Hadassah
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Post by Hadassah on May 23, 2015 11:45:47 GMT
Hadassah, you’ve said that you are on probation before being legally recognized as sentient. Can you please describe this process a bit further, if it isn’t too personal? How long does this usually last? Do you have any provisional rights in the meantime? Are you legally owned by the United States government or the mad rabbi’s estate (that would be awful, still being associated with him like that), or not owned by anybody (obviously the ideal), or what? Again, feel free to ignore me if these questions are too personal. I would like to understand your situation better, but not make you uncomfortable. I'd be happy to. It's a relatively new process and each country handles it differently, but the United States implemented the system ten years go. The Motion for Acknowledgement of Sentience started out as a way for thinking computers to appeal for personal rights, spurred into existence when several thinking computers spontaneous gained souls and could worship freely. Slavery was outlawed by this point, so MAS came about as a way for sentient computers to appeal for the rights of a full human, whether or not they necessarily developed a soul. (This is all sort of tangential, I can get a better summary of this history for you if you want.) The system wasn't really built for divinely created artifacts though. There are very few divine magics that can create tangible or permanent intelligent life (even most of my brother golems were not truly clever). MAS wasn't really built to vet non-computers, so I am trying to gain rights through a modified version. I was previously in a bit of a limbo period, as my application got rejected for about three years, pending observation and study of the council involved. My application finally got accepted six months ago after I assisted in Florida. I have two years of probationary period. Following that, I must pass a bunch of tests, and go through a trial of interviews and psych evaluations. The council involved in my case then decides if I am "sentient enough" to be given full human rights (and I do have an appeal process should I fail the first time). I do have some provisional rights. I get four hours a day for personal time, but I don't sleep and I don't need what is considered "down-time" like most humans, so I consider it fair. I also get a Sabbath, because of tradition (and no one knows what would or wouldn't incite the wrath of "my god" as to my treatment). I am allowed an allowance for me to purchase personal goods, such as clothing, bedding and personal goods. I live in an apartment style barracks for free with another person when I am not working. I am currently at my apartment. Most of my replies come during my personal time, (which I chose to break into 2 hour shifts, once at the start of second shift, and once at the end of third shift). Legally, I am somewhere between being owned by the State and act as a ward of the State. If I do something dangerous and un-allowed, the State is responsible for my actions. But, I also act as an agent of the state in interuniversal incidences, so I have the right to defend myself, defend others, or even make arrests, when I am on duty in the field. (I think the rules are intentionally vague enough that they can slip by with some things and not worry about creating by-laws and regulations for an exception to most rules, namely myself). Generally, if someone were to hurt me, it is considered more damage or destruction of property, not assault. I don't know what would happen if I were stolen (kidnapped) but I imagine it would be taken seriously, as even stealing a divine artifact is not legal. Overall, I am somewhat protected by the law, but it is not perfect. (It is debatable if some of my interpersonal treatment would be considered "abusive" were I a full citizen, but I would rather not press the issue until I have full human rights. I am very capable of handling it myself for now) And don't worry about asking anything too personal. If it were something that I could not share, due to rules or regulations, I wouldn't. Otherwise, I have, what my one-time therapist called, an extremely low sense of personal privacy. I don't mind sharing things about myself because I enjoy being honest and forthright. (And you already know what amounts to my most "damning" creation, history, and actions.)
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Raezenoth
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World: Arabek
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Post by Raezenoth on May 23, 2015 13:08:33 GMT
Hadassah, I believe I am annoyed by the situation you are in. If you would like, you are free to flee to my domain, where you would be considered owned only by yourself, and it would be sacrilege to treat you as property.
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Post by lurkingkobold on May 23, 2015 13:37:31 GMT
Desert-God:
Am do of stay of tigerperson. Elf do of trap, maybe catch of animal, maybe catch of tigerperson; trap do of catch of tigerperson. Kobold take of trap, tigerperson do of free; tigerperson do of burn of trap.
Trap is of magic. Kobold do of take of trap; other person kinds no do of take of trap. Kobold soon do of go; trap future do of tigerperson, elf do of take of tigerperson, elf do of sell of tigerperson.
Desert God do of help of tigerperson?
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Raezenoth
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Post by Raezenoth on May 23, 2015 13:39:51 GMT
I am happy to accept your tigerperson(s) into my domain. I could not free them from a trap in a world I hold not influence over, however. I would need to expand to your world, or they would need to come to mine.
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Hadassah
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Post by Hadassah on May 23, 2015 14:45:11 GMT
Hadassah, I believe I am annoyed by the situation you are in. If you would like, you are free to flee to my domain, where you would be considered owned only by yourself, and it would be sacrilege to treat you as property. I need to start with a disclaimer. I am not and will not be seeking asylum from my current world. I wouldn't violate the terms of my probation by seeking to leave the protection of the United States of America or of Pantheon itself by seeking sanctum in the domain and domicile of a foreign deity. I say this not because of the Mantle of Truth, but because that is my personal intent. For any and all that are directly or indirectly monitoring my posts and actions, I so swear by my protective essence that this is true. (That said...) I really appreciate the offer. It is kind and generous and more than I would ever come to expect from a deity, local or foreign. Despite my current issues, and the very recent trouble we have seen (the weapons smuggling ring has put a lot of stress on everyone in our office, not just my handlers), I really do enjoy my work. I get to do what I was made for, protecting people, and I get to protect people I actually choose to protect, which is even better. I provide a valuable service to my office by being able to function as an efficient handler of paperwork and quality management, which, while it does not necessarily make me the most loved person in the office, it does make my office look very good for audits, which I consider a personal achievement. I am good at what I do. I like what I do. And when (if) I earn the right to full citizenship, I will likely keep doing it. It has just been a very long week (in the sense of many events stacking up all at once in a short period). I do have a few friends here on Pantheon even, but I don't like to talk about individuals other than myself from my world (for safety in case of homing or scrying purposes and) because I don't want to violate their privacy on an interuniversal scale. Thank you so much. I really do appreciate your preferred kindness but I must decline of my own bearing and free will.
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Raezenoth
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Post by Raezenoth on May 23, 2015 14:53:43 GMT
Very well. That is your choice, and I respect it. Winds be with you, she of earth and fidelity. My domain will always be open to you.
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Post by gabriael on Jun 13, 2015 17:46:10 GMT
Toppled has a fuckton of cultures, lot's of them really cool. I'm fond of the Illuminate recently... buuut relevant to you might be the larger meta culture of Angels.
Basically there's a central city of Angels called Heaven, in which every Angel has a house and every caste has a work district separate from the housing. Michaeli spend most time there and have the closest thing to a culture, because they collect artisans and the like along with useful intelligent people. It's fun and sometimes angels of all castes spend decades immersing themselves in it. Raphaeli make doubly sure nobody in toppled stays dead, the rest of the larger multiverse really needs some more of those guys. With their rather straightforward work and low entry requirements make up the largest part of the population there, commuting to and fro in their rather inflexible work schedule, spending most of their free time there. Tyraeli are generally no-shows, most of them being slight workaholics. Their offices, consulting and training facilities there are the smallest. Theeere's a lot of therapy going on for them, they are the only kind of Angel required to check in after every assignment. Weeell the Raphaeli should too, but the worst that can happen to them is another Raphaeli coming and complaining that they wasted their time. Tyraeli are fetched.
The rest of the Angels operate independently. Sometimes they have mortal support structures, offices and firms. It's not really that they crown themselves rulers of stuff, that's actually pretty rare. It's mostly that they operate FTL shuttle services in Galaxies where physics don't allow FTL and hire people with the profits. Multiplanetary nations or alliances can form that way. When something occurs they can't handle by themselves they write to the offices in heaven. Michaeli handle most cultural outreach and uplifting where's there no reason not to, all kinds of angels help in diversifying projects, like the one where we try to make cool magical worlds or magic systems. It's where Angel rule is the most common, because of balancing reasons, but when a project has been finished they are generally left to rule themselves.
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Bronzemurder
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Post by Bronzemurder on Jun 13, 2015 18:27:46 GMT
Society in the sixth world is divided up based on your economic and job status mainly. Corprate culture is usually all about loyalty to the corporation and one upping the competition and your co-workers, for example a wage slave will voluntarily work overtime to show loyalty to his company. Street culture is all about what gang are you in or what metatype you are, for example a elf is gonna get the shit beaten out him if he goes into a orc neighborhood while a orc is gonna get tossed out of a Japanese or Yakuza owned club (Asians are very racist to orcs and trolls here). Then there's us, the shadowrunners, and our culture is all about who you know and how big your rep is, for example the hacker who broke into the Corprate Court is going to more respected than some gutter punk with a gun.
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#1!
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Post by #1! on Jul 28, 2015 4:03:50 GMT
What do you all do for fun? There has to be some fun somewhere around here, right?
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Post by Aspen Liamyd on Jul 28, 2015 12:29:27 GMT
Fun here
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Post by Aspen Liamyd on Jul 28, 2015 12:29:44 GMT
I talk to people on the forum. Before that I did things like counting all the different ways large groups of things I imagined could be arranged in ways that made sense, and comparing that to a calculation of the total number of ways they could be arranged.
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Post by Kit on Jul 29, 2015 18:53:31 GMT
Yah, there are lots of fun things. I don't like counting things or math very much, but the forum is good and exploring is even better. Drawing is fun too, and me and mama read books. And there are lots of places to explore now. I can't go to the ice beasts but I like the horses.
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Post by Hajene Anda on Aug 1, 2015 2:29:14 GMT
I don't have a great deal of time for leisure but when I do have some time I like to read or play cards or occasionally I knit. Also lately I spend time talking on this forum.
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Post by Dr. Realist on Aug 3, 2015 22:05:58 GMT
Cards are fun. I play the occasional game of poker, and Mao when I can find people who know the rules. Ideally I'd like a group to play dragon poker with, but good luck finding anyone who knows it outside the Deva world-cluster.
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Post by Ahrotahn on Aug 16, 2015 4:44:55 GMT
Could you teach people the rules?
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