:18 -!- linkhyrule5 has quit 09:04 -!- Kelsewhere has joined #backstage 09:24 -!- FacelessWork has quit 09:40 -!- Sonata has joined #backstage 09:40 -!- mode/#backstage [+o Sonata] by ChanServ 09:40 <@Sonata> hello 09:55 <@Adelene> o/ 09:56 -!- Teceler|Asleep is now known as Teceler 10:32 -!- Sonata has quit 11:28 -!- Sonata has joined #backstage 11:28 -!- mode/#backstage [+o Sonata] by ChanServ 11:29 * Sonata sighs as connection 11:29 <@Sonata> *at 11:29 < Teceler> at least it hasn't been dropping MS too? 11:29 <@Sonata> yeah 11:29 <@Sonata> that is very good 11:30 <@Sonata> also diagnostically useful 11:30 < Teceler> ha 11:30 < Teceler> I can imagine it would be, yes 12:07 -!- Sky has joined #backstage 12:12 < Teceler> hello sky 12:12 < Sky> allo 12:13 <@Sonata> hi 12:20 -!- Kel has joined #backstage 12:23 -!- Kelsewhere has quit 12:29 -!- Andygal has joined #backstage 12:30 < Andygal> Hey! 12:33 < Sky> Hi 12:33 < Andygal> sup? 12:34 < Sky> not much. 12:41 < Teceler> bk 12:41 < Teceler> hello Andygal, hello kel? 12:42 < Andygal> Hi Teceler, WB 12:53 -!- Kel has quit 13:05 -!- FacelessYoshi has joined #backstage 13:18 < FacelessYoshi> Salutations 13:18 < Andygal> Hi 13:18 < Teceler> hello 13:19 < FacelessYoshi> how are things? 13:19 < Andygal> Fine. 13:50 < FacelessYoshi> I am saving up a little omen card in fallen london because I have no idea when to use it 13:55 < Teceler> hm 13:55 < Teceler> you are not nearly far enough along in the game to want it for SotC XD 13:55 < Teceler> um 13:55 < Teceler> probably when you have a really hard challenge that you care about passing now, or something? 13:56 < FacelessYoshi> huh, okay, I don't think I have any such thing in mind. 13:56 < FacelessYoshi> but I will thik about it 13:56 < FacelessYoshi> thanks 13:56 < FacelessYoshi> *think 13:57 < FacelessYoshi> (what is a SoTC?) 13:58 < Andygal> (spoilers) 13:58 < Teceler> it's a certain quality that is grindable to a high level when near the content barrier with ridiculously-high watchful 13:58 < Teceler> beyond that, yeah, spoilers XD 14:00 < FacelessYoshi> thanks 14:04 <@Adelene> tag 14:04 <@Adelene> ... 14:04 <@Adelene> wrong window 14:05 < Andygal> should we pretend we didn't see that? 14:06 <@Adelene> I mean, it's not secret, just. 14:16 < FacelessYoshi> late but: okay, everyone agrees to not have seen anything! Shadowy is increasing... 14:19 < Teceler> pffft 14:22 < Andygal> XD 14:28 -!- FacelessYoshi has quit 14:58 -!- butcher has quit 15:09 -!- MTC has quit 15:11 -!- Sonata has quit 15:28 -!- Teceler is now known as Teceler|Away 16:18 -!- tecephone has joined #backstage 16:28 -!- linkhyrule5 has joined #backstage 16:34 < tecephone> Hey link? 16:34 < linkhyrule5> hi! 16:34 < tecephone> Hi 16:35 < tecephone> How are you? 16:37 < Andygal> Hi link 16:38 < linkhyrule5> Meh. 16:38 < linkhyrule5> Idiot parents. 16:38 < tecephone> Hug 16:38 < Andygal> what did your parents do? 16:39 < tecephone> If you want to talk about it 16:45 < linkhyrule5> In this case 16:45 < linkhyrule5> Me: "Ambien gives me headaches if I don't sleep it off. If you'll let me sleep in I'll try it tonight?" 16:46 < linkhyrule5> Mom: "No." *slams door, stomps off* 16:46 < linkhyrule5> Me: "..." 16:46 < tecephone> ... 16:46 < Andygal> ... 16:46 < Andygal> Rude. 16:46 < linkhyrule5> Yes. 16:46 < tecephone> Yeah 16:46 < tecephone> Hug 16:49 * linkhyrule5 is hugged! 16:49 < Andygal> (hugs?) 16:49 * linkhyrule5 is hugged! 17:03 -!- FacelessWizard has joined #backstage 17:07 < FacelessWizard> Salutations o/ 17:07 -!- Teceler|Away is now known as Teceler 17:08 < Andygal> wb Teceler 17:08 < Teceler> thanks :) 17:14 -!- Sky has quit 17:41 -!- Sky has joined #backstage 18:30 -!- tecephone has quit 18:30 -!- tecephone has joined #backstage 18:31 -!- Andygal has quit 18:31 -!- Andygal has joined #backstage 18:34 -!- Andyga1 has joined #backstage 18:36 -!- Andygal has quit 18:36 -!- tecephone has quit 18:36 -!- tecephone has joined #backstage 19:02 < Teceler> ... 19:02 -!- tecephone has quit 19:12 -!- linkhyrule5 has quit 19:48 -!- Evenstar has joined #backstage 19:48 < Evenstar> *waves* 19:48 < Teceler> hello Evenstar 19:49 < Evenstar> Hi Teceler 19:51 < FacelessWizard> o/ 19:51 < FacelessWizard> how are things? 19:51 < Teceler> (Evenstar: #Correspondence ) 19:52 * Adelene hmms, wonders if the channel is a good place to ping for a song rec tonight. Theme of 'I'm allowed to have emotions, damn it.' 19:52 < Evenstar> Alright! 19:52 < Evenstar> Hmm! 19:52 * Evenstar considers said song request. 19:52 * Adelene has been interacting too closely with clueless psych professionals this month. :P 19:53 * Evenstar wishes Black Tape for a Blue Girl was still up on youtube. 19:53 * Evenstar reccommends 'I Have No More Answers' by them. 19:53 <@Adelene> ^^ 19:54 < Evenstar> (Maybe not 'damnit' but it's definitely on-theme) 19:54 < Evenstar> https://vimeo.com/50410483 19:54 < Evenstar> (I will look for a more 'damn it' one) 19:55 <@Adelene> The 'damn it' is slightly important but I do have the spoons for multiple songs today. 19:58 < Evenstar> Adelene: Ooh, here is an option! 19:59 < Evenstar> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKMaaIvaHB0 19:59 < Evenstar> (I don't know if you are an electronic music person but this is more-on-theme) 20:00 <@Adelene> I am more of a techno person than this in particular but this is cool ^^ 20:01 <@Adelene> (of what I already have, the Infected Mushroom discography is probably closest to on theme, in fact.) 20:02 <@Adelene> (...or, like... this /is/ techno, that gets more obvious later? It's not like the stuff I usually listen to though.) 20:02 < Evenstar> (She makes really interesting electronic music!) 20:03 < Evenstar> (She is also really difficult to talk about by virtue of being a pronoun.) 20:03 <@Adelene> (One thing that is kind of implicit in 'I am allowed to have emotions, damn it' as I usually do it is that it's largely about /negative/ emotions. Sadness, fear, and rage in particular.) 20:04 < Evenstar> (Ah, let me see what I have in that category) 20:04 <@Adelene> (I don't do those often in practice! But I am fucking ALLOWED.) 20:04 <@Adelene> (Fucking psychiatrists. :P) 20:04 < Teceler> [hug if wanted] 20:05 <@Adelene> *hug* 20:05 < Evenstar> (I am tempted to pull out Voltaire here but I do not think that is /quite/ right) 20:06 < FacelessWizard> aaah 20:06 < FacelessWizard> I read subnormality now I have the sads 20:06 * Adelene hmms, sticks 'Thus Spoke Carly Rae' on repeat in the meantime. 20:06 <@Adelene> *hugs for Faceless* 20:07 * FacelessWizard accepts 20:07 < FacelessWizard> "Thus Spoke Carly Raezenoth" would be a interesting song 20:07 <@Adelene> oooo 20:07 * Adelene does want. <3 20:14 < FacelessWizard> I actually never heard Thus spoke Carly Rae 20:15 <@Adelene> hmm 20:15 <@Adelene> google does not actually make it easy to find 20:15 <@Adelene> I have an mp3 I can upload if it turns out to be unfindable altogether. 20:16 <@Adelene> http://rileyredgate.com/post/90497064702/batmansymbol-welp-here-it-is-the-final 20:16 <@Adelene> click the 'call me maybe' cover. 20:25 -!- Andyga1 is now known as Andygal 20:28 < Evenstar> Adelene: ... I /may/ have a thing for you. 20:28 < Evenstar> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5E4W1G2S4I 20:29 < FacelessWizard> Thus Spoke Carly Rae is... a thing 20:29 * Adelene clicks 20:29 < FacelessWizard> and I want the Raezenoth version like yesterday 20:30 <@Adelene> ...nnnno. to that. 20:30 < Evenstar> Adelene: Hence the 'maybe' 20:30 <@Adelene> (Raezenoth: /YES/.) 20:30 <@Adelene> *hug for Evenstar* 20:31 < FacelessWizard> I can see why Adelene doesnt like 20:31 < Evenstar> I am annoyed that Emilie Autumn does not appear to have the song you are looking for. 20:31 < FacelessWizard> it giving me interesting mental imagines 20:31 <@Adelene> Thus Spoke Carly Rae is hitting the spot quite a bit better than I it expected to, anyway. 20:32 <@Adelene> (And the attempt is appreciated. ^^) 20:33 < FacelessWizard> Someone can give me a mental cleanser so I stop picturing elaborate musical numbers based on Girls!Girls!GIrls! 20:33 < FacelessWizard> ? 20:33 < Evenstar> (Emilie Autumn appears to have songs regarding general psychiatric nastiness but /not/ in the area you would like) 20:33 <@Adelene> yeah, that's not super surprising. 20:33 <@Adelene> We are a very niche subculture, us mad pride sorts. :P 20:34 < Evenstar> (Well, I would say she is on your side of the whole debate) 20:34 < Evenstar> (Which is why I am suprised.) 20:35 <@Adelene> Possibly that's more obvious with a different introduction. 20:35 < Evenstar> (Yes, perhaps I should direct you to this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XGOpsIjawE 20:36 <@Adelene> *clicks* 20:36 <@Adelene> *shrieks, stops* 20:36 < FacelessWizard> o.o 20:36 < Evenstar> (Which is kind of off-topic but illustrates the reasons why I feel Emilie is on your side on this) 20:36 < Teceler> [hug?] 20:36 * Evenstar eeps and hugs. 20:36 <@Adelene> that possibly did not mean what it parsed as but NO. 20:37 * FacelessWizard offers hugs 20:37 <@Adelene> I am okay. 20:37 <@Adelene> I /am/. 20:37 <@Adelene> Just. 20:37 <@Adelene> No. 20:38 < Evenstar> (Which is why I did not suggest it in the first place, it is not exactly a self-care song.) 20:38 < Evenstar> (:I) 20:38 < Evenstar> (Sorry.) 20:38 <@Adelene> *hug* 20:38 < Evenstar> *hug* 20:39 < Evenstar> (But yes, the background here is that Emilie Autumn was diagnosed with bipolar and spent time institutionalized for it. Badly.) 20:39 <@Adelene> my brain comes with this nice little emotional segregation feature? Which means I go !!!!! and then that never gets out of the module it's in, just throws a bunch of error messages. So I /am/ in fact okay. But. I am not listening to that today. I would not continue to be. 20:39 < Teceler> that is a useful thing to have 20:39 <@Adelene> Quite. 20:39 < Evenstar> (That is.) 20:40 < Evenstar> (I apologize for accidentally causing your brain's antivirus to have to work overtime.) 20:40 <@Adelene> *hug* S'ok. 20:41 < Evenstar> (*hug*) 20:41 < Andygal> (hug) 20:41 * Adelene was not institutionalized, but was involuntarily drugged and does have PTSD about that thing in particular. So. 20:42 < Evenstar> ... Yeah I probably should have thought that though a bit better. 20:42 <@Adelene> It's easy to forget! I handle it pretty well, I think. 20:43 < Evenstar> (In future I will flag these things.) 20:43 <@Adelene> Thanks. :) 20:45 <@Adelene> (I am a little twitchier than usual right now because my recent autism screening came with a free bonus depression-and-anxiety screening that they didnt', y'know, warn me about or get my fucking /consent/ for. And that's a trigger.) 20:45 < Evenstar> (Agh!) 20:46 < Andygal> (hugs) 20:46 <@Adelene> Yeah. 20:46 <@Adelene> *hug* 20:46 < Teceler> [hugs] 20:46 < Evenstar> (I enitrely fricking understand your position there :O) 20:46 <@Adelene> I'm okay, but, like, for some values of okay. 20:47 < Evenstar> (Hmm. Here is a possible palate cleanser. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbnumphZdPE ) 20:47 <@Adelene> *clicks* 20:48 < Evenstar> (I admit to rushing a bit >.>) 20:49 <@Adelene> (And I did by the way have Words with the screener about consent, and the relevant bit is being removed from my paperwork with a specific note that it's being left out because of concerns about medical mistreatment.) 20:49 <@Adelene> (Which is Acceptable.) 20:49 < Andygal> I guess that's something? 20:50 < Evenstar> (I agree that this is Acceptable) 20:50 < Evenstar> (merely) 20:51 <@Adelene> Given the situation it's probably the actual best I can do - my paperwork will be, y'know, something I can actually contemplate showing people without risking a panic attack, and hopefully she will not do the thing to anyone else. 20:51 <@Adelene> (I liked that song, Evenstar.) 20:51 < Teceler> [hug] 20:51 <@Adelene> *hug* 20:53 < Evenstar> *hug* 20:54 -!- linkhyrule5 has joined #backstage 20:54 < Evenstar> Hm. Here is an amusing song about a workaholic. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGQmmDEDYiI&index=5&list=PLDC6D5D769115B6AE 20:54 * Adelene is mostly listening to Thus Spoke Carly Rae on repeat still, but pauses and clicks. 20:55 < Evenstar> (I'm trying to cut down on my caffeine consumption, so when I get up I just have one cup of coffee, then I have another cup of coffee with my breakfast...) 20:55 < FacelessWizard> I have no idea what Thus Spoke Carly Raezenoth would be like 20:57 < FacelessWizard> I like this much better 21:00 < Teceler> hello link? 21:01 < linkhyrule5> harrrrrroooooo 21:08 < FacelessWizard> for a moment, I thought that Tec was asking for a link 21:08 < Teceler> Faceless: pft 21:08 < Andygal> pffft 21:12 < FacelessWizard> damn it subnormality is making me sad again :/ 21:36 < FacelessWizard> what are you guys up to? 21:36 < Andygal> wasting time. 21:37 * Evenstar is continuing to find songs. 21:44 < FacelessWizard> for what purpose? 21:44 < FacelessWizard> I am still reading subnormality against my better judgement 21:44 < Teceler> [hug if wanted] 21:45 * FacelessWizard accepts 21:45 < Teceler> do you have a reason for reading it? 21:48 < FacelessWizard> It is actually good 21:52 < FacelessWizard> it is just the kind of good that reaches inside your chest and twists your heart 21:53 <@Adelene> *nodnod* 22:23 -!- Evenstar has quit 22:26 -!- VerdanZzz has joined #backstage 22:26 < VerdanZzz> I exist, everything is okay, but I am a very tired and sleepy Verdancy so it is bedtime 22:26 < Teceler> hellois Verdancy 22:26 < Teceler> [hug] 22:26 < Teceler> *helloish 22:26 < VerdanZzz> *hugs* 22:26 < Andygal> Hi. Goodnight. 22:26 < VerdanZzz> Hi! 22:27 < VerdanZzz> Hi to you too 22:27 < VerdanZzz> Hopefully I will have brain in the morning 22:27 < VerdanZzz> Good night. 22:27 < Teceler> sleep well 22:27 < VerdanZzz> Thank you :) 22:44 < FacelessWizard> gonna crash too 22:44 < FacelessWizard> good night people 22:44 < Teceler> sleep well faceless 22:49 -!- FacelessWizard has quit 22:57 -!- Kel has joined #backstage 22:58 < Teceler> kel? 22:58 < Kel> hi 22:58 < Teceler> hi 22:58 < Teceler> are you wandering in right before you go sleep too? :P 22:58 < Kel> oh 22:59 < Kel> yeah I probably should soon 22:59 < Teceler> (Verdancy was just briefly here, is context) 22:59 < Kel> oh ok 22:59 < Teceler> [hug] 22:59 < Kel> [hug] ? 23:18 < Kel> the forum is doing stuff again! 23:54 -!- Kel is now known as Kelsleep 23:58 -!- Kelsleep has quit --- Day changed Sat Sep 05 2015 00:03 -!- MTC has joined #backstage 00:12 -!- MTC has quit 00:12 < Teceler> I am going to go sleep now 00:13 < Andygal> sleep well! 00:13 < Teceler> thanks :) 00:16 -!- Teceler is now known as Teceler|Asleep 00:16 -!- MTC has joined #backstage 01:45 -!- Sky has quit 02:14 -!- linkhyrule5 has quit
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Post by Mother Starlight on Sept 6, 2015 22:01:43 GMT
06:05 -!- Butcher has joined #backstage 06:27 -!- FacelessDude has joined #backstage 06:30 < FacelessDude> morning 07:05 < FacelessDude> ping? 07:18 -!- Andygal has quit 07:35 -!- FacelessDude has quit 08:42 -!- FacelessDude has joined #backstage 08:44 < FacelessDude> hello? 09:04 -!- Kelsewhere has joined #backstage 09:36 -!- Sky has joined #backstage 09:55 < FacelessDude> hi? 09:58 -!- Teceler|Asleep is now known as Teceler 09:58 < Teceler> hello faceless 10:02 < FacelessDude> salutations o/ 11:10 -!- Kelsewhere is now known as Kelaway 11:10 < Kelaway> (homework) 11:10 < Teceler> helloish kel 11:55 -!- Butcher has quit 12:22 -!- FacelessDude has quit 13:27 -!- FacelessLondoner has joined #backstage 13:43 -!- Sky has quit 14:48 -!- Evenstar has joined #backstage 14:48 < Evenstar> *waves* 14:48 < Teceler> hello 14:49 < Evenstar> Hi Teceler 14:50 * Evenstar reading Blessings has resulted in her wanting a Joker to encounter an Eva. 14:50 * Evenstar hums. 14:54 * Evenstar also considers having Sometimes encounter various people. 14:54 < Evenstar> (Sometimes is Box!cat.) 14:54 < Teceler> ah! 14:55 < Evenstar> (Her name is deliberately confusing.) 14:55 < Teceler> pfft 14:56 < Evenstar> (A clueless person attempted to keep her and name her 'Midnight' once) 14:56 < Evenstar> (... That did not end well for said clueless person.) 14:56 < Teceler> oh dear 14:56 < Evenstar> (Their furniture will never be the same.) 14:56 < Teceler> pfffft 14:56 < Evenstar> (Nor will their reputation.) 14:57 < Evenstar> (You don't mess with cats in Fallen London.) 14:57 < Teceler> indeeed 14:58 < Evenstar> (Also I have another detail to add to Ahrotahn's dreams :3 ) 14:58 < Evenstar> (Bwahahah.) 15:00 * Evenstar considers. "The OTC mails various people a cat" seems like a decent option for a sandbox. 15:00 < Teceler> pffft 15:00 < Teceler> why /did/ Ahrotan get that cat? 15:01 < Evenstar> (Another of OTC's clients in Fallen London took the pass-the-cat game a bit too far) 15:01 < Teceler> ...pfffffft 15:02 < Evenstar> (Literally delivered to a random sophont the OTC knew about, after safety considerations.) 15:02 < Teceler> pfft 15:03 < Evenstar> (I wonder what would happen if a Bell with Standard Bell Backstory suddenly received a wrapped cat) 15:03 < Evenstar> (They would be the sort to try and puzzle it out) 15:03 < Teceler> also, 'Another of OTC's clients in Fallen London' 15:03 < Teceler> hee 15:03 < Evenstar> Yep! 15:04 < FacelessLondoner> Hi humans 15:04 < Teceler> hello faceless 15:04 < FacelessLondoner> I am backloging, but I want oask, Evenstar you read Elemental Blessings and want Eva to meet Loel or any joker? 15:05 < Evenstar> Faceless: Any Joker, Loel would be nice but I think any Joker would share the motivation set that is the interesting thing? 15:05 -!- MTC has quit 15:05 < Evenstar> Like, the main thing is that I think an Eva would instantly understand the Becoming-Coru-Prime thing. 15:06 < Evenstar> Though she would probably keep a backup? 15:06 -!- Sonata has joined #backstage 15:06 -!- mode/#backstage [+o Sonata] by ChanServ 15:06 < FacelessLondoner> you mean she would become a Coru-Prime? I also have a character that is likely to ake primedom if he ever stepped on Quinn 15:06 < Evenstar> But she would be like 'that makes intuitive sense to me you are only slightly crazy' 15:07 < Evenstar> No, I mean she would understand why that joker /spoilers/ 15:08 < Evenstar> (PMed at you Faceless 15:08 < Evenstar> ) 15:08 < Evenstar> Also Hi Sonata! 15:08 < Evenstar> I am sorry I will get you a picture right away 15:08 <@Sonata> hi 15:08 <@Sonata> is fine, no hurry 15:08 -!- kappabeta has joined #backstage 15:08 -!- mode/#backstage [+o kappabeta] by ChanServ 15:09 <@kappabeta> i am summoned 15:09 < Evenstar> Sonata: http://i.imgur.com/oSbDlgv.jpg 15:09 < Evenstar> Kappabeta: You are! 15:09 <@kappabeta> what's up 15:09 < Teceler> hello kappa 15:09 < Evenstar> I really want to do an Eva/Joker sandbox sometime. 15:09 <@kappabeta> hehe 15:10 < Evenstar> Because I feel like Jokers' "this experience is important" thing is something Evas intuitively understand and agree with? 15:10 < Evenstar> (The thing-Loel-did-to-become-Prime stands out as an example) 15:11 < FacelessLondoner> late hi kappabeta 15:12 < Evenstar> And I think it would be interesting for a Joker to meet someone who understood that for some value of 'understand' that is not 'tolerate'. 15:12 <@kappabeta> heh. 15:12 <@kappabeta> that does sound interesting! 15:12 <@kappabeta> Yeah, Jokers self-forcing phase transitions is... a thing 15:14 < FacelessLondoner> I know I often joke about being like this stereotypical shipper-obsessed person 15:14 < FacelessLondoner> but I do wonder 15:14 < FacelessLondoner> how likely is for a sandbox between the two to result in cuddles? 15:14 < Evenstar> Would you have a preferred setting for said sandbox? I think it might also be interesting to see how the OTC might fix Standard Joker Backstory issues. 15:14 <@kappabeta> pffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff 15:15 <@kappabeta> how do you mean 15:15 < Evenstar> FacelessLondoner: That is a really interesting question with a nonzero probability? 15:15 < FacelessLondoner> I am saying that it sounds like they would fit well together 15:15 < FacelessLondoner> but I dont know that much about Eva 15:16 < Evenstar> Well, keep in mind that the OTC accepts pain and sells 'satisfying victories over a nemesis'. 15:16 <@kappabeta> XD 15:16 < Evenstar> FacelessLondoner: It is an interesting thought! 15:16 <@kappabeta> I feel like a Joker wouldn't be into that as a solution 15:17 < FacelessLondoner> Kappabeta, why not exactly? 15:17 < FacelessLondoner> also I have a sudden urge to send poofs to loel and pet him 15:17 <@kappabeta> Buying a magic thing that arranges for you to somehow have satisfying victories over a nemesis just seems, hm 15:17 < Evenstar> Which is why I want to see how a Joker with access to everything OTC offers solves their problem! (I realize we sort of got that with the original Eos!Joker, though.) 15:17 <@kappabeta> they don't want to interact with Izikiel at all in any way 15:18 <@kappabeta> hahahahahahahaha 15:18 < FacelessLondoner> Kappabeta not even to save his brother? 15:18 <@kappabeta> I mean, we didn't, the Eos Joker's solution was very much... Bella-driven 15:18 < FacelessLondoner> btw loel-brother-who-i-forgot-the-name still gets beaten? 15:19 < Evenstar> (Jokers and Fate manipulation really don't get along) 15:19 <@kappabeta> yes, isten does 15:19 <@kappabeta> and yes, they really don't 15:20 <@Sonata> Luckily, OTC also sells AK-47s. 15:20 < Evenstar> Or plasma guns if AK-47s aren't cool enough for you. 15:20 < Evenstar> :P 15:20 <@Sonata> For troubleshooting. 15:21 < FacelessLondoner> :( 15:21 < FacelessLondoner> poor isten 15:21 * FacelessLondoner clutches isten 15:21 < FacelessLondoner> DONT WORRY YOU WILL BE SAVED! 15:21 < Evenstar> (I am not certain if that is also a Joker thing, though it might be given some of their histories re: Houses and Explosions.) 15:21 < FacelessLondoner> I actually curious about that one 15:21 < Evenstar> (But those weren't exactly Ideal Circumstances.) 15:21 < FacelessLondoner> more or less about the... particulars? 15:22 < FacelessLondoner> like, why a explosion, how they set it up? would they warn hilary or something? 15:22 < FacelessLondoner> was like a last minute decision? 15:22 <@kappabeta> troubleshooting <3 15:23 < FacelessLondoner> ?? 15:23 < Evenstar> (You find trouble, and then you shoot it. But not Trouble, she is nice.) 15:23 <@kappabeta> Yeah, I have no idea what a still-at-home A-Joker would do with the OTC 15:23 < Evenstar> (Unless she wants to be shot.) 15:23 < Evenstar> (Which she might?) 15:23 < Evenstar> Kappabeta: Want to find out? :3 15:24 <@Adelene> pfft. 15:24 <@kappabeta> hehehe 15:24 <@kappabeta> kinda! 15:24 < Evenstar> (Also this would give people an opportunity to see Eva before she suddenly was promoted like three times) 15:24 < Teceler> (pft) 15:24 <@kappabeta> did you have a particular varietyof joker in mind? 15:24 < Evenstar> (The OTC branch on the forum is /large/) 15:25 < Evenstar> Kappabeta: Not particularly, though if you have no opinion Loel is very slightly preferred simply because I have read her more recently? 15:26 <@kappabeta> heh 15:29 * Sonata vaguely wonders what a society would look like where OTC has been operating openly for a long time 15:30 < Evenstar> I expect that in those worlds, the Fire Lotus minting kit gets a lot more use! 15:30 < Teceler> pffft 15:31 < Evenstar> Also mental editing is probably somewhat widespread via BT and Udi trading, also Izikiel are likely illegal? 15:32 < Evenstar> There are probably reflex-training obstacle courses for athletes to generate Chron on safely. 15:32 <@kappabeta> pfffffffffffffffffffffffff 15:32 < Teceler> pffffft 15:33 < Evenstar> Also pretty much everybody is immortal, 1 Ka per five years is a low enough cost that welfare likely covers it 15:34 < Evenstar> And it is probably a generally very eclectic high-Magitech sort of place. 15:36 < Evenstar> Societal division is probably fairly sharp - the really rich can afford their own planes and are basically gods by the power of capitalism. 15:37 < Evenstar> I would say it likely turns out somewhere between Shadowrun, Eclipse Phase, and Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann. 15:37 < Evenstar> (I will need to think more about this.) 15:38 <@Sonata> I'm thinking of what was that one rationalfic that was like PMMM in a far future post-scarcity society 15:38 <@Sonata> and the magic stuff was public knowledge i think 15:39 < Evenstar> Probably fairly closish! 15:39 <@Sonata> Evenstar, it looks like the loose gear would go on the upper left peg and mesh the left gearage to the left recessed-gear? 15:39 < Evenstar> Sonata: Yes. 15:41 < Evenstar> Also I am extending an invitation to people-at-large, if you would like one of your characters to receive a boxed cat I am willing to deliver. 15:42 <@kappabeta> ooh. 15:42 < Evenstar> (Pun intended) 15:42 <@kappabeta> <3 <3 <3 15:42 < Teceler> (Niryl is totally unsurprised by recieving a boxed cat ;P) 15:42 < Teceler> *:P 15:43 <@Sonata> Evenstar, tag. 15:46 < Evenstar> Tag, Sonata 15:49 < Evenstar> Kappabeta: Apparently you are intrigued by boxed cats? 15:49 <@kappabeta> yes 15:50 <@Adelene> Lurker and Miles could receive a boxed cat when she gets back. 15:51 < Evenstar> Kappabeta: Who would you prefer to receive one? 15:51 < Evenstar> Adelene: That could also work! 15:51 <@kappabeta> I cannot decide who I would like to throw a boxed cat at! 15:52 -!- VerdanZzz is now known as Verdancy|Away 15:52 < Evenstar> (Though Miles' planar defenses might have something to say about it?) 15:52 <@kappabeta> there's also the question of whether a boxed cat would turn into a great big "so-and-so encounters Fallen London and things happen" sandbox 15:52 < Verdancy|Away> everything still fine just busy with chores and stuff but gtg work now 15:52 < Verdancy|Away> sorry 15:52 < Teceler> okay 15:52 < Teceler> good luck 15:52 < Verdancy|Away> thanks! 15:53 < Evenstar> Kappabeta: Well, we could maybe mesh it with the OTC-sandbox and make the Joker's introduction to the OTC be a mysteriously-appearing boxed cat? 15:53 <@kappabeta> ...hehehehehe 15:54 < Evenstar> (That is an evil chuckle and I like it) 15:54 <@kappabeta> <3 15:54 <@kappabeta> who the heck would be sending him the cat though 15:55 < Evenstar> The cats are literally randomly directed! 15:55 < Evenstar> (But if it comes to that I do have a character in mind) 15:55 <@kappabeta> to recipients drawn from what pool? 15:55 < Evenstar> Sentients who live in places acceptable to cats and in contact with the OTC! 15:56 <@kappabeta> haha 15:57 <@Sonata> so it can't be a first contact then 15:57 <@Sonata> unless you mean the /place/ has to be in contact? 15:57 < Evenstar> The /place/ has to be in contact. 15:57 <@Adelene> yeah, I'm parsing that as [sentients [places [cat-acceptable] [OTC-connected]]] 16:01 < Evenstar> So, like, all inhabitable parts of earth are eligible if OTC has contacted someone in the deep Amazon. 16:01 < Evenstar> Universes are /big/ 16:05 < Evenstar> Basically, the algorithm is 'pick a universe at random > find a sentient in that universe > can the area near them comfortably support an additional cat for the next decade? > send. 16:06 < Evenstar> (Backing up and trying new universes if no such sentient can be located or if no such location can be found) 16:09 < Evenstar> (Incidentally, I have a sneaking suspicion that the pass-the-cat game was invented by the cats themselves to obscure their movements) 16:10 < Teceler> ...then why does the Duchess disapprove of it? 16:10 <@Sonata> Perhaps they have not seen fit to take her quite so far into their confidences. 16:10 < Evenstar> Because the Duchess is not exactly a cat, now is she? 16:10 < Teceler> pfft 16:11 < Evenstar> Not all cats agree with her, in any case. http://fallenlondon.wikia.com/wiki/Midnight_Matriarch 16:11 -!- Evenstar has quit 16:12 < Teceler> ... 16:12 -!- Evenstar has joined #backstage 16:12 < Evenstar> (Connection. :I) 16:12 < Teceler> all you missed what me going '...' 16:15 -!- Evenstar has quit 16:16 -!- Evenstar has joined #backstage 16:16 < Evenstar> (On the other hand, some of the cats do seem rather out out by it.) 16:16 -!- Evenstar has quit 16:16 -!- Evenstar has joined #backstage 16:17 < Evenstar> (Okay, this connection is starting to annoy me.) 16:17 < Evenstar> >.> 16:18 < Evenstar> Kappabeta: I will leave you to consider which joker-flavour you would like to receive a boxed cat :3 16:18 <@kappabeta> hahahaha hmmm 16:20 <@kappabeta> idk, like, nothing springs out at me except that I have a vague preference for people in places where the concept of a corporation exists to interact with the OTC, and a vague inarticulable aesthetic preference for what sort of a world someone ought to live in if they're going to receive a boxed cat 16:22 < Evenstar> One that supports receiving cats through the mail, or one where cats talk? :P 16:22 <@kappabeta> those are both pretty articulable 16:22 <@Sonata> does it have anything to do with mysteriousness? 16:22 < Evenstar> Hmm okay 16:22 <@kappabeta> sonata: sort of? 16:22 <@kappabeta> It's like... 16:23 < Evenstar> What sorts of world are better? 16:23 <@Sonata> examples of particularly good and bad worlds? 16:23 <@kappabeta> hmmmmm, thinking 16:23 -!- Evenstar has quit 16:24 -!- Evenstar has joined #backstage 16:24 < Evenstar> (Hi again >.>) 16:24 <@kappabeta> particularly bad world to receive a boxed cat in: Cape 16:24 <@kappabeta> neutralish world to receive a boxed cat in: Nexus 16:26 < Evenstar> Receiving a boxed cat should be inexplicable? 16:26 < Evenstar> And Cape offers too many possible explanations? 16:26 <@kappabeta> not... exactly 16:27 <@Sonata> cape feels... clean? wrong genre? 16:27 <@kappabeta> I think it's that Cape offers the *wrong kind* of explanations 16:27 <@Sonata> like, i think mysterious old woman world would be pretty good 16:27 <@kappabeta> somewhat, yes 16:27 <@Sonata> or Reverie 16:27 <@Sonata> though maybe those worlds are too nice? 16:28 <@kappabeta> Reverie maybe a little less so because it doesn't exactly run on fairy tale logic it just had a fairy tale happen in it 16:28 < Evenstar> It's not such an issue with say questionless-elves-world-that-I-forget-the-name-of 16:28 <@kappabeta> Thilanushinyel 16:28 < Evenstar> No wonder I forgot it's name 16:28 < Evenstar> *its 16:28 < Evenstar> :P 16:29 <@kappabeta> I think the thing about receiving a boxed cat is that it should be either something you were completely unprepared for and can't explain at all, or something where you can guess what might be going on and be broadly in the rightish genre, but it *shouldn't* be something where you guess what happened and get something completely wrong 16:29 <@Sonata> a Sunshine-family world, maybe? 16:29 <@kappabeta> Sunshine is a good boxed cat target 16:30 < Evenstar> I was thinking Eos-without-Wishcoins more or less (AKA just normal earth) 16:31 <@Adelene> ...canon Joker and a boxed cat. 16:31 <@kappabeta> ...XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 16:31 < Evenstar> ... Pffft 16:31 <@kappabeta> Canon Joker is not a valid target for deliverables though. 16:31 <@kappabeta> Like, I assume the OTC wouldn't take the cat to his front door. 16:32 < Evenstar> It would deliver the cost somewhere where it would be found. 16:32 < Evenstar> *cat 16:33 <@Sonata> why not canon joker valid target? 16:33 < Evenstar> Ahrotahn has no postbox 16:33 < Evenstar> So it appeared on her table instead 16:33 < Evenstar> (The cat-package that is) 16:34 <@kappabeta> Ahrohtahn is a valid target for deliverables, the OTC delivers her things, doesn't it? 16:34 <@Sonata> yes 16:34 < Evenstar> Right. 16:34 < Evenstar> Kappabeta: We can sidestep the issue by saying that somewhere in canonjokerverse there are a bunch of aliens somewhere who are trading with OTC. 16:35 <@kappabeta> what issue does that sidestep? 16:35 < Evenstar> He would still be a target for deliverables, OTC does not need to have met him personally? 16:35 < Evenstar> Or is there another issue? 16:35 <@kappabeta> the Joker is not a valid target for deliverables in *general* 16:36 < Evenstar> It's impossible to send him things? 16:36 <@Adelene> I think Kappa thinks there's a problem with the Joker in question having a place to have things delivered to. (I don't think this is actually a problem but it might be, I don't know why Kappa thinks that thing.) 16:38 < Evenstar> The OTC is happy to deliver a cat to, I dunno, the inside of a bank vault the Joker is robbing. 16:38 <@kappabeta> he belongs to several categories for which it is probably true that the OTC would damage its reputation by having a policy of magically delivering items from arbitrary senders to people in that category - "on the run from the law", "living under an assumed identity" 16:38 <@kappabeta> and if someone were to deliver a boxed cat to *his address* rather than *him as a person* this would involve interacting with his front door, which is hazardous 16:39 -!- Mornstar has joined #backstage 16:39 < Mornstar> (Sigh@connection) 16:39 < Mornstar> Did you get my last message? 16:39 <@kappabeta> (5:38:08 PM) Evenstar: The OTC is happy to deliver a cat to, I dunno, the inside of a bank vault the Joker is robbing. 16:39 <@kappabeta> (5:38:26 PM) kappabeta: he belongs to several categories for which it is probably true that the OTC would damage its reputation by having a policy of magically delivering items from arbitrary senders to people in that category - "on the run from the law", "living under an assumed identity" 16:39 <@kappabeta> (5:38:56 PM) kappabeta: and if someone were to deliver a boxed cat to *his address* rather than *him as a person* this would involve interacting with his front door, which is hazardous 16:40 < Teceler> <Evenstar> The OTC is happy to deliver a cat to, I dunno, the inside of a bank vault the Joker is robbing. 16:40 < Teceler> is the last thing from you Evenstar 16:40 < Mornstar> Then yes, you have it! 16:41 < Mornstar> Kappabeta: That is a point. 16:42 <@kappabeta> I feel like it's in the OTC's best interests to only deliver random items to people who in some sense present themselves to receive deliveries in general 16:42 < Mornstar> (Probably they would be concerned about injury to the cat.) 16:42 <@kappabeta> hehe 16:42 < Mornstar> (More than the Joker managing to do something nefarious with an unexpected cat) 16:43 -!- Evenstar has quit 16:43 <@kappabeta> XD 16:43 -!- Mornstar is now known as Evenstar 16:43 <@kappabeta> the Joker is not inclined to do any nefarious things with an unexpected cat 16:43 <@kappabeta> unless the cat feels like collaborating in nefariousness 16:43 <@Sonata> if the Joker had the chance to /choose/ whether to be a catbox target, would he pick yes or no? 16:43 <@Sonata> seems like a relevant question 16:43 < Evenstar> (Well, she /is/ a cat) 16:44 < Evenstar> (So probably yes?) 16:44 <@Sonata> and i feel like the answer would be 'if the cat's ok with it, sure' 16:44 < Evenstar> (:P) 16:44 <@kappabeta> he might pick yes to catboxes *in particular* but he probably would *not* want to be listed as a valid recipient for random deliveries in *general*? 16:45 <@kappabeta> like, if the question is "do you want to receive a random talking cat" the answer is "that sounds fun" but if the question is "do you want this interdimensional corporation to have you listed as a possible target for random deliveries" the answer is "definitely not" 16:45 < Evenstar> (Hmm. Okay then.) 16:47 < Evenstar> (Oh! I just had a thought. Sweater!WhiteCourt!Joker?) 16:47 < Evenstar> (Whose name I again forget >.>) 16:47 <@kappabeta> tentatively 'buttercup' 16:48 < Evenstar> Tentatively Buttercup then. I feel like Dresdenverse is a good world for cats? Because corporations and also Fae. 16:49 < Evenstar> (And faerie tales as a result) 16:50 <@kappabeta> of course then i have to invent buttercup a home life XD but that shouldn't be *too* too hard 16:51 < Evenstar> (I am also fairly recent on Dresdenverse magic, whereas Sunshine magic I have reviewed the source material less recently for) 16:52 < Evenstar> TL:DR established vampire cultures are terrible. 16:52 < Evenstar> (No, go away smiley >.>) 16:52 < Evenstar> (You should not be in my abbreviation) 16:54 < Evenstar> (Anyway I am vanishing for a while now) 16:55 < Evenstar> (Feel free to keep considering things while I am gone. :3) 16:55 -!- Evenstar has quit 16:56 <@kappabeta> i am super tired all of a sudden. i may go have a nappa. 16:56 <@Adelene> I still wanna see canon!Joker with a catbox. Maybe he gets one that was aimed at someone else, because lol fate effects? 16:56 -!- kappabeta has left #backstage 17:15 -!- Sonata has quit 17:21 -!- FacelessLondoner has quit 17:33 -!- Sonata has joined #backstage 17:33 -!- mode/#backstage [+o Sonata] by ChanServ 17:42 -!- Andygal has joined #backstage 17:46 < Andygal> Hi 17:46 < Teceler> hello Andygal 17:47 <@Sonata> hi 17:53 -!- Evenstar has joined #backstage 17:53 < Evenstar> Hi again all! 17:53 < Evenstar> Hopefully I am now on a real connection. 17:53 < Andygal> Hi Evenstar! 17:53 < Teceler> hopefully! 17:54 < Evenstar> (Ooh, I just had a thought) 17:54 < Evenstar> (the OTC meeting the Organization could be interesting.) 17:55 < Evenstar> (Given that they are like, the only two multiversal organizations they would have encountered) 17:55 < Evenstar> (Maybe the Organization will finally get a name :P) 17:55 < Evenstar> (Now that there is something to disambiguate from) 17:55 < Teceler> pfffft 18:12 -!- Sonata has quit 18:38 < Evenstar> (Alicorn's reaction to catbox is 'why is it traditional to mail cats') 18:38 < Evenstar> (I am amused by this) 18:38 < Teceler> pft 18:38 < Andygal> Heeeee 18:38 < Teceler> because Fallen London 18:44 -!- FacelessDude has joined #backstage 18:45 < FacelessDude> good evening 18:45 < Andygal> Hi 18:45 < FacelessDude> whas up? 18:51 * Evenstar is considering boxed cats and so on 18:52 * Evenstar wants to mail a Joker a cat. 18:53 < FacelessDude> hey, it is possible to deactivate to use the email to start a new one? 18:57 <@Adelene> (9/5/2015 4:56:28 PM) Adelene: I still wanna see canon!Joker with a catbox. Maybe he gets one that was aimed at someone else, because lol fate effects? 19:01 < Evenstar> (The other thing that would be interesting along with the Organization encountering OTC would be a full Peal of Bells meeting the OTC) 19:02 < Evenstar> (I don't think /they've/ met any truly-multiversal problems yet either, save for, say, Jane breaks) 20:35 < FacelessDude> hi again 20:35 < FacelessDude> jane breaks don't really count 20:35 < FacelessDude> I actually remember thinking of something like a "dark peal" 20:36 < FacelessDude> in the sense of a multiversal organization that isn't using powers for the greater 20:37 -!- Kelaway is now known as Kel 20:40 < Teceler> Kel! 20:40 < Andygal> Hey 20:40 < FacelessDude> Salutations, Kel 20:41 < Kel> salutations! (if you would seek my secrets, speak to my snake?) 20:41 -!- Sky has joined #backstage 20:41 < Kel> hi! 20:41 < Teceler> hello again sky 20:41 < Sky> hola 20:42 < FacelessDude> salutations 20:42 < FacelessDude> kel *parseltongue noises* 20:42 * FacelessDude is saying "I want to iron my dog" in parseltongue 20:43 < Kel> ... do not do that 20:43 < Kel> that is a bad idea 20:43 < Teceler> that sounds rather bad for the dog 20:47 < FacelessDude> *more parseltongue noises* 20:47 * FacelessDude is saying "where I can find the paint bucket so I can take a swim" 21:01 < Andygal> swimming in paint seems unhealthy. 21:02 < Kel> maybe if it is nontoxic? 21:02 < Kel> it sounds kinda fun depending on what it smells like? 21:03 * Evenstar is threading Demon!Joker Catbox! 21:03 < Evenstar> http://glowfic.dreamwidth.org/12259.html#comments 21:03 < Andygal> eeeeee!!!!! 21:03 < Teceler> ooo 21:19 < FacelessDude> aianon! 21:20 < FacelessDude> my favorite nudist joker! 21:23 < Evenstar> (That is a surprisingly broad category to choose from) 21:24 < Evenstar> (Because Celo and also Loel) 21:24 < FacelessDude> I think Kas also counts? 21:24 < Evenstar> (Also Kas because skycladness.) 21:24 < FacelessDude> and huh, if you count loel... not sure 21:25 < Evenstar> Loel is definitely in the club due to his time spent not being a prince or a prime. 21:25 < FacelessDude> yeah, in nudist-land 21:25 < FacelessDude> I wonder if the other nudist jokers will want to visit that 21:25 < Andygal> Celo is the biggest nudist. 21:26 < FacelessDude> We noticed 21:26 < FacelessDude> I don't think he ever wore anything more than a magical blur? 21:26 < Andygal> Nope. 21:27 < Evenstar> (He kind of needs the absence of clothing to live) 21:27 < Evenstar> (He should meet a Floran some time, I bet they would get along great) 21:28 < FacelessDude> Floran? 21:28 < Evenstar> ((Florans are mobile plants with magical photosynthesis. If they don't have sunlight on the vast majority of their skin they get sluggish and depressed.)) 21:28 < FacelessDude> they are the people from Kel's setting? 21:29 < Andygal> Nope. 21:29 < Evenstar> (((They are from Kumi's world but good guess))) 21:29 < Teceler> different plant-people 21:29 < FacelessDude> so many plant people 21:29 < Andygal> BE's people are not nudists. 21:29 < Evenstar> ((((There are multiple reasons why I think they would get along with Celo specifically :P)))) 21:29 < FacelessDude> joker reasons? 21:29 < Evenstar> (((Also wow, such parenthesis nesting))) 21:29 < Andygal> affinity with plants reasons I think. 21:30 < Evenstar> ((Also 'really sex-positive culture' reasons.)) 21:32 < FacelessDude> that tends to make jokers get along with you yes 21:32 < Evenstar> (Recall: Kumi's world.) 21:32 < Andygal> (imagine a Joker in Test Bed's world) 21:35 < Evenstar> (... Yep.) 21:35 < Evenstar> (consider that to have been imagined) 21:37 < FacelessDude> unrelated: aianon was the one to make tentacle monsters right? 21:37 < Andygal> Yep. 21:37 < Andygal> well tentacle sex plants. 21:38 < Evenstar> (And the florans check off everything on their list) 21:39 < FacelessDude> ? 21:39 < Evenstar> Plants: *checkmark* 21:39 < Evenstar> Sex: *checkmark* 21:40 < Evenstar> Tentacles: *checkmark* 21:40 < Evenstar> (This is like an established Floran Thing.) 21:42 < FacelessDude> ah... okay, good to know 21:43 < Evenstar> (That said, the Florans are in a world that my characters inhabit, but they are not /mine/ which is why you have not seen them much.) 21:43 < Evenstar> (Though if I ever get around to describing Prismatis then they will be seen then) 21:45 < FacelessDude> sure 21:45 < FacelessDude> Prismatis is the world? 21:45 < FacelessDude> (it is also a spell word from HPMOR) 21:47 < Evenstar> Prismatis is the island where the Vanessae live, they have an interesting sort of magic that's charged by strong emotion and stored in their butterfly wings as brilliant color. 21:47 < Evenstar> It is in Kumi's world but has yet to be described. 21:48 < FacelessDude> ok 21:48 < FacelessDude> cool 21:49 < Andygal> are the butterfly people nice? 21:50 < Evenstar> They are big on emotional expression. Also they are butterflies and discovered that they have a natural instinct to try and cross-pollinate Florans. The standard relationship-unit in Prismatis nowadays is a triad - two florans and a Vanessa. 21:50 < FacelessDude> what kind of magic they get? 21:50 < Evenstar> They can build things out of solid light! 21:50 < Andygal> sounds pretty? 21:50 < FacelessDude> like the lantern corps? 21:50 < Evenstar> (And they are nice but not very emotionally stable? See 'big on emotional expression.') 21:51 < Evenstar> Facelessdude: Sort of vaguely, except it /stays/ without you having to pay attention to it. 21:52 < Evenstar> Also hitting things with light is generally a bad way to use it? Like, you could drop heavy objects on people or make yourself a weapon but it is not so good at small-scale things. 21:52 < Evenstar> "hard light machine-gun" is not really a thing you can do with it. 21:52 < Evenstar> too many moving parts. 21:56 < Evenstar> Mostly they do really, really nice architecture. Also they can render down the magic into dye! Which is really nice in a world with not a lot of proper chemistry. 21:57 < Evenstar> Prismatis is the island of color - outsiders tend to find it a bit dazzling at first. 22:00 < FacelessDude> cool 22:00 < FacelessDude> the light objects can be destroyed or alteredw 22:00 < FacelessDude> ? 22:00 < FacelessDude> I am now picturing somone cutting blocks of light in light-bricks 22:00 < FacelessDude> very terraria 22:01 < Andygal> Pfffftha 22:01 < Evenstar> The light objects can be /added to/ but not /removed/. 22:01 < Evenstar> They sort of fade on their own over about a decade if you stop maintaining them? 22:01 < FacelessDude> Andygal know it is xD 22:02 < FacelessDude> Evenstar, that sounds like really bad for architecture 22:02 < Evenstar> But /Prismatis/. 22:02 < FacelessDude> unless maintaining them is easier than it sounds 22:02 < Evenstar> They noticeably lose color over time. 22:02 < Evenstar> So you'll know if a supporting beam is about to go. 22:02 < Evenstar> Then you just need someone with color to poke it. 22:02 < Evenstar> And /everybody/ can do that. 22:03 < FacelessDude> huh 22:03 < Evenstar> The real issue is that you can't demolish anything. 22:03 < FacelessDude> each emotion is a color? 22:03 < Evenstar> Save by waiting. 22:03 < Evenstar> Faceless: Vaguely. It depends on the individual Vanessa. 22:03 < FacelessDude> huh 22:03 < FacelessDude> and each color has the same effect? 22:03 < Evenstar> Yep! It's only a visual difference. 22:04 < Andygal> are the colours completely different for each person, or is there a specific range for each emotion? 22:05 < Evenstar> There is naturally some overlap, anger tends towards reds, sadness towards blues, etc, but the color is appropriate for the person who has it. 22:06 < Evenstar> So people with unusual color-emotion associations can accidentally signal, say, anger, when they're really feeling happy 22:06 < Evenstar> because they associate red with happiness 22:06 < Evenstar> It is not universal, merely stereotypical. 22:07 < FacelessDude> huh 22:07 < FacelessDude> what about people that are colorblind? 22:07 < FacelessDude> or maybe people with monocromatic magic? xD 22:07 < Evenstar> They only generate colors in the spectrum they can see! 22:07 < FacelessDude> It is possible to mix colors to get the right shade? 22:07 < Evenstar> Yes! 22:08 < Evenstar> People with monochromatic magic exist, rarely. 22:08 < Evenstar> They have issues of their own because they are confused occasionally with 'greywings' 22:08 <@Adelene> Oh hey Evenstar 22:08 <@Adelene> have you seen that one guy with the synesthesia prosthesis? 22:08 < Evenstar> Which is the opposite of the stigma that gets attached to overly-emotional people in our world? 22:08 < Evenstar> No! 22:09 <@Adelene> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil_Harbisson 22:09 < Evenstar> (But yes if you are a reserved person who is in control of your emotions and as a result your wings have very little color, you may be shamed for this in Prismatis.) 22:09 < Teceler> ... 22:10 <@Adelene> My brain /refuses completely/ to parse this guy as having a color prosthesis rather than a synesthesia one. Because lacking the latter is clearly a disability and lacking the former is... not? Idk, brain is weird. 22:10 < Evenstar> (There is an enclave of people like this, they are collectively called 'greywings', they choose not to associate with the culture of the main island) 22:11 < Evenstar> (Because it is not a good place for them.) 22:11 < FacelessDude> woah, that guy... just... what? 22:12 <@Adelene> There are videos of him around, I think he did a TED talk or something - been a while since I first found him, don't have any actual recs offhand. 22:12 < Evenstar> "Harbisson filed a complaint as physical aggression, as he considers the antenna to be a body part." As well he should given that it is surgically attached to his body 22:13 < Evenstar> I would be exceedingly annoyed if a police officer decided to take the fillings out of my mouth, for example. 22:13 < Teceler> ...yeah 22:13 < Evenstar> (I have also heard of a guy who has essentially implanted google glass) 22:14 < Evenstar> (The glasses are surgically screwed to his brow, IIRC) 22:14 <@Adelene> huh. 22:15 < Teceler> ...why? 22:15 < Evenstar> (I will look it up) 22:16 < Evenstar> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Mann 22:17 < Evenstar> (He invents these things for a living and is his own test subject, it appears.) 22:17 < FacelessDude> so... it is FOR SCIENCE 22:18 < Evenstar> FOR SCIENCE 22:18 < Andygal> I remember reading about a dude who implanted a small magnet in his finger. 22:19 < Evenstar> "He angrily grabbed my eyeglass, and tried to pull it off my head. The eyeglass is permanently attached and does not come off my skull without special tools." 22:19 < Teceler> ...ow 22:19 < Evenstar> (There seems to be a trend of people with implanted tech being assaulted.) 22:19 < Kel> (an internet friend and internet acquaintance of mine both have magnets in their pinkies) 22:20 < FacelessDude> Kel why? 22:20 < Kel> to feel magnetic fields 22:21 <@Adelene> I've considered doing the implanted magnet thing, but ultimately I don't think it'd be worth it. I do intend to get a magnetic ring one of these days, though, which gives about the same effect, just weaker, without the surgery. 22:21 <@Adelene> Also much less expensive. 22:22 < Andygal> heh. 22:22 < Evenstar> You may wish to read this: http://lesswrong.com/lw/mjs/magnetic_rings_the_most_mediocre_superpower_a/ 22:22 < Andygal> I think it would be cool, but yes, expensive. 22:24 <@Adelene> mmhmm 22:25 <@Adelene> Also, this thing is a thing that exists. http://sensebridge.net/projects/northpaw/ 22:26 < Kel> oooh. that sounds /useful/ 22:27 < Kel> directions are hard 22:27 <@Adelene> I'm good enough at maps that I think it'd just be a novelty, but it's still interesting. 22:27 < FacelessDude> I should sleep, it is a thing that I should do 22:28 < FacelessDude> \o 22:28 < Teceler> sleep well, Faceless 22:28 <@Adelene> Sleep well. 22:28 < Andygal> I am not great with maps. I can find north in my city because north is towards the mountains. 22:29 < Andygal> it does sound interesting. 22:30 -!- FacelessDude has quit 23:00 -!- Evenstar has quit 23:02 < Teceler> kel: tag 23:02 < Kel> eee tag 23:02 < Andygal> eeeeee 23:03 <@Adelene> \o/ 23:03 < Teceler> (just a few more tags until the next set of (metaphorical) explosions! :P) 23:03 <@Adelene> ooo. 23:04 < Teceler> pft 23:04 < Andygal> eeeeee 23:19 < Kel> Teceler: tag 23:19 < Kel> and I am sleep 23:20 < Kel> oh Morse 23:20 < Teceler> yay tag 23:20 < Teceler> sleep well--oh 23:21 < Kel> fixed 23:21 -!- Kel is now known as Kelsleep 23:21 < Teceler> sleep well 23:21 < Kelsleep> thank you 23:21 < Kelsleep> you too 23:21 < Teceler> thanks :) 23:22 < Andygal> sleep well! 23:28 -!- Kelsleep has quit 23:42 -!- Sonata has joined #backstage 23:42 -!- mode/#backstage [+o Sonata] by ChanServ --- Day changed Sun Sep 06 2015 00:03 -!- Sonata has quit 00:03 < Teceler> going to bed now 00:03 < Andygal> goodnight! 00:04 < Teceler> good night 00:08 -!- Teceler is now known as Teceler|Asleep 00:10 -!- MTC has joined #backstage 00:25 -!- linkhyrule5 has joined #backstage 00:47 -!- Sky has quit
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Post by Mother Starlight on Sept 7, 2015 17:31:23 GMT
03:22 -!- Verdancy|Away has quit 04:27 -!- linkhyrule5 has quit 07:24 -!- linkhyrule5 has joined #backstage 07:35 -!- linkhyrule5 has quit 08:57 -!- Eva has joined #backstage 08:57 < Eva> morning all 08:57 -!- Eva is now known as Evenstar 09:04 -!- Andygal has quit 09:04 -!- Kelsewhere has joined #backstage 09:13 -!- Evenstar has quit 09:22 -!- NoFaceGretchen has joined #backstage 09:22 < NoFaceGretchen> Hi! 09:22 < NoFaceGretchen> So fetch to everyone o/ 09:40 -!- Evenstar has joined #backstage 09:40 < Evenstar> (hello again <3) 09:44 < NoFaceGretchen> hi o/ 09:44 -!- NoFaceGretchen is now known as FacelessLondoner 09:44 < FacelessLondoner> how are things? 09:47 < Evenstar> Good! 09:47 * Evenstar is threading more boxed-cat-demon-Joker 09:48 < FacelessLondoner> ooh 09:48 < FacelessLondoner> link? 09:48 < Evenstar> http://glowfic.dreamwidth.org/12259.html 09:52 < FacelessLondoner> What you have to do to get one of those? 09:52 -!- Teceler|Asleep is now known as Teceler 09:52 * Evenstar is sending boxed cats to any who request them! 09:52 -!- Kelsewhere is now known as Kel 09:53 < Kel> would it maybe be interesting/fun to send one to Aspen? 09:53 < Teceler> hello Kel 09:53 < Kel> Hi Teceler! 09:53 < FacelessLondoner> evenstar, I was talking in game, but now you got me thinking in threading that >.> 09:53 < Teceler> FacelessLondoner: ...do you want a boxed cat? 09:53 < Kel> it is a random opportunity, I think 09:54 * Kel is too softhearted to do anything but release them 09:54 < FacelessLondoner> Tec, I had opened a box with one already, but forgot how it works 09:54 < FacelessLondoner> Kel, you aren' the only one 09:54 < Kel> I wish they didn't /wound/ me, but it is understandable 09:56 < Teceler> FacelessLondoner: I meant a nearly-unwrapped-cat 09:56 < Evenstar> (Also occasionally people send Sorrow-Spiders in the mail) 09:56 < FacelessLondoner> o.o 09:56 < Evenstar> (These people are terrible) 09:56 < FacelessLondoner> why? 09:56 < Teceler> actually /most/ of them are sorrow-spiders XD 09:56 < FacelessLondoner> WHY? 09:56 < Teceler> at least most that the PCs get 09:56 * Teceler shrugs 09:57 < Kel> I am reminded of a Shippable Brownies conversation 09:58 < Kel> about whether we would be liable if someone shipped someone else spiders 09:58 < FacelessLondoner> anyway, got side-tracke, I was going to suggest to evenstar the idea of sending boxed-cat to Tama, the cat familiar, station master and occasional psychocomp 09:58 < Teceler> pft 09:58 < Kel> and how to avoid that happening 10:01 < FacelessLondoner> maybe just not sedding spiders? 10:01 < Kel> no like 10:01 < FacelessLondoner> but not even the nightvale creators can guarante that, so... 10:01 < Kel> shippable brownies was an idea for sending internet people mail 10:01 < Kel> so that they don't have to give out their real address 10:02 < Kel> but can still get like. homemade shrinkydink art or whatever from other internet people 10:02 < Kel> and it would be wrong for a postal service to break open and inspect packages 10:03 < Kel> I think. anyway, everyone involved stopped caring enough to talk about it, so it has been abandoned 10:03 < FacelessLondoner> ah, too sad :( 10:16 < Evenstar> Facelesslondoner: I would be really amused to see Tama and Sometimes chatting 10:17 < Evenstar> Kel: That is a really interesting idea! 10:18 < Evenstar> At least within the US there is an option for this for Amazon I think? Amazon lockers or something? 10:18 < Kel> huh 10:18 < Kel> neat 10:18 < Evenstar> We don't get those up here in Canada though. :I 10:18 < Kel> Part of the idea was for home-made things also though 10:18 < Kel> like if I made a thing and wanted to send it to an internet friend but they didn't want to give their address away 10:18 < Evenstar> Yeah. 10:19 < FacelessLondoner> Evenstar, that sounds great 10:19 < Evenstar> It would be useful to have some form of anonymized postbox system that didn't cost an arm and a leg like P.O. boxes. 10:19 < FacelessLondoner> Sometimes should meet Cricket, I am certain they will get along 10:19 < Evenstar> They do seem to have similar attitudes regarding Cathood :P 10:20 < Kel> (going for a thing today, have to go get ready) 10:20 -!- Kel is now known as Kelsewhere 10:20 < Teceler> (okay) 10:21 < FacelessLondoner> good luck with the thing kel o/ 10:21 < Teceler> Evenstar: if you want to send Niryl and Lizzie Sometimes (via normal mail or otherwise) sometime that might be interesting 10:21 < Teceler> yes that 10:22 < FacelessLondoner> I sometimes wonder if I should make Tama more cat-like 10:22 < Evenstar> Teceler: I may! 10:22 < Evenstar> Faceless: How so? 10:23 < FacelessLondoner> she is devoted to her job in a very un-cat-like manner? 10:25 < Evenstar> All I can say is that 'un-cat-like manner' makes about as much sense to me as 'un-human-like manner' 10:25 < Teceler> pffft 10:25 < FacelessLondoner> hey is fallen london up to you guys? 10:26 < Teceler> I was just observing it not wanting to load :( 10:27 < FacelessLondoner> urgh 10:31 < FacelessLondoner> I don't suppose that kappa is interested in a sandbox that is nothing but my OCs petting and hugging the most woobie Jokers, right? 10:39 < Evenstar> (hee) 10:39 < FacelessLondoner> aianon and brilliance give me feels :( 10:44 < FacelessLondoner> FL is still down? 10:44 < Teceler> FacelessLondoner: it's up-ish for me! 10:44 < Teceler> um 10:45 < Teceler> at least for a moment there it was 10:58 < FacelessLondoner> to me it looks up but slow 10:59 < Teceler> it seems to be wobbling in and out some 11:31 -!- Evenstar has quit 11:35 < FacelessLondoner> You people know nick from cloudbank? 11:35 < Teceler> what about him? 11:35 < FacelessLondoner> Is there a "Spaceship NIck"? that I am not aware of? 11:36 < Teceler> yeah, in a sandbox with Rewind-Bell 11:36 < Teceler> (I am blanking on her actual nickname) 11:36 < FacelessLondoner> Gem 11:37 < Teceler> yes 11:44 < FacelessLondoner> Something about Madoka sort of turns me away you know? 11:45 < Teceler> [hug if wanted?] 11:46 < FacelessLondoner> I apreciate the sentment, but it isn't /that/ bad. 11:46 < FacelessLondoner> I meant more in the sense of "is not my thing" you know? 11:48 < FacelessLondoner> anyway, gonna take a nap ttyl o/ 11:48 < Teceler> sleep well 11:48 -!- FacelessLondoner has quit 12:41 -!- Sky has joined #backstage 12:56 -!- Evenstar has joined #backstage 12:56 < Evenstar> (Hi again all!) 12:57 < Teceler> hello again Evenstar, hello Sky 13:06 <@Adelene> o/ 13:18 -!- FacelessLondoner has joined #backstage 13:18 < FacelessLondoner> hi? 13:18 < Teceler> hello 13:20 <@Adelene> cutes are generating dorbs again over in sendingscience. ^^ 13:20 < Teceler> how do they manage to be so adorable 13:20 < Teceler> how 13:20 <@Adelene> *giggle* 13:26 < Evenstar> o/ 13:28 <@Adelene> o/ 13:30 < Evenstar> (Adelene, do you have more music spoons?) 13:31 <@Adelene> Not especially. 13:31 < Evenstar> (Alright.) 13:31 <@Adelene> Those take a while to rebuild even under the best of circumstances. 13:32 < FacelessLondoner> music spoons? 13:32 < Evenstar> [hugs iff wanted] 13:32 <@Adelene> I have auditory processing issues, listening to too much noise of any kind is painful. 13:32 < Evenstar> :( 13:33 < Evenstar> [sends foofy earmuffs] 13:33 <@Adelene> *shrug* I mean, if I'm asking for music recs it's because I have the capacity to handle that at the moment, it's not /always/ painful. 13:34 * FacelessLondoner offers hugs as well 13:35 * Teceler contributes to the potential hugpile 13:36 <@Adelene> you guys ^^ 14:11 < FacelessLondoner> so what you guys are up to? 14:12 < Teceler> sendingscience 14:16 * Evenstar continues to thread demoncatbox 14:17 * Teceler read that as 'demonstration' initally XD 14:17 < FacelessLondoner> I read that as the cat being part demon 14:17 < FacelessLondoner> or being a demon variant of cat, or something 14:19 <@Adelene> I am awful and this is hilarious. http://into-the-weeds.tumblr.com/post/128490172499/mere-dyth-weloveshortvideos-and-you-thought 14:20 < Teceler> oh, Evenstar, re: your theory about boxed cats: the Starveling Cat really does not like being boxed 14:22 < Evenstar> Yep. 14:22 < Teceler> which, on one hand, it's /the Starveling Cat/ XD 14:22 < Teceler> on the other hand, that is a thing 14:23 < FacelessLondoner> What is up with the starveling cat? 14:23 < Evenstar> Yes. It is not exactly typical. 14:23 < Evenstar> The Starveling Cat! 14:23 < FacelessLondoner> I vaguely remember about being dreaded and hugry 14:23 < Teceler> The Starveling Cat! 14:23 < Evenstar> The Starveling Cat! 14:23 < Teceler> pfft 14:23 < Evenstar> Jumped down the well for a good long chat! 14:23 < Teceler> The Starveling Cat! 14:23 < Teceler> They put it in a box! It didn't like that! 14:24 < FacelessLondoner> The Starveling Cat! 14:24 * FacelessLondoner doesnt want to be left out 14:25 * Teceler advises hitting 'tell me something else' on your sidebar until you get a Starveling Cat rhyme, if you want to join in XD 14:25 < Teceler> The Starveling Cat! 14:26 < Teceler> look what it did to your nice new hat! 14:29 < Evenstar> The Starveling Cat! The Starveling Cat! Why does it look at us like that? 14:29 < Teceler> The Starveling Kitty! The Starveling Kitty! Ruled the roofs of five stolen cities! 14:29 < FacelessLondoner> You know something, they need to make a tabletop rpg for FL, like, yesterday 14:29 < FacelessLondoner> they should use time travelling 14:29 < Teceler> hm? 14:30 < FacelessLondoner> to get it done yesterday 14:30 < Teceler> ...now I am trying to remember if that was one of the options on the thing that resulted in Sunless Sea 14:31 < FacelessLondoner> it was a kickstarter? 14:31 < Teceler> yes but 14:31 < Teceler> before that there was a poll-thing 14:36 < FacelessLondoner> I see, what are the other "candidates"° 14:36 < FacelessLondoner> ? 14:36 < Teceler> don't remember, is problem 14:36 < Teceler> I think one was a novella? 14:38 < FacelessLondoner> A card game would fit even if it would tank hard 14:39 < FacelessLondoner> unless it was a online card game? 14:42 < Evenstar> Personally I think Fate would work well as a system for Fallen London 14:42 < Teceler> ...pfft 14:42 < Teceler> there's even a pun 14:42 < Evenstar> (yep) 14:42 < FacelessLondoner> Fate? 14:42 < Evenstar> http://www.faterpg.com/ 14:42 < Evenstar> Fate. 14:43 < FacelessLondoner> well, now I feel like an idiot 14:43 < FacelessLondoner> a friend is trying to set up 14:44 < FacelessLondoner> a game with that system 14:44 < FacelessLondoner> the setting has space magic and runs on arystetolian physics and everything is magical 14:45 < Evenstar> So... Spelljammer? 14:45 < FacelessLondoner> not quite, but not that different? I guess at least 14:47 < FacelessLondoner> my character is from a space station controlled by a apocalyptical cult that was intent on "cleasing" (through killing people) the world an replacing the dead with a magically modified race 14:48 < FacelessLondoner> but they are stopped, so now the space station is under the control of the person that betrayed the cult 14:49 < FacelessLondoner> What is the deal with Spelljammer besides D&D IN SPACE! 14:55 < Evenstar> It's D&D IN SPACE! 14:55 < Evenstar> With literal Crystal Spheres for planets 14:55 < Evenstar> You have to have a Spelljammer to be able to get through the surface of a Crystal Sphere 14:56 < Evenstar> and then you can go fly around the universe with all its little sphere-contained worlds 15:02 -!- MTC has quit 15:39 -!- linkhyrule5 has joined #backstage 15:43 -!- Kelsewhere has quit 15:56 < FacelessLondoner> Does gravity work "normally" in Spelljammer? 16:03 -!- Andygal has joined #backstage 16:16 < FacelessLondoner> hi andygal 16:16 < Andygal> Hey 16:17 -!- Butcher has joined #backstage 16:36 < Butcher> Started Lady Death's second plot. 16:36 < Andygal> Hmm? 16:36 < Butcher> http://manyworlds.boards.net/thread/126/help-wanted-re-mother-stars 16:52 -!- Sonata has joined #backstage 16:52 -!- mode/#backstage [+o Sonata] by ChanServ 17:13 < FacelessLondoner> huh, has Lady Death got her blessing sorted? 17:14 < Evenstar> tag, Sonata 17:18 <@Sonata> tag, Evenstar 17:21 < Butcher> ? 17:21 < Butcher> blessing sorted? 17:27 -!- Kelsewhere has joined #backstage 17:29 < FacelessLondoner> Butcher, Quinn's birth blessing, it allows you to use blessings as a divination 17:29 < FacelessLondoner> http://manyworlds.boards.net/thread/54/backstage-condensed-character-setting-properties?page=2 17:29 < FacelessLondoner> bottom of the page 17:32 -!- Teceler is now known as Teceler|Away 17:33 < Evenstar> tag, Sonata 17:33 < Evenstar> (Skipping some busywork 'puzzles' here) 17:34 < FacelessLondoner> bustwork? 17:41 <@Sonata> tag, Evenstar 17:42 < Butcher> oh, those. Nah, not yet, maybe just before trying the ritual again. 17:43 < Evenstar> Tag, Evenstar 17:43 < Evenstar> Er, Sonata 17:43 < Evenstar> >.> 17:44 <@Sonata> haha 17:47 <@Sonata> tag, Evenstar 17:48 -!- Kelsewhere is now known as Kel 17:48 < Kel> neighbor toddler is playing with bubbles! 17:49 <@Adelene> aw ^^ 17:49 < Andygal> awwww 17:49 < Evenstar> tag, Sonata 17:52 <@Sonata> tag, Evenstar 18:01 -!- Adelene has quit 18:02 -!- Adelene has joined #backstage 18:02 -!- mode/#backstage [+o Adelene] by ChanServ 18:02 -!- Butcher has quit 18:09 < Kel> I guess something should probably be done about the mother of the stars? or maybe said in response? 18:09 < Kel> but it doesn't seem like an actually urgent thing and possibly a really unlikely thing 18:14 -!- Teceler|Away is now known as Teceler 18:14 < Kel> wb! 18:14 < Teceler> thanks 18:15 < Andygal> wb! 18:15 < Kel> (anyway, none of my current characters who are interacting with the forum are likely to have anything to say about it) 18:15 < Kel> *neither 18:15 < Kel> er 18:15 < Kel> hm 18:15 < Kel> actually I guess *none 18:18 < Teceler> Everstar, something about personal protection got mentioned in demoncatbox thread. what does the OTC sell in that area, other than what we've seen? 18:25 < Kel> (... why are so many Pearl cosplay advice videos just someone taping an egg to their forehead???) 18:27 < FacelessLondoner> Hey, is there a specific term for sandboxes that are like... re-usable? like "X summons relevation"? 18:28 < Andygal> Noooot really Faceless. 18:28 < Andygal> as far as I know. 18:43 < Evenstar> tag, Sonata 18:43 < Teceler> kel: tag 18:45 < Kel> :D 18:45 < Evenstar> Teceler: Anything that you've seen as a personal protection wish in effulgence (regeneration, even torching). Anything that would be reasonable as a D&D spell, including 'Contingency'. Eclipse medical tech. Etc. 18:45 < Evenstar> OTC will sell you whatever you want, but not necessarily at the price you would like to pay. 18:45 < Teceler> pfft 18:46 <@Sonata> tag, Evenstar 18:46 < Kel> is anyone actually planning to do anything about the maybe-apocalypse in Equestria? 18:46 < Kel> *for their characters to do 18:47 < Andygal> My characters are unlikely to be able to help with that particular problem. 18:47 * Teceler glances at her characters current statuses 18:47 * Andygal pokes linkhyrule5 18:48 < Kel> ME is being ChibE right now I think? 18:49 < Evenstar> tag, Sonata 18:49 < FacelessLondoner> My only forum characters don't have much ability to help directly 18:49 < FacelessLondoner> albeit Tama has "get out of death for free" cards 18:49 < FacelessLondoner> 8 of them 18:50 <@Adelene> Kappa has been informed. 18:50 < Evenstar> I feel like Lioncourt has a bone to pick with evil moon deities in general. 18:50 <@Adelene> heh. 18:50 < Kel> ... that is probably not enough for an apocalypse? 18:50 < Kel> why moon deities specifically? 18:50 -!- kappabeta has joined #backstage 18:51 -!- mode/#backstage [+o kappabeta] by ChanServ 18:51 < FacelessLondoner> huh 18:51 < Kel> hi kappa! 18:51 < FacelessLondoner> Where is miles? 18:51 < FacelessLondoner> oh, hi Kappa o/ 18:51 < FacelessLondoner> speak of the devil 18:51 <@kappabeta> i heard something about an apocalypse 18:51 * Adelene approves of a Cordelia/Lioncourt teamup here. <3 18:51 < Kel> most apocalypses involve more than 8 people 18:51 < FacelessLondoner> or the author of the devil 18:51 < Kel> a /potential/ apocalypse 18:51 < Kel> in Lady of Death's most recent post 18:51 < Kel> not sure how big a deal it /actually/ is 18:51 < FacelessLondoner> it is a ponycalypse! 18:52 < Evenstar> (Lioncourt will do this even when the threat is an adorable technicolor pony that is half her height) 18:52 < Kel> (it seems like a thing that /might/ be important and it is possible I am underestimating how important it is due to vague personal-level irritation with LoD) 18:53 < Evenstar> (She kinda learned the thing about appearances) 18:53 < Evenstar> (What with looking twelveish and all.) 18:53 < Kel> ohh. I substituted/misread Lioncourt as Eva somehow 18:53 < Kel> yeah 18:54 <@Sonata> tag, Evenstar 18:54 < Andygal> well it could be a big deal if/when the evil goddess gets loose. 18:57 < Kel> but I can't actually tell how likely that is 18:57 < Kel> and I am maybe underestimating that as a result of the character? 18:57 < Andygal> well in the show there was an inevitable prophecy thing about it so... 18:58 < Kel> but this setting is different in a lot of ways, I think? 18:59 < Evenstar> tag, Sonata 19:10 -!- Kel is now known as Kelsupper 19:11 <@kappabeta> did somebody say something about a cordelia/lioncourt teamup 19:12 < Evenstar> Yes, someone die 19:12 < Evenstar> *did 19:12 < Evenstar> (Though 'die' seems amusingly appropriate) 19:13 < Evenstar> to reseal the almighty Princess Luna before she escapes (or possibly after) 19:13 <@kappabeta> lioncourt+cordelia seems like a pretty legit solution here 19:13 * Adelene continues to approve ^^ 19:14 < Andygal> <3 19:18 <@Sonata> tag, Evenstar 19:20 < Evenstar> tag, Sonata 19:23 <@Sonata> tag, Evenstar 19:24 < Evenstar> tag, Sonata 19:24 < Evenstar> (Did you really expect 'shake the box' to be the answer? :P) 19:27 <@Sonata> (no, but I would have tried it if I was really there) 19:27 <@Sonata> tag, Evenstar 19:28 < Evenstar> (afk an hour or so) 19:33 < Evenstar> (Afk was shorter than expecteD) 19:33 < Evenstar> (>.>) 19:34 <@Sonata> heh 19:34 < Evenstar> Tag, Sonata 19:35 <@Sonata> How big is the knight? 19:36 <@Sonata> like, if i tried to add the screwdriver as the missing weapon, would the screwdriver be twice as long as the knight is tall? or plausible size for a longsword? 19:38 < Evenstar> It would be much larger than the knight, yes. 19:39 <@Sonata> tag, Evenstar 19:40 < Evenstar> tag, Sonata 20:00 <@Sonata> tag, Evenstar 20:14 <@Adelene> Hey, anybody wanna help us brainstorm? 20:15 < Andygal> what are you brainstorming? 20:16 <@Adelene> We have two issues right now - one is that it's been, like, 10-12ish hours subjective time since Lurker got to Eclipse, which seems like longer than it should have gone without there being requests to do things, and it'd be good to have a reason why. (I think the current top contender is 'massive fight going on behind the scenes about what to ask for first', but Firewall is usually more on the ball than that.) 20:17 < Teceler> the other is what the priorites actually are 20:17 <@Adelene> Second issue is, what things do they ask for first - it'd be nice to see some kind of actual coherent plan, even, but that's not really Tec's or my forte, it seems like. 20:17 < Teceler> (Adelene, how long do you think it's been since they discussed what the things did?) 20:18 <@Adelene> ~6 hours ish, I think. 20:18 < Teceler> that's a slightly more reasonable timeframe 20:18 <@Adelene> But they did have /some/ info before she even got there, too. 20:18 < Andygal> Firewall is also hugely distracted by assorted fire. 20:18 < Teceler> like, if they were busy, and the answers threw whatever they were planning of 20:18 < Evenstar> Sonata: Tag 20:19 <@Adelene> *nod* 20:19 -!- Sonata has quit 20:19 <@Adelene> hm 20:20 < Teceler> hm 20:20 < Teceler> if there's a massive fight going on behind the scenes it might actually be about security/secrecy 20:20 <@Adelene> one plan we talked about a little back a while ago was MPAing sending stones to hard-to-contact people; that doesn't seem like a /high/ priority, but it is a coherent plan and might be doable without tk minting with a little more effort. 20:21 <@Adelene> (also, yes, that does seem plausible.) 20:21 <@Adelene> hmmm 20:21 <@Adelene> actualy, if there /is/ a major fight about secrecy, how does it coming out that Lurker intends to stick around ping that? 20:21 < Teceler> hmm 20:22 < Andygal> problem is then you have to avoid "they MPA a stone to Thorn and DL." Unless you already have a way to avoid that. 20:22 < Teceler> Andygal: they're unreachable 20:22 <@Adelene> Thorn and DL aren't targetable because infoward. 20:22 < Teceler> that, yes 20:22 < Andygal> Ah OK. 20:22 < Teceler> same reason no one's gated them out 20:23 <@Adelene> I think Miles and/or Cordelia tried that offscreen, like, first thing, probably. 20:23 <@Adelene> (It is kind of weird that DL isn't targetable, though, given Esthfora.) 20:24 <@Adelene> (TITANs probably paid through the nose in mana, on that one.) 20:24 < Teceler> given Esthfora? 20:25 <@Adelene> I think being targeted counts as mind-affected? At least for something like Planar Message which is the obvious first thing to try. 20:26 < Teceler> well, Planar Message is only one-way anyway? 20:26 <@Adelene> Yeah, but you still get feedback on whether the message went through, so it tells you whether you can target that person. 20:26 < Teceler> ah 20:28 < Teceler> I'm not still not sure how DL being Esthfora'd would make it harder to make him untargetable, though? 20:28 <@Adelene> Stops the infoward from affecting him in that particular way. 20:29 <@kappabeta> hm. 20:29 < Teceler> ...I'm not sure it even works in that way? 20:29 <@kappabeta> I think we can probably declare that for plot-non-breaking reasons it doesn't. 20:29 < Teceler> pfft 20:29 < Teceler> I mean 20:30 < Teceler> if Planar Message went through and nothing else did that probably wouldn't be plot-breaking? but if other stuff does, um, yeah 20:30 <@kappabeta> if *anything* goes through, this affords an opportunity for our characters to decide they are smarter than we are 20:30 < Teceler> ha 20:30 < Teceler> yeah 20:31 <@Adelene> It could be that Planar Message does and most things don't, but if Planar Message /doesn't/ then nothing else will, I'm pretty sure, and in that case they'll give up, which is what we wanted anyway. 20:31 < Teceler> yeah, that fits with observed stuff best 20:31 < Teceler> (although I'd be surprised if they /didn't/ try some other stuff before giving up) 20:32 <@Adelene> I mean, yeah, but there's not that point of light to hang hope off of, so they probably didn't try much. 20:32 * Teceler nods. 20:32 <@Adelene> At least not Dungeon spells wise. 20:33 <@Adelene> Anyway - how /does/ it coming out that Lurker wants to stay affect the hypothetical secrecy debate? 20:33 <@Adelene> Because that looks like an interesting and coherent line of plot, to me. 20:33 < Teceler> but, like, I think someone who was unconscious would be un-planar-messagable (unless it woke them up) but gate-to-able 20:33 < Teceler> hm 20:34 * Teceler pokes at. 20:34 < Teceler> ...not sure I have enough brain to simulate Firewall for that, either 20:35 < Teceler> *on that 20:35 <@Adelene> *nod* 20:35 <@Adelene> hm 20:36 <@Adelene> A thing that /could/ happen, there, is, like, someone other than Lena coming by to size her up, related to that? 20:37 <@Adelene> *goes to consult wiki* 20:47 <@Adelene> Factions: 20:47 <@Adelene> Backups: Probably going 'ooooo', especially at Minor Planar Ally and Trap the Soul, but limited interest in her individually, I think. 20:47 <@Adelene> Conservatives: Shrieking. Loudly. 20:47 <@Adelene> Pragmatists: Also going 'ooooo'. Likely to be especially interested in her staying, I think. There's lots to learn from her, in several different senses. 20:47 <@Adelene> Mavericks: Probably mostly staying out of it? She has cool toys but they don't know anything about her politics yet, and that matters. 20:47 <@Adelene> Structuralists: Not shrieking, exactly, but they're for making Firewall public, and Lurker seems like a bit of a liability there. 20:50 < Teceler> why precisely is she a liability there? 20:51 <@Adelene> Firewall is already seen as a bit of a crackpot org, where it's known at all; trying to convince people they have actual magic and contact with people from other dimensions seems unlikely to help with this. 20:51 < Teceler> pft 20:51 < Teceler> on one hand, point 20:52 < Teceler> on the other hand, alethics are already a thing, adding another kind of magic -- that can also be demonstrated -- isn't going to make that much worse XD 20:52 <@Adelene> true. 20:52 < Teceler> well 20:52 < Teceler> several more kinds of magic 20:52 < Teceler> XD 20:52 <@Adelene> heh. 20:52 <@Adelene> yes. ^^ 20:53 <@Adelene> On the other hand, alethics can sort of be passed off as the same kind of thing as asyncs? And Lurker, uh... not so much, that. 20:53 < Teceler> pft 20:53 < Teceler> most people dont' think asyncs are a thing either 20:53 <@Adelene> True. 20:54 <@Adelene> Anyway, someone from the pragmatist side coming and asking some questions to try to undermine the conservatives' arguments does seem like a thing that might happen. 20:54 < Andygal> and some of the people who do know about asyncs might find that less reassuring then interdemensional shenanigans. 20:55 < Andygal> * than 20:55 < Teceler> Andygal: pffffffft 20:55 < Teceler> Adelene: yes but then I have to /write/ them :P 20:56 <@Adelene> Someone else could? 20:56 < Andygal> is anyone else as familar with the setting? 20:58 <@Adelene> I'm not sure how familiar they actually need to be, it might be possible to get by with an overview and reading a couple wiki pages. 21:02 <@Adelene> (On the other hand nobody seems to be offering, so.) 21:13 <@Adelene> hmm. 21:13 <@Adelene> I think what happens when it comes out that Lurker wants to stay is that the conservatives shriek even louder but the pragmatists overrule them, which they hadn't been doing before. 21:14 < Teceler> hm? 21:14 <@Adelene> Like, the pragmatists go 'there is /so much/ we can learn, here, if she's going to stay; yeah, we definitely want to do that, deal with it'. 21:15 < Teceler> I'm not sure that's a thing that can happen? 21:15 <@Adelene> In what sense? 21:15 < Teceler> unless they get another faction on board too 21:16 <@Adelene> The backups do look pretty on board to start with, to me. 21:16 * Teceler nods. 21:16 < Teceler> (the backups are also probably interested in the whole multiverse thing XD) 21:16 <@Adelene> Especially if they notice the possibility of storing backups on other worlds, and work out that she might be diplomatically helpful to that. 21:16 <@Adelene> heh ^^ 21:16 < Teceler> timing! 21:16 <@Adelene> ^^ 21:16 < Teceler> yeah, they've probably noticed she's tangled up with World-Tree 21:17 -!- Evenstar has quit 21:18 <@Adelene> So, what I'm seeing is, Lena shows up eventually, talks to Lurker, works that out, passes the relevant bits along, and the behind-the-scenes shifts favorably to people actually working with her. 21:18 < Teceler> well, that already came out with Amadi, didn't it? 21:19 < Teceler> or do you mean something other than the bit about her wanting to stay? 21:19 <@Adelene> Kind of, but there's still the question of whether she's welcome to. 21:19 <@Adelene> Like, she /isn't/ interested in staying just for Firewall purposes, I think that was pretty clear. 21:20 * Teceler nods. 21:20 < Teceler> she has personal interests at play 21:21 < Teceler> the question is, are those what she says they are, which is what Lena gets sent to find out? 21:21 <@Adelene> Yep. 21:21 < Teceler> can probably work with that 21:22 < Teceler> in the meantime, what? 21:23 <@Adelene> Well, if they're gridlocked to the point where nothing's getting to Lurker at all, she unpacks and then probably starts working on invisibility cloaks or stickers. 21:23 * Teceler nods. 21:23 < Teceler> are they that gridlocked, hmm 21:30 -!- rockeye has joined #backstage 21:30 <@Adelene> o/ 21:30 < Teceler> hello 21:31 < FacelessLondoner> hi again Rockeye o/ 21:33 < Andygal> Hi rockeye 21:33 < FacelessLondoner> I will leave the computer for a bit, ttyl people 21:33 < FacelessLondoner> \o 21:34 < Teceler> good luck 21:34 < Andygal> later facelessdude 21:34 -!- FacelessLondoner has quit 21:42 < rockeye> a friend told me about MWF and ctrl-V this chatroom, but I am confused about why he pointed me here in particular. 21:43 < Andygal> well we also talk about glowfic in general on occasion. 21:43 < rockeye> well, I am a newish glowfic writer, do any of you write it? 21:43 < Andygal> kappa is here! Aestrix is sometimes here. 21:44 < linkhyrule5> ~Fou ki rae a precia reen~! 21:44 < Teceler> ...hello link 21:44 < Andygal> hi link. 21:44 * linkhyrule5 sometimes exists 21:44 <@kappabeta> link what the heck 21:44 <@kappabeta> hi rockeye 21:44 < linkhyrule5> :D 21:45 < rockeye> hi kappa 21:45 < linkhyrule5> (lyrics from EXEC_COSMOFLIPS) 21:45 < linkhyrule5> (is good song) 21:45 <@kappabeta> this is the OOC chat for the MWF, and the MWF community is composed primarily of glowficcers 21:45 < linkhyrule5> oh kappabeta 21:45 < Andygal> and people who read glowfic. I've never done any glowficcing outside of the MWF. 21:45 < linkhyrule5> did you ever flail at the UI more? 21:45 < linkhyrule5> for Floydian Lands? 21:46 < rockeye> explanations are desirable, and I thank you for that one. I wanted to find 'all_the_worlds_have' because I like the idea of the OTC 21:46 <@kappabeta> I never flailed at the UI any in the first place, you said it wasn't together enough for me to take a look and then never said otherwise 21:46 < linkhyrule5> That's Eva/Evenstar 21:46 <@kappabeta> evenstar! 21:46 < Teceler> rockeye: Evenstar is... not currently here 21:46 < linkhyrule5> kappabeta - pffff 21:46 < linkhyrule5> well then 21:46 < linkhyrule5> Uh 21:46 < linkhyrule5> Oops? 21:46 < Teceler> but the OTC is on the mwf 21:46 <@Adelene> So, Tec, /are/ they that gridlocked? 21:46 < linkhyrule5> It was ready to look at a good month ago >.> 21:46 < Teceler> ummmm 21:46 < linkhyrule5> want a git link/ 21:46 < Andygal> The OTC is very interesting! 21:46 <@kappabeta> sure, i'm about to go to bed though 21:47 < Andygal> Hopefully Evenstar will be around again sometime soon. 21:47 < linkhyrule5> mmkay 21:47 < linkhyrule5> I'll send it to you tomorro then 21:47 < linkhyrule5> assuming I have spoons/remember/the concept of ememory 21:47 < Andygal> I can remind if wanted, probably. I usually have enough spoons for that much. 21:48 < linkhyrule5> please do then~ 21:48 < linkhyrule5> thanks 21:48 < rockeye> is there a summary page for the OTC like kappa's for taieli? 21:48 < Teceler> moment 21:49 < Teceler> https://etherpad.net/p/oifilei 21:49 < Andygal> I don't think the etherpad has all the stuff about how the OTC actually works? Just the currencies. 21:49 < rockeye> close enough ty 21:49 < Teceler> it has /some/ stuff 21:56 < rockeye> According to the conversion rates available there, 1 Takkarash/day buys immortality 21:56 < rockeye> more than 21:56 < rockeye> I'd take that deal in a heartbeat 21:56 <@Adelene> Yep. 21:57 < Andygal> couple of characters have done that. 21:57 < Andygal> more or less. 21:57 < Teceler> well, on the longevity axis only, but yes 21:57 <@Adelene> There is actual supply/demand being modeled here, kind of? And selling lifespan is an obvious altrusitic move for people who can do so renewably, so that happens. 21:57 < linkhyrule5> ... isn't that roughly "step on a lego" 21:57 < linkhyrule5> level? 21:58 < rockeye> Make it part of the routine, 5 blows to the head every morning. 21:58 < Teceler> yeah, there are worlds with lifespan-generation magic 21:58 < Teceler> pft 21:58 < linkhyrule5> pffahhaha 21:58 < Andygal> Lizzie/betterliving is making a lot of potions of youth. 21:59 < Andygal> and plans to distribute them to various people. 21:59 < Andygal> because she is offended that other worlds do not get ghosts. 21:59 < Teceler> she's already minting a lot of Ka from that, too 22:00 < Teceler> (I believe 'crashing the Ka market' was in her plans XD) 22:00 < Andygal> Yes. 22:00 < Andygal> also linkhyrule's character plans to crash the Ka market. 22:00 < Andygal> with his eldritch god-man powers. 22:01 < Teceler> he's a bit distracted at the moment, though :P 22:01 < Andygal> Yes. Because lots of fire. 22:01 < Andygal> (metaphorical fire, mostly) 22:01 < rockeye> how does one make chron>? 22:01 <@Adelene> (Tec, I do actuall think it's pretty plausible that they are gridlocked, at this point. We're looking at several hours /subjective/, which sounds to me like only people local to Mars are relevant, and most of those are going to be conservatives per the wiki.) 22:02 < Teceler> by giving up 5.24 (I think?) seconds in the future that you will need 22:02 < Teceler> Adelene: Firewall has better comms now 22:02 <@Adelene> Ah. 22:02 <@Adelene> ok 22:02 < Teceler> at least, I assume they do 22:02 < Teceler> that would have been high priority XD 22:02 < rockeye> with 'time you need' ominously or vaguely defined? Like, you may be surprised by an ambush instead of detecting it in time? 22:03 <@Adelene> That /also/ sounds like they might plausibly be gridlocked, though more in a 'people are figuring out the new social with the new tech' sense. 22:03 < Teceler> or you may be slightly late for something 22:03 < Teceler> Adelene: pfffft 22:03 < Teceler> yeah 22:04 < Andygal> Or you may drop an expensive plate. 22:04 < Andygal> and fail to catch it in time. 22:04 < Teceler> mm, decent chance Tyche gets concerned around now if ze hasn't heard /anything/ and asks for an explanation 22:04 < Andygal> and there is no way to tell in advance where it will get you. 22:04 < Teceler> well 22:04 <@Adelene> *nodnod* 22:04 < Andygal> People don't tend to mint chron directly. 22:04 < Teceler> Andygal: usually you have enough time to redeem chron if it's a bad situation, iif 22:05 < Teceler> *iirc 22:05 < rockeye> or react slightly too late in a big competition, or miss a good deal by a couple of minutes. 22:05 < Andygal> well not minutes, unless you mint a lot of chron. 22:05 < Teceler> rockeye: It doesn't have to be seconds you need /for something important/, just /seconds you need/ 22:05 < Andygal> and if you mint a lot of chron, missing a good deal may be the least of your concerns. 22:06 < Teceler> people who mint chron and redeem it in bad situations are a thing that exists 22:07 < Teceler> ...I am actually kind of tempted to write one, now 22:07 < Teceler> no, brain 22:07 < rockeye> Could I give up time I would spend on important maintenance and then just do the maintenance later? 22:07 < Teceler> you can't target the time 22:07 < Teceler> well 22:08 < Teceler> you can mint in a situation when you need that time, iirc that usually works 22:09 <@kappabeta> i think i'll go to bed, goodnight friends 22:09 < rockeye> 'needing time' is a bit subjective 22:09 < Teceler> sleep well kappa 22:09 -!- kappabeta has left #backstage 22:10 < Teceler> rockeye: mhm. I think there's a degree to which it only matters if you care about not having the time? 22:10 < Teceler> but the degree doesn't? 22:10 < Teceler> I'm not sure, though 22:10 < Teceler> that's really a question for evenstar 22:13 < rockeye> And how much mental energy is a dyne? 22:13 < Teceler> iirc about an hour's worth. mental and physical 22:13 < rockeye> So about an hour musing over a difficult puzzle and carrying things around. 22:13 < Teceler> not nessecarily? 22:14 < Teceler> I feel like it probably is more used on harder things. not sure though 22:14 < rockeye> but something like that 22:14 < Andygal> definitely a question for Evenstar 22:14 < Teceler> these are good questions, though! 22:15 < Andygal> I think it has been established that glowficcers are often good at asking good questions. 22:15 < rockeye> I am being Nick and Nick is trying to trade up 22:15 < Teceler> XD 22:16 < Teceler> (that is a question for Evenstar :P) 22:18 < Teceler> brb 22:21 < Teceler> bk 22:21 < Teceler> you can also sell /things/ to the OTC 22:27 < rockeye> Nick wants Mercury Reaches, Ka, Combi-tool, Force Armor, spool of endless rope, Rod of freedom, swordbow, eternal car battery, Ancient Coin, and some Pneumicized hydroden to be suddenly released as emergency lift, and wonders what THINGS the OTC might want to buy. When do you think Eva will be on so I can badger her? 22:28 < Andygal> somewhat unpredictable. Maybe not until tomorrow though. 22:28 < Teceler> the general rule of thumb is 'if it exists, the OTC is interested in buying it' XD. a more relevant question might be how much they'll pay for it 22:29 < rockeye> Floatstone? It's rock that is mostly hydrogen. It floats with a lift ratio of 3:10 at 1 atm STP 22:37 -!- rockeye has quit 23:02 -!- FacelessLondoner has joined #backstage 23:03 < FacelessLondoner> hi again 23:03 < Teceler> hello again faceless 23:03 < Andygal> Hey 23:35 -!- Kelsupper has quit 23:36 -!- FacelessLondoner has quit 23:46 -!- Kel-tab has joined #backstage 23:52 < Kel-tab> (hi?) 23:52 < Teceler> hey 23:52 < Teceler> about to go sleep 23:53 < Kel-tab> ok sleep well then 23:53 < Teceler> ('about' as in 'in the next 5-10 minutes') 23:53 < Teceler> but thanks 23:53 < Kel-tab> ah ok 23:53 < Teceler> why are you still up? 23:53 < Kel-tab> couldn't sleep 23:53 < Teceler> ah 23:54 < Teceler> [hug] 23:54 < Kel-tab> Hug 23:55 < Kel-tab> then realized left for supper and didn't return because other things and hadn't seen people 23:55 < Teceler> assumed something had come up 23:56 < Andygal> (hug) 23:56 < Kel-tab> Hug 23:56 < Kel-tab> yeah sorry 23:57 < Teceler> ? 23:57 < Kel-tab> ?? 23:58 < Teceler> ??? 23:58 < Teceler> um. what are you apologizing for? 23:58 < Kel-tab> oh. disappear without explanation 23:58 < Teceler> it happens 23:59 < Andygal> Yeah. 23:59 < Andygal> I do that sometimes. 23:59 < Andygal> usually because I went to take a nap. --- Day changed Mon Sep 07 2015 00:00 < Teceler> heh 00:00 * Teceler contemplates her ability to sleep 00:10 < Teceler> right, going to go try to sleep now 00:11 -!- MTC has joined #backstage 00:11 < Kel-tab> Night 00:11 < Kel-tab> sleep well 00:11 < Teceler> thanks 00:11 < Teceler> you to 00:11 < Teceler> *too 00:12 < Teceler> good night all 00:12 -!- Teceler is now known as Teceler|Asleep 00:12 -!- Sonata has joined #backstage 00:12 -!- mode/#backstage [+o Sonata] by ChanServ 00:13 -!- Kel-tab has quit 00:13 < Andygal> goodnight Teceler 00:44 -!- Sonata has quit 01:37 < Xom> i am tempted to try to write antichamber glowfic 01:38 < Andygal> antechamber? 01:38 < Xom> no, antichamber, the puzzle videogame 01:39 < Xom> where reality changes when you look away and/or at it 01:39 < Xom> also non-euclidean geometry 01:39 < Andygal> that sounds kind of Materia-ish? 01:40 < Xom> also you can fall arbitrary distances without being harmed in any way other than your position changing 01:40 < Xom> which qualifies as harmful only insomuch as maybe you wanted to go somewhere other than down 01:42 < Xom> it's probably not an idea i can do anything with it's just been nagging me 01:44 < Xom> the scenario would be similar to the terraria ones, like 'what if *character* was stuck in antichamber how would they react to space being weird and/or the almost-patronizing signs everywhere' 01:53 -!- Sky has quit 01:54 < Xom> also, guns that shoot cubes 02:02 < Andygal> what 02:08 < Xom> there are guns, which pick up cubes and shoot them toward more convenient locations 02:09 < Andygal> Ok then. 02:09 < Xom> to help you solve puzzles 02:09 < Xom> some of the guns can do other things with cubes 02:09 < Xom> the cubes are very tiny 02:11 < Xom> at least compared to like, terraria's cubes
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Post by Mother Starlight on Sept 8, 2015 16:39:39 GMT
04:05 -!- linkhyrule5 has quit 06:07 -!- Butcher has joined #backstage 07:18 -!- linkhyrule5 has joined #backstage 07:46 -!- Andygal has quit 08:32 -!- linkhyrule5 has quit 08:45 -!- Kelsewhere has joined #backstage 08:53 -!- FacelessQuiggle has joined #backstage 08:59 < FacelessQuiggle> hello? 09:39 -!- Teceler|Asleep is now known as Teceler 09:40 < Teceler> A Name in Seven Secret Alphabets 09:41 < Teceler> "Your name is immortal in Horizon Glyphs." 09:42 -!- Adelene is now known as Workdelene 10:25 < FacelessQuiggle> ? 10:30 < Teceler> FacelessQuiggle: Watchful Tracker is out 10:30 < Teceler> (on FL) 10:43 < FacelessQuiggle> ah, I see 10:47 < FacelessQuiggle> where I you find that phrase about horizon glyphs? 10:47 < Teceler> that's Niryl's status on that tracker 10:48 < FacelessQuiggle> what options you took? I think I made a mistake because I decided to see the honey-addled detective 10:48 < Teceler> didn't get options, because Niryl is endgame 10:49 < Teceler> a mistake in what sense? 10:49 < FacelessQuiggle> I chose to observe and reason with him and it didn't pan out anything interesting 10:50 < Teceler> that just sets where you currently are, iirc? 10:52 < FacelessQuiggle> huh, ok 10:52 * Teceler fetches her alt 10:52 < FacelessQuiggle> my watchful/shadowy suddenly become watchful/shadowy/persuasive 10:53 < FacelessQuiggle> how did that happen? 10:53 < Teceler> hm? 10:54 < FacelessQuiggle> just a retorical question, I chatted a lot with the drunk spy, I just failed to realize the effect 10:54 < FacelessQuiggle> that would have in my persuasive 10:54 < Teceler> ah 10:55 < FacelessQuiggle> currenly it is the highest base stat, but watchful gets higher by adding gear bonus 10:57 < Teceler> ...oh, my alt didn't get the prompt because they haven't done the first thing yet XD 10:58 < Teceler> ...and we should probably move this to #Correspondence 11:17 -!- rockeye has joined #backstage 11:38 -!- rockeye has quit 12:11 -!- FacelessQuiggle has quit 12:26 -!- Sonata has joined #backstage 12:26 -!- mode/#backstage [+o Sonata] by ChanServ 13:01 -!- NoFaceSproing has joined #backstage 13:01 < NoFaceSproing> greeting o/ 13:01 < Teceler> wb 13:02 < NoFaceSproing> things! how are they? 13:02 < Teceler> thinking about making a chron-minter character, but I don't have much concept 13:02 < Teceler> also thinking about sendingscience 13:03 < NoFaceSproing> the chron-minter is the one with life? 13:03 < Teceler> ? 13:03 < NoFaceSproing> ? 13:04 < NoFaceSproing> that isn't about OTC? 13:04 < Teceler> I'm not sure what you mean by 'the one with life' 13:04 -!- Evenstar has joined #backstage 13:04 < Evenstar> Sonata: Tag 13:04 < NoFaceSproing> the one currency that involves giving your life 13:04 < Teceler> hello Evenstar! 13:04 < NoFaceSproing> hi Evenstar o/ 13:04 < Evenstar> Hi! 13:04 < Teceler> Faceless: no, that's Ka 13:04 < Evenstar> (I see I was summoned) 13:05 < NoFaceSproing> Ka? k.. 13:05 < NoFaceSproing> Evenstar inderectly so 13:05 < Teceler> Evenstar: we attempted a summoning last night, actually 13:05 < NoFaceSproing> do you wish to be unsummoned? 13:06 < Teceler> Evenstar: <Teceler> thinking about making a chron-minter character, but I don't have much concept 13:07 < Teceler> (that's just now, not last night, to clarify) 13:07 <@Sonata> Evenstar, I am very confused about why you were hinting at the tube 13:07 < Teceler> (but that's the context of the convo we were having when you showed up) 13:07 <@Sonata> the only other thing I can think of is trying to poke the gem with the tube 13:07 <@Sonata> but this is ruled out by the gem being attached to the knight 13:08 <@Sonata> and putting the tube over/engulfing the knight is just silly 13:08 < NoFaceSproing> huh, which currency is the most lucravite? i do have a setting where it is possible to generate "youth" 13:08 <@Sonata> depends on quantity 13:08 < Teceler> that yeah 13:08 <@Sonata> takkarash is probably the most /potentially/ lucrative 13:08 < Teceler> if you don't have a means of generating the others 13:08 <@Sonata> because there's no theoretical upper limit on how much you can mint in a given amount of time 13:09 <@Sonata> if you have lots of resources and are spoiled for options then you probably want to mint cernnuous 13:09 < Teceler> much practical upper limit though XD 13:10 <@Sonata> and the knight doesn't move, so i can't rotate it to bring the gem around to the front 13:11 < NoFaceSproing> gem? 13:11 < Teceler> chron have the highest conversation rate of any non-Cernnuous-based thing 13:11 < Teceler> and also don't have a theoretical upper limit, except in that the universe will conspire to kill you horribly XD 13:11 < Teceler> but that's practical 13:11 <@Sonata> gem/glass thing behind the knight in ahrotahn's puzzle thread 13:12 < NoFaceSproing> ah, sorry 13:16 < NoFaceSproing> Sorry for the tangent: how it is to gather half-a-dozen forum people for a a ritual that will last a few hours, temporarily lower their lifespam by five years, but that lifespan is likely to "heal" and stabilize to additional 10 years than before? 13:17 < Evenstar> Sonata: The tube /is/ relevant! It's just a bit sneaky. Think about it like the keys earlier. 13:17 < Teceler> Faceless: did your boxed cat actually contain a cat? 13:17 < NoFaceSproing> yup 13:17 < NoFaceSproing> how could you tec? 13:18 < Teceler> well then 13:18 < NoFaceSproing> animal cruelty is terrible 13:18 * Teceler pokes at Evenstar's theory 13:18 < Evenstar> Sonata: Specifically, what part of the tube might you miss when you examined it? 13:19 <@Sonata> tag, Evenstar 13:22 < Evenstar> tag, Sonata 13:25 <@Sonata> tag, Evenstar 13:29 < Evenstar> tag, Sonata 13:30 -!- Workdelene is now known as Adelene 13:34 <@Sonata> tag, Evenstar 13:34 <@Sonata> er, pause 13:35 <@Sonata> ok, retag 13:40 < Evenstar> tag, Sonata 13:41 -!- Adelene has quit 13:41 -!- Adelene has joined #backstage 13:41 -!- mode/#backstage [+o Adelene] by ChanServ 13:42 <@Sonata> tag, Evenstar 14:03 < Evenstar> tag, Sonata 14:04 -!- Sky has joined #backstage 14:06 <@Sonata> tag, Evenstar 14:11 < Evenstar> tag, Sonata 14:12 -!- Sonata has quit 14:20 -!- Andygal has joined #backstage 14:27 -!- Sonata has joined #backstage 14:27 -!- mode/#backstage [+o Sonata] by ChanServ 14:29 < Andygal> Hi 14:31 < Teceler> hello Andygal 14:31 < Andygal> sup? 14:40 < NoFaceSproing> sup? 14:40 -!- NoFaceSproing is now known as FacelessCurious 14:43 < Andygal> Not much 14:53 < FacelessCurious> "uncountless" is a word? 14:54 < Teceler> ...'countable'? 14:55 <@Sonata> it /looks/ like a mistake, dunno if it /is/ one 14:55 < Andygal> Yeah looks like a mistake to me. 15:02 < FacelessCurious> "thus saving uncountless lives. " 15:02 < Andygal> yeah looks like a typo 15:04 -!- MTC has quit 15:07 <@Sonata> tag, Evenstar 15:15 -!- linkhyrule5 has joined #backstage 15:17 < Teceler> hello link 15:17 < linkhyrule5> hi 15:25 < Andygal> Hi link 15:27 < FacelessCurious> Salutations link 15:47 < Evenstar> tag, Sonata 15:56 -!- Butcher has quit 15:59 <@Sonata> tag, Evenstar 16:02 < Evenstar> tag, Sonata 16:06 <@Sonata> tag, Evenstar 16:17 < Evenstar> tag, Sonata 16:18 <@Sonata> tag. Evenstar 16:21 < Evenstar> Tag, Sonata 16:23 <@Sonata> tag, Evenstar 16:29 < Evenstar> Tag, Sonata 16:33 -!- rockeye has joined #backstage 16:33 < rockeye> evenstar, is the OTC yours? 16:33 < Andygal> Yes. 16:33 < Andygal> Hi rockeye 16:33 < FacelessCurious> Hi Rockeye o/ 16:33 < Teceler> hello again rockeye 16:34 * Teceler goes to fetch the questions from last night 16:36 < rockeye> I'd like to do a thread where one or both of my characters encounter the OTC and the transactions that ensue. 16:37 <@Sonata> tag, Evenstar 16:38 < Teceler> I think the main question was the definition of 'time you need' for chron purposes 16:45 < Evenstar> tag, Sonata 16:48 < Evenstar> Teceler: I will get into this when I am not tagging two people already :P 16:48 < Teceler> fair enough 16:48 < rockeye> I would like to join those who who are tagging, the OTC is really interesting 16:49 < Andygal> I think Evenstar would like to finish at least one of her current threads before starting a new one. 16:50 <@Sonata> tag, Evenstar 16:53 -!- linkhyrule5 has quit 17:04 < Evenstar> Tag, Sonata 17:07 <@Sonata> tag, Evenstar 17:34 < Evenstar> rockeye: I am in favor of this thing but yeah probably not right now :P 17:41 < FacelessCurious> Can I have the turn after Rockeye? 17:46 < Evenstar> Tag, Sonata 17:46 < Evenstar> FacelessCurious: Maybe! University is starting again for me tomorrow. 17:47 < Evenstar> I am unsure what it will do to my activity levels. 17:47 < FacelessCurious> aw darn it 17:47 < FacelessCurious> (kidding) 17:48 < FacelessCurious> I actually don't have anything too elaborate to do with Sometimes besides "hang out with Tama" 17:49 <@Sonata> tag, Evenstar 17:56 < Evenstar> Sonata: this is another big one so there may be delays, just fyi 17:57 <@Sonata> <3 17:57 < Evenstar> (I want to make sure I get /everything/ Ahrotahn could reasonably discover by close examination.) 17:57 <@Sonata> thank you~ 18:03 < rockeye> sonata, can I get a link to the thread you're running? Sounds interesting. 18:03 <@Sonata> https://glowfic.dreamwidth.org/10051.html?thread=967747&posted=1#cmt969283 18:03 -!- Kelsewhere is now known as Kel 18:04 < Teceler> kel? 18:04 < Kel> hi 18:04 < Teceler> kel! 18:04 < Teceler> hello 18:04 < Kel> hi! 18:06 <@Sonata> halloa 18:08 < FacelessCurious> rockeye are you there? 18:08 < FacelessCurious> and hi kel! 18:09 < rockeye> yes 18:12 < FacelessCurious> up to glowin'? 18:12 -!- Sonata has quit 18:12 < rockeye> was, but the other guy is afk now 18:13 < FacelessCurious> hahaha 18:13 < FacelessCurious> I am the other guy, I sent you a message on google plus I don't think you got it 18:13 < Kel> (unlikely to want to do any glowfic, but especially non-sandbox for the nearish future) 18:14 < Kel> (question apparently not at me, nvm) 18:15 < Teceler> oh, Kel, Fallen London Watchful tracker is out 18:15 < Teceler> A Name Written in Seven Secret Alphabets 18:15 * Kel has not FLd for a while 18:15 < Kel> is it time-limited 18:15 < Kel> ? 18:16 < Teceler> no 18:16 < Teceler> I just thought you might want to know? 18:16 < Kel> thanks for letting me know! 18:16 < Teceler> (also FL is fairly good at not eating your time?) 18:18 < Kel> (yeah usually? I'd probably try to get enough enthusiasm to go do it if it was only for a specific set of days or something but otherwise I will probably just do it eventually and not now) 18:18 < Teceler> [hug] 18:18 < Kel> [hug] 18:27 -!- rockeye has quit 18:43 -!- Sonata has joined #backstage 18:43 -!- mode/#backstage [+o Sonata] by ChanServ 18:54 -!- kappabeta has joined #backstage 18:54 -!- mode/#backstage [+o kappabeta] by ChanServ 18:57 -!- Kel is now known as Kelsupper 19:11 -!- Sonata has quit 19:25 -!- Sonata has joined #backstage 19:25 -!- mode/#backstage [+o Sonata] by ChanServ 19:30 -!- linkhyrule5 has joined #backstage 19:36 <@Sonata> I don't even remember what Faceless's second word originally was before all the variations 19:37 <@kappabeta> it was something like TheFacelessDudeSecretlyLivingInYourComputer 19:38 <@Adelene> Sonata, we have a question about how Planar Ally distributes the things it sends. 19:38 < Teceler> Sonata, planar ally question for you. how do sent things get distributed given a large container 19:38 < Teceler> pfft timing 19:38 <@Adelene> we do that ^^ 19:38 <@Sonata> i'm not sure i understand the question, can you specific an example 19:38 <@Sonata> like, if you have a bottle of sand and send the sand but not the bottle? 19:38 <@kappabeta> Sender has truckful of zorkmids. Receiver has truck. 19:39 <@kappabeta> Receiver *is* truck. 19:39 < Teceler> I was about to say XD 19:39 <@Adelene> *giggle* 19:39 <@Sonata> stuff appears in receiver's inventory. if receiver is truck, then probably appears loaded into the truck in the obvious/natural way. 19:40 <@Adelene> hm 19:40 <@kappabeta> i am endlessly amused by "if receiver is truck" 19:40 <@Sonata> an important limitation is that it won't appear equipped/installed 19:40 <@kappabeta> <3 19:40 < Teceler> presumably it appears fast enough that the truck is still somewhat unhappy about that? 19:40 < Teceler> hee 19:40 <@Adelene> an edge case question, though - y'know those bottle-full-of-colored-sand decorative dealies? If you send just the sand from one of those to someone holding an identical bottle, is the art preserved? 19:40 <@Sonata> so if receiver is a truck that's missing their engine and they're sent a compatible engine, the engine still appears in the back of the truck instead of under the hood. 19:41 < Teceler> pfft 19:41 < Teceler> (when I was thinking about the logistics of planar ally, Tyche was kind of like 'you realize I can sleeve into a truck, right?') 19:41 <@Sonata> I think no, it doesn't put things into subcontainers for you 19:41 <@Adelene> ok 19:41 <@Sonata> but you can send bottle-of-sand as a single item 19:42 <@Adelene> I mean - trucks, sure, people can sleeve into /habitats/. 19:42 < Teceler> hee 19:42 < Teceler> yeah, but Tyche doesn't have one of those handy 19:42 <@Adelene> yep. 19:42 <@Adelene> And five million zorkmids will keep them going for a while, anyway. ^^ 19:42 < Teceler> spaceship, maybe, but that would make getting it to Lurker kind of tricky 19:42 < Teceler> which kind of defeats the purpose 19:43 <@Adelene> mmhmm 19:43 < Teceler> also kind of tricky on the other end XD 19:43 <@Sonata> --unless the receiver's empty glass bottle is part of their body, rather than merely held in their inventory 19:43 <@Sonata> in which case it totally works 19:43 < Teceler> pffffft 19:43 <@Adelene> cool. 19:43 -!- rockeye has joined #backstage 19:43 <@Sonata> hi stonetoe 19:45 < FacelessCurious> Hi again 19:46 <@Sonata> faceless, it would be nice if you could have about half as much name 19:52 -!- FacelessCurious is now known as FacelessSmol 19:52 < FacelessSmol> sorry? 19:52 <@kappabeta> omg smol faceless <3 19:52 < Teceler> that's somewhat better, thanks 19:53 < rockeye> what is a smol 19:53 <@Sonata> is a cute type of small 19:56 <@kappabeta> http://swiked.tumblr.com/post/118595508285/eyefocusing-he-smol a potential origin of the term 20:06 -!- rockeye has quit 20:15 -!- omegabeta has joined #backstage 20:17 -!- Sonata has quit 20:22 -!- Evenstar has quit 20:22 -!- Evenstar has joined #backstage 20:37 < Evenstar> Tag, Sonata 20:37 < Evenstar> (who does not exist) 20:37 < Evenstar> (MotherStarlight is sort of a Sonata so I will try her) 20:37 < Evenstar> (Also Kappabeta you are tagged?) 20:38 <@kappabeta> i am doing many thing 20:38 < Evenstar> (DO ALL THE THINGS) 20:38 < Evenstar> (<3 it's okay) 20:40 -!- stonetoe has joined #backstage 20:42 -!- Sonata has joined #backstage 20:42 -!- mode/#backstage [+o Sonata] by ChanServ 20:44 < Evenstar> (Hi Sonata!) 20:44 < Evenstar> (You have a tag!) 20:51 < stonetoe> hey evenstar, any clue when your current two threads might end? Not to be pushy, but I am very eager to have my guys trade with the OTC. 20:53 < Evenstar> stonetoe: Feel free to just send me a PM on the forum or post in the thread and I will get to you whenever I have time <3 20:54 * Teceler pokes some more at her slowly-developing chron-minter character concept 20:56 < stonetoe> testing, did you get my pm? 20:58 < Teceler> I kind of want them to be from a world that has a not-widely-known magic system that you can stumble into via Interesting Things. To have previous contact with the OTC, because the forum breaks the early character arc I have sketched out. [pokes at some more] 20:58 < Evenstar> Stonetoe: Yes and yes. 20:58 < Evenstar> Also yes. 20:58 < Evenstar> Here is the TK etherpad. 20:58 < Evenstar> https://etherpad.net/p/takkarash 21:00 -!- Sonata has quit 21:03 < Evenstar> Stonetoe: Actually possibly no? 21:05 < stonetoe> you didn't get the pm? 21:05 < stonetoe> on alicornutopia 21:13 < FacelessSmol> good nigh folks o/ 21:14 < Teceler> sleep well 21:14 -!- FacelessSmol has quit 21:19 < Evenstar> Oh alicornutopia 21:19 < Evenstar> Yes, OTC does show up on their own 21:20 < Evenstar> Cat delivery is just a nice 'in' :P 21:30 -!- Sonata has joined #backstage 21:30 -!- mode/#backstage [+o Sonata] by ChanServ 21:30 * Sonata sighs at connection, uglyfixes 21:30 <@Sonata> my wireless keeps randomly failing 21:30 < Andygal> Ugh. 21:30 <@Sonata> and the only solution I've found to work is to reboot my laptop 21:31 <@Sonata> so i found an ethernet cable long enough to reach across the room 21:31 <@Sonata> and now i'm wired in. 21:31 < Andygal> time for a new wireless card or a new router? 21:31 <@Sonata> hopefully this will help. 21:46 -!- stonetoe has quit 22:10 -!- Sky has quit 22:52 -!- kappabeta has left #backstage 23:06 -!- Kelsupper has quit 23:14 -!- Evenstar has quit --- Day changed Tue Sep 08 2015 00:08 -!- MTC has joined #backstage 00:24 < Teceler> good night all 00:30 -!- Teceler is now known as Teceler|Asleep 01:05 -!- linkhyrule5 has quit 01:36 -!- Sonata has quit 02:11 -!- omegabeta has quit
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Post by Mother Starlight on Sept 9, 2015 18:03:45 GMT
06:28 -!- Kelsewhere has joined #backstage 07:01 -!- FacelessWork has joined #backstage 07:02 < FacelessWork> Salutations 07:02 -!- Andygal has quit 07:41 -!- Kelsewhere is now known as Kel 07:42 < Kel> Sonata, you aren't here right now but I think you will read this later? anyway, fantastic job with Ahrotahn's latest post 07:42 < Kel> "not sure how you feel about hints, but here's something that might help with your apocalypse (spoiler)" 07:42 < Kel> :) 07:56 < Kel> I am now off to school. bye! 07:56 -!- Kel is now known as Kelsewhere 09:20 -!- Sky has joined #backstage 10:03 -!- FacelessWork has quit 10:24 -!- Teceler|Asleep is now known as Teceler 10:43 -!- FacelessWork has joined #backstage 10:43 < FacelessWork> Greetings 10:43 < Teceler> hello 10:44 < FacelessWork> got a bookshop card 10:45 < FacelessWork> no idea where to use it 10:45 < FacelessWork> also, how are things? 10:51 < Teceler> I'm okay 10:51 < Teceler> how are you? 10:55 < FacelessWork> great 11:34 -!- Sonata has joined #backstage 11:34 -!- mode/#backstage [+o Sonata] by ChanServ 11:34 < FacelessWork> o/ 11:35 <@Sonata> hi 11:35 < Teceler> hello Sonata 12:29 -!- evenstar has joined #backstage 12:30 < Teceler> hello Evenstar 12:30 * Teceler is debating throwing Eaten at Lady Death's helpthread 12:33 <@Sonata> as in Mr Eaten of the don't seek its name? 12:33 < Teceler> yes 12:33 < Teceler> (a reckoning will not be postponed indefinitely) 12:34 < FacelessWork> Mr. Eaten is from Foundation or FL 12:34 < Teceler> FL 12:35 * Sonata imagines swapping the Masters of the Bazaar with the Little Misters 12:36 <@Sonata> Weaver Nine style 12:36 < FacelessWork> I have no idea what the Masters are, but I know that would be... interestinig 12:36 < FacelessWork> WEAVER NINE \o/ 12:36 < Teceler> oh /dear/ XD 12:46 < evenstar> (Hi, I exist again!) 12:46 < evenstar> (There was a little bit of panic re: university scheduling due to an unexpectedly full course) 12:46 < Teceler> (I hope that got resolved?) 12:46 < evenstar> (But everything has been sorted out now) 12:46 < evenstar> (Next time I will inquire more) 12:47 -!- evenstar is now known as Evenstar 12:47 * Evenstar was in such a rush her capital letter fell off 12:47 < Evenstar> :P 12:48 <@Sonata> hee 12:49 < Teceler> now you are the correct color :P 12:49 <@Sonata> tag, btw 13:05 < Evenstar> tag, sonata 13:05 < Evenstar> and now AFK for first day of classes, ta ta <3 13:06 <@Sonata> bye~ 13:12 -!- rockeye has joined #backstage 13:13 <@Sonata> hi 13:14 < Teceler> hello rockeye 13:14 < Teceler> Evenstar, question for you when you get back, what does the /usual/ OTC first-contact scenario look like? 13:14 < Teceler> I will be away for a while shortly, may be on some on phone 13:14 -!- Andygal has joined #backstage 13:16 -!- omegabeta has joined #backstage 13:16 < Andygal> Hi 13:19 -!- Teceler is now known as Teceler|Away 13:26 -!- Kelsewhere has quit 13:28 < FacelessWork> late hi andygal 13:29 < Andygal> Hi Faceless. 13:29 < FacelessWork> even later hi to omegabeta e rockeye 13:29 < Andygal> omegabeta lurks. 13:32 -!- tecephone has joined #backstage 13:33 < FacelessWork> omega lurks 13:33 < FacelessWork> hi tec 13:33 < tecephone> Hi 13:33 < Andygal> Hi Teceler 13:46 < tecephone> Is quiet 13:47 < Andygal> Yep. 13:48 * tecephone pokes at world-building for maybe new char 13:51 * FacelessWork looks if the world building reacts to the poking 13:51 < tecephone> What I know about the magic system is that is learned from extraordinarily close brushes with death, such that most people don't get it and survive. There might be other methods if you already have someone with it, not sure 13:52 < Andygal> and now I'm getting Mistborn vibes. 13:52 < tecephone> Its also not very very obvious once you have it, such that its possible to get it and not notice 13:52 < tecephone> Hm? 13:53 < Andygal> One of the Mistborn magic systems is activated, at least in the original trilogy by coming close to death. Or despair at somebody else's death in one case, but usually being beaten to within an inch of one's life. 13:54 < tecephone> Its fairly flexible, and isn't time-sensitive in a way that compounds badly with chron-minting 13:54 < tecephone> Ah. Have not read, so 13:55 < Andygal> the nobility in this setting has a charming habit of beating their children to try to activate magic abilities they may or may not have. Unfortunately there is no way to tell in advance. 13:55 < tecephone> What I don't have is the actual mechanism of the magic 13:56 < tecephone> ...meep 13:56 < tecephone> Although I sort of think that world may have ghosts and those are related to learning it somehow 13:57 < Andygal> it has been suggested on the forum that that would be a logical stituation for a Joker to grow up in. Not that the kinds of people who father Jokers need an actual excuse to beat them. 13:58 < tecephone> There isn't a specific set of people who can learn it, anyone with the right preconditions can. Although ability with it and or how useful it is to you may vary 13:58 <@Adelene> (the obvious thing, with the ghosts, is that those manifest slightly /before/ physical death on this world, and then if the body doesn't die they stay attached to it and that's what allows the magic.) 13:58 < tecephone> That is a thought! 13:59 < Andygal> Interesting! 13:59 <@Sonata> intriguing 13:59 <@Adelene> ^^ 14:00 < tecephone> Yeah, I think I will use that. If you don't mind which i assume you don't since you suggested it. Question of what it does remains though XD 14:00 <@Adelene> sure, go for it. ^^ 14:01 < Andygal> I'm kind of thinking something to do with sensing danger, given the theme? 14:02 < tecephone> That may be a thing it can do, but I feel like it is more flexible than just that 14:02 < tecephone> Hmm. 14:03 < tecephone> Possibly there are a set of abilities that can be developed 14:03 < rockeye> any sufficiently understood magic is indistinguishable from technology 14:04 < tecephone> ...other question is what ghosts in this world can do XD 14:04 < tecephone> I thought that was sufficiently analyzed magic 14:05 < tecephone> Afkish for a while now 14:05 < rockeye> eh, either way 14:05 < Andygal> It has to be both analyzable and scalable to count as technology. 14:22 -!- tecephone has quit 14:22 -!- tecephone has joined #backstage 14:33 -!- tecephone has quit 14:34 -!- tecephone has joined #backstage 14:52 -!- tecephone has quit 14:52 -!- tecephone has joined #backstage 14:57 -!- tecephone has quit 14:57 -!- tecephone has joined #backstage 14:57 <@Sonata> solar panels are technology even though we can't build another sun 14:57 <@Sonata> i see no reason why the same reasoning shouldn't apply to e.g. the elcenia wizardry reservoir 15:00 < Andygal> it is totally possible in theory to build another sun. 15:01 < Andygal> it's just massively impractical. 15:01 < tecephone> Solar panels are scalable though 15:01 < rockeye> Stars are massive piles of raw resources that are rather inconveniently on fire 15:02 < tecephone> Ha 15:02 < FacelessWork> dunno, it is very convenient to us that the sun is on fire 15:02 < Andygal> They are not technically on fire. They are undergoing nuclear fusion. 15:02 < tecephone> Details, details 15:07 -!- MTC has quit 15:07 < tecephone> Am joking, if that wasn't clear 15:08 < Andygal> Heh. 15:11 < tecephone> Afk again now 15:13 < Andygal> I want to punch Kyubey in the face right now. I want to punch it in the face so much. 15:21 -!- tecephone has quit 15:26 < rockeye> he has clear goals and no moral compunctions about lying or dead humans 15:29 <@Sonata> sandbox: kyubey meets voldeMORt 15:29 < rockeye> voldemort would kill him because he can create threats to voldemort 15:30 <@Sonata> but ~such power~ 15:40 -!- Kel has joined #backstage 15:44 < Kel> it turns out there are worse school websites than ALEKS 15:44 < Kel> such as off-brand ALEKS 15:44 <@Adelene> eek. :P 15:45 < Andygal> Hi Kel. 15:45 < Kel> hi! 15:45 < Kel> (it does not zoom correctly. text and images get /smaller/ if you zoom, and if you zoom out, the edges go past the edges of the box) 15:45 < Andygal> Ugh. 15:48 -!- tecephone has joined #backstage 15:48 < Kel> hi! 15:48 <@Sonata> hi 15:48 < Andygal> wb Tecphone 16:06 < rockeye> someone at the ALEKS development doesn't know their CSS and UIUX standards very well 16:07 < Kel> this isn't actually ALEKS it's off-brand ALEKS 16:07 < Kel> the main university in my area uses ALEKS, so the college I'm taking my stat class from is trying to immitate them without copying them 16:07 < Kel> so we are using "Connect" 16:08 < Andygal> somebody should be flogged with a wet noodle. 16:09 < Kel> pff 16:12 -!- FacelessWork has quit 16:12 < Andygal> I am not sure whether it should be the people who made the website, or the people at the college, but somebody should be flogged with a wet noodle. 16:15 < Kel> what absolutely should most happen is either for the college to change their minds and be willing to buy back the codes (unlikely) or for the website programmers to suddenly be inspired to fix the wrongs that they have created (also unlikely) 16:16 < Kel> they are making the teachers use them, but the teachers didn't plan for it so it's not a huge part of the grade at least 16:16 <@Adelene> (it is quite likely not actually the programmers' fault) 16:17 < Kel> (okay. I don't actually know a lot about programming. I am just very annoyed by trying to use this website.) 16:17 <@Adelene> *nod* 16:17 <@Adelene> there is only so much you can do with a limited number of hours to do it in. programmers gotta eat too. :P 16:18 < rockeye> I would suspect it was contracted to a third-rate codehouse somewhere outside the US 16:18 < rockeye> one or two prod cycles and shove it out the door 16:18 < Kel> fair enough. it just seems like if they'd had it not be in a bubble, there would be a lot less problems 16:18 < Kel> but I don't actually know 16:19 <@Adelene> Quite possible. Time to spend arguing with management over UI is also a limited resource, though. :P 16:19 < Kel> yeah 16:27 < tecephone> Can type now 16:28 < Kel> hi! 16:28 <@Adelene> o/ 16:28 < tecephone> Pretty sue there ate libraries for the numbers thing? Our is this a different thing? 16:28 < tecephone> Are 16:28 < tecephone> Or 16:29 < tecephone> Also sure 16:29 < tecephone> Phone why 16:29 < Kel> [Hug?] 16:29 < tecephone> Hug 16:30 < tecephone> Unneeded but thanks 16:45 -!- Teceler|Away is now known as Teceler 16:45 * Teceler flops 16:45 <@Adelene> *hug* 16:46 -!- tecephone has quit 16:46 -!- tecephone has joined #backstage 16:46 < Kel> wb 16:47 < Kel> [hug] 16:47 < tecephone> Regarding magic system from earlier, I think the primary resource for it is physical and mental energy 16:47 -!- tecephone has quit 16:47 * Teceler is doubly hugged 16:47 < Andygal> wb Teceler 16:48 < Teceler> (I had that sitting in my buffer) 16:57 < Kel> Teceler: tag!@ 16:57 < Kel> *tag! 16:57 < Teceler> yay tag! 16:58 < Andygal> Yay! 17:19 -!- omegabeta has quit 17:30 -!- Kel is now known as Kelsewhere 17:33 < Teceler> yhm 17:33 < Teceler> *hm 17:33 < Teceler> I still kinda want to throw Eaten at Lady Death's Help Wanted thread 17:33 < Teceler> but I'm not sure what to have the post be 17:33 < Teceler> I would go for a reckoning-related thing, but OTC 17:34 < Teceler> perhaps I will see if I can find some undirect-raging 17:49 -!- Sonata has quit 18:25 -!- FacelesOnix has joined #backstage 18:25 < FacelesOnix> Salutations 18:26 < Teceler> hello 18:33 < FacelesOnix> whats up? 18:42 -!- Sonata has joined #backstage 18:42 -!- mode/#backstage [+o Sonata] by ChanServ 18:43 < FacelesOnix> hi Sonata 18:43 <@Sonata> hi 19:01 -!- Kelsewhere is now known as Kel 19:03 -!- Kel is now known as Kelsupper 19:03 < rockeye> kel, how to change names? 19:03 < Teceler> rockeye: /nick newname 19:04 < Teceler> (I'm not Kel, but) 19:04 < rockeye> how about the action text I.E. Teceler is doubly hugged 19:04 < Teceler> type /me action 19:04 * rockeye understands 19:14 < FacelesOnix> man, there is an brazilian soap about the 10 commandments story 19:14 < FacelesOnix> and I had forgotten how... weird the judeo-christian can look like, you know? 19:20 <@Sonata> hah 19:21 < FacelesOnix> like, "Slavery? RELEASE THE FROGS!" 19:21 < FacelesOnix> wtf? 19:21 -!- Kelsupper is now known as Kel 19:23 < Teceler> wb Kel! 19:23 < Andygal> wb Kel 19:23 < Andygal> also I remain convinced that the book of Revelation was written while on drugs.' 19:23 < Teceler> heh 19:24 < Kel> ... potentially upsetting thing rot 13d 19:24 < Kel> be sbe gung znggre. fynirel? bssre gur yrnqre bs n pbhagel n punapr gb eryrnfr gur fynirf. Gura jura ur vf nobhg gb qb gung, uneqra uvf urneg gb fgbc uvz. gura qrfgebl nyy gur pebcf gung rirelbar vf hfvat gb fheivir naq gur jngre crbcyr arrq gb yvir naq zheqre gur svefgobea puvyqera bs nyzbfg nyy gur puvyqera va gur ragver pbhagel. 19:27 < Kel> also thank you 19:27 < Kel> re the welcomings back 19:27 < FacelesOnix> God: lol morality 19:27 < Teceler> yeah that is kind of 'what' 19:29 < FacelesOnix> It does put a lot of catholicism in perspective when you think about it... 19:30 < Kel> I only know that from Judaism so that is also a thing? 19:30 < rockeye> most early holy books that don't make sense now, made sense at the time 19:30 < FacelesOnix> kel, possible 19:30 < Teceler> I think possibly the religion topic should be taken to a sidechannel if it is going to continue in the direction of modern religion? 19:30 < FacelesOnix> huh, good point tec 19:30 < Teceler> rockeye: or things got lost over time 19:30 < FacelesOnix> I don't plan on continuing despite starting the conversation though 19:31 < Kel> I probably don't care enough about talking about it to move so 19:31 * Teceler nods. 19:31 < Andygal> Or things got badly translated. 19:31 < Kel> okay I guess we are dropping it? 19:31 < Teceler> just, like, that has explosive topic written all over it at least to me XD 19:31 < Kel> XD yeah 19:31 < FacelesOnix> My only closing statement on the topic is that it is hard to take a plague of obviously CGI frogs 19:31 < FacelesOnix> done 19:31 < Teceler> pfft 19:41 < Teceler> Kel: tag 19:42 < Kel> Eee tag! 19:42 < Kel> :D 19:54 < Kel> pff rokceye 19:54 < Kel> *rockeye 19:57 < Kel> (THE FORUM THE FORUM THE FORUM THE FORUM IS ALIVE!) 19:57 < Andygal> (with the sound of music) 19:57 < Kel> XD 19:57 < Teceler> (My brain: SUN THE SUN THE SUN THE SUN THE SUN THE) 19:58 < Kel> ... I am guessing FL? 19:58 < Teceler> Sunless Sea, technically, but yes 19:58 < Kel> which is not exactly the wrong genre for the enthusiasm of that but 19:58 < Kel> XD 19:58 < Teceler> XD 19:58 < Kel> Eeeee the forum! 20:00 <@Adelene> Hey Sonata. Is Motherstarlight okay? 20:00 <@Sonata> i don't know of a reason why she shouldn't be? 20:00 <@Adelene> She's missing the icons she usually has. 20:00 <@Adelene> In my people-in-the-room list. 20:01 <@Sonata> she looks normal to me 20:01 <@Sonata> voice not op 20:01 <@Adelene> ok 20:01 <@Adelene> *shrug* 20:14 < rockeye> what happen? 20:15 < Andygal> rockeye: ? 20:17 < rockeye> why is me posting on MWF funny? 20:17 < Andygal> Kel getting excited was funny. 20:17 < Kel> it is also funny though 20:17 < Kel> rockeye as rockeye the character? 20:18 < rockeye> rockeye is his username, I guess 20:18 < rockeye> should I change it? 20:18 < Kel> hm 20:19 < Teceler> it does seem like it might become confusing 20:19 < Kel> I don't know. it's a little weird/confusing to refer to which is you? 20:19 < Andygal> His actual name is Nick, yes? 20:19 <@Adelene> The question is partly whether that's what he'd choose as his username, too. 20:19 < Kel> (but people trying to sell things to the OTC like 'I will sell you X amount of godly effort and weird magical power and healing and conjurations and expertise and the dreams of small children' or whatever and rockeye character showing up and trying to sell very large quantities of foods) 20:19 < rockeye> Well, food is what he has. 20:19 < Teceler> and it is valid! 20:20 < Andygal> the OTC will buy it! 20:20 < Teceler> but, like, previous example was much smaller quantities of food XD 20:21 < rockeye> Pff, those quantities of foods are nothing compared to what I deal with IRL 20:22 < rockeye> we take in 80000 bushels corn per day 20:22 < Kel> ... that is lots 20:22 < Andygal> you work at a wholesaler or what? 20:22 < rockeye> wet milling plant 20:22 < rockeye> corn -> corn products, including HFCS 20:22 < Andygal> Ah. 20:23 < Andygal> the dreaded HFCS. 20:23 < rockeye> It's just sugar. Really. 20:29 < rockeye> (for scale, this holds about 1 ton of corn) http://i00.i.aliimg.com/img/pb/705/647/427/427647705_822.jpg 20:30 < Andygal> Um wow. 20:30 < Andygal> corn in what form? On the cob or loose? 20:30 < rockeye> I said approximately. And we don't buy whole cobs, just kernels 20:31 < Andygal> Ah. 20:31 < rockeye> It's a significant logistical problem to schedule the 18wheelers coming in and leaving since there are only two access roads and two loading docks. 20:31 < rockeye> We were working on getting a railroad line built to the plant, but decided we didn't have enough capital for it. 20:42 < Evenstar> rockeye: I used to be Eva as a username, but then I introduced Eva-the-character and now I am Evenstar. 20:43 < Evenstar> It's probably a good idea to change your OOC username to avoid the same sort of 'which rockeye?' confusion. 20:43 < Teceler> assuming rockeye makes sense for an ic character name 20:43 < Teceler> also, Evenstar! 20:45 < Teceler> <Teceler> Evenstar, question for you when you get back, what does the /usual/ OTC first-contact scenario look like? 20:47 < Evenstar> tag, Sonata 20:47 < Evenstar> Teceler: Usually OTC has a specific product in mind to sell, resource in mind to exploit, or talent in mind to hire. Often all three. 20:48 < Teceler> hmmm 20:48 < Evenstar> They send a door to the most relevant party and make the introductions. 20:49 < Andygal> how does OTC define relevance? Politial power, or economic power? 20:50 < rockeye> Sounds like a judgment call 20:50 < Kel> usefulness? having the desired trait/skill? 20:50 < Teceler> rockeye: ? 20:50 < rockeye> Like the kind of thing there isn't much of a standard for, it'd decided anew each time? 20:51 < rockeye> also evenstar if you didn't notice, I replied to the OTC thread on MWF forum. Whenever you get to it. 20:51 < Andygal> they must have some kind of criteria. 20:51 < Evenstar> Yeah, I see it 20:51 < Evenstar> I will get to it 20:52 < Evenstar> Andygal: Relevance is 'who here is best positioned to help us with our interests' 20:52 < Evenstar> Which is often not who you might expect. 20:52 < Teceler> hm 20:53 < Andygal> now imagining them contacting a high-school aged Bell. 20:54 < Evenstar> Andygal: Ha! That is an interesting and amusing picture. 20:54 < Evenstar> ... Actually that is entirely justifiable if they have ever met one of her highly-performing alts 20:54 < Teceler> heee 20:54 * Teceler pokes at her character concept. 20:54 < Teceler> coalesce, you 20:54 < Andygal> though I am not sure what a Bell would think of the OTC. 20:55 < Evenstar> "We have reason to believe you'd make an exceedingly effective field agent, would you like to sign on with us?" 20:55 < Andygal> The OTC may be too amoral for a Bell's tastes. 20:55 < Evenstar> "Immortality is part of the standard employee health package." 20:55 < Kel> XD 20:56 < Andygal> on the other hand, Bells have demonstrated the ability to tolerate a certain amount of shadiness in their associates if the associates are useful. 20:56 < Andygal> admittedly the Bells are in charge in those instances... 20:56 < Evenstar> (See: Original Luminosity Bell) 20:57 < Andygal> You should discuss this with Alicorn. I would like to see what Alicorn says about it. 21:01 < Evenstar> I am now experiencing too many threads to offer one up to the ravenous glowfic demoness. 21:01 < Evenstar> :P 21:02 < Andygal> well you don't have to do a thread /today/. 21:02 < Teceler> augh etherpad 21:03 < Andygal> (I think "a Bell meets the OTC" might deserve a whole series of threads, actually) 21:18 < Teceler> bk 21:19 < Kel> wb 21:19 < Andygal> Hi! 21:35 -!- rockeye has quit 21:52 -!- rockeye has joined #backstage 22:04 -!- rockeye has quit 22:08 -!- Evenstar has quit 22:09 -!- FacelesOnix has quit 22:10 < Teceler> ... 22:10 < Teceler> did mibbit go down? 22:11 < Andygal> Or something? 22:14 <@Sonata> good question, I have no idea 22:14 < Kel> I can go check? 22:15 -!- Keltest has joined #backstage 22:15 < Keltest> huh 22:15 < Teceler> hm 22:15 < Teceler> it might have just briefly dropped out 22:15 -!- Keltest has quit 22:15 < Kel> (intentionally quit) 22:17 < Andygal> Might have just had a blip. 22:17 < Kel> but then I would expect people to be back 22:17 < Kel> oh unless it isn't showing up as gone 22:17 < Kel> and it feels like nobody else is talking to them 22:17 < Kel> :( 22:17 < Teceler> that is always sad 22:18 < Kel> yeah 22:19 < Andygal> :( 22:19 <@Sonata> does anyone have their IM contact info? 22:19 <@Sonata> to poke them 22:19 < Andygal> they might have been AFK, also. 22:21 <@Sonata> seems coincidence that all the mibbiters would be afk though 22:21 <@Sonata> ...unless they're secretly all the same person and their computer crashed 22:21 < Teceler> ...XD 22:21 < Andygal> XD 22:21 < Kel> *cough* Evenstar *cough* 22:21 < Teceler> well, Faceless /does/ claim to secretly live on someone's computer :P 22:21 < Kel> I think he doesn't anymore? 22:21 < Andygal> Evenstar is never going to live it down. 22:22 < Kel> I think he was last claiming to be a rock? 22:22 < Andygal> he was claiming to be an Onix :) 22:25 <@Sonata> onix=rockeye confirmed 22:29 < Andygal> how does an Onix use a computer? 22:29 < Kel> from the inside of the PC system? 22:31 <@Sonata> Extra-large keyboard? 22:50 -!- Andygal has quit 22:51 -!- Andygal has joined #backstage 22:51 < Andygal> !! 22:51 < Kel> !!! 22:51 < Kel> ?? 22:51 <@Sonata> ??? 22:51 < Teceler> ???? 22:51 <@Sonata> ... 22:51 < Kel> ??? 22:51 < Kel> !~ 22:52 <@Sonata> ? 22:52 < Kel> "!!" 22:52 <@Sonata> ^_^ 22:52 -!- rockeye has joined #backstage 22:53 < Kel> !!! 22:53 < Teceler> ... 22:53 < Teceler> (wb rockeye) 22:53 < Kel> (right. hi! welcome back!) 22:54 < Kel> ? 22:54 < Andygal> wb 22:54 < Kel> (should I stop doing the thing?) 22:56 * Adelene suggests to Kel that that is a characterization question. Adelene is kind of being silly. ^^ 22:56 < Teceler> pft 22:57 < Kel> hee 22:58 < Kel> ... I guess I will stop doing the thing since I have now officially spoken outside of the parenthetical invisibility cloak 22:58 <@Adelene> *chuckle* 22:58 < Teceler> pft 23:02 < Kel> rrg I need to go put on pjs and prepare to pretend to be asleep, brb 23:16 * rockeye is stuck in a recursive loop 23:16 < Teceler> oh dear 23:17 * rockeye is stuck in a recursive loop 23:17 < Kel> in what sense? 23:17 < Andygal> what? 23:17 < rockeye> refresh email -> refresh alicornutopia -> refresh twitter ->refresh MWF ->repeat 23:18 < Kel> oh 23:18 < Kel> [hugs iff wanted] 23:18 < rockeye> [is not a huggy person] 23:18 < Kel> ok 23:19 < rockeye> any of u guys want to thread with me? 23:21 * Sonata eyes the time 23:22 <@Sonata> i probably shouldn't start a thing tonight 23:22 <@Adelene> Pre-MWF Lurker meeting Nick could be an interesting sandbox sometime, maybe. But not tonight, yeah. 23:22 < rockeye> Lurker thread? 23:22 <@Sonata> someone with a daemon meeting someone with a muse could be interesting 23:22 < Kel> (I am stretched way too thin over a very small number of threads rn, and that's not likely to change anytime soon, sorry) 23:22 <@Adelene> Not the existing one, we'd definitely want a more modern version there. 23:26 -!- Teceler has quit 23:27 < Kel> (in the ever threading anything sense rather than the immediate future, I'm a lot more likely to be willing to be sandboxes because that way all the plots aren't depending on it. also, warning, if you were considering it, I am /slow/ tagging) 23:27 < Kel> anyway goodnight I am sleep 23:27 -!- Kel is now known as Kelsleep 23:29 < Andygal> goodnight Kel. 23:29 -!- Teceler has joined #backstage 23:29 < Teceler> ... 23:29 < Teceler> power flicker 23:29 < Teceler> what did I miss? 23:30 < Andygal> 21:27] <Kel> (in the ever threading anything sense rather than the immediate future, I'm a lot more likely to be willing to be sandboxes because that way all the plots aren't depending on it. also, warning, if you were considering it, I am /slow/ tagging) 23:30 < Andygal> [21:27] <Kel> anyway goodnight I am sleep 23:30 < Andygal> [21:27] * Kel is now known as Kelsleep 23:30 < Andygal> [21:29] <Andygal> goodnight Kel. 23:30 < Teceler> ... 23:30 < Teceler> good night kel 23:30 < Teceler> (probably too late now but) 23:30 <@Adelene> (It might be interesting to see how Nick deals with a heavily traumatized smallbold, actually. Particularly given the lengths we'd have to go to to get her to interact with him at all - I'm thinking, like, he's put out traps for animals and manages to get her, and they're well gone by the time he works out that she is in fact a person.) 23:30 < Teceler> ... 23:31 < Teceler> asdfkl;j 23:31 <@Adelene> *hugs Tec* 23:31 < Teceler> [hug] 23:31 < Teceler> (Tyche is /very/ aaaaaaa about that) 23:31 -!- Kelsleep has quit 23:31 <@Adelene> That is quite reasonable, yes. 23:32 < Andygal> that is um...extremely aaaaaaaa. 23:32 <@Adelene> Also I'm not sure how that goes? I can't imagine Nick being amused to have an unexpected person sharing his ship with him. 23:33 <@Adelene> Like, I don't think it'd go /badly/ for her exactly, but it wouldn't necessarily go well, either. 23:33 <@Sonata> it's very clearly not her fault and she shows no signs of being an Nick's-Ship Asshole Passenger 23:34 <@Adelene> rockeye, thoughts? 23:35 * Sonata just realized that rockeye_stonetoe abbreviates to rest 23:44 < rockeye> I think I need to read these people's threads 23:44 < rockeye> Anyone being unexpectedly on Nick's ship is getting treated with strong sucpicion, though 23:45 < rockeye> agh, spelling. 23:45 <@Adelene> *nod* 23:45 <@Adelene> Lurker's thing is that when she was like nine, she spent a summer living with a tigerperson tribe. The tigerpeople in question did not think she was a person. This was quite bad for her. 23:46 <@Adelene> She tends to refer to it as 'that time I almost died' - she's not talking about /physical/ damage, there. 23:47 <@Adelene> (Part of why they'd be well gone by the time Nick worked out what was going on is that she will make /no effort whatsoever/ to convince him she's a person, and quite possibly some effort to convince him she's /not/. There's reasons people are going aaaa.) 23:50 <@Sonata> He would presumably know she was on the ship, because she'd get there by being transferred from his traps to his cargo hold. He'd only realize later that the kobold in his cargo hold was a /person/. 23:50 <@Adelene> Yep. 23:51 < rockeye> Nick does not keep animals or set traps. 23:51 < Andygal> Lurker's history is very aaaaaa in general. 23:51 < Andygal> Lurker's /world/ is very aaaaa in general. 23:51 <@Adelene> rockeye: ok. Andygal: yeah. 23:51 <@Sonata> oh, his biological samples are all flora and no fauna? 23:52 < rockeye> fauna DNA, which can be assembled into fauna at the appropriate tech level 23:53 < rockeye> So I guess he could set traps, he'd kill or release whatever was inside immediately unless it was very interesting, though. 23:53 < Teceler> ... 23:53 < rockeye> *immediately after getting a sample 23:53 < Teceler> ... 23:53 < Teceler> aaa. 23:53 <@Adelene> indeed. 23:54 < rockeye> well, Nick and I have no compunctions about treating nonsentient animals this way. 23:54 < rockeye> And he wouldn't recognize her as sentient. 23:54 < rockeye> tragic mistake. 23:54 < Teceler> yeah 23:54 < Teceler> aaaaaaa 23:54 <@Adelene> I am kind of assuming that 'kill' is reserved for the critters it's not safe to release near himself. 23:54 < rockeye> Or things with lots of meat on them when he's low on food 23:54 < Teceler> why does he have this policy if -- aaaa. 23:54 <@Adelene> *nod* 23:54 < rockeye> that the scanner says are edible 23:55 < Teceler> if he doesn't have a reliable way to tell what things are people 23:55 <@Sonata> you'd think an interdimensional traveler would be better at determining personhood in unfamiliar species 23:55 < rockeye> he might notice unusual brain/body ratio 23:55 <@Adelene> Lurker is neither of those things - nine-year-old smallbold is the size of a human three-year-old. 23:55 < rockeye> he keeps to familiar paths, and persons usually make themselves obvious 23:55 < Teceler> like 23:55 < Teceler> seriously, why has this not lead to problems before 23:55 <@Adelene> (neither dangerous to release nor foodlike.) 23:55 < rockeye> mostly keeps to familiar paths 23:55 < Teceler> for people who are not him, even 23:56 < rockeye> it probably has. 23:56 <@Adelene> *most* sentients will try to communicate, though. 23:56 < Teceler> and he hasn't. like. come across that? 23:56 < rockeye> The world is not a perfect place, why should the multiverse (if a bell isn't running it)? 23:56 < rockeye> not that he is aware of. 23:56 < Teceler> Adelene: yeah, but communication barrier is very likely still a thing 23:56 <@Sonata> ah, the familiar-paths thing wasn't clear to me. probably the sandboxen have skewed my priors. 23:56 < rockeye> yes they have 23:57 < rockeye> he is usually Very Put Out in the situations that cause sandboxers 23:57 < rockeye> not that he shows it 23:57 <@Sonata> anyway I should sleep 23:57 < rockeye> but he leaves as soon as feasible, right? 23:57 < Teceler> sleep well sonata? 23:57 < Teceler> (aaaaa) 23:57 <@Sonata> ty 23:57 <@Sonata> goodnight 23:57 < Andygal> goodnight Sonata 23:57 -!- Sonata has quit 23:58 < Teceler> ...hm, if Lurker's antimagic interacted with some of his tech, that might qualify as interesting 23:58 < Teceler> (aaa) 23:58 < Teceler> er 23:58 <@Adelene> As a rule it doesn't, but some of that tech seems to only arguably be, there could be some magitech in there. 23:59 < Teceler> rockeye: Lurker has an 'I am an illusion' effect 23:59 < Teceler> Adelene: that's what I was wondering 23:59 <@Adelene> *nod* 23:59 <@Adelene> Or, he does have a magic /sensor/, right? She does show up as magical. --- Day changed Wed Sep 09 2015 00:00 < rockeye> antimagic would mess with some of his sensors. That is how he determined the existence of magic before 00:00 < rockeye> and a magic-containing nonsentient animal qualifies as interesting enough to care for 00:01 <@Adelene> It's only kind of antimagic. Her world's magic items refuse to interact with illusions, so being apparently illusionary works reliably against them, but doesn't necessarily work against anything else. 00:03 <@Adelene> But yeah, that could work. Assuming it sounds interesting and people are not aaaa enough about it to be traumatized by the existence of this story. 00:03 < rockeye> I'm too sleepy to be credibly considering sandbox ideas right now anyway 00:03 -!- rockeye has quit 00:04 < Teceler> ...good night? 00:04 < Andygal> I don't think I would be /traumatized/ by the existence of the story. 00:18 -!- MTC has joined #backstage 01:43 < Teceler> I am going to go sleep now 01:43 <@Adelene> Sleep well. ^^ 01:43 < Teceler> thanks :) 01:45 < Andygal> goondight! 01:46 < Teceler> brain. brain no. 01:47 < Teceler> if you must generate a rant at space Nick do it in the mornig pleace 01:47 < Teceler> *please 01:47 <@Adelene> *laughs* *hugs Tec* 01:48 < Teceler> [hug] 01:48 < Andygal> (hug) 01:48 < Teceler> (it is generally to the tune of 'you have no idea what you are doing, why') 01:48 < Teceler> [hug] 01:48 < Teceler> (which is probably not terribly accurate in fact, given the well-travelled routes thing? but) 01:49 * Adelene notes to include a scene where he actively tries to ask if Lurker is a person and she nopes about it. 01:49 < Teceler> [hug for Lurker] 01:49 < Teceler> it's not just about that 01:54 -!- Teceler is now known as Teceler|Asleep 01:54 <@Adelene> *hug* 01:54 * Teceler|Asleep hugs 02:10 -!- Andyga1 has joined #backstage 02:10 * Andyga1 punches the Internet in the face 02:11 -!- Andygal has quit 02:11 -!- Andyga1 is now known as Andygal
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