Hadassah
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Post by Hadassah on May 8, 2015 9:53:09 GMT
My apologies if this thread is unwanted, but I wanted to vent somewhere.
Feel free to also vent any grievances you might also have here.
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Apparently, my creator saw fit to create me in his image, so to speak. Now, sentience can't be created or replicated easily on our world, and certainly not by a human, so I have my own will, my own personality, and my own form. As a creature made of clay, I don't have a sense of smell or taste.
But apparently, I am nearsighted, just like my animator.
The problem is: I don't have eyes. I can't find glasses that make a difference, because my eyesight doesn't rely on light, lenses or corneas. I can't get an arcane enchanter that has any sort of effect on my vision. Divine magic won't help because priests refuse to mess with other dieties' magic on general principal of "not wanting to get smote" and I would be worried they'd destabilize my construct anyway.
So all I can do is cast vision spells on myself anytime I want to see and read anything further than fifteen feet away. (Apparently my own arcane magic can improve my vision, but I am no enchanter so the effect is temporary, and the spell takes five minutes to cast each time.)
Anyway, I just wanted to complain. Eventually I will become better at spellcasting and this won't be a real problem, but I am not very good at arcane magic.
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Post by Botanical Engineer on May 8, 2015 12:38:07 GMT
I'm sorry. That sounds really irritating and inconvenient. He shouldn't have done that. I wish you luck with spellcasting.
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Post by Leaf on May 8, 2015 13:16:09 GMT
Well, that was thoughtless of him.
Happily, I don't have anything to vent about right now.
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Post by Andrew on May 8, 2015 14:11:43 GMT
That was fairly rude. Perhaps he didn’t realize how inconvenient it would be for you, if glasses or enchantment work for him.
I do have a question, though: priests won’t mess with other dieties’ magic, but could you find a priest of the deity whose magic you already have? Would that be likely to destabilize your construct?
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Hadassah
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Post by Hadassah on May 8, 2015 16:16:37 GMT
Botanical Engineer, Leaf, Andrew: Ah, no the nearsightedness was not intentional. My creator was quite insane and did not plan properly.
As a heretical Rabbi using forbidden and stolen arts, he intended to create an army of clay golems to fight against the rest of the world and return, in his mind, the rightful order of the Judaic god as the most prominent.
I was one of the first he created in order to assist in his mass production, so he used an impression of his soul to develop my independence.
Long story short, he was stopped. But I remain in limbo, technically without rights afforded machine intelligence. I intend to earn recognition as a sentient being but currently my rights are purely probationary.
Andrew: The singular god of Judaism does not recognize me, so I cannot beseech Him for assistance. Any Rabbi that would use His power on me would be likewise considered a heratic and would definitely hurt my chances at citizenship. I do not have a soul, so I cannot choose to follow another deity. So I am currently at a loss until I learn enchantment that might work on me.
My vision is really more of an annoyance for the most part, but it can be a minor hinderance when I am sent on active missions.
Not that I meant to burden anyone with my story, I just figured I would explain.
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Post by Fortunomancer on May 9, 2015 3:09:24 GMT
Hadassah, My condolences. My immediate instinct was to offer to assist you in getting recognized as a sentient being. Unfortunately, I do not have any political influence in your world.
I don't believe I have anything I would be justified in complaining about. My world has its problems, but nothing currently affects me on such a personal level. (At the moment, I'm annoyed that one of the governments I am associated with has not yet outlawed slavery.)
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Hadassah
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Post by Hadassah on May 9, 2015 11:21:23 GMT
Slavery is tough. We have done our best to get rid of some of it, but obviously, each set of nations really have to run themselves unless war is decided as the only option. The United States finally got rid of direct ownership of other sentients, but indentured servitude still exists, though indentured servants do have rights, such as the right to property, the right to proper treatment, and, of course, the right to practice their religion. There are several movements to garner them more rights, but I don't follow politics much.
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Hadassah
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Post by Hadassah on May 10, 2015 13:51:00 GMT
Andrew: I have moved my reply here as it seemed like the relevant topic.
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Post by Mother Starlight on May 14, 2015 15:28:35 GMT
Good idea, Hadassah. I've moved the rest of the souls discussion there too.
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Hadassah
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Post by Hadassah on May 15, 2015 9:50:36 GMT
Sorry I appear to be the most complainy one here, but I don't get many outlets on my end of the multiverse, so to speak.
Had a run in with an arms dealer last night. Turns out he was an acute kinetic demihuman. We stopped him but I got baked. I am going to be flaking off skin for days. I'll be fine, but I hate making a mess.
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Post by Raezenoth on May 15, 2015 15:24:56 GMT
The sea-witch goddess Varkalosix sent another set of missionaries into my domain to preach to my followers of the economical benefits of indentured servitude. This is the sixth time in the last decade. In mortal terms: ugh.
Smiting them was very soothing, though.
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Post by Andrew on May 15, 2015 16:11:51 GMT
Technically indentured servitude has economic benefits. And it is definitely not the worst form of forced labor; it sounds like Mysis and Pantheon still have outright slavery.
Those facts should be practically irrelevant when deciding whether or not to have indentured servitude.
Did the missionaries have much of a choice about going and preaching, and were they informed that this was a likely reaction from you? If they were forced to go by Varkalosix, then smiting them doesn’t seem to be very pro-freedom no matter what they were being forced to preach.
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Post by Raezenoth on May 15, 2015 16:16:16 GMT
Varkalosix would send missionaries to preach about the economic benefits of slavery, if she did not know better than to speak blasphemy in my holy lands.
Mysis and Pantheon should stop having slavery as soon as possible. It offends me.
The missionaries chose to come. They were aware of what kind of god I was before they entered my domain, and I offered them the chance to repent. They declined.
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Hadassah
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Post by Hadassah on May 15, 2015 16:20:40 GMT
To be fair, slavery is all but eradicated in the modern world countries of Pantheon, but machine sentience is not universally recognized yet. South America is still wild and dangerous with pocket nations, and no one tells how the Native Lands should run their country.
Are there absolutely no remaining vestiges of slavery, legal or illegal in your world? I mean, even kidnapping is a form of temporary slavery.
Also, I imagine a deity with freedom as a domain would deign not to appreciate intentured servitude. It would be like asking a fire if it wants water in it.
Not that I intend to speak for a deity, local or not. Please forgive any impertinence.
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Post by Andrew on May 15, 2015 16:25:56 GMT
Yes, there is still kidnapping and other forms of slavery in my world. It is not very widespread, but it exists. I would be surprised if even Raezenoth’s domain never had so much as a kidnapping; it might be a bad idea for the kidnapper, but people do things which are bad ideas. I had the impression that it was more universal in your world.
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