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Post by Mother Starlight on Aug 27, 2015 21:00:15 GMT
It seems like the blessings trade might deserve its own thread at this point. I'd be interested to have my blessings drawn, if there's still room on the list. Good idea. The blessings now have their own thread.
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Post by Rukhura on Sept 4, 2015 5:44:50 GMT
Nah, the only bit of a person that matters is the set of self-altering patterns that make up their mind, the substrate can be anything from brains to laws to water clocks! That sounds weird but it makes a lot of sense! I've seen it repeated by several philosophical writers that a soul is like a song. Your heritage is the written notes, your brain is the instruments, your senses are the musicians, and the music is you. It makes sense that the 'music' is what matters, not... what plays it. This made no sense the first time I found it, but now it has begun to. Many of those here think differently from what I know, and some think almost the same. Some selkies think strange thoughts in a familiar way. Maybe others in my world and other worlds, who I haven't met, think familiar thoughts in strange ways.
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Post by Come Forth Winter on Nov 2, 2015 22:52:02 GMT
Skymagery A kind of hereditary magic, every Skymage has wings (The Flight Gift) and might or might not have additional gifts related to weather and sky, the gifts are as follow: Wind, Cold, Darkness, Heat, Lighting, Light, Rain (control over humidity) and Forecast (better senses and weather awareness). Gifts might come in greater form, with better abilities (The Greater Gift of Heat grants straight up fire control). Specifics Gifts are genetic and dominant, the quantity of Greater Gifts is genetic but the genes are recessive, and genetically identically people might end up with different Greater Gifts (Like me and Ignite the Light, we are identical twins), this adds up to make Skymagery’s a subject of great concern to their society.
Pocket dimensions (also knows and Hiddenlands) My world has pocket dimensions, the vast majority has a little more than a 10km radius, but a few are continent-sized, they can be accessed through portals that open through specific circumstances (time of the day, actions, holding objects, etc.). These places can have wildly varied magical properties.
Dreamshaping An ability that a few secretly have, basically we have a pocket dimension based on a dream and we have some power over it during our sleep, we can expand it, create portals and have a level of awareness of what happens in it. Each dimension is bound to a “narrative” that controls how the Dreamshaper can expand it. At minimum this allows dreamshaper to conjure somewhere around 3km³ of matter in a night. *My conjuration ability is limited to mostly frozen water and cold air. *My brother can conjure pretty much any non-magical object or creature in our world, except lightbulbs.
Immortality My pocket dimension contains large house-sized rocks, with a magical spring on top. They are the means to gain my kind of immortality. each can be claimed by drinking from the spring water. Once that is done the follow will happen: *The spring will metamorphose into a stone fountain with a statue of the drinker. They now can move the rock around telekinetically. *The drinker will become a skymage if they are not one already. *The drinker will become a kind of immortal connected to the rock/fountain and when their current body dies, a new one will be formed for them at the fountain, this takes a week. *The new body can be remade with some alterations according to the person's preferences. It is easy to achieve any form the body currently had and to unmake alterations, so one could remove or retain scars and plastic surgeries while reaching an prefered amount of body mass and hair length. *On Forks: If the person's mind is duplicated with enough accuracy both instances will be connected and if their bodies killed they can be emerged. If the connection between body and stone is interrupted the magic will default to forking. The rock will start a new body. The current body will puke a pebble that will grow into a new rock. The two instances can be re-emerged as above, the extra rock will crumble. *The rocks can reconstitute themselves, even when grounded to fine powder, this will only delay how long until the body will manage to regrow.
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Post by Ignite The Light on Nov 2, 2015 23:05:28 GMT
Well, at least you heard me and didn't include all the numbers you wanted to.
Also, how about the witch-queens?
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Post by Come Forth Winter on Nov 2, 2015 23:06:58 GMT
Well, at least you heard me and didn't include all the numbers you wanted to. Also, how about the witch-queens? I decided to talk about them later, when I can gather more about them.
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Post by steelshaper on Nov 12, 2015 19:22:49 GMT
We call ourselves shapers.
The bluestream is a layer of magic underlying our world, naturally a formless fog. Living things and sometimes forces of nature disturb it. Shapers shape the bluestream, and then use the shapes to do useful magic. Much of the difficulty and complexity in this system lies in the shaping, not the using. Things involving force and motion are easiest to shape and use, heat and light slightly less easy. In order of increasing complexity and difficulty, some other things it can do: Force-shells, protection from environmental hazards, crafting (sculpting, metallurgy, glassmaking and so on), [transmutation/chemistry], encouraging plants to grow, healing or body modification.
The magic cannot sustain permanent effects. For example, if you shield yourself the shield is limited by your concentration and your location in a shield-friendly section of bluestream. Some people are better than others at shaping the stream, at doing things that are not exactly aligned with this section of the stream, and sensing the stream.
Oh, the costs. I should mention those. Shaping the stream makes you physically weak and possibly for a short time, up to four hours at most if you overexert yourself. Sensing the stream costs you a corresponding physical sense for approximately twice as long as you spend sensing it- I.E. you can 'listen' to the stream for three seconds, and you will continue to be deaf for three more seconds after stopping. The exact amounts vary between people. Finally, using bluestream to do magic dampens your emotions, and causes pain and cell damage if you push too hard. Flying at a reasonable speed usually costs 5-20% of whatever you're feeling. Casting a little light costs almost nothing. Healing is intensely difficult and doctors usually feel almost nothing while working on a surgery.
One can become a shaper by visiting the stone circle. We don't understand how the circles work, but they are at least consistent. If you are not a shaper and you sit in a stone circle, there is a three in ten chance you will experience a lot of pain. The other seven tenths of the time, you go into sensory deprivation for a few days and then are a shaper.
Apologies if this explanation is unclear or poorly laid out. I'm not good at explaining, unlike blueshaping.
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Post by Come Forth Winter on Nov 12, 2015 20:42:44 GMT
We call ourselves shapers. The bluestream is a layer of magic underlying our world, naturally a formless fog. Living things and sometimes forces of nature disturb it. Shapers shape the bluestream, and then use the shapes to do useful magic. Much of the difficulty and complexity in this system lies in the shaping, not the using. Things involving force and motion are easiest to shape and use, heat and light slightly less easy. In order of increasing complexity and difficulty, some other things it can do: Force-shells, protection from environmental hazards, crafting (sculpting, metallurgy, glassmaking and so on), [transmutation/chemistry], encouraging plants to grow, healing or body modification. What kinds of healing or body modifications? The magic cannot sustain permanent effects. For example, if you shield yourself the shield is limited by your concentration and your location in a shield-friendly section of bluestream. Some people are better than others at shaping the stream, at doing things that are not exactly aligned with this section of the stream, and sensing the stream. Could you create a shield that extends itself to other locations? I assume you meant permanent magical effects? If you leave the healing-friendly section the healing isn't undone? Oh, the costs. I should mention those. Shaping the stream makes you physically weak and possibly for a short time, up to four hours at most if you overexert yourself. Sensing the stream costs you a corresponding physical sense for approximately twice as long as you spend sensing it- I.E. you can 'listen' to the stream for three seconds, and you will continue to be deaf for three more seconds after stopping. The exact amounts vary between people. Finally, using bluestream to do magic dampens your emotions, and causes pain and cell damage if you push too hard. Flying at a reasonable speed usually costs 5-20% of whatever you're feeling. Casting a little light costs almost nothing. Healing is intensely difficult and doctors usually feel almost nothing while working on a surgery. Physical weakness is caused by lack of stamina or something else? The drain is somehow proportional to the emotions/strength/senses? Could a deaf person hear the sream? One can become a shaper by visiting the stone circle. We don't understand how the circles work, but they are at least consistent. If you are not a shaper and you sit in a stone circle, there is a three in ten chance you will experience a lot of pain. The other seven tenths of the time, you go into sensory deprivation for a few days and then are a shaper. Apologies if this explanation is unclear or poorly laid out. I'm not good at explaining, unlike blueshaping. Any circular arragement of stone sworks?
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Post by steelshaper on Nov 13, 2015 20:10:24 GMT
Physical healing and modification only. Some people have their skin color changed, have wings and the muscles and bones needed to safely drive them, are made taller and shorter.
We can't do permanent MAGICAL effects, yes. The shield is under your direct control, and its size and strength depends on your skill, but it must be in an at least minimally bluestream-friendly area.
The physical weakness is more- inability to command your muscles. You don't get tired, exactly, it's just that moving is hard for a while. For all three costs the drain is proportional to the magnitude of what you did. A deaf person could not hear the stream.
No, a particular kind of stone in a particular arrangement with a very particular and intricate bluestream pattern over it.
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Post by Come Forth Winter on Nov 14, 2015 2:30:59 GMT
Physical healing and modification only. Some people have their skin color changed, have wings and the muscles and bones needed to safely drive them, are made taller and shorter. So it doesn't do mental healing or mental (effects?) Could it copy existing structures that you could duplicate a brain? You mentioned shaping the bluestream, could elaborate on that? What kind of shape do you need to heal? We can't do permanent MAGICAL effects, yes. The shield is under your direct control, and its size and strength depends on your skill, but it must be in an at least minimally bluestream-friendly area. The physical weakness is more- inability to command your muscles. You don't get tired, exactly, it's just that moving is hard for a while. For all three costs the drain is proportional to the magnitude of what you did. A deaf person could not hear the stream. Oh, well. I was thinking a way to exploit the extreme stamina of some people I know (assuming cooperation of the people involved). No, a particular kind of stone in a particular arrangement with a very particular and intricate bluestream pattern over it. So you need a blueshaper to create more blueshapers? How they started then?
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Post by steelshaper on Nov 15, 2015 5:21:50 GMT
No mental effects, brains are too complicated. We can cure most types of blindness and deafness, but you'd just kill your patient trying to modify brain patterns directly.
They're really complicated and don't exactly make sense without being able to actually see them. I have some textbooks I'd share if anyone became a Shaper.
Nobody knows how shaping started.
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Post by Come Forth Winter on Nov 15, 2015 15:49:23 GMT
No mental effects, brains are too complicated. We can cure most types of blindness and deafness, but you'd just kill your patient trying to modify brain patterns directly. They're really complicated and don't exactly make sense without being able to actually see them. I have some textbooks I'd share if anyone became a Shaper. Nobody knows how shaping started. This sounds extremely promising and I am actually interested (I would want to check if it works normally in my world first). We have some magical healing and non-magical medicine, but the former is rare and the later could be improved upon. Becoming a Shaper type of healer is complicated? How long it takes from acquiring Shaping until someone is able to heal another person (If this is too vague, pick any three types of injuries as examples)
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Post by steelshaper on Nov 16, 2015 4:20:40 GMT
I took a generalist degree. After nine years of study, I am acquainted with most aspects of blueshaping. I have spent a little more than two years total in healing-specific classes and am qualified to perform first aid, sedate people, disperse bruises, close abrasions and shallow cuts, soothe the symptoms of disease such as fever, running noses, or sore throat, and temporarily stabilize patients who have suffered severe trauma, heart failure, or stroke by forcibly oxygenating their blood. This last measure can keep someone alive for only a few hours. It damages the body in ways that are hard to avoid or reverse.
Full doctors study for eight to twelve years, generally speaking.
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Post by Come Forth Winter on Nov 16, 2015 4:59:57 GMT
I took a generalist degree. After nine years of study, I am acquainted with most aspects of blueshaping. I have spent a little more than two years total in healing-specific classes and am qualified to perform first aid, sedate people, disperse bruises, close abrasions and shallow cuts, soothe the symptoms of disease such as fever, running noses, or sore throat, and temporarily stabilize patients who have suffered severe trauma, heart failure, or stroke by forcibly oxygenating their blood. This last measure can keep someone alive for only a few hours. It damages the body in ways that are hard to avoid or reverse. Full doctors study for eight to twelve years, generally speaking. Sounds like something a bit complicated to import, but still a overall gain The sensory deprivation is not sleep, right?
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Post by steelshaper on Nov 16, 2015 5:04:53 GMT
The sensory deprivation is not sleep, right? Not entirely sure what you mean. One typically sleeps a few times during the sensory deprivation?
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Post by Come Forth Winter on Nov 16, 2015 20:33:48 GMT
The sensory deprivation is not sleep, right? Not entirely sure what you mean. One typically sleeps a few times during the sensory deprivation? That might have some effects with my own dream-related magic. I somehow assumed it was a continuously conscious state of sensory deprivation. I still could send a few people to acquire that magic. Do you think someone can learn purely out of books? It is possible for extradimensional shapers to learn in Telra's schools? Knowing about non-magical medicine would help someone to become a blueshaper healer?
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