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Post by Botanical Engineer on May 7, 2015 23:32:59 GMT
Okay, I don't feel any particularly strong desire to start a language thread right now, although I'd be interested in it if it existed. I thought I should probably ask while the language discussion hadn't been going on for very long, in case it needed to be moved.
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Post by Cardea on May 11, 2015 0:10:53 GMT
It's ambiguous. I thought one day I would be all the way safe and then I could leave our flowerhome and interact with others. I hoped one day I could be safe enough to be less restricted. But it doesn't fit together. I don't think that anymore. But I don't think there is any danger here in either direction.
The purpose of writing on noteleaf is to keep records and to leave notices for people who are absent. There are stories recorded on noteleaf and history. Our wings change colour when we think our thoughts strongly enough. I can think my thoughts in that way I just don't have the wings. If we think new thoughts then the colours change and the old words are gone. Writing on noteleaf can preserve the words. With magic it is quick enough but by hand it takes a long time.
The noteleaf are leaves of a bush, not the tree that the flowerhomes bloom on but a smaller plant. The leaves are small but they are shaped close enough to the shape of our wings when they are open that you can write the words and it looks like the original.
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Post by Lantern on May 16, 2015 20:48:16 GMT
My world, has plants, has animals, has fungi, has germs, and has viruses. Humans are animals, mammals.
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Post by Test Bed on May 16, 2015 22:28:25 GMT
I don't think I've ever heard of anyone spontaneously developing a malady. It'd be kind of easy to miss, though. Up here we've got the inherent health of fleshcrafts all around us constantly, and down on the continents they've got green aetherlight. So, we maybe have germs?
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Post by Lantern on May 16, 2015 22:40:17 GMT
Can tell by, make two strong lenses, arrange a distance apart with something to hold constant, adjust distances until focus, see very small things. Put collection of dirt inside clear container, put below lens, see if bacteria or viruses.
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Post by Test Bed on May 19, 2015 10:50:58 GMT
And it turns out we do have microbes and bacteria in my world, its just very rare that any of them cause anyone health problems.
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Post by Lantern on May 19, 2015 20:19:59 GMT
Secondhand happiness for knowledge, lack of health problems! My world, people need bacteria for health, digestion, autoimmune system. Bacteria mostly inside stomach, intestines. Your world, same purpose, people have _. _= bacteria, magic, other?
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Post by Lioncourt on May 20, 2015 15:30:07 GMT
And it turns out we do have microbes and bacteria in my world, its just very rare that any of them cause anyone health problems. ... Why would the existence of very tiny living things cause people health problems? It doesn't seem likely to me that something too small for me to see could cause serious damage, unless they're poisonous. Do very tiny poisonous living things exist?
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Post by MagicPhD on May 20, 2015 16:17:43 GMT
The primary reason is that most living beings are made of very small parts. A being is made of organs (heart, skin, etc), which are made of tissues (muscle fiber), which are made of cells.
A single cell is too small to be seen by the human eye, but works together with many others (a human is made of about 37 trillion of them). Microbes will infect a single cell, and make it create more microbes, which infect more cells, and so on.
So not only do you lots of things that shouldn't be there in your body, but they break your body apart. Some do this worse than others, of course. There is also some collateral damage from your body fighting back: when you have a fever, that's your body purposely raising your body temperature in an attempt to cook the invaders to death.
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Post by Lioncourt on May 20, 2015 16:54:51 GMT
The primary reason is that most living beings are made of very small parts. A being is made of organs (heart, skin, etc), which are made of tissues (muscle fiber), which are made of cells. A single cell is too small to be seen by the human eye, but works together with many others (a human is made of about 37 trillion of them). Microbes will infect a single cell, and make it create more microbes, which infect more cells, and so on. So not only do you lots of things that shouldn't be there in your body, but they break your body apart. Some do this worse than others, of course. There is also some collateral damage from your body fighting back: when you have a fever, that's your body purposely raising your body temperature in an attempt to cook the invaders to death. I was aware of the existence of organs and tissues, but 'cells' are new to me. We ought to have the optics to see them - telescopes exist - but I've never heard of someone examining themselves with one. That would probably result in just a big, blobby blur.
However, the process you're describing ('multiplying and breaking apart the body') sounds similar to sepsis of wounds, so it's possible that we simply haven't looked in the right way.
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Post by MagicPhD on May 20, 2015 17:11:35 GMT
Sepsis generally caused by infection, so you probably have them.
It's easier to see individual cells: try looking at a small sample of clear river water, or perhaps a sample of blood.
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Post by Lioncourt on May 20, 2015 18:06:17 GMT
Sepsis generally caused by infection, so you probably have them. It's easier to see individual cells: try looking at a small sample of clear river water, or perhaps a sample of blood. I performed the experiment (looked at water with a telescope), but saw no such small organisms, only clear water-color. Perhaps sepsis in my world is caused by something other than these 'microbes.'
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Post by MagicPhD on May 20, 2015 18:41:47 GMT
I'm sorry, I should have been more clear. A telescope can't see microbes: it magnifies, yes, but it magnifies large things that are far away. You need a similar, but not identical, device to magnify something that is small and nearby, which I call a microscope. I have attached a simple diagram of a telescope vs. a microscope.
It is possible that you do not have microbes in your universe. After all, I do not even know your species, though from you post on clothing, I would guess you are a human like myself.
[[Attachment: Telescope vs. Microscope Diagram ]]
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Post by Lioncourt on May 20, 2015 21:27:37 GMT
I'm sorry, I should have been more clear. A telescope can't see microbes: it magnifies, yes, but it magnifies large things that are far away. You need a similar, but not identical, device to magnify something that is small and nearby, which I call a microscope. I have attached a simple diagram of a telescope vs. a microscope. It is possible that you do not have microbes in your universe. After all, I do not even know your species, though from you post on clothing, I would guess you are a human like myself. [[Attachment: Telescope vs. Microscope Diagram ]] So far as I can tell, I fit the commonly-assumed human body-plan, though it would help confirm if someone could post an image or give a proper, detailed description. After commissioning the necessary adjustments involving things such as focal length, I now have a working microscope and am happy to report that my world does in fact have microbes. Now all I need to do is cultivate the proper Memnos, and I'll finally be able to deal with the mysterious recurring symptoms some of my patients have been dealing with.
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Post by Lantern on May 21, 2015 0:51:55 GMT
Good luck! Human body plans: outside-harm protection (skin, hair, nails...,), senses (touch, location, brain...,), muscles (arms, legs, movement...,), hormones (adrenaline, metabolism, growth), blood (heart, veins, arteries...,), bones (skull, spine, ribs...,). Warning: some images, naked people, looking-injured people (not really injured!).
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