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Post by the keeper on May 14, 2015 18:52:00 GMT
I don't know how to find you. I have a lot of information but not a lot of interpretation. I have learned how to make air and rock. It took a long time. Maybe I can also learn how to find a person from their forum posts, but that will probably take even longer.
How would you write a program to sort things? What kind of thing is a computer?
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Post by Andrew on May 14, 2015 19:28:18 GMT
I explained computers here. In my world, they are the primary tool for automating things. What counts as a “thing” for you? You mentioned that stone, clay, mugs, mug pieces, and murals do. What about dust, planets, souls, memories, or magic? If you have access to the full history of things, why do you only have access to people who are dead instead of the full histories of all people? What information do you have about destroyed things? You know what they were made of and how they were shaped, but do you know when or where they were? What world they were from? How they got destroyed (other than what’s available in the rest of their history)?
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Post by the keeper on May 14, 2015 19:45:13 GMT
The information I have does not sort itself that way. I think in terms of clay and cups and pieces. But the only organization my information has is organization I give it, with difficulty. I do not see a cup and know which universe it is from; I see a universe, which contains, among many many other things, a cup.
The exception is minds. Minds are things. People have minds. Minds are different from everything else. It is easier in some ways to understand my body than to understand air and rock, because my body has a mind attached, so it is obviously separate from its surroundings. I don't have direct organized information about thoughts, but I do know what does or does not have a mind.
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Post by the keeper on May 14, 2015 19:46:42 GMT
I have read your explanation of computers now. It is not exactly what I was looking for.
What materials is a computer made of? What does it look like?
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Post by Undrained on May 14, 2015 21:14:05 GMT
I can't say much about the details of their materials beyond "a lot of metals, some plastics, some rubber, and maybe other things too", but as far as looks go: in my world (and, I assume, other worlds like mine), they typically (not always, but a large enough amount of the time to hopefully be useful to you) are approximately-rectangular boxes of metal, plastic, or some mix thereof. Inside the boxes are large numbers of parts covered in finely-detailed metallic structures which I can't describe in depth, connected (typically by metal wires wrapped in rubber, and almost always by some sort of metal) to a central approximately-flat board, which is additionally connected by another rubber-wrapped metal wire to a button on the outside of the box. There are also going to be pieces of plastic in the box, although I can't describe their locations with nearly as much confidence.
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Post by gabriael on May 14, 2015 21:59:15 GMT
See, told you! I bet the reason you can work so well with minds is that they have souls attached. I guess some benevolent omnipotent being capable of reaching into every world lurked on this forum, saw my posts and gave everything souls! Then they choose you, one of those souls, to organize everything and create a meaningful afterlife! Maybe shoved your soul into some mindless god somewhere. We should however try to figure out if that afterlife connects to all of our worlds. Everyone tell him about some dead person you know, it shouldn't matter if they don't have anything except rock and air as long as they are less than 20 people and can talk to each other and know someone they knew in life is in correspondence with their god.
As for me... no one here has really died... But I have just now created a cup and shrunk it by a factor of 3^^^3 it's probably the smallest cup in the Multiverse. So, now it's the smallest cup ever destroyed, can you find it? What's written on it? I will a few minutes after posting this make a new cup and destroy it too. Please tell me whatever you can about the cups sizes and if and how they differ.
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Post by the keeper on May 14, 2015 22:02:41 GMT
I am not a him.
I cannot find your cup.
I am looking for computers, but I cannot find one of those either.
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Post by gabriael on May 14, 2015 22:17:07 GMT
Oh... Sorry. Didn't pay attention. Mh... I will switch to color screen to make it more obvious.
You can't find the cup? Damn... Maybe you're not comprehensive... Or we didn't need to be included because we already had souls. What's the technology level on your world? What's the biggest piece of plastic you have? Or better yet: The biggest piece of transuranic alloy! Because that's guaranteed to be attached to a spaceship and those have computers on them!
Could you instantiate whole planets with their population intact? That would be the fastest way to start, things that were swallowed by a supernova and they could help you with everything else. Alternatively look for someone named Larry Michaeli, no wait, Larry Lawliet, cause he's the best guy for finding stuff. Oh, and who all had an Albert Einstein on their Earths, I wanna know if everyone has alternate Universe twins. Especially those from similar times, maybe you can cheat at the lottery?
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Post by the keeper on May 14, 2015 22:36:03 GMT
There are many cups. I do not know where yours is.
I cannot command information to sort itself. If I wanted to find the smallest cup ever destroyed, I would have to look at all of the matter that ever existed in all of the universes that I can see and decide which things were cups and which were not, and which of the cups was smallest.
I could look only among cups that were destroyed very recently, but that is still more cups than I want to look through.
What do you mean by the technology level on my world? In my domain there is air, and rock, and me. That is not very much technology. But perhaps you meant something else.
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Post by Dispersive Prism on May 14, 2015 22:43:11 GMT
It sounds like that is a huge pain, keeper! Especially since some things can be argued one thing or another!
What you need are classification minions to classify things so you don't have to classify everything, and so they don't either! Everyone classifies a little bit of the thing and eventually everything is classified and neat and everyone benefits.
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Post by gabriael on May 14, 2015 22:58:14 GMT
There are many cups. I do not know where yours is. I cannot command information to sort itself. If I wanted to find the smallest cup ever destroyed, I would have to look at all of the matter that ever existed in all of the universes that I can see and decide which things were cups and which were not, and which of the cups was smallest. I could look only among cups that were destroyed very recently, but that is still more cups than I want to look through. What do you mean by the technology level on my world? In my domain there is air, and rock, and me. That is not very much technology. But perhaps you meant something else. I thought you were a dead human. You lived somewhere. Mh. Instantiate any cup of porcelain. Use your Might to single out an Atom A in the middle of the cup. Ask the Might to find a pattern like Atom A without the mark "read":if it's smaller than that Atom A and then substitute Atom A with the found one. Else mark found one as read. If none are found give me the location of Atom A Else retry. There, now you should find the correct cup. Mh... I'm gonna have to send you the comprehensive compilation on Programming, don't I?
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Post by the keeper on May 14, 2015 23:04:27 GMT
I do not know what you mean by Might.
Asking many people to help me classify things sounds tedious. I am not sure whether it would be more or less tedious than doing it myself.
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Post by Dispersive Prism on May 14, 2015 23:07:21 GMT
Probably less, but there is a bit of frustration involved with organizing people, so I can understand if you say no!
Oh man, what about an assistant? A sassy austere butler assistant. To organize it all for you and go, "Here you are, ma'am, and your tea."
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Post by gabriael on May 14, 2015 23:44:04 GMT
Instantiate a Planet. I am sure you could find some of the smartest people on that planet to assist you. Might? Uh, Magic? God Juice? Thing that makes things change? I thought this Forum handled translation?
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Post by the keeper on May 15, 2015 0:19:51 GMT
I do not think that my abilities work the way you believe them to, gabriael.
You are slightly endearing, Prism.
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